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Thank you for the Bulgarian translation --Cat out 14:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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Reply. --Cameltrader 18:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
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Boris Mikhailov edit
Hello... okay, that's fine, but all I did was move Boris Mikhailov to Boris Mikhailov (ice hockey), so that I could created a disambiguation page at Boris Mikhailov for both Boris Mikhailov (footballer) and Boris Mikhailov (ice hockey). If there's a problem with the article name of either person, then go ahead and rename it, but as things were, we had Boris Mikhailov for the ice hockey player with no links to the footballer, and Boris Mikhailov (footballer). For what it's worth, the footballer was known by the name "Boris" while he was at Reading Football Club.
- Done. But I haven't deleted the redirect Boris Mikhailov (footballer), as the other editor modified all the links, connecting them to Boris Mikhailov (footballer), while not even one is linked to Borislav Mikhailov.--Aldux 11:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Asen Nikolov edit
Sincerely, I wanted to quote this article when it comes on the net, since "Sport" actually has its own site ([1]), but it is not very frequently updated (currently, 3 days and counting), and even when it is, random articles are excluded. Yet, "Sport" is one of the most reliable sources for sport news in Serbia.
I have seen Nikolov in two games, and the resemblance to Dragan Ćirić (a great talent, bought by Barcelona in 1997, bought again by Partizan in 2004, retired in 2005, in the age of 29, smokes two packs of cigarttes a day) is outstanding. They both were very talented, made almost nothing of what they were capable of and ended their career in Partizan. Nikolov simply cannot run 20 metres without taking a break. That is impossible, I have never seen something like that in professional football. Yet, your younger international Blago Georgiev plays for Red Star with much dispute over his capabilities. He shows almost nothing, his attacking power is mediocre and his performance in defence is close to null and he came here as one of the best players in Bulgaria. If you continue selling us players like these, very soon there will be nobody willing to buy Bulgarian footballers in Serbia. Hopefully, you have some better guys than these two. --Vitriden 12:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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Re; Veljko Petrovic edit
Hmm... I really don't know a lot about Haiduk Veljko. I know that it is claimed that eastern Serbia (and thus Timocka Krajina) is claimed to have been populated by ethnic Bulgarians right up until a while ago. Anyway, it is generally known that since the old Medieval ages Bulgarians or at least Slavs under Bulgarian influence/rule more than half of present-day Serbia. I don't think that the Bulgarian claim lies in just that. I promise I'll look into the issue - but if you've found some reliable sources, I encourage you to put it into the article as a possibility. After all, the article on Milos (K)Obilic mentions his supposed both Bulgarian and Albanian ethnic origin. :) What does the Bulgarian encyclopedia say 'bout him? Or the Macedonian? P. S. He wasn't a "Grand" Duke (I think). --HolyRomanEmperor 18:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- The claim on Milos Obilic is mainly based on national foklkore - all Balkan nations claim him because of his alleged success (AFAIC - he's not even Serbian, but Montenegrin - whoops! are Montenegrins really Serbs?!?!? :))) This Balchannalia can't stop hurting my brains!!!). Historically, Serbs lived on the Rashka region (modern-day Sandzak), Metohija, parts of Kosovo and Macedonia, Zeta (Montenegro). The majority was actually in Herzegovina and Bosnia. There was no (or little) Serb population in the early medieval ages north of the Danube, or even Western Morava - and most definately no in the Southern Morava (up until the Nemanjics). This is something claimed by Serbian historians (good ones) and I think is also claimed by others (Bulgarian historians?) - thus, there is no reason to dispute it. --HolyRomanEmperor 20:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- Well, what if the people doesn't know what it wants? :) More and more Montenegrins opt for the Montenegrin language and Montenegrin Orthodox Church - rather than the Serbian; and more and more Montenegrins opt Serbian nationality, rather. Montenegro's situation is confusing; altogether because of its current regime. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
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Largo edit
Concerning "Largo, Sofia", I think largo simply used to mean "a square" (площад), there's nothing distinctive about exactly this place being a largo. --Cameltrader 10:34, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- NP, just letting you know in case you didn't, because in the article it looked to me like a proper name (and apparently it has already become such). :) I don't mean to change anything. I'm not aware about other largos in Sofia — I know there are places they call largo in Varna and Rousse (...no "regional patriotism" intended), and maybe many other cities with a broad central square. --Cameltrader 11:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Todor! edit
Can you please deal with that? •NikoSilver• 22:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Stara Zagora edit
Although I love Bulgaria very much, I know little about Stara Zagora specifically. I only put the article on my Watchlist because I read about it after making a friend from there. I'm certainly not trying to hide negative portrayals of the city. It's just that the addition of a *.free.bg link to the article popped up on my Watchlist, and the matter seemed rather suspicious. It's been so long since I paid much attention to the article that I didn't notice the presence of the other ext. link to an image gallery, but I'd like to see that removed as well. Let's do like Thessaloniki and add good GFDL images to the article itself, many city articles have had ext. links to image galleries removed. CRCulver 20:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- If the images in the ext. link are already GFDL, then it would be best to bring them into WP, establish a "Gallery" section in the article, and then remove the external link. CRCulver 20:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Museum edit
"Historical" sounds as if the museum used to function once, but now it doesn't. Try searching for "history Museum" vs "historical museum" in List of museums and you'll notice that most museums of this type are described as "history museums". And, of course, I wouldn't mind adding "regional". --Cameltrader 15:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Do as you find appropriate, I will not edit war on that, though I am not convinced "historical" is the better one. Btw, guess which country's museum owns "historymuseum.org" :) --Cameltrader 15:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
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Double standards and hypocricy on Wikipedia edit
Mr. Bozhinov, its highly obnoxious and hypocritical that you dare to speak about RULES, when it is absolutely obvious that people like you are constantly breaking every possible RULE that exists on Wikipedia and worst of all no one stops you. If you are really concerned with the rules then I stronmgly suggest that you start by warning your bulgarian friends: Funkyfly for instance. Every single Macedonian article is being constantly abused by 2-3 same people (always incl.Funkyfly). Even Kiro Gligorov's article is not being spared although thats a living person biography and should be handled with great care.
But of course who cares, who is listening to me anyway
Particluary about the dispute on the Ilinden uprising artcile: you insist on using that photo which doesnt have any SOURCE, ANY DESCRIBTION, ANY LINK TO SOME WEBPAGE (that would be the least u can do) etc. You just say "the pic is licenced" and those are YOUR REALLY CONVINCING ARGUMENTS.
You dont provide any rationale or anything, its absolutely obvious that you abuse Wikipedia as your own private webpage, you are too arrogant to explain anything, its like you are sultans or something here. What RULES are you talking about? Then you insist on using the name of the Organization: BMARO, although according to the VMRO article the name since 1902 was SMARO (there are sources cited there as well). the preparations and the uprising itself were in 1903, the decisions for the uprising were made at the Solun and Smilevo congress in 1903. At that moment the organization was SMARO and not BMARO. Also for the flag I placed, everything is well explained: the flag says 20 of July and MAP OF MACEDONIA, NOT THRACE, NOT DOBRUDJA, NOT MISIA, NOT COSTA RICA, NOT PALMA DE MAYORKA, NOT CHUKCHA but a map of Macedonia and the date of the Macedonian uprising. The Preobrazenie uprising was much later, on the 19th of August when the Krushevo republic was already destroyed, the flag that I placed IS NOT RELATED TO PREOBRAZENIE UPRISING in any possible way (geographical, visual, historical, logicall, sociological). as for reporting I would gladly report you and Funkyfly and many others, you are abusing almost all the articles related to Macedonia (region, Republic of Macedonia etc. I DID try peaceful negotiations and solutions with Funkyfly, I even asked user Aldux to be our mediator, but for no avail, everyone can see these discussions are public. Because of these things, more and more people disregard wikipedia a s a reliable source. this is ridiculuos, couple of persons are writing the whole modern history of Macedonia on wikipedia?? --Vbb-sk-mk 17:55, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Reply subject:3RR: Mr. Todor Bozinov, thank you for your reply but dont try to de-focus the main subject of our conversation (the DOUBLE STANDARDS) with completely irrelevant things such your personal impressions about that SUN on the flag. no one ever said that it is the same as the star of Vergina (??), even if it is- no one can prove incl. you, your visual impression of that symbol doesn't have to be an expert opinion.I just say the same symbols are being used in the modern Coat of arms of the Republic of Macedonia designed back in 1946: the wreath of weath, the sun and the mountain. That is not related to the star of vergina or who knows after all, its not a subject here at all.
That map on the flag is the WIDER REGION OF MACEDONIA AS IT IS PRESENTED (by consensus) IN THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE Macedonia (region). How come that map is okay for THAT article but suddenly you are suspicious about it? If that flag was just a 'modern nationalist make-up' the writting on the flag would be in standard Macedonian language without any Ъ, Ю, Я and the date would be 2nd of August not 20th of July. Also i provided every possible info that i know about that image, incl. links to relevant institutions incl. the State Archives, fair use rationale (a whole dissertation) and all. You dont explain anything, so you are not only avoiding rules, but you also encourage others to deliberatly put unsourced images and to use wikipedia as a children playground. The picture you insist on is not a "work of art" like an artistic painting or something similar but its a HISTORICAL FLAG and there are specific licencing tags and certain rules regarding that type of images. Knowing this I have uploaded my pic under fairuse with an appropriate explanation + a request for an independent review.
The Preobrazhenie uprising started on the 19th of August much later after the Ilinden uprising was already defeated and after the Krushevo republic was already burnt to the ground. How come now that Krushevo flag which clearly depicts only Macedonia (region) and the date 20 July without any reference to Strandzha mountain and Thrace and 19th August is suddenly related to the Preobvrazhenie uprising?? (like you claim in the text below the image). Krusevo republic was formed as a result ONLY of the Ilinden Uprising and its not related to the Preobrazhenie uprising. Full stop. Claiming anything else is an insult to any rational thinking.
And here are the RULES regarding images and particulary the use of flags which you obviously avoid:
Wikipedia:Images
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Incudes some flag-specific tags
As for Funkyfly's behavior, its anything but serious and neutral, all of the discussions are public and everyone can see that. Im offten trying to avoid making changes to the articles unilateraly, I always try to discuss everything beforehand on the discussion pages, I always explain the nature of the changes in the "edit summary field" , but for no avail. what i receive in response is cynicism etc. (academic citation: Blah-Blah-Blah author: Funkyfly, link: Aldux user talk). Im not against a healthy dose of irony but this went too far. BTW his/her "solid statements" regarding Kiro Gligorov consist of certain document scans issued by the authorities of the nazi puppet state Kingdom of Bulgaria in 1942 (quite "democratic" times) and they are published on a website of a nationalist political party VMRO-BND. Kiro Gligorov allegedly signed those documents and only two years after, in 1944, he is suddenly at ASNOM fighting that same Kingdom of Bulgaria? Very "NPOV" and "academic". Bravo. As for my "nationalism", compared to what you guys are doing here- its below anything extreme.--Vbb-sk-mk 20:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Just want to add that Vbb-sk-mk, totally in spirit of many fellow Republicans, considers mentions of bulgarian nationality an "abuse". Double standards? Hypocricy? Paranoia? :) /FunkyFly.talk_ 00:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- Anything but extreme. How insightful. /FunkyFly.talk_ 04:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I think this new article of mine may interest you. If you have additions or suggestions to make, please do so. Currently I think it looks OK, with a few problems:
- More sources needed
- More details (deaths in custody, the nature of forced labour in 1962-89, etc.)
- My source on Belene Island indicates that the camp there continued to operate in 1954-6, while our article implies it closed for that period. We should straighten this out.
- The title may be flawed. On the one hand, the article is about a little more than just the camps. On the other hand, we probably can't yet call it "repression in Communist Bulgaria", as it hardly covers all the means of repression (secret police, censorship, etc.). Also, "the Bulgarian Gulag" might have POV issues. Let's try to sort this out, since I eventually plan similar articles for PL, HU, CZ, DDR, RO, AL, and YU. Biruitorul 04:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for your suggestions, Todor. I did merge the Deportation section and do some re-arranging. Also, that list of Belene inmates on bg.wiki looks quite intriguing. I won't ask you to translate all six articles on persons in that list, but the one on Muraviev would be good to have, because I added mention of him, and he is an important figure. Anyway, take your time. Biruitorul 02:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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Ha ha ha? edit
How do you anger Bulgarians, Greeks but also Albanians and Serbs? Or make them laugh? Look at [2]. It is the official history of the 'country' as presented by the government in its official brochure. Of course, like all good fiction, it has a copywrite at the botom of the page. Politis 09:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Muchas gracias edit
Hey Todor, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Gligan edit
Zdrasti, Todore. Otnosno napadkite: kak moje da pi6a v statiite za Kavala, Drama, Kostur, 4e sa bili 4ast ot na6ata strana prez srednovekovieto, a te da go mahat, pri uslovie 4e tova e napalno vqrno i podneseno na hubav ezik. Kak da ne gi ...... tezi gartsi ...... . Makedoniq ne sam obijdal, za6toto e balgarska (ili pone naselena ot balgari). Sajalqvam 4e ti otgovarqm 4ak sega, no predi malko se dosetih kak da ti pi6a.
Ako ima6 vreme, postavqi pove4e snimki, poneje ne znam kak (moga samo da kopiram sa6testvuva6ti). Dobre e da ima pove4e takiva v statiite za kurortite, stadionite, zlatnata maska i dr. A, znae6 li za6to statiqta za istoriq na Balgariq ne se raz6irqva? (kato napi6a ne6to obiknoveno se maha)
- Mnogo blagodarq za otgovora. Be6e mi naistina polezen.
- Ne misli6 li 4e trqbva da se pi6e o6te pove4e za stranata. Kak moje statiqta za rumaniq da e po-golqma? Nqkoi ne6ta, koito bqh pisal v na4alnata stranitsa se mahat i ne znam za6to. Naprimer za sport ili za natsionalnite praznitsi. 41kb ne e mnogo, za Ispaniq naprimer sa 99kb. Pozdravi--Gligan 19:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Zapisah se v tozi uiki-proekt, no ne znam za kakvo sluji; ako moje6 mi obqsni v edno izre4enie. Za bitkata pri Bregalnitsa imam pitane: tq e napisana SAMO ot srabska gledna to4ka, a vsa6tnost nie q pe4elim. Kogato go popravih, nqkoi mi be6e napisal 4e izvorite so4at 4e pobedata e tqhna i mi be6e poso4il nqkakvi srabski i angliiski izto4nitsi (poslednite nesamneno izpolzvat srabski). Mnogo se draznq taka i ne znam kakvo da pravq; dali da ne napravq paralelna statiq; dali da ne potarsq na6i izto4nitsi? Ako napravq poslednoto, te 6te kajat, 4e v proslovutata Britanska Entsiklopediq pi6e tqhnoto, a pak tam polzvat srabski izto4nitsi. --Gligan 17:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for your comments on my userpage, I still think the phrasing in the section we talked about is biased though. Ideally the section should 1) Describe the geographic area historically before it was part of Bulgaria 2) Describe the current meaning of "Pirin Macedonia" if any. The part that I consider to be most strongly biased is: The region is regarded by many of the people living in the Republic of Macedonia as part of an irredentist imaginary state that unites the whole geographical region of Macedonia.
However, these claims are due to the long period of propaganda-like history in the Republic Macedonia.
As the article mentions, mainstream Republic of Macedonia doesn't have aspirations to annex it anymore, so what is the harm is mentioning that it was annexed by Bulgaria early in the 20th century? There were a lot of shifting populations and borders at the time, I know, but we should be going for the most impartial possible representation and not one that is hostile to Macedonians. thanks Dan Carkner 14:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I made some more extensive edits to this section, trying to balance out the Macedonian/Bulgarian viewpoints a bit more. Feel free to change it more if you disagree with it, reading it more closely it wasn't too anti-Macedonian to begin with anyways, just the wording needed some improvement. Howevever I thought it was fair to add in more information from the other perspective. Dan Carkner 14:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Per your comment on its talk page many months ago, I have been bold and made this into a disambiguation page. It seems like you might be able to think of more spelling difference articles than me, so please expand the page if you can: It badly needs expansion. Thanks. Grandmasterka 10:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Image:Blagoevgrad Oblast map EN.PNG edit
Hi, I noticed on your map of Blagoevgrad Province the names of Razlog and Bansko have been switched... Preslav 14:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- OK, you're not the source of the mistake, but on all my maps of Bulgaria as well as in reality, Razlog is north of Bansko. Reminds me of Control Risks Group, who have been claiming for years that Vitosha is north of Sofia. I never trusted their security advice after reading that... Preslav 19:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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Hey there edit
I realised the other day that I never properly thanked you for your advice on travel in Bulgaria! Bad me. I'm actually planning to go to Europe in the next year or two, and I might be passing pretty close to Bulgaria. If I do, I'll make sure to visit as many of the places you recommended as I can (the Rila Monastery in particular sounded pretty cool)
Also, due to trying to further my German studies I figured I'd look up some colleagues of Rammstein musically, and I especially liked Megaherz & Eisbrecher (by the way, have you heard Antikörper yet?) I dunno if you found this, but I really felt like listening to music in a language really helped me to increase my vocab.
