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Professor Joseph Henry listed at Requested moves

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Josh Gibson (Amrany) listed at Requested moves

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Alexander Robey Shepherd (Dunbar) listed at Requested moves

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Edwin B. Hay listed at Requested moves

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Alexander Pushkin (Bourganov) listed at Requested moves

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Major General James B. McPherson (statue) listed at Requested moves

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General Winfield Scott Hancock (Ellicott) listed at Requested moves

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General Casimir Pulaski (statue) listed at Requested moves

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Bernardo de Gálvez (statue) listed at Requested moves

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Lieutenant General George Washington (statue) listed at Requested moves

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Pushkin Statue (Riga) listed at Requested moves

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General José Gervasio Artigas listed at Requested moves

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Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk (Makovský) listed at Requested moves

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Don Quixote (Teno) listed at Requested moves

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Lincoln Monument of Wabash, Indiana listed at Requested moves

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James Cardinal Gibbons Memorial Statue listed at Requested moves

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Abraham Lincoln (Lincoln Memorial) listed at Requested moves

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Luther Monument (Washington, D.C.) listed at Requested moves

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Benito Juarez (Alciati) listed at Requested moves

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Brigadier General Thaddeus Kosciuszko listed at Requested moves

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Statue of Thaddeus Kościuszko (Washington, D.C.) listed at Requested moves

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Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (Anahtar) listed at Requested moves

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General Artemas Ward listed at Requested moves

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Doctor John Witherspoon listed at Requested moves

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Commodore John Barry (Boyle) listed at Requested moves

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Major General Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben listed at Requested moves

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Merger discussion for Outdoor sculpture in Washington, D.C.

An article which may be of interest to members of this project—Outdoor sculpture in Washington, D.C.—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Ham II (talk) 21:29, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Notification: nomination of Pierre Le Gros the Younger as featured article candidate

Since the talk page of the article states that Le Gros is of interest to this group, I just wanted to let you know that I nominated it as a featured article candidate. It would be interesting to see what members of this group think about it. Thanks Gerbis (talk) 13:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Good article nominee

I've nominated Statue of Harvey W. Scott for Good article status. Improvements before the article is picked up for review are welcome. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:52, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Ditto Frank E. Beach Memorial Fountain -- I've nominated for Good status and improvements are welcome. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Ditto Fountain for Company H ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Major General Marquis Gilbert de Lafayette listed at Requested moves

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Marquis de Lafayette (Bartholdi) listed at Requested moves

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Major General Comte Jean de Rochambeau listed at Requested moves

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Godley Statue listed at Requested moves

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Rolleston Statue listed at Requested moves

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Scott Statue listed at Requested moves

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Cook Statue, Christchurch listed at Requested moves

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Statue of Robert Baden-Powell listed at Requested moves

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Titles?

I've been submitting lots of article move requests lately, but I'm not sure quite sure what to do with these:

• Chief Justice John Marshall
• Crown Princess Märtha
• Edmund Burke (Thomas)

Any ideas? Mostly the multiple copies is what's throwing me off because then disambiguating by location is not necessarily an option. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:43, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Also, what about Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (Anahtar) and Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (Embassy of Turkey, Washington, D.C.)? These should be moved to "statue of..." titles as well, but both are located in Embassy Row. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 05:04, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: For the first two, I'd suggest Statue of John Marshall and Statue of Crown Princess Märtha. Judging from Commons the only statues of Carroll are casts of this one work by W. W. Story, and the same goes for Kirsten Kokkin's statue of Crown Princess Märtha – so no disambiguation is needed for either article.

The Burke is different because in addition to casts of James Havard Thomas's statue in Bristol and Washington, there's also one by John Henry Henry Foley in Trinity College, Dublin. Following the example of Bust of Winston Churchill (Epstein), of which there are multiple casts, I'd suggest Statue of Edmund Burke (Thomas).

