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May 6

Anne Gascoigne

I apologise to you for not keeping notes and I will work harder at doing this. Pleaes check that ref number 1 on the above page should read in the quote "16th century knight" - NOT "medieval knight". please change the words if you think they are correct. I am unable to do this with my equiptment. Thanks again so much Srbernadette (talk) 01:26, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Please check that ref number 1 on the above page should read in the quote "16th century knight" - NOT "medieval knight" which is not technically correct as the mediaeval period had ended by late 1400s. Please change the words if you think they are correct. I am unable to do this with my equipment.

Also, should there be little dots under the word "nee"?

Thanks again so muchSrbernadette (talk) 02:39, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

 Done The dots under the née are there to indicate that there's a tool-tip there - if you hover the mouse pointer over the née. I've made the change to medieval to requested, but you could have done that yourself. Rwessel (talk) 03:34, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Could someone help me create 4 articles on people with down syndrome?

In the List_of_people_with_Down_syndrome page there is 3 people that are in red which means there articles are not created yet. Plus I think there should be article about Krystal Nausbaum who was the actress with down's in The_Memory_Keeper's_Daughter film. 50.68.120.49 (talk) 01:36, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I think you want WP:Articles for creation? DonIago (talk) 01:41, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

copyright material

The Cultural Institute platform is open to non-profit institutions, museums, galleries, and archives with copyright-free or copyright-cleared content that they would like to share. Does that mean that I can use some of it's artiles to add some lines or images to wikipedia's articles?? I'mFEMINIST 'T@LK!! 01:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Not necessarily. The fact that a platform hosts copyright-free material does not imply that all the material there is copyright-free. And what is "copyright-cleared"? Maproom (talk) 06:37, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

In fact the answer seems to be "no". This page says "You may not use content from our Platform unless you obtain permission from its owner or are otherwise permitted by law.". Maproom (talk) 06:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

World War II

you need to add the following in the article.

Russian historian Valentin Falin spoke thus : " When that policy often took diametrically opposed positions with respect to the second front and the joint operations , the soldiers did their duty honestly . It is because of the military cooperation of the West and East, the war ended in May 1945 - the first , and not dragged on for several years . "

As the British Professor Richard Overy , professor of modern history at King's College and the author of a number of works about World War II , after the war, Hitler's former Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop gave three main reasons for the defeat of Germany :.

was unexpectedly stubborn Soviet resistance ; large-scale supply of arms and equipment from the United States ; the success of the Western Allies in the struggle for supremacy in the air. However, the American political scientist and sociologist Zbigniew Brzezinski is not inclined to exaggerate America's role in World War I.:

"Paradoxically, the defeat of Nazi Germany raised the international status of America, although it did not play a decisive role in the military victory over Hitlerism. The merit of achieving this victory should be recognized for Stalin's Soviet Union, Hitler's odious rival. " It should be noted that 70-80% of losses in t he entire Second World War, the German armed forces suffered on the Soviet front (according to the Falin, this proportion reaches 93%). On the eastern front in the struggle against the Soviet Union during the war, German troops lost 507 divisions were completely destroyed 100 divisions of Germany's allies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hemenede (talk • contribs) 03:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Content discussion belong on the talk page of the article in question. Talk:World War II in this case. Rwessel (talk) 06:16, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Change displayed link color via CSS

Hello,
I'm trying to change my CSS so that external links that have been visited are displayed as the same color as external links that have not been visited. If I am not mistaken, the color of external links is #3366BB. Therefore, to acheive this, would the correct text to put into my CSS be:
.mw-body a:link.external { color: #3366BB; }
Or might it be this:
.mw-body a:link.external:visited { color: #3366BB; }
Thanks in advance. Ergo Sum 05:17, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Ergo Sum: Should be the second one, but it does not work for me. The one that works is .mw-body a.external:visited { color: #3366BB;} - NQ (talk) 11:13, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@NQ: Thank you. That worked. Ergo Sum 14:54, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Placement of Page needed

