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Well, thanks for the star :) I don't contribute to DYK as often as used to do. When I'm not so busy, I'll try to nominate articles by others as I formerly did. I believe we should involve more prolific contributors into the process. Cheers, Ghirla -трёп- 11:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


I have further modified my signature. Can you please check and tell whether the present one is OK. This is less than two lines. It is as per the guidelines given in WP:SIGNATURE#Length Doctor BrunoTalk 12:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Changed to Doctor BrunoTalk 19:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you Samir you are a star. I can work on stuff without people deleting it before it is finished. This is good. how do you do that?

User space

can I make more of my own pages in userspace and how do I do this? Thanks in advanced I know you must be very busy Harbourcoat 12:26, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

well I know that you must be busy cause you always get loads of messages but from me Dhanyavaad Harbourcoat 12:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


i have a lot of images of mgramachandran which i hold the copyright as i am his grandson. i am new to wikipedia so please help me on how to upload the pictures with the right copyright.

Thank you

The prompt response is very much appreciated.

Zola 15:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the plate of cookies you left on my talk page the other day! :) I'm not sure why, but I only just noticed them tonight. I can't say I've had the experience of having one of my doctors bake me anything, but at least I can now say that I've experienced it in a virtual sense!
By the way, when I was coming here to your page, I forgot the (The Scope) part and went to User:Samir by mistake. The username has no contribution history and doesn't exist in the user creation log (or any log that I could see), but there was a message on the talk page from User:Ghoshi. When I clicked onto Ghoshi's talk page, I realised that the post on Samir's talk page seems to be a response to a question you asked Ghoshi in July. Anyway, I'm going to move their comment here after this message, but I thought maybe User:Samir should be blocked and maybe the pages redirected here since you sign as Samir and there's probably a reasonable chance that people might mistakenly go looking for you at User:Samir. The account doesn't have an edit history and I'm really not sure if it actually exists, but I redirected the user and talk pages to your userspace until you have the chance to decide what to do. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 16:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

No, no cookies. I worked in the Medical Support Unit for the RAAF (Air Force) and a doctor there once took me to the Officer's Mess for lunch. And a couple of years ago I worked for a Nursing Unit Manager who used to cook us soup in the middle of the night. But sadly I've never worked for a doctor who has baked us anything. :(
By the way, I have a q for you. Would you class UTIs as an STD? It seems like a very narrow way to class a broad and wide infection. The actual Urinary Tract Infection article mentions sexual activity, but it doesn't define it as an STD. Then you get to the very end of the article and there's the STD template. I think the template without any explanation in the text could be a bit conusing to non-medical people. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 18:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for multiple edits, but I have another question...In Australia, drugs like morphine and pethidine are kept locked in a separate DD (dangerous drugs) safe or special locked cupboard and when a nurse administers them, another nurse checks the dose and counter-signs the DD book. Is it true that in Canada, the nurses just keep morph/peth in the drug trolley with everything else, give it independently and that they don't have to counter-sign for each other when administering it? Sarah Ewart (Talk) 18:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Your information on all fronts was very helpful. I'm going to go ahead and remove UTIs from the template and I'll try to explain it to Qrc2006. Thanks Samir, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 19:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Moved from User talk:Samir

Hi Samir

I got this from a source. This source is writing a book based on Binaca geetmala which will be published in November, and has asked me not to publish the lists on the internet anymore. Will you kindly take down the lists and wait till around November before posting them again. Many thanks--Ghoshi 18:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The Freak Accident

I'm a little bit confused about your decision on The Freak Accident to deny A7 speedy deletion. I am not challenging your authority to make that call and respect your decision. I just don't understand it. It's my goal to master the speedy deletion method, so if you have anything else you could tell me about your decision that might help, please do so. Erechtheus 19:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Thank you for the explanation. I did not know that there was such a dispute over A7. Now that you have clued me in, that explains quite a bit about why I have seen that category treated the way it was. Erechtheus 02:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


That's why I figured the image would help. Now it's a surprise why they suspected arson. Anyway, I'm glad to see something unconventional featured on the main page every once in a while. I'm glad you liked it. - Mgm|(talk) 19:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Moving Hesselbach's triangle

Could you move Hesselbach's triangle to inguinal triangle-- as suggested on Talk:Hesselbach's triangle. Thanks. Nephron  T|C 23:08, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

You heard

With a dollop of ice cream, of course!

Thanks for the apple pie, doctor; it was quite thoughtful. ;) Here's some for you as well for all the hard work you do around here. Cheers, Sango123 00:57, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


You don't accept Barnstars? You deserve them so much... --Deenoe 02:09, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


could you please unblock me, Samir. I truly wish to cooperate to make this template the best it can be. I will not add Hepatitis C back in, allthough i believe the debate should continue and then it should either not be returned or just permanently kept off whatever the consensus is. But i wasnt able to add crabs, had to get someone else to help me. And now i belive the page is "protected", i have many suggestions for bettering it. see the talk page. Qrc2006 04:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

thank you very much, and yes i do agree that the information must be accurate.