For the Atatürks, I'd suggest Statue of Kemal Atatürk (Anahtar, Washington, D.C.) and Statue of Kemal Atatürk (Hall, Washington, D.C.). I think choosing a briefer version of the subject's name than is in the parent article's title would be a sensible application of WP:CONCISE. The artist's name followed by the place name in the disambiguation would follow the convention for other artworks such as David with the Head of Goliath (Caravaggio, Rome). Ham II (talk) 20:42, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

• Why not just leave them as they are, especially the Marshall statue which stands at the Supreme Court building. There is no reason to change the name of the historical honoring of Chief Justice John Marshall at the court itself, especially as a named statue. Randy Kryn (talk) 21:42, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

  The specific forms of the names (e.g. Brigadier General Thaddeus Kosciuszko vs. General Thaddeus Kosciuszko, which link to articles on different sculptures, when they should redirect to Thaddeus Kosciuszko) don't have the historical significance you read into them, and generally seem to be based on the (sadly) unsystematic naming in the Smithsonian's database or the National Register of Historic Places, not the imagined intentions of the artists. It's been repeatedly shown how usage in reliable sources can vary – in one of the cases here, between "Statue of John Marshall", "Chief Justice John Marshall", "John Marshall: Chief Justice of the United States", etc. What's the argument for the significance of Chief Justice John Marshall as a choice of words? The argument about the importance of the sculpture is irrelevant to it. Ham II (talk) 16:53, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I've submitted a request at Talk:Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (Anahtar). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:39, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

John Marshall

• Randy Kryn, If you look at the Save Outdoor Sculpture entries for the statues in all cities, doesn't seem "Chief Justice John Marshall" is the most appropriate or common title. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:30, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

• Mixed results. This one gives the same title as the page title, and another lists the name as well. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

  Randy Kryn, DC: Statue of John Marshall, Statue of Chief Justice Marshall as well as John Marshall: Chief Justice of the United States; Philadelphia + another source: Chief Justice John Marshall. Other sources:

  • https://books.google.com/books?id=8ho8AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=xSoukdVjs-4C&pg=PA744&lpg=PA744&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=lcwEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PP15&lpg=PP15&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
  • https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=7432&context=penn_law_review
  • https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/butowsky2/

  I dunno, I guess I'm just failing to see how "Chief Justice John Marshall" is the official or commonly used name. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:47, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

  @Ham II: So no need for disambiguation given File:WilliamandMaryLawSchoolStatue.JPG? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:00, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

  Ah, I'd missed that one – thanks for spotting it! The sculptural group at William & Mary doesn't have an article, so per WP:D2D I think there isn't a need to disambiguate. Ham II (talk) 08:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Speaking of Moves

Could someone explain to me the naming rationale of sculptures here at WP? Why are things described as Statue of George Washington or Bust of George Washington or Equestrian Statue of George Washington and not George Washington Statue, George Washington Bust, etcetera? What about sculptures that contain more than one human figure? Or non-figurative statue portraits? Is Jean Arp's Demeter a statue? Arp, Demeter Is this a statue of Demeter? Vignettie: Demeter Sicklemoon (talk) 07:53, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

There was long discussions last year, mostly at this link, & mostly dealing with George Washington-type situations. Non-portrait sculptures follow the usual rules at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Visual_arts#Article_titles, which were amended after the discussion. Hope that helps. Not all existing article titles follow the rules - the George Washington ones were in a terrible mess. Johnbod (talk) 10:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Statue of Williams Carter Wickham

Statue of Williams Carter Wickham has been nominated for deletion. Feel free to participate in discussion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The Monument to the Unknown Soldier listed at Requested moves

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Robert E. Lee Monument (Richmond, Virginia) listed at Requested moves

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New category: Dishonoured statues

I just discovered the newly created Category:Dishonoured statues. Confederate statues and those depicting slave owners come to mind, given ongoing news coverage. Feel free to help populate the category! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:57, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

It needs a better name though. This one is not at all clear and rather POV. Johnbod (talk) 12:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Johnbod, I don't have a solution but I agree. Quite subjective. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Category:Statues removed or destroyed for political reasons perhaps? One could put it up at CfD & see what other suggestions emerge. Johnbod (talk) 14:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Johnbod, Or simply Category:Removed monuments and memorials? We could aways have subcats for Confederate monuments and memorials, Monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests, etc. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

That's a tad bland & imprecise. Those subcats exist already, & I've been unitingt some - see the category now. Johnbod (talk) 14:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I disagree re being POV. While difficult to define precise ('political', ...), this is the essence of the categopry. Just "Destroyed" or "Removed" or "Vandalised" may be easier to classify without issue, but does not emcompass the encyclopedic point to note. IOW, just because it is difficult to define is not a reason to remove it. And this 'political' (or social, historical) reason is reflected in the word 'dishonoured'. Cicumscribe that word does not help, the title does not have to describe the category's definition as in a dictionary. -DePiep (talk) 14:58, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Could you clarify what "IOW" means?

See also: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_June_11 § Category:Dishonoured_statues

Solovetsky Stone (Saint Petersburg)

Should Solovetsky Stone (Saint Petersburg) be part of this project? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:05, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Found object? I suppose so; it "behaves" like sculpture. Does it matter? Johnbod (talk) 03:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Johnbod, Not a life or death matter, of course, but the article has been nominated for Good status and so if part of this project would be added to our project page showcase. Just curious if project members had a preference. I'm inclined to add the project tag to the talk page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough, thanks. Johnbod (talk) 04:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

The article has been promoted to GA status, and I've updated the project page accordingly. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:00, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Confederate Memorial (Jacksonville, Florida)

There's a tag to merge Confederate Memorial (Jacksonville, Florida) into the park article. I invite project members to weigh in on the ongoing discussion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:12, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

More moves...?

I want to thank everyone who have been participating in many move requests lately. These discussions have been needed for a long time, and I'm pleased to see a lot more consistency across Wikipedia articles about public art and sculpture.

Here are more possibly needing to be moved:

• Captain Nathan Hale (statue)
•  Done Commodore John Barry (Boyle) → Statue of John Barry (?)
•  Done Doctor John Witherspoon → Statue of John Witherspoon (?)
•  Done General Artemas Ward → Statue of Artemas Ward (?)
•  Done Major General Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben → Statue of Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben (?)
• Major General Comte Jean de Rochambeau → Statue of Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau (?)
  • Long title, but based on Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:56, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Statue of the Comte de Rochambeau, following the pattern for the Marquis de Lafayette, below. Ham II (talk) 09:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
• Major General Marquis Gilbert de Lafayette → Statue of Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette (?)
  • Again, long title, but based on Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:56, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Statue of the Marquis de Lafayette (Washington, D.C.) – we have Category:Marquis de Lafayette, Honors and memorials to the Marquis de Lafayette, List of places named for the Marquis de Lafayette and Visit of the Marquis de Lafayette to the United States, all for this person. The disambiguation is needed because his statue in New York also has an article. Ham II (talk) 09:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Thoughts? Concerns? Sometimes hard to know when I should be bold and just move pages, or create move discussions. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:56, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Thank you so much for your patience with all these moves – I've made suggestions above. Ham II (talk) 09:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Ham II, Thanks, I've finally submitted move requests for the latter two. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests

I invite project members to help improve Monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests and the articles about the individual sculptures. Thank you ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:19, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm struggling to keep up with all the monument updates. Anyone have a moment to determine the best title for Monument to Confederate war soldiers, Fort Worth? I'm sure the current title is not ideal. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

All of the coverage is local news, so doesn't look notable as a topic, but if it has no formal title, how about Tarrant County Courthouse Confederate soldier monument? News describes the courthouse as its location, not as much associated with Fort Worth. czar 08:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Sam Davis statues

Reminder to disambiguate/rename Statue of Sam Davis and Sam Davis Statue. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:53, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Link to MOS?

As a non-specialist I was struggling to find the rules for naming of public statues. I knew I'd read a discussion somewhere, some time ... and eventually found my way to this page and the discussion linked above, and then finally to MOS:ART and specifically MOS:VATITLE. Would it be possible to add a note somewhere to the project page to alert visiting non-specialists to the fact that there's a section of MOS devoted to visual arts and it includes sculpture? I'd been confused by seeing some statues dabbed by brackets, some by commas - all is now clear.