When used with {{Cite book}}, should {{Page needed}} be placed inside the ref tags, so it appears in the cite tooltip and the References section, or outside, so it appears in the article's body? Ex: [1]. ―Mandruss ☎ 07:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Mandruss: In the example on Template:Page needed it is outside the ref tags, which makes sense as other similar templates like {{Failed verification}} and {{Verify source}} are. While I can see an argument for putting it inside <ref>...</ref>, it is as far as I can tell intended as an inline template. —  crh ₂₃  (Talk) 07:46, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Second question: That article contains 6 references to that book, all missing page numbers. How would you code that, assuming only one occurrence of {{Cite book}} were used? Named references, each followed by {{Page needed}}? That wouldn't work when the page numbers are identified, unless one wanted to use the "rarely used" {{Rp}} template for the page numbers. {{Sfn}} templates, sans page numbers, each followed by {{Page needed}}? Is it considered proper to use {{Sfn}} in association with inline {{Cite book}}, or should it only be used with bibliographic entries such as at Princeton University#Further reading? ―Mandruss ☎ 07:51, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

For that matter, I now notice that the book in question is already listed in the above-linked Further reading section. Should I drop the {{Cite book}} and use only {{Sfn}}s for this situation? Is it considered proper to use {{Sfn}} in association with a Further reading section, or should such a section only be used for sources not otherwise used in the article? Should that book be listed there? What is the meaning of life? Does anybody else find Wikipedia editing tougher than their paid jobs? ―Mandruss ☎ 08:12, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Works cited in the article are not listed in Further reading or External links sections. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Wanted to Add more information for Liberty Videocon General Isurance

Hi There,

On behalf of my client's request, I wanted to add some more information on Liberty Videocon General Insurance Page. Please help me for that if I am violating any rule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neha.20srivastava (talk • contribs) 09:11, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Noting the OP has already been active on the article, with limited success. ―Mandruss ☎ 09:20, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello @Neha.20srivastava:, I have added the standard information for editors with a so-called "conflict of interest" (COI) to your talkpage. Please make sure to read through the linked guidelines and FAQ. Simplifying: as COI-editor you need to disclose your connection to the topic, and should not edit such articles yourself. But you can suggest changes or new information at the article's talkpage. A lot more detailed advice is available in the formal guideline though. GermanJoe (talk) 11:36, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of an hoax

Sorry for mentioning that issue, usually I do not edit the english WP and thus little experience on the regular deletion process. Kham football team, an article that exist in many languages, is a hoax - there was never a "State of Kham", also the flag is completely fictional. It has to be deleted, of course in all languages. Could an admin organise this?--Antemister (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Antemister I've proposed the deletion of Kham football team, as there's no evidence it actually exists/existed. As for other languages, we have no control over them, and an admin on English Wikipedia provably isn't an admin on other language Wikipedias. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:51, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I doubt that's provable. ―Mandruss ☎ 12:22, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I've been looking around for a while, and I can't find any evidence it exists. The references given appear to be about the Tibet football team, and the only hit on Google is [2], which cites Wikipedia. —  crh ₂₃  (Talk) 12:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

It appears that, after the article was proposed for deletion, it was then nominated for nominated for speedy deletion under G3 as a blatant hoax, and has now been deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Landry's

Landry's, Inc. is the parent company of numerous other companies that also have WP articles. Landry's, Inc and some of the others are being used as blatant PR/marketing tools with lots of junk sources, including each company's own website, to verify content. PR Newswire, which writes press releases disguised as news stories (for money), was also being used as a reliable source mulitple times. I started to clean up the "parent" article (Landry's, Inc.), but I just don't have the time to deal with the all the crap contained in all the articles. So if someone else wants to de-spam these articles, good luck. Dirroli (talk) 15:12, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I've removed a load of promotional crap from Landry's, Inc., but there's plenty left. Most of the articles about the restaurants it owns probably warrant deletion. Maproom (talk) 17:42, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Using geographic coordinates from Wikidata