Another user told me that you are a doctor. Let me ask you, can Hepatitis C be transmitted by anal-oral contact also known as Analingus and Rimming. If person A licks person Bs anus without a barrier, could they get Hepatitis C? Qrc2006 04:58, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

are you sure, well im glad to hear it, my mom allways gets mad at me when i mention ive rimmed someone, cuz i do it without a barrier as long as the person is right out of the shower, im vaccinated for A and B, and yeah i was always told the chance was so low to get C from it that it was safe. Do you know why the CDC wesbite says that stuff about risky sexual behavior and hep c with the links i provided to the CDC on the talk page.

Vandalism on my userpage

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my userpage, with the image being swapped for that .gif - I don't understand what his/her problem was (I've never encountered the username before), but I'm guessing a sockpuppet of a user who I have disagreed with in the past. And thanks for blocking both vandalism-only accounts indef. Thanks again! Daniel.Bryant 12:29, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Beats By the Pound

Hi Samir, no problem. You have done a good job with it.--Dakota 14:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


Dear Sir

What do you suggest for {{User Swastikan}}?



I included anti-CD3 approaches because Van Heel & West devote space to it in their very thorough review and clearly felt it was promising. That's why I referenced the list itself to their review, with specific points referenced to other sources. I cannot personally judge whether anti-CD3 induced immune tolerance is any less experimental than PEP/EPB2 enzyme therapy, of which even phase I trials still need wide dissemination! JFW | T@lk 09:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, I reread the article's paragraph on anti-CD3. All the references (117-119) are to papers about T1DM. It is quite brave to use infliximab in coeliac, given the lymphoma risk inherent in coeliac. JFW | T@lk 19:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, now was that worth a Barnstar? Gratitude. JFW | T@lk 09:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK update

Hi Samir. Could you check out T:TDYK. No one has updated it since a long time today (16 hours as of now). - Aksi_great (talk) 18:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I am happy to have received so many compliments for a DYK. I suddenly remembered about the shaking minarets that day and decided to write an article about it. Am glad it turned out to be so good. I am also very busy with my studies these days. Though I make it a point to spend some time at wikipedia to relax. - Aksi_great (talk) 15:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi back at ya!

Hi Samir, and thanks for the heads up! I thought that it would be okay to close the no consensus ones, as that defaults to keep, but I'll stick to the Keep, merge, and redirect ones as per the link you gave me.

Just a quick question for my own clarification. You see, I started closing the discussion becuase I saw such a big backlog there, and I'm going up for Admin relativley soon, so I thought that it could only help. But wouldn't closing no consensus AfDs fall under WP:IAR? This isn't an attempt to still try and close no consensus AfD's, but as I say, I'm going up for Adminship soon, and worried if these closures may have an adverse affect on my RfA. Thanks for any advise. Yours, Thε Halo Θ 13:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Phew! I'll stick with you're advise, and keep to the keep/merge/redirects. I'm just glad I haven't stuffed up my RfA ;) And thanks for saying you agreed with my closures. It's nice to know that I'm not making a fool of myself :) Many thanks for your advise, and take care. Thε Halo Θ 13:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, another one

Hey Samir. Thanks for reverting. Here's another one User:Krazy Bhadva. This is the original one infact -- Lost(talk) 13:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Crazy Bhadva another one -- Lost(talk) 13:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Crazy Bhadva

Could you block? Sockpuppet. Thanks. — Ravikiran 13:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. — Ravikiran 13:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:Krazy Krazy

Amazing where the human mind gets motivation from!! Just the name should qualify it for DYK :) -- Lost(talk) 13:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

My pages

Hi Samirjee, while I thank you and others for removing repeated vandalism from my user and talk pages, I do believe that all pages belong to Wikipedia Foundation and I do not own anything here, except the pride of being a true wikipedian. Rather I feel privileged to edit wikipedia: foolish or intelligent vandalism, including to my user and talk pages, are not going to deter me from my mission statement on my user page: "I am here with a mission: to contribute to realize the objectives of the dream of Jimbo Wales (the founder and the president of the Wikimedia Foundation) and his team." Regards. --Bhadani 14:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

However, I do believe that when the entire wikipedia is open to be freely edited, I do not mind some vandals visiting my user and talk pages to record their remarks. Such foolish remarks like Bhadani is a pimp and so on is not going to deter me from my mission. I request you to please unprotect both the pages: let 100s of vandals should come, they would find that they shall fail to kill my motivation to be around wikipedia. Let 100 flowers bloom! --Bhadani 15:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


Thanks Samir!

This is my first barnstar ever, so it is even more appreciated. Of course my real goal is to improve WP and not collect accolades, but they are nonetheless appreciated. I do hope that he will make an effort and take to heart all the advice from all of us, and breeze thru next time. Thanks again, Crum375 15:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I also notice you only give, not receive ;^) Crum375 15:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually he does receive, but doesnt store them... Searching.... -- Lost(talk) 17:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
More fun to give. Others do far far more here than me. -- Samir धर्म 18:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK Conflict!!