I created Statue of Edmund Burke, with hatnotes linking to and from Edmund Burke (Thomas): although casts of the same statue they each have so much local context that it would seem wrong to shoehorn them into one article. Possibly they should both be at disambiguated titles, with a dab page... PamD 09:32, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I then moved the Bristol one to Statue of Edmund Burke, Bristol and created a dab page. I leave it to sculpture experts to decide whether to rename the Washington article. PamD 10:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Dr. Samuel Mitchel Smith and Sons Memorial Fountain

Dr. Samuel Mitchel Smith and Sons Memorial Fountain has been recently created, expanded, and nominated for Good article status. Improvements/feedback welcome before the nom gets picked up. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Update: Promoted! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:09, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

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Della Robbia

Several articles link to the surname list della Robbia. Some refer to a specific sculptor but I don't have the subject knowledge to judge which. Others are about the topic of the Della Robbia school/style/tradition, on which we don't have an article. Improvements or suggestions would be welcome. Thanks, Certes (talk) 13:20, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

The Sculpture Barnstar

Hello, I made Template:The Sculpture Barnstar for this project. This is the best I could do. Jerm (talk) 04:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Jerm, Thank you! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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Bust of Hadrian

Bust of Hadrian has been proposed for deletion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Update: AfD. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:38, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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Statue of Frederick Douglass (Rochester, New York)

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Bust of Mahatma Gandhi, Shanghai

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GA project?

An editor nominated Statue of Frederick Douglass (Rochester, New York) for Good status but was unable to complete the review. I don't think it'd take too much work to get the entry promoted to Good article status. If any project members care to take a quick look at the feedback received, address, and re-nominate, by all means! If not, I'll put this in my stack of things to get to eventually. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Template:Public art in Chicago

I've created Template:Public art in Chicago and added to all pages included in the template. Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:04, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Statue of Ruth Bader Ginsburg

AfD: Statue of Ruth Bader Ginsburg ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:26, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Recent changes: Odyssey III

Can someone else review recent changes to Odyssey III? I've reverted once, assuming copyright violations, but would appreciate if someone else could take a look, too. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:38, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Statue of Heydar Aliyev, Mexico City

The Statue of Heydar Aliyev, Mexico City has an interesting history. Another editor has recently expanded and nominated the article for Good status. I invite project members to take a look and make any final improvements before the nom gets picked up. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:19, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

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Good article nominees

Just sharing some current Good article nominees if any project members are interested to review:

• Civil War Memorial (Savannah, Georgia) Promoted!
• Equestrian statue of Charles Devens Promoted!
• Nathanael Greene Monument Promoted!
• Statue of Heydar Aliyev, Mexico City Promoted!
• Statue of John Brown Gordon Promoted!

Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Article title discussion

Feedback wanted in discussion re: article title at Talk:Willie Nelson Statue. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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Trump and His Magic Wand

Trump and His Magic Wand is a mess. Do any project members care to help clean up? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

AfD: Bust of Vasil Levski

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bust of Vasil Levski

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Featured list candidate

List of sculptures of Ludwig van Beethoven ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Statue of Christopher Columbus (Chula Vista, California) at AfD

• Statue of Christopher Columbus (Chula Vista, California)

Feedback welcome, ---Another Believer _(Talk) 12:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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National Garden of American Heroes

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Wide tables

Are there things we can do to prevent stretching pages because of table widths? See List of public art in Springfield, Massachusetts as an example. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Sculptures of the National Statuary Hall Collection

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Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:04, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

A few of us are interested in overhauling United States Capitol art, National Statuary Hall Collection, and Sculptures of the National Statuary Hall Collection. Please join us if you're interested! All improvements and talk page suggestions/discussions welcome. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Update: Sculptures of the National Statuary Hall Collection has been nominated for Featured list status. Last call for feedback/improvements! :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:24, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Related: Please contribute to this discussion, specifically the Rosa Parks subsection, to help decide if the statue of Rosa Parks belong in the NSHC navigation template. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Springstone

I've recently created the article Springstone. Sources differ as to whether this is a form of chlorite or serpentinite mineral. I've gone with chlorite, since the sources giving this include print works, not just auction sites, and because other sources describe areas which have deposits of both springstone and serpentinite, suggesting the two are distinct. However, I'd greatly appreciate input from editors with expertise in this field who can help ensure to get this right. -- The Anome (talk) 13:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Update: I've now removed the reference to chlorite. The sources are just too ambiguous to draw any conclusion. -- The Anome (talk) 05:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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