Anywho, sorry again for taking so long to respond. Heh. Tev 05:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
If you have time, would you look at the discussion here? The article could do with revision, that's agreed, but the question is, should the title be changed? Thanks in advance Andrew Dalby 14:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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Bulgarian diplomatic missions edit
Thanks for your contribution, Todor.
Could you please format it to be similar to the other diplomatic missions by country articles. I have not added in the names of ambassadors for other countries because they keep changing.
Thank you again,
Kransky 13:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
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Osogovo edit
Well I did notice the upper and lower case “П" but I thought that was just a typing error, I didn't realise the significance. Do you think it's a better idea to write - (Планина - sometimes using a lowercase 'p' as it only means "mountain")? Evlekis 10:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes but isn't Bulgarian just a case of "Расипано Македонски?", or was Macedonian "Развълено Български"? I can never remember which. Only joking! I see what you mean now. Well you could just use the Bulgarian name, I doubt many Macedonians will take exception. After all, we agreed not to use the Macedonian name for Kyustendil some time back and nobody worried about that. I'll leave it to you. Evlekis 15:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
can you look at this page because it is infringing a copyright http://www.bulgaria.com/photos/devin/index.html.
Thanks HB from fr:Wikipedia 14:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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Antibulgariannes of the Macedonian mass media and politics edit
Dear Todor, check this text. There were better presentations of this research, but unfortunately they are vanished in the internet's abyss. About the same attitude of the Macedonian authorities check this official Bulgarian position. Best wishes, Jackanapes 17:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- No, dear, first article describes a scientific statistical and anthropological research, objective by definition. The second is repercussion of one notorious fact. Само че ти, Тодоре, явно не го знаеш. Ако ще твърдиш, че изследването на Българската медийна коалиция е необективно - докажи го. Не го ли направиш - няма да е етично да релативизираш резултатите на изследването с клеймото "българска гледна точка". Впрочем всичко написано от мен в тази статия може да се аргументира със стотици актове и изявления на македонските официални лица и медии от последните години. Защо не спреш да триеш и коментираш въпроси, които сякаш не са ти добре познати? - Jackanapes 17:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- П. п. Тодоре, относно втората част от бележките ти. Македонските медии се занимават с България в няколко сравнително стеснени ракурса - потиснатото македонско малцинство в България, българо-македонските исторически спорове, българското присъединяване към ЕС, българските паспорти за македонски граждани. Съответно това са и главните области на разпростиране на най-негативните спрямо България медии в света. В по-обширните представяния на изследването на БМК това бе описано, но, както бях написал, тези текстове за съжаление вече са недостъпни в интернет. Не ми остава друго освен да ти пожелая да започнеш да четеш македонски средства за масово осведомяване, може и да повярваш... - Jackanapes 18:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- П. п. п. Добър тон спрямо човек, който трие чужди текстове поради непознаване на дадена материя? Ха... - Jackanapes 18:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- П. п. п. п. Тодоре, вече прекаляваш. Четеш подборно статията, която съм ти предложил:
- Не казвам, че не е обективна, но международен или чужд източник би бил по-авторитетен в този случай. Освен това статията споменава единствено, че в Р Македония са "по-критични" и се споменават някои случаи на негативно отразяване на събитията в България в македонските медии. По никакъв начин нямаме потвърждение, че става въпрос за "повечето македонски медии", нито пък за систематичност или антибългарски настроения.
- Всъщност заглавието на статията е "Турски, македонски и испански медии най-негативни към България". Негативни. Да потретя, може и да го разбереш - негативни. След това се посочва степента на негативност в низходящ ред (както бе казано в по-пълните представяния на изследването): "Според данните най-критични към България са македонските, турските и испанските медии." Как се става най-негативен в света (в света!) в медийно отношение спрямо България - чрез масово и систематично негативно писане, естествено. Тодоре, моля, задействай логическото си мислене! - Jackanapes 18:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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Можеше да вържеш българската статия с тази, за да не ми трябват 2 дена ровене докато намеря как се казва на английски. Аз я кръстих Bulgarian Secondary School for Boys in Thessaloniki (не знам как да я изтрия, виж та направи нещо), мислех да я преведа цялата, но току-що се отказах, можеш да си я довършиш. За разлика от теб, аз не виждам смисъл да има 3 реда преведени от статия за бройка, които на всичкото отгоре не са вързани с българската статия. Petja 06:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
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Извинявай за тона, в 7 часа сутринта не съм особено дружелюбна, а тези дни само тогава имам време за уикипедията... :( Сега ще се обоснова:
Предполагам, че за толкова много време тук си забелязал, че тези ботове не си вършат много работата. Аз съм отскоро, а вече колко български статии ми се наложи да вържа, защото бяха само едностранно закачени. Знам, че е губене на време да закачаш двустранно, но само си помисли колко много време някой след теб може да загуби да преведе това, което вече е преведено, да трие или пренасочва страници, защото бота няма да си е свършил работата. В случая наистина става дума за 4-5 реда, но аз определено щях да я преведа докрай, даже сутринта се бях запътила да попреведа малко (не мога да го направя наведнъж), но видях, че някакъв бот (от тези дето си вършат работата) е закачил linkless на страницата ми. Викам си, тука нещо не е както трябва, и прерових сайтовете на български към които българската статия сочи, и в английската версия на един от тях открих синя връзка към твоята статия. Значи можеш да си представиш колко излишно ровене щеше да ми спести ако статията ти беше закачена.
Колкото до мъничетата: знам, че са от помощ и те, но според мен има много по-голяма вероятност статията да бъде изцяло преведена, ако не е започната като мъниче. Това си е психология - аз самата като видя мъниче, и си викам "бе вече са превели нещо, к'во ще се занимавам повече" и отивам да намеря червена връзка. (Въпреки, че довърших превода на Леденика, който ти беше почнал... но защото съм врачанка, не за друго...) И вярвай ми, не само на мен ми се струва по-важно да запълня червена връзка, отколкото да разширявам мъниче. И се получава така, че по-маловажни статии, започнати от червена връзка са направени големи, а важни статии, които са направени мъничета, защото е било важно да се направят, си остават мъничета. Така, че по-добре да ги оставяш празни, ако мислиш, че няма да имаш кога да ги допреведеш.
Ще видя да допреведа за Солунската гимназия все пак, но съм почнала и два превода от английски на български, не знам кога ще имам време. :(
Сега трябва да бягам (чакат ме да ме черпят в ресторант, хехе), лека вечер.
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- With 27 votes in favour and the rest, up to 331, absent, the French Senate ratified the accession Treaty of Romania to the EU on Tuesday evening. The lack of interest shown by the French senators does not show that they are indifferent to the question, but rather that a pre-determined consensus already existed.
What say you? Biruitorul 23:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've reverted the latest change. Biruitorul 15:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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Видях, че си преместил Uhlovitsa Cave, но според мен трябва да се определи, защото има село със същото име, по-скоро то би взело заглавието Uhlovitsa, трябва да има разграничение.Petja 20:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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Vidiah, che si slozhil merge template-a. Pravilno. Greshkata e moia - ne idiah drugata statia, vapreki che tarsih. Niamashe i link ot BG Wikipediata ili categoriite.
Statiite ni sa mnogo identichni, taka che niama da ima koi znae kakvi problemi s merge-a, edinstveniat po-seriozen vapros e koe ime da izpolzvame: Durzhavna Sigurnost ili Committee for State Security.
Az lichno smiatam parvoto za po-pravilno, kato se ima predvid, che za KGB, Securitate et al. se izpolzvat originalnite imena na saotventiat ezik. Kazhi kakvo mislish.
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Dude, what are you doing... don't redirect the page, you're not saving it from vandalism, actually, what you're doing is as bad as vandalism. Just use the revert function to undo malicious edits, redirecting doesn't help, actually, it only prevents the article from displaying and is not a measure against vandalism. Thanks. Todor→Bozhinov 12:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
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Драги Тодоре,
Ако може да помоля да прегледаш и ако се налага редактираш англоезичната статия за българския герб. Преработих я основно, от фактологична гледна точка информацията е на място, но от езикова и стилова - не съм уверен.
Желая приятни празнични дни: Jackanapes 10:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
П. п. И аз благодаря за съдействието! Резултатът е много стегнат и стилен. Гербът ни заслужаваше по-пространна статия, струва ми се. - Jackanapes 13:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
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Мисля, че Lake Varna е неточно - езерото не се казва Варна. За мен е приемливо да стане "Varna lake", защото при такава подредба името вече ще изпълнява ролята на прилагателно. Поздрави, Goldie (tell me) 03:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
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Имам следното питане. В англоезичната статия за Добруджа няколко румънци трият всеки мой опит да се напише информация за българското присъствие в този регион през Средните векове. В същото време за над четири века българска власт в тези земи има три мънички абзаца, скромно сгушени между пространни описания на античността и модерната румънска история. Няма обособени подраздели за Първото и Второто български царства, те са слети в общи подраздели с тези за управлението на Византия. Всеки мой опит да създам отделни хронологично обусловени български подглави и да ги развия на основата на академична историческа и археологическа информация беше посрещнат с връщане на предишните варианти. Накрая бях и блокиран. А статията в сегашния й вид е откровен израз на румънски национализъм. Румънските й редактори не желаят друго освен тяхната гледна точка, която най-често изобщо не е защитена с цитати от неутрална или обективна научна литература, но гъмжи от съмнителни твърдения. Нямам намерение да заличавам нещо, искам единствено да добавя, но... не ми се позволява. Какво може да се направи, какво би посъветвал?
Приеми поздравите ми: Jackanapes 20:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Здравей, драги Тодоре! Ще постъпя както казваш, ще съставя допълненията и ще ги поставя заедно с новите подраздели.
Относно проявите на румънски национализъм. За нас, българите, античната история привидно не е част от тази на съвременните румънци. Тя обаче е фундамент на румънския национален мит, според който днешните романоезични са предимно потомци на синтеза между балканското население и Рим. В тази национална митология мястото на Рим е хипертрофирало за сметка на неглижираните славянски и български влияния.
За Първото и Второто български царства и почти пълното им пренебрегване вече писах.
Точка втора. Огромната глава "Independent Dobruja. The wars against the Ottomans" е спекулативна. В нея е отразена гледната точка на румънската националистическа историография, която се е опитвала да снижи значението или отрече връзките на този район с Второто българско царство. Вследствие на това се създава измамното впечатление, че българска власт през 14 век там почти не е имало.
Точка трета. За Възраждането на българите и Добруджа - нито дума.
Точка четвърта. Демографските сведения за Добруджа в навечерието на Берлинския конгрес не са аргументирани с неутрални и що-годе обективни източници, българската гледна точка не е спомената. Твърдението за румънско болшинство в Северна Добруджа към този момент е най-малкото спорно.
Точка пета. Няма никаква информация за развитието на Южна Добруджа в периода 1878-1912. Цялата подглава засяга единствено румънските територии и то в руслото на румънската гледна точка, не се споменава да речем за унищожаването на българските църква и образователна система там.
Точка шеста. Румънските териториални претенции към нерумънски добруджански земи като компенсация за българското разширение към Тракия и Македония (с нейните арумъни) по време на Балканските войни са отразени тенденциозно. Показателна за това е забележителната формулировка "In May 1913, the Great Powers awarded Silistra and the area in a 3 km radius around it to Romania, at the Saint Petersburg Conference.".
Точка седма. Нито дума за съдбата на българите в Южна Добруджа след 1918, а какво остава за въоръжената борба на българите срещу румънската власт и добруджанските революционни организации.
Точка осма. В областта не е имало местни румънци, за каквито се споменава, които да трябвало да я напуснат при връщането й на България през 1940. Изселените тогава са почти единствено румънски колонисти и деца на такива, второ поколение родени там румънци практически не е имало.
Точка девета. Демографските сведения от таблиците са съмнителни, особено за по-старите периоди.
Точка десета. За Южна Добруджа от 1940 до наши дни - нищо.
Точка единадесета. Цитираната литература засяга единствено румънската страна...
Приеми поздравите ми:
Jackanapes 11:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
П. п. Поради обременеността на историографските традиции и на двете страни с вариращи в конкретните случаи дози едностранчив патриотизъм може би най-удачно би било различните гледни точки да се излагат паралелно със съответните референции. Не зная обаче доколко румънските родолюбци биха приели такъв плуралистичен подход... - Jackanapes 11:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Your Gilberto Silva contribution edit
Hi there
Just popping by to say thanks for your contribution to the Style of Play section of the Gilberto Silva article. It's a very interesting fact! - and very surprising.
All the best, GilbertoSilvaFan 16:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)