DYK was not updated for 21 hours & when I did try to update it I get edit-conflicted by you!! Something more than coincidence is working here.... I suspect a conspiracy... you're an alien with a mission to read my wiki-thoughts & conflict me so much so that I go insane!! I will not let you succeed!!! MWAHAHAHAHA >:D Anyway ignoring my craziness above, how have you been? I've been meaning to write you a mail but have been too tied up with my college stuff. Anyway keep checking the scope, I'll be dropping by...eventually :P Cheers --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 17:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


Just got back from a Wikibreak, and saw that you'd handed me a barnstar. Thanks! -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 18:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


This article has been on AfD for over a week. Do you think its time to make a decision either way? -Nrets 21:36, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Sick leave

Yup.. Possible testicular cancer. I'll know tomorrow, and since you're a doctor, you know that I might go on a BEP Chimiotherapy =( --Deenoe 00:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Let's hope.. it's been 6 months now... Just wondering.. From you doctor's opinion, If I get chemio, will I be able to continue attending school (except for the 72 hours of chemio)? --Deenoe 00:17, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, you're a great guy Samir. --Deenoe 00:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK allsorts

I'll attend to the Wood merge and the debate on DYK soon. As you can see Haphar is disgruntled again, I seem to have inherited Srebrenica massacre and also the Belgaum fight between Karnataka and Maharashtra partisans. I didn't get much done yesterday.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 00:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Cool, Blnguyen's notoriety's rising again. -- Samir धर्म 01:19, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Can you look at User:BADMINton please? Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)


Ohh, Hi Samir Dharma! So you have received a request from Bnguiyen (I don't remember the spelling). Will you please tell me which of my edit summaries were offensive? And why is everyone threatening me with dire consequences? Do I not have the right to add something meaningful and useful? Please probe the matter MORE deeply. I know you people value friendship very much and that is precisely why three admins are having fun with a small fry like me. And are you going to sue me for a strange resemblance to your page? Oo...copyright infringement...Your page is older so I will HAVE TO change. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 09:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Plus, I am more appalled than amused at your calling my edits "unconstructive". Cite ONE such edit and I shall leave the Wikipedia for life. ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 09:10, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
And I'm shocked and chagrined. Stupefied and mortified. It's fabulous, stupendous, outrageous!! -- Samir धर्म 02:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Nico Bullwark

Hi Samir, here's another avatar of our bhadva friend. Sigh... -- Lost(talk) 10:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Marsh Stages Coeliac Disease Diagram

Diagram To Show Coeliac Disease

Hey Samir, the diagram won't be a problem at all. It will likely take about a week from now depending on when I get around to it. Its very unlikely to take more than that. If you come across any other diagrams of the disease please be sure to point them my way, as I've not heard of the disease first hand so I'll be basing it on other diagrams and my own textbooks if they make any mention of it. I'll keep you updated. Thanks WikipedianProlific(Talk) 12:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Your lucky, I got around to it today. There may be inaccuracies in it, if there are can you let me know as I am not entirley sure of the differences between some of the 'types' of the disease, so it may need some adjusting. I assumed type 0 is the standard jejunum epithial appearance. And then went from there. I've not placed it on the article page yet as I'm not sure where you'd want it to go. Seems best for you to place it. Anyway, as always if you have any more requests be sure to let me know, although I am fairly busy at the moment but I'll get around to them at some point. Thanks. WikipedianProlific(Talk) 14:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, yeah the changes are no problem. It makes much more sense now. I'll let you know when its done, though its unlikely to be before saturday evening I suspect as I'm quite busy. WikipedianProlific(Talk) 20:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi again samir, the diagram is now finished with the improvements. Please let me know what you think, and also if there are any blarring errors. I haven't placed it on the page as i'll let you have that honour, that way you can place it where you wish. You may need to click on the full size version to see the changes or you may need to clear your cache if your still seeing the old version. Thanks! WikipedianProlific(Talk) 11:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Biography Newsletter September 2006

The September 2006 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 00:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Go raibh maith agat!

Hi there Samir!

Thank you so much for supporting my RfA! It ended up passing and I'm rather humbled by the support (and a bit surprised that it was snowballed a day early!). Please let me know if I can help you out and I welcome any comments, questions, or advice you wish to share.


hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Eddie Tyger is now Nicole Hess

User:Eddie Tyger just appeared as User:Nicole Hess --BostonMA 14:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


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I have protected my page. I think that you were right. In case, you get more vandalism here, you may also protect. Regards. --Bhadani 03:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

FU for living people

When did this happen? So I have to get rid of stuff in Ryan Lochte etc? Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 06:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I wanted to upload a Marathi inscription's pic.I think its allowed then.BTW since I'm new to wiki,i dint know exactly what is meant by fair use?So according to that #1 I can use pics clicked of existing material if it is about non-living beings?mahawiki 06:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok,thanks.mahawiki 06:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

... for the barnstar. Much appreciated after a long day. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 03:54, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

...and for my DYK medal too. I have not added to the menagerie for a while now though, sad to say, but the biographies are doing ok :) -- ALoan (Talk) 04:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)



Thanks for the edits to enterogastric and gastrocolic reflex articles.

I've been using wikipedia for a year or so now, and decided that i'll start pitching in. I'm studying for USMLE currently, so have many reasons to visit wikipedia.

I can help out with the GI project page you have... not sure what I can do though. Let me know. ~Pallav

PS: I did my MBBS from delhi and took a hiatus with Masters in Medical Informatics from Columbia, NY. I work as a consultant with GE right now.. but gearing up to return to clinical medicine.

Study munchies

Some cookies to munch on while studying.

Hey Samir, thanks for your message. I thought this time I should bring you some munchies to get you through the next few days! Also, I wanted to thank you for your extremely generous comment on my RfA. Some of the comments have really stood out to me and yours was one of them. :) Good luck with your exams, though I'm sure you won't need any. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 09:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Re Barnstar

Thanks for the Barnstar. I'll try to contribute as much as possible for as long as possible since I am absolutely addicted to wikipedia now. It is also nice to be in the company of people with exceptional contributions, like yourself. And you don't have to be modest, I actually have read many of the well researched articles you've written. As interests I like many South Asia related topics, but by profession I'm a molecular biologist. So if you need any help/editing/opinion on any article just drop me a line anytime and I'll try to work on editing it. Rock on! --Antorjal 01:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


I loved the one about Dakota Fanning the most:) -- Lost(talk) 08:03, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I am just plain jealous that you've seen Sharon Stone.. Didn't I read somewhere that you have a big exam coming up? What are you doing on wiki? Go block yourself and study! - Aksi_great (talk) 14:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Crohn's Disease Activity Index article

Maybe one needs added (and linked to appropriate places)? I'd do it except that I don't have the sources on hand, nor am I a good enough writer [I'm lucky enough to be a wikignome here and to write in my journal], to do it (that and I've got symptoms on the upswing again... they're trying to bring my pred levels down.) Again, good luck on those tests! — CJewell (talk to me) 14:05, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


Once again for reverting vandalism to my user page. The misbehaving AOL vandal has been given an one hour long wikibreak. MER-C 14:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


You claimed that "it's being reported in all Canadian media as a 'shooting' not a 'shooting incident'." I then cited numerous examples of Canadian reports that describe this as a "shooting incident." (In other words, your statement was false.)

You then cited references to a "shooting." Well, of course there was a shooting, and of course this is being reported. I never denied that. The problem is that this term refers to the primary portion of the story (the gunman's rampage). In common usage, it does not refer to the suicide that followed. The ITN blurb doesn't present a full account of the events that occurred, so stating that the suspect died in the "shooting" implies that this was a shootout among multiple individuals.

I can't imagine why you object to the phrase "shooting incident," which generates approximately 500,000 Google hits (including dozens from Canadian sources pertaining to this exact story). —David Levy 22:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I object to unnecessary words. "Shooting" does refer to the suicide. The gunman shot people then himself; it's all part of how the word "shooting" is used in Canada. Your first web search picks up articles that, for the most part, talk about the "shooting" first (in the lead) then mention it as an incident. Hit #2 is titled "Politicians express sorrow over college shootings". Hit #3 is a letter to the editor. Hits #4 and #6 are Hit #1 updated (not a press document, but MUHC's website update), and Hit #5 is Hit #2 updated. For hit #7, "incident" is not contained in the text of the article (which only uses the term "shooting" in the text) but is only found the caption of the image. Searching google news (see Template talk: In the news for the URLs) finds "shooting" in more than 10 times more articles then "shooting incident". The banner headlines and lead articles of the Globe, Gazette, National Post and Star today all reference the "Montreal shooting" or "Dawson shooting" in the banner or the first paragraph of the text. None calls it the "Montreal shooting incident". A2 of the Star says "...the shooting, punctuated by the suicide of Gill, 25" NOT "the shooting incident, punctuated by the suicide of Gill..." You also quoted a Regina local newspaper story on a student group 2000 km away as a primary source, which hardly seems appropriate. I think that the term "shooting" is analagous to "shooting incident" and the word "incident" is superfluous -- Samir धर्म 22:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
1. Popular Canadian usage isn't the only relevant concern. People from all over the word are reading this, and it should be written in such a manner as to be properly interpreted by as many as possible. Are you suggesting that the term "shooting incident" is less understandable by Canadians than "shooting" is?
2. The reports that you cite, like our article, are detailed accounts of the events that occurred. Conversely, ITN contains a tiny blurb (without any background information or chronology), so stating that the suspect died in the "shooting" is ambiguous at best.
3. The phrase "shooting incident" generates approximately 500,000 Google hits—including dozens of reports pertaining to this exact story from such Canadian sources as CBC News, the Toronto Star, the Ottawa Citizen, the Montreal Gazette, the Vancouver Sun, the Globe and Mail, the National Post,, McGill University Health Center and others. To you, this might seem like more that what is necessary, but I don't understand why it's objectionable (especially given my explanation that it reduces the likelihood of confusion for some people). —David Levy 22:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
A "shooting" is a noun that is an incident. -- Samir धर्म 23:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
To some people, "shooting" is a noun that describes in instance in which someone fired bullets at one or more other people (or one in which two or more people fired at each other). "Shooting incident," conversely, describes both the shooting and its aftermath. —David Levy 23:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Calling it a "shooting incident" is redundant. -- Samir धर्म 23:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Then why have CBC News, the Toronto Star, the Ottawa Citizen, the Montreal Gazette, the Vancouver Sun, the Leader-Post, the Globe and Mail, the National Post,, McGill University Health Center and other Canadian sources used the exact phrase "shooting incident"? I'm not even including all of the Canadian sources that have used the term, let alone the non-Canadian ones.
The fact that "shooting" means one thing to you doesn't negate the fact that it means something else to others. Quite frankly, you're being rather selfish by declaring that only your perception matters (given the fact that the phrase "shooting incident" is no less understandable for anyone). —David Levy 23:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
A "shooting" is an incident where shooting takes place. It's being reported as the Dawson shooting twelve times more frequently than the Dawson shooting incident. The shooting encompassed the suicide, as the shooter shot himself. Here's a quote on how the noun is used from CNN: "Canada's worst mass shooting took place in Montreal when gunman Marc Lepine, 25, killed 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnic on December 6, 1989, before shooting himself." [1]. The "shooting" clearly encompasses the "killed 14 women" and the "shooting himself" -- Samir धर्म 23:23, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
You're still missing the point that the ITN entry is not a complete news report. You're citing full-length reports that contain all of the pertinent details, leaving no possible ambiguity.
When people with no prior knowledge read that two people were killed in a "shooting" (without any other information being provided), some will automatically assume that they were shot by other people. —David Levy 23:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
It's analagous to a banner headline in a newspaper. Every banner headline I've seen uses "shooting" not "shooting incident". It's really quite simple. Incident is redundant -- Samir धर्म 23:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
We actually eat this in the United States.
1. No, the ITN entry is not analogous to a newspaper headline, because it isn't immediately followed by specific details.
2. I've already cited a Canadian newspaper headline that contains the phrase "shooting incident" (after you falsely claimed that "it's being reported in all Canadian media as a 'shooting' not a 'shooting incident'").
3. Repeatedly stating your opinion (that the phrase is redundant) as fact does nothing to bolster your argument. —David Levy 23:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok if we just keep this on Template talk:In the news? The points are pretty much the same -- Samir धर्म 23:58, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. —David Levy 00:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

For patiently dealing with an equally stubborn editor, have some chitterlings. —David Levy 01:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk Page Comment

Hello; you seem like someone I can trust on this. I saw this comment on the talk page for Pope Benedict XVI Islam controversy and feel it ought to be removed because it is trolling. This user has been blocked for personal attacks previously, and I believe this would be a okay thing to do, but I do not want to be accused of removing something anti-Muslim just because I'm Muslim (perhaps I really do have an sub-conscious bias still). Anyway, your opinion on what to do with the matter would be appreciated. -- tariqabjotu 22:52, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

What is your problem? My comment is on point; it is not trolling. Talk pages are not trolling. Anti-muslim? See --- can't say anyhting negative about them. Now, here it is again:
Perhaps the article should provide a list of recent things moslums are angry about; this might add perspective to their obvious over-sensitivities to any negative comment and their uncany ability to take umbrage at nearly every self-perceived insult. Every such event is followed by screaming and ranting in the streets and burning flags and hanging effigies and calling for 'death to this' and 'jihad to that' and claiming there will we more suicide attacks and that everyone else on earth is wrong and..... Let us list everyhting they do not like so that we can provide disclaimers at the top of everyhting we say so that we don't draw the wrong cartoon about the profit Muckmud or claim their belief system might be flawed or whatever. Good golly, cannot the Pope (or any religious leader) provide his observations about islum without enciting yet another childish, global tantrum. What happened to civilised and intelligent discussion? Can we not criticise islum? Can we not note things and provide observations about buddhists and atheists or jews or Japanese or Eskimoes or African bushmen without somebody getting his shorts all in a knot? What a bunch of over-sensitive and insecure people. Man, they gotta lighten up! Let us list all those things in the article along with all the other recent tantrum-generating events. Are there any comments?~~``DocEss 23:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely agreed that it was trolling, and as the rants spilled over to my talk page and back to the article's talk page, I've blocked the user for disruption. I note that it's not his first block. Take care -- Samir धर्म 23:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. As a side note, I took care of another by the user you just blocked and one other incident. I'll just live with any accusations of bias that come my way. -- tariqabjotu 23:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Samir

  I award you the Daniel.Bryant Blue Star of Thanks for your kind words at my Editor review. However, most important to me was the constructive feedback you gave me regarding mainspace edits. I'll attempt to work on your insightful suggestion, and hopefully your prediction about a possible upcoming RfA comes true. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 03:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
By the way, I'm on the standby clerks list for WP:RFCU, and if one has to leave Wikipedia, I'm next in line to take over. Regarding the Wikiproject involving Australian football, I am the co-ordinator of WP:A-L with one other user, and although I am not a member of WP:AFL, I still do a lot of work for them, like the template for the 2006 AFL finals series article. DYK is one of my favourite parts of Wikipedia, and I have done a couple of template-runs (where I give the UpdatedDYK and UpdatedDYKnom templates to the users who did the respective things) for admins who couldn't be bothered or had to go half-way through the process. Unfortunately, until I'm a sysop, I can't do the whole process :( Cheers, and thanks again for your feedback, Daniel.Bryant 03:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Belated thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA. Consensus to promote was reached, and I am now an administrator. I'll be using the tools cautiously at first, and everyone should feel welcome to peer over my shoulder and make sure I'm not doing anything foolish. --RobthTalk 04:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


May I ask you what this [2] is supposed to mean? It makes me feel tlike you have something against Indian users. Badminton may have been a troll, but what makes him different from User:Ikonoblast? (formerly User:Holywarrior who I believe you had a run-in with before as well - well placed block on him). Sorry for saying you were on a witch-hunt.Bakaman Bakatalk 19:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

In short, Badminton is a troll. He was not blocked for ideological issues, but was blocked for contravening the blocking policy despite multiple warnings. I will question anyone that supports those actions -- Samir धर्म 22:42, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Re User-Dhartung

In response to your note on my talk page, User:Dhartung does not have my respect. I do very much consider it a kind of Wikipedia TROLLING when someone proposes an AfD for an article out of ignorance or bias. The true spirit of Wikipedia should be to contribute, not to destroy. A better Wikipedia person would have taken the time to enhance, improve, and update the article rather than irresponsibibly nominate it for deletion. An irresponsible AfD is NOT a way to gain the respect of other Wikipedia contributors. The way to gain the respect of others is to responsibly edit and improve Wikipedia articles, or simply suggest that others do so, which is something that Dhartung do not bother to do, or take the considerate time to do, before making an irresponsible AfD. Consequently he has my thumbs down. Janniejode 18:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Gus Black

You decline CSD A7 a while back. It's richly deserved. Please reconsider. - CrazyRussian talk/email 16:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Since Samir is on a wikibreak, I'll take the liberty of posting an answer here. May I suggest that you just use PROD or AfD if you still feel that the article should be deleted? Prod especially is usually quite painless. --After Midnight 0001 00:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm blamming this, it's a combination of A7 and G7 (since the author did in fact blank this article). Yanksox 01:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Sure. Looks good. Go A-Team! Which one of you guys is B.A. again? -- Samir धर्म 22:45, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


  On 18 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article hemosuccus pancreaticus, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thankyou Samir

Samir, thank you so much for the wonderful comment you made during my recent RfA. I am absolutely thrilled that my RfA passed with a final tally of 160/4/1. I feel completely humbled by the incredible support I received from so many fantastic editors and administrators. Thankyou Samir. :) I hope your study and exams are going well. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 18:02, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism On My UserPage

Hi Lostintherush, just check out the vandalism on my userpage by a User:Vgowda. Please block him. ---Tipu Hero 05:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I request the admin to take cognizance of this. Also if we compare this and this, I dont see how Tipu Hero doesnt deserve to be blocked too. I hope VGowda wasnt blocked just because Tipu happened to complain first. Also look at Tipu's contribs it seems quite clear that the id is most probably somebody's sock created merely to write what he did. Sarvagnya 17:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Looks like this has been dealt with -- Samir धर्म 22:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Good Luck for you Royal college exams

Do well :-) And you shall pass with flying colors!! EyeMD 08:11, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The Halo's RfA


Hi, I, and on behalf of Deenoe, wanted to bring you up to date with the discussion I had with him on our respective talk pages (See User talk:Lincher & User talk:Deenoe) on working and finding information on his early life. Please consider lending a hand as it will help the article achieve the GA status. I can also remark that the addition of a picture would greatly enhance the quality of the article (even a fair use one, with its FURationale, would do the job). Good luck in updating the article. Lincher 00:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

If you want more comments, just drop a line at my talk page. Cheers. Lincher 01:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Dust up

I accidentally blanked a page because of an edit conflict. I fixed it right away. There has been a disagreement about this page Camp Minsi, and some related pages. Sorry about the confusion. --evrik 03:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Leonine facies

Importance? Thoughts? Thanks, doc. - CrazyRussian talk/email 10:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, have you seen Samir is awesome and the discussion on WP:ANI about it? - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Review me

Hi - I request you to please visit and share your views at Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2. I need your advice and criticism, and I would be immensely grateful if you could spare a little time on this. Thank you, Rama's arrow 15:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Lefty's RfA thanks

  Hi, Samir, and thanks for supporting me in my recent request for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 70/4/4. I hope I can live up to your expectations, and if there's ever anything you need, you know where to find me! --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 00:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Color Page

wikipeida's background is white,so can you change its color? I am Amrykid ,Elite wikistudent and I approve this message.

Your elite teacher, BraniacOutcast, would know better than me -- Samir धर्म 01:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Samir :)

Thanks Samir for the encouragment and support on my talkpage. It means a lot to me, and it's thanks to people like you that I'm finding it so natural to continue editing. Thank you my friend :) Thε Halo Θ 09:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi dear Admin,

This is to bring to your notice the wiki-feud I've been having with User:Mahawiki for almost one month now. It started with the Belgaum page which went to mediation, warnings were handed out to both parties, and when Mahawiki's incivil ways continued, Admin:Bluyugen handed him a warning and then a block. Find that [3].

I do not want to turn the clock back and go through all those content disputes again. Infact, I dont want to present to you the details of any content dispute we've had. All I want to present to you is the brazen incivility and personal attacks being committed by User:Mahawiki either in the course of his content disputes or even simply just out of spite.

All the diffs(exhibiting his incivility and personal attacks) I provide below are from AFTER, I REPEAT, "AFTER". ADMIN BLUGYUEN INTERVENED, WARNED ALL OF US, AND HANDED MAHAWIKI A BLOCK.

Please find below dozens of instances of blatant incivility and personal attacks by User:Mahawiki either on me or on User:Dineshkannambadi and all Kannadigas in general. His remarks are in extremely bad taste and counterproductive resulting in undermining of the good faith efforts of the other editors to carry on editing their articles.

While I dont want to go into each and every diff and explain it, just to give you a sample of his incivility, he has made edits where, even if only in jest or sarcasm, he makes atrocious claims like, I am on a kill Mahawiki mission, that User:Dineshkannambadi is the Kannada (Bin) Laden(sic). In another edit, even if only for jest(which I certainly dont find amusing nor appreciate esp., when it comes from him), he has threatened to sue me. He has called us cultural TERRORISTS, losers, notorious, shameless etc., etc. He uses the word vandalism like one would use 'Hi' and 'Hello'.

Find all the above and much much much more in the diffs I've provided below. Whats worse is his antics are going unchecked because Admin:Blugyen who knows about our feud is on a wikibreak and Admin:Sundar whose intervention I've sought more than once, is busy with other things(I presume, in real life) - which ofcourse, I dont hold against either of them.

But wikipedia will be a poorer place if brazen incivility like this goes unchecked for weeks simply because many admins dont know about it or the ones who know are by force of circumstances, too busy to deal with it.

I request immediate and harsh action on Mahawiki.

Once again, let me remind everyone that in the links below, none of them pertain to any content disputes. I belive in dealing with the content disputes on the relevant talk pages and dont usually bring it out on user talk pages.

Infact, I have even not listed below, the atrocious claim he made a couple of days ago that I had deleted and later undeleted an article. Also not listed below is his blatant removal of {{fact}} tags I had added in a couple of articles without even clarifying or providing a citation for the claim which I had tagged. Also not listed below may be umpteen other instances of incivility and npa violations on his part that I might have missed.

All the diffs below deal purely and only with his brazen incivil comments and personal attacks not just on me, but on User:Dineshkannambadi and also highly respected historians like Mr. Suryanath Kamath et al(who have been cited in some articles by Dinesh) whom he has trashed and dismissed in the most uncivil manner possible.

Apart from this he also makes disparaging remarks on Karnataka and Karnataka politicians who he keeps claiming are oppressing and torturing Marathi speaking people in Belgaum. This is not a content dispute, this is plain nonsense and insanely belligerent language.

His incivility apart, he has made it a habit and a routine to go around all over wikipedia branding me and Dinesh as 'Kannadi' vandals bent on Kannadizing all articles we touch. Ask him if we have included any uncited material or if we has ever cited any references for his numerous claims or whether he has taken it up on the article talk page instead of on a random user talk page. His answer will be negative. And yet, that doesnt stop him from going around shouting that we have been vandalising articles!!

Anway, I dont want to veer this towards the 'content disputes' which is a whole different matter altogether. Content disputes can always be discussed and agreements reached. Let me present to you just his brazen incivility and personal attacks.

Here we go -

[4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40]

Sarvagnya 22:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

3RR Question

Hello, Samir. I'm back with a question for you. I reported a user on 3RR yesterday. The result of the admin decision was a block for 12 hours. When the block expired, but still within the 24 hour window, the user completed another revert to make #5 in < 24. Since then they have made 2 additional reverts but some of the original reverts rolled off the 24 hour clock. The first of these made it 4 in 24 and the second made it 5 in 24 again. What do I do now? Do I edit the old case on WP:AN3 or do I make a new case and if so, how do I deal with some of the edits rolling off the end of the cycle? Thanks --After Midnight 0001 01:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for your prompt response. I feel bad now that I didn't supply you with any diffs or anything. I was just posing it as a hypothetical, and was prepared to do the work for AN3, and then you figured it all out and researched it on your own.
  The Barnstar of Diligence
In recognition of you going above and beyond the call of duty and for your resourcefulness in doing so, I award you The Barnstar of Diligence. After Midnight 0001 01:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Samir. Can you please check out User:Zandvoort as a possible block evasion on this matter? It looks like you might not be online right now, so I'll also post this over on WP:AN/I. Thanks. --After Midnight 0001 02:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again. I'll start the RFCU, this will be my first one, but I think I can figure it out. My only question is that I'm not sure who to list as the puppeteer, Burneville was the one whose block was evaded, but I think the original reverts started with anaons and then Pflanzgarten. I think I'm going to go with Burneville as the other incarnations are old enough that they might not even be accessable any more due to password loss etc, but I will list them in the write-up. --After Midnight 0001 03:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Revise that, Pflanzgarten was blocked just 10 days ago, I'll use that as the puppeteer. --After Midnight 0001 03:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, per your advise, I submitted to WP:RFCU. It was deemed obvious. So, what now? Does this allow further blocking to take place based on block evasion? Should any other activity be taken, or should I just "keep an eye on things"? Thanks --After Midnight 0001 04:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Samir. Thanks for the note that you left on my page about blocking one of them. It looks like User:Zandvoort is now the "sock-du-jour". --After Midnight 0001 13:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it is unfortunate. Some of the changes that he seems to want have been incorporated into the article over the months, but it appears that this user is only interested in an all or nothing approach. It is a shame, because they all do seem to know quite a bit about the topic, but I'm sure that you have seen many more of these types of circumstances than I have over time. --After Midnight 0001 13:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


Oh, Thanks again Samir. Looks like I've managed to get myself angry, although I've refrained from an metaphors on wikipedia about deletion. And I've gone through the deletion log looking for prolific deletors again. Looks like did about 20000+ in two-three months. I've already rationed one ages ago. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 06:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


Would you please look at my proposal re 911tRtT? Thanks, &#151; Xiutwel (talk) 08:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi, this is to tell you that User:Dbachmann is an epitome of Racism and as such it is our dharam to boycott him. Just like we did to foriegn clothes in freedom struggle. We must boycott him. He called Indians "shi***le". So please, boycott him and send this message to everyone. - Gary Haiks 10:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi Samir. How is DYK being archived at the moment, by bot or manually? --Peta 23:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Yuk, I wish people had agreed to get rid of archiving when I suggested it last time the bot was broken.--Peta 02:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Heartiest Congratulations

Congratulations on passing the Royal College exams!! Well, maybe now you can focus on the nitty gritty of setting up a practice or joining an institution as tenure-track faculty, eh? I appreciate the excellent wiki stuff that you have contributed, awesome indeed :-) EyeMD 05:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

User: has vandalised the Binaca Geetmala lists, could you please taken proper admin steps to stop the vandal. Also, I am in the process of trying to manually revert the editings - if you know an automated process to revert prior to his vandalism, please let me know. Otherwise, just a single list Binaca_Geetmala_annual_list_1979 took me half an hour of figuring out what was going on.. and then to revert, meant lot of copy-pasting from revision history and what not.... this is taking too long for me... yelp! EyeMD 19:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Finally, I am done with the restoration of the pages and cross-linking. Took me two and a half hours! Well, I need few timbits and a double-double, and while you are at it, could you also get me some Wendy's chilli too, please!! This User: IP needs to be blocked though - he messed up so many pages!!! EyeMD 21:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations holmes! Btw, have you considered doing a year with Doctors Without Borders or somethin? Rama's arrow 04:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Btw, is it now Dr. Samir, I presume? Rama's arrow 04:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Any nice nurses in your hospital/college? Do they call you "Doctor" or "Samir?" (Wink) Rama's arrow 04:36, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah if/when I visit Canada, I might decide to break a leg somewhere convenient... I asked Dwaipayan the same question: just tryin' to verify an observation of Jerry Seinfeld: Women go after doctors the way men go after supermodels. Women want someone with knowledge of the body; men just want the body. Rama's arrow 04:43, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Congrats :) – Chacor 05:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks guys -- Samir धर्म 03:44, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations, Samir. That is truly awesome news and I'm thrilled for you! :) Sarah Ewart (Talk) 15:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I almost missed this due to my wikibreak!!! Congrats Doctor!! -- Lost(talk) 15:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. I wish you all the success in life! --Bhadani 11:12, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! Good luck, I will see you in Canada if I ever get sick over there. Hope to see you having an article on Wikipedia in a few years time. ;) --Terence Ong (T | C) 11:50, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Doctor Sahib.  ;) Nearly Headless Nick {L} 12:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from me too - very late - what does this do for you by the way. Well I survived last week - none of the experimentalists interrogated any of the mathematical or theoretical oriented posters because they were just filled with equations and technical jargon. So it worked out well. :) Perhaps somebody needs to block me ;). Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 02:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrats, Samir. I know it's very late, but nevertheless. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Heartiest Congratulations from me too! Sorry for the extreeemly delayed wishes, I've been quite busy with my exams (which are still going on *sob*). I'm sure I'd be no good as a doctor: The other day during my Bio practical while cutting the earthworm's skin for dissecting its reproductive system, I accidentally sliced the poor thing's testis in half! So here's to the good Doctor's steady hand! ;) Cheers --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 01:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Apparently it's not too late for more congratulations! - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Full-body scan

Thanks for helping on the Full-body scan. I fear I may have come off as beligerent at the beginning but it was never my intention to be combative. In fact, a kind of funny accident was my edit summary towards the start "feel free to read POV, but I'm removing it for now", was supposed to say readd, not read. Who'd have though one letter could make a comment vastly more condescending. Anyway, by your actions this is now one of the better articles on wikipedia, thanks. Vicarious 08:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Ban me, please.

I use Wikipedia a lot and love it. I'm completely against vandalism. I recently saw that I had received another warning for vandalism.

This is a school computer and the IP I'm listed under should be the IP of the school's network. Feel free to completely block it from editing any wiki. I use wikipedia for everything and I hate seeing it screwed up by a bunch of kids! 18:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Too Hot

Sorry for the late reply. That is really cool! It's funny listening to Alanis' later albