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On 13 September 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from (G)I-dle to Shuhua. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Creating new section
editHello everyone. I am thinking of moving this paragraph:
On June 8, they made a debut in the rankings by topping the list for June. The rankings were determined through an analysis of the consumer participation, media coverage, interaction, and community indexes of various girl groups using big data collected from May 7 to June 8. In their first-ever appearance on the list, the group shot to first place with a brand reputation index of 10,038,719. High-ranking phrases in (G)I-DLE’s keyword analysis included “LATATA” (the group’s debut title track), “The Show,” and “debut,” while their highest-ranking related terms included “hot,” “pretty,” and “exciting.” The group’s positivity-negativity analysis revealed a score of 63.55 percent positive reactions.
from "History" section into a new one, for example a new section called "Impact", while having a summarised version of the paragraph in the former. I think it is better this way as it will look more organised and also shows the group's influence. What do you guys think? Heolkpop (talk) 07:13, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
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Regarding the awards section
editIn the award section Idle are listed as having won the "Korea First Brand Awards" in the "Female Rookie Idol of the Year" category. This is incorrect. They won the award in this category at the "Brand of the Year Awards" for 2018 (reference: https://www.soompi.com/article/1205129wpp/momoland-gi-dle-boyz-win-2018-brand-year-awards ).
The "Korea First Brand Awards" for 2019 in the category "New Female Artist" was won by LOONA not Idle (reference: https://www.soompi.com/article/1280441wpp/winners-2019-korea-first-brand-awards ). It is however unclear to me whether or not Idle was nominated for this award. I found no article or source on it. The "Korea First Brand Awards" for the year 2018 was given out 6 months before Idle debuted, so they couldn't have won the award at that occassion either.
Also Idle (if my counting isn't off and the according Wikipedia articles are correct) now holds the record for the most Rookie of the Year awards won by a Female Group. They hold 7 to their name, while the previous record holder Blackpink (would have to be verified if no one else has more) has 6. (I only counted Korean Awards that qualify as ROTY, so "Best of Next" clearly doesn't qualify).
I tried to implement those changes on my own, but am a bit in over my head with the whole styling of the tables and so on. So I decided to just open a topic and let experienced users do the job. 91.58.139.197 (talk) 22:14, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, thanks for your comment. Unfortunately according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources Soompi is considered unreliable for use as a source. Would you perhaps be able to find a source listed under "Considered reliable" for use instead of Soompi? I think Soompi actually list on the bottom of the page where they get their stories from, maybe this will help you as well. For any changes to the page that you need help with it would be helpful if you post them like: "Change X ---> Y"or "Change X to Y" so it will be easier for me or someone else to help. Thanks, Redalert2fan (talk) 23:00, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Could someone who speaks Korean check if [1] actually says that (G)I-dle won the Female Rookie Idol of the Year at the Korea First Brand Awards? If not this is source is not usable and the section should probably be removed. Redalert2fan (talk) 23:03, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- The award is correct, for the Brand of the Year awards, not for the Korea First Brand Awards. In the first paragraph, it states that they performed at the 2018 Brand of the Year awards, and in the final paragraph of the article it says that they performed, and in brackets after their name it says (new girl artist of the year), according to google translate. Alexanderlee (talk) 00:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- I have changed the name of the awards ceremony in the table, going purely by the source provided I believe it needs no further discussion. Alexanderlee (talk) 01:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- The award is correct, for the Brand of the Year awards, not for the Korea First Brand Awards. In the first paragraph, it states that they performed at the 2018 Brand of the Year awards, and in the final paragraph of the article it says that they performed, and in brackets after their name it says (new girl artist of the year), according to google translate. Alexanderlee (talk) 00:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Members solo page
editHi! I'm quite new to wikipedia but I've tried before to write biographies of two kpop idols, unfortunetly both were rejected, not because they were bad written but because the members didn't deserve their own page. Well, I'm here to ask you guys if you think Miyeon, Shuhua and Soojin deserve their own wikipedia page, it's ok if not I simply want to know because I don't want to spend hours doing something that later will be rejected.
Imeleanorob (talk) 19:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)imeleanorob
Hi, I am also relatively new to editing on Wikipedia, and this thread is technically dead, but I would support strongly support the idea of creating pages for Soojin and Shuhua. The pages in other languages have solo pages for them, and I believe that at this point, there is enough information to add for both Soojin and Shuhua to create solo pages for each of them. .aideulbouquet (talk) 17:40, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Imeleanorob and .aideulbouquet: the only reason for members to have their own individual articles is if they meet the notability requirements. Have either of them had any activity outside of their group and had significant coverage from reliable, third-party sources outside of their group? If they don't meet notability requirements, any attempt at articles will be rejected. Articles existing on other language Wikipedias is not an excuse to create one here, other language Wikis may have different requirements to ours. Alex (talk) 18:31, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Alexanderlee: I wasn't aware of that rule, thank you for clarifying! .aideulbouquet (talk) 18:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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Draft page
editThere's a draft page at Draft:Yeh Shuhua that's been declined a few times for notability concerns. If any experienced editors watching this page want to help out, I'm guessing that the presence of pages for the other members means that Yeh Shuhua is likely notable, too, and that the page just needs some work to demonstrate it. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 09:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
GSoc microtask
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T300454 Ifeniwura (talk) 04:46, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 04:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2022 (2)
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change mentions of Shuhua in the caption entry and the current members entry to reflect her personal page.
change the following:
caption = (G)I-dle in January 2020
From L–R: Miyeon, Soyeon, Yuqi, Shuhua, and Minnie
to:
caption = (G)I-dle in January 2020
From L–R: Miyeon, Soyeon, Yuqi, Shuhua, and Minnie
change the following: current_members =
to: current_members =
- Not done: Article is redirect to this page. Neither is her article ready for mainspace yet. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 13 September 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:00, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeh Shuhua → Shuhua
- Cho Mi-yeon → Miyeon
- Soojin (singer) → Soojin
- Jeon So-yeon → Soyeon
- Song Yuqi → Yuqi
– Proposing moving the above pages from their current full names to their mononym as per WP:COMMONNAME. The subjects of the above articles are most commonly known mononomously as their given name and have never used their full name in any professional capacity. Additionally, it is unnecessary to disambiguate these articles by using their family names because there are no other mononymous singers with Wikipedia articles that share those same given names.
For Cho Mi-yeon, Jeon So-yeon, and Soojin (singer), the articles with the new names currently exist but are simply redirects to the disambiguation page for people that use the hyphenated version of that name (ex. Soyeon redirects to So-yeon). However, none of the people on those disambiguation pages are specifically commonly known without the hyphen except for the people included in this move request. I believe the best course of action here would be to include a note at the top of the articles saying, for example: "This article is about the singer. For other people with this name, see So-yeon" RachelTensions (talk) 17:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alternatively, if there are many objections to overwriting current disambiguation redirects, could also move to Miyeon (singer), Soyeon (rapper), and leave Soojin (singer) as is. RachelTensions (talk) 18:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom, happy to overwrite disambig pages where there are no others going by the monomym. Orangesclub (talk) 03:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support move per rationale, as long as all five titles meet WP:COMMONNAME. -- 00101984hjw (talk) 17:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 03:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)