When importing geographic coordinates from Wikidata, the output looks like this: 53°31'4"N, 113°29'46"W. I'd like to make that a clickable inline link to the GeoHack tool, like this: 53°31′4.44″N 113°29′46.90″W. But Template:Coord doesn't accept Wikidata's format as an input; the template needs to have either pipe-separated degrees|minutes|seconds, or decimal degrees. Is there any way to make this work? —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:08, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so, and I've worked quite a bit with coordinates. I'd suggest you ask the question at Template talk:Coord or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. ―Mandruss ☎ 17:21, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Arctic.gnome: Of course, anybody can create a template AFAIK, and you could create a new one to do that if you know how or care to learn how. The URL produced by your {{coord}} example is: https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Wikipedia%3AHelp_desk&params=53_31_4.44_N_113_29_46.90_W_. ―Mandruss ☎ 17:41, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Mandruss: I could feed Wikidata's output directly into a URL rather than going through Template:Coord, but GeoHack doesn't accept the degree/minute/second symbols in its URL. I need a way to replace the symbols with underscores. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 19:16, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Arctic.gnome: Yeah, that would require code of some kind to convert from one format to the other. Not only that, but to make the link look and behave exactly like that from {{coord}} would require wrapping some HTML around the URL. It's a big job and, if you don't already possess that skill set, probably not my best idea of the day. My first reply was better. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:30, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Page history blanked by turning into a redirect

The page Filipino people of Spanish ancestry was turned into a redirect to a new page, Spanish Filipino, by unexperienced User:Arius1988. This is an irregular way to move a page, and conceals most of its history. However I have no idea about how to fix it. I've written about the question in the aforementioned user talk page, but he just blanks it. What should I do? Thank you. --Jotamar (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I have undone the redirect. Filipino people of Spanish ancestry is now an article again. Maproom (talk) 17:52, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

It looks like Filipino people of Spanish ancestry shares a lot of content with Spanish Filipino. They probably could be merged. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:11, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Change displayed link color for interwiki links

Hello,
This is similar to a question I had asked earlier about external links. I am trying to change my CSS so that interwiki links that have been visited are displayed as the same color as those that have not been visited (color #3366BB). I have tried both
.mw-body a:link.interwiki:visited { color #3366BB;}
and
.mw-body a:interwiki:visited {color #3366BB;}
but neither seemed to have worked. Any advice?
Thanks in advance. Ergo Sum 19:47, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Ergo Sum: Try .mw-body a.extiw:visited { color: #3366BB; } - NQ (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@NQ: Thank you again NQ. Big help. Ergo Sum 22:08, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Complex template help

Template:Infobox university address I am trying to get the address function to work in the same fashion as Template:Infobox school. I have tried to merge between the two source codes but obviously it requires more technical knowledge to get this to work.

The background story is explained better at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 May 6#Template:Infobox university address where you can already see it is being nominated for deletion, so time is limited to get this functional and to make it a viable replacement for Template:Infobox university Trackinfo (talk) 19:52, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Trackinfo: The usual place to develop a new version of {{Infobox university}} is Template:Infobox university/sandbox. Then Template:Infobox university/testcases can be used to display the old and new output side by side. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:45, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

We can move the location. I still need assistance with the coding. Trackinfo (talk) 21:16, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I have made the move to Template:Infobox university/sandbox/address. Technical assistance still needed. Trackinfo (talk) 05:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

How to find articles with ending -ology

I want to have a set of all Wikipedia articles which end in ology. Is there some tool or gadget which I can use to get a list of all of such articles. Thank you.NikolaiHo 21:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

I recently wanted to do a search for all articles ending in Fraternity, I used https://quarry.wmflabs.org/ but I ended up instead of looking for '%Fraternity' which timed out, I did an or across all 26 choices of field like 'A%Fraternity' or field like 'B%Fraternity'. etc. See https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/9516 once you log in.Naraht (talk) 21:54, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

bangyal rajput (more defined)

bangyal rajputs are basically agnivanshi rajputs clan . bangyal rajput was a ruling lord ( sipa salar ) . bangyal was born as agnivanshi but at teenage he was taken as prisoner by M.bin Qasim , and he served him as soldier . later on due to great service of bangyal he was realesed by Bin Qasam ( as he was leaving also midlle east) . also Bin Qasam gifted him a great piece of land to be a lord . that land is some area of potohar (kallar syedan , matoor , gujarkhan ). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.255.6.68 (talk) 21:29, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

