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Rape Red ZoneEdit

According to a 2007 Campus Sexual Assault study, more than 50 percent of college sexual assaults occur in August, September, October, or November (“Campus Sexual Violence: Statistics RAINN”). This is what many refer to as the “Rape Red Zone.” In this Wikipedia article, I do not see any mention of the Rape Red Zone. Most students in today’s day turn to Wikipedia for information and this is a very key piece of information concerning campus sexual assault. Students should be aware of the time frame in which there is a higher chance of being sexually assaulted. Understanding the inherent risks of your new environment can dramatically reduce the potential for dangerous situations to arise. It is important to be educated, being educated can help prevent harm to yourself or those around you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsolemnlyswearthatIamuptonogood (talkcontribs) 21:19, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

"Rape Red Zone" is not a common term or concept. That seems like an advocacy group's name for it given the sources and language. ::Encyclopedia's are supposed to be neutral. However, what could be mentioned (if it's not already) is that new students are more likely to be assaulted which is probably why there's a higher incidence in the fall semester. Reasons for that include binge drinking and lack of risk awareness according to a few sources.Mattnad (talk) 14:30, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
It may not be a common term or concept but it is one recognized amongst college campuses, and many different professors. Just because it is not common does not mean it should not be introduced. Including a section on it would not make this article bias, it is factual. Knowing about the Rape Red Zone could assist students who are looking for tips on staying safe. Brining in that student's are more likely to be assaulted in the fall semester due to binge drinking and lack of risk awareness is not keeping it neutral. Binge drinking could possibly be a reason a student is attacked but that is not the sole reasoning. There are many factors and it would help the article if there were many examples and cases backing it.IsolemnlyswearthatIamuptonogood (talk) 20:28, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
There are other sources that validate the Red Zone, if I can give you a list and make the change, will that stop you from thinking this is just something advocacy groups discuss? Also, please tell me how adding this would not keep the article neutral? It's not pushing an agenda, it is simply helping students to be aware of the time frame in which it is more likely for a sexual assault to occur.IsolemnlyswearthatIamuptonogood (talk) 13:49, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
So what we would need is something like a newspaper, magazine, or other "reliable source" saying it that you can cite. Professors mentioning it in your personal experience is not "verifiable." Another important consideration is WP:Weight even if there's mention of it in a few reliable sources. How important and central to the topic is it, and accordingly how much do we include as a matter of editorial balance. From an editorial perspective, if you have data / commentary as to why the fall semester is riskier, that's far more relevant than what seems like a sensational name. It makes sense to me to bring in that perspective per my comments above and put it where it belongs in the sections addressing prevalence. If supported by verifiable, reliable sources, we could then say something like "The increased risk is sometimes called the "Red Zone" by advocates and academics".Mattnad (talk) 14:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
I just googled Rape Red Zone since it is a term that I have heard as well, and it yielded almost 2 million results, including a NYTimes article referring to "what is commonly known as the Red Zone, a period of vulnerability for sexual assaults, beginning when freshmen first walk onto campus until Thanksgiving break." So I would say it is a common term and adding it under risk factors would be appropriate. This is a very good point, IsolemnlyswearthatIamuptonogood Thank you for bringing it up and please do it.Beauxlieux (talk) 00:08, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
I once again have edited the page to include the Rape Red Zone, I cited a university website, a media news source and to show that it is something of common knowledge, I included a tweets. If this is still not sufficient, please work with me so we can include this.IsolemnlyswearthatIamuptonogood (talk) 20:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)IsolemnlyswearthatIamuptonogood

The NY Times is a good reliable source. A university web page is probably not and twitter definitely not. However you created a separate section rather than consider the recommendation to incorporate it into the appropriate section. Another editor reverted your edits probably because of WP:Weight and WP:RS issues. Even if this is "common knowledge", that's not good enough without appropriate sources. See my suggestion above regarding how to bring it into the article and you can use the NY Times article as a source.Mattnad (talk) 10:21, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

I am putting it back in New York Times is a credible source and it's now become a common term with that source. SonicThanatos (talk) 05:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
I did a little re-working of that section and added some of the recent evidence. I think we should avoid using "red zone" in the section header, because it might confuse readers who are unfamiliar with the term. One thing worth noting: there's some broad agreement that freshmen are at a higher risk, but the evidence for the timing (spring vs. fall semester) is mixed, and there's very little empirical research on the causes of the difference, although there is some reasonably well-informed speculation that seems worth citing. Nblund talk 01:27, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

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