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Shruti Haasan filmography edit

Shruti Haasan filmography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Pavanjandhyala 10:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This was never planned. It started off as a small pet project kind-of work intended as a constructive birthday present to User:Ssven2 and remains to be one. But, after finding it potential enough, i am nominating the filmography of this actress for FL status. All constructive comments welcome. Pavanjandhyala 10:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kailash
  • She appears only in Telugu, Hindi and Tamil films, so I think "predominantly" is not required. I also suggest you sort the languages in the first sentence in this same order, based on how many films she has acted in each language.
Removed the word.
  • Although Tamilians don't typically use surnames, I think Shruti uses "Haasan" as such, since it is not a patronymic (just like Rangan is not Baradwaj's surname, but he still uses it as such). But please consult someone before making the change.
Forgot this; i referred to her as Haasan in Srimanthudu too!
  • In Hey Ram, she plays Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel's daughter. But I am not sure if the character is Maniben Patel, or if she was named at all since I haven't seen the film. Do please ask someone on what value to fill in the "Role" column.
Not really sure that she has had a notable appearance in the film. The source mentions her as Vallabhbhai Patel's daughter, though.
  • Perhaps you could wikilink South Indian cinema since non-Indians may not be aware that Tamil and Telugu cinema are a part of it.
Done.
  • This ref is missing the publisher/work field.
Good catch. Fixed.
Couldn't do that due to poor internet facilities. Updated it properly now.
  • Please see that the refs in the table show her characters' names.
Crosschecked them. Except for Hey Ram, at the moment, all set.
  • Sabaash Naidu is titled Shabhash Kundu in Hindi, so you may have to split the cell (see Oopiri/Thozha in Tamannaah filmography). Also, do please see if the trilingual is still set for release in 2017 since I've been hearing rumours about it's delay.
Thanks for the info; i was unaware of that. Well, the sources say 2017 and we can wait.
  • You could put {{TBA}} in the cells for those roles that... I guess I don't have to say this.
Got it. Done.

Overall, I'd say this is damn impressive of you to expand the article in just a few days and already make it FLC worthy. Once my comments are addressed, this FLC will have my support. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:32, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kailash29792: All addressed. Look forward for your response and further additional comments, if any. Pavanjandhyala 13:14, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for addressing my comments. Before I can give this my support, I must ask are you okay with the fact that Ssven has centered all her character names? Because I'm not. But if that is not prohibited in FLs, I'm not gonna oppose it. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:28, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Kailash29792: Removed them. Pavanjandhyala 03:27, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The reason for centering all the names was that in her future films, where her roles are not yet known hence "TBA"", they were all centered, which seemed a bit off, but that's just me. So I figured why not center the roles for her previous films? Hence I centered them. I apologise if I had done anything that I shouldn't have.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No apology is required. :) But do remember that the TBA is a template-text and we cannot base the remaining contents on its structure because the TBA shall not last long. Pavanjandhyala 10:28, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Impressive work Pavan. Hope this passes FL within this month. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:03, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I too hope so. Pavanjandhyala 15:05, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Aoba47
  • I do not believe that the character names in the table should be centered. It looks odd as it is the part of the table that is centered, and I have not seen a table for a FL for an actor's filmography set up in this way before. It should be an easy fix.
Removed them.
  • I would suggest altering the second sentence of the lead's first paragraph to make it flow better with the rest of the paragraph. I have never heard of this person or seen her films before so right now, the sentence appears like a random fact thrown into the beginning of the paragraph without any context of its importance or relevance. It seems from the chart that this is her first film credit, but I would make the context clearer for an uninformed reader like myself.
I hope that the new additions would serve the purpose.
  • In the sentence about the film Luck, please specify who she played as a part of the dual role. The sentence appears incomplete by just saying she played a dual role and ending the sentence there.
As per the source, she played a woman who wants to avenge her twin sister's death. I've mentioned the same.
  • The word "fetched" seems a little too informal and I would suggest revising it with a stronger word.
Opted for earned here. Hope that should be fine.
  • Something about the phrasing "failed at the box office" also seems a little too informal to me. I would say instead "were commercially unsuccessful" or something along those lines.
Rephrased as suggested.
  • I am not a fan of the construction "managed to x" and I would suggest removing it completely in the two instance you use and just say "achieved" and "gain" to be more direct and less editorial.
Rephrased as suggested.
  • The lead seems to be completely focused on the commercial success of the films and the actor's awards and nominations. You only mention the actual performance through the brief reference to a "dual role" in the first paragraph. Would it be possible to include more information about some of the characters she played?
I made it for Premam. For the rest, i didn't find any proper description of those roles (some of those are too harebrained).
  • @Pavanjandhyala: Great work with this list. Once my comments are addressed, I will support this nomination. Aoba47 (talk) 15:39, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Aoba47: Thanks for the participation. Looking forward for further constructive comments, if any. Pavanjandhyala 03:58, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: I support this nomination. Aoba47 (talk) 05:09, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. :) Pavanjandhyala 16:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support I couldn't find any issues with the sources, and seeing that comments have already been left here I wouldn't have anything else to add. JAGUAR  14:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much Jaguar. Pavanjandhyala 15:05, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Image is appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:20, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: Thanks for the review. :) Pavanjandhyala 05:20, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Good enough to be an FL. Congrats on your good work, Pavan.Krish | Talk 14:07, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Krish. Pavanjandhyala 14:47, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Source review

I am not too familiar with this project but all citations have consistent dates and archives. I think one reference needs a link (riff) but everything else is reliable. I will give it a support. By,I would appreciate if you could give me a hand with the prose review in my FAC, D.Gray-man.Tintor2 (talk) 15:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Checked all the references now. Thank you so much for the review. And, i am sorry; i can't help you as i am really weak at prose. Pavanjandhyala 16:25, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment another very popular and heavily supported list, within a week of nomination. I'll review this in due course. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:08, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am waiting. Pavanjandhyala 14:24, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Unless she collaborated frequently with her parent/s, we don't need her parents' names here. "Born to the prominent Haasan family" can stay though.
  • She did collaborate with her father in her early stages of career more as a musician (singer, music composer). One of her ongoing projects is directed by that man too.
  • Beginning with the third sentence, I read four consecutive sentences which start with "she made her".
  • "full-fledged" is informal.
  • "She also made her South Indian cinema debut with" so many debuts. "She also appeared in her first South Indian film(s)" might also work.
  • Fixed all the three. Hope those lines look better now.
  • "Haasan received her breakthrough" I don't know but receive does not feel sound. Perhaps "Haasan had her breakthrough playing..." (you might want to describe her role in the film).
  • What can i say about her role in particular? Too vague that shall be. Moreover the sources too would not support that.
  • "She went on to be a part of few successful Telugu films" since they were successful, you need to elaborate; describing her (types of) roles would also do.
  • I might sound too judgemental here, but to be honest, those characters are not well-written/fully developed.
  • " Gabbar Is Back and Welcome Back in Hindi, Srimanthudu in Telugu, Puli and Vedalam in Tamil" an "and" needs to be added after Telugu.
  • Done

Been a while since I was at FLC. – FrB.TG (talk) 23:54, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FrB.TG: All addressed. Looking forward for constructive comments if any. Pavanjandhyala 14:24, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning Oppose

I feel that the prose is severely lacking, and the have some concerns regarding the flow of the lead. However, its nithing that cannot be fixed. Here are some early observations :

  • "Born to the prominent Haasan family, she is the daughter of actor Kamal Haasan and Sarika Thakur." - born "to" a family? I believe "into" is the word that you're looking for?
  • "daughter of actor Kamal Haasan and Sarika Thakur" - isn't Shilpa Thankur an actor too?
  • "made her cinematic debut at the age of six as a singer with the 1992 Tamil film" - somehow this reads rather awkwardly to me, did she play a singer in the film? if so maybe add a little more (you may want to mention that is was a minor role) as currently it's not very clear as to what her role ware.
  • "Her South Indian cinema debut happened with Anaganaga O Dheerudu in Telugu and 7aum Arivu in Tamil;" - "happened" might not be the best suited here, also, isn't Hey Ram her "Tamil debut".

The article reads in a very disconnected way up until now and it doesn't seem to get better :

  • "Haasan received her breakthrough with Harish Shankar's Telugu film Gabbar Singh (2012)." - That sounds like an overstatement; there's no mention as to why this was her breakthrough, also, the lead up until here suggests that her previous roles seem to have earned her repute already, both critically and commercially. Not to say the phrasing is awkward, "receive a breakthrough"?
  • "of few successful Telugu films" - "a few"?
  • "Filmfare Award for Best Actress – Telugu award for her performance in Race Gurram" - repetition of the word Award in close proximity.

The second paragraph is better structured, but, still has some issues, most notably the lengthy yet ambiguous entry on Premam, they are a lot of words for an "average grosser". The comments are not exhaustive, will go through it again. You also might need to work on the flow of sentences, in its current state the leads seems to be doing too much in differentiating Tamil, Telugu and Hindi films, and isn't looking good. NumerounovedantTalk 16:54, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Numerounovedant: Thanks for taking out time to review this candidate. Tried doing what i could, given my limited ability to frame proper sentences. Also, if you believe that Premam was undue, go ahead and remove it. Looking forward to further constructive comments, if any. :) ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 05:48, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I made a couple of changes, feel free to revert/work around them. I still believe that the lead is not the most comprehensive, it can use some expansion/polishing (her roles and the reception of her performances are largely missing). However, it covers her major roles and doesn't seem to have any more glaring flaws, it's a Weak Support. Also, cross check the refs, some of them are not working in my server. Good luck with nomination. NumerounovedantTalk 09:20, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'll check them in the night. ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 10:46, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Editor 2050
  • Support - looks wholly accurate to me content-wise. I cannot find a reliable source, but this is very much true at the moment [2]. Also this was out today - maybe can have some use [3]. Editor 2050 (talk) 11:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Editor 2050: Thank you so much. As for the links, i have no proper idea of how to use them. ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 05:48, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:56, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "music composer" no need for "music".
  • " Haasan started her career " reiterate Shruti Haasan here, the last Haasan you mentioned was Kamal Haasan...
  • I'm afraid I have no idea what a "playback singer" is.
  • "with the 1992 Tamil film" should that be "in the 1992 Tamil film"?
  • "film of the same name" should be the piped link, not just "same name".
  • "Nikkhil Advani " has two k's in his first name.

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:15, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: All of your comments have been resolved.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:52, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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