There is no article by that title and your post entirely lacks context and therefore cannot be acted upon. Wikipedia has more than five million articles and searching for what you are here about is not really in the volunteer job description. If you are here about some specific article, then name it, and then tell us something very specific about what you are seeking (or better yet, post to the article's talk page), like "this article does not describe _____, when it should; here my suggested addition and here's my reliable sources that backs up these edits; and the edit should be added to to X section, or "I want the following change to the text: it says X but should say Y..." etc.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:58, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

Ishmael Reed

Honors and Awards.

Tried to insert a new honor, with web page source cited and moved another one to a lower paragraph, which might have created another error. please advise how to fix. However these are all accurate award mentions--just an editing question — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skirtdancer (talk • contribs) 21:35, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Resolved

(by David Biddulph). Eagleash (talk) 20:07, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Template help

I want to create a specific template similar to these ones. It should serve as a notice on the talk page of Maize that reminds users of the naming dispute and redirects them to the page Talk:Maize/Corn (as the talk page is really just getting cluttered by it), just as was done with Myanmar and redirecting towards Talk:Burma/Myanmar. The page Talk:Georgia is a great example as well. How would I go about creating such a template myself? Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 21:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Prinsgezinde. You probably already saw that the text at the Maize talk page is generated by the template code {{BurmaMyanmarRMArchive}}.

1. Anytime you see something like that, the template page itself will be at the title you see between the curly braces, with "Template:" prefixed;
2. Thus, to access the template page iself, you would just go to Template:BurmaMyanmarRMArchive (or for the other one, to Template:GeorgiaRMArchive);
3. If you click edit at either template page and copy the code, you can then create a template at, say, Template:CornMaizeRMArchive or some other intuitive name (I find these ones, with the CamelCase and no spacing a bit passé; we have moved towards more sentence-style, accessible template names);
4. Paste the code from one of these templates and tailor for your purposes.

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

Thank you, Fuhghettaboutit, for your detailed and quick response, I expected it to involve much more than that. This will help a lot! Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 22:24, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Prinsgezinde: Great! Glad to help. If you have any trouble feel free to contact me directly at my talk page. I am a terrible, dilettante coder but I have enough experience from failing many times at trying over my head stuff that I can actually understand and do the "easy" stuff (and I know where all the great template coders live).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Reliable sources vs one event?

Dear editors: This draft: Draft:LaNiyah Bailey is about a child author who wrote a book and received a fair amount of press coverage. She later made a follow-up activity and colouring book. According to WorldCat, she is listed as a co-author; the first book is in 9 libraries (at least, since not all libraries send data to WorldCat), and the second is not listed. The article needs editing for neutral point of view, and I am willing to do this, but I don't want to keep it from being deleted under db-g13 unless it's an acceptable topic. The draft says she has won an award. I haven't found reviews of the second book. I remember having a lot of trouble getting the article about Riley Senft accepted because of the WP:ONEEVENT. Is this another instance of the same thing? —Anne Delong (talk) 23:18, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

CSD G13 is for abandoned drafts. If you're interested in editing it, it shouldn't be deleted under G13. If you think it isn't notable, then you should nominate it for deletion using AFD, but you shouldn't wait until it can be deleted under G13 in order to get it deleted for a different reason. The sources seem to have significant coverage about the author, not just the book, so I would think she's notable. KSFT^C 00:28, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to reply, KSFT. I wasn't really interested in editing it, but since there are quite a few references I rewrote some sections for NPOV and moved it to mainspace. If it goes to AfD, so be it.—Anne Delong (talk) 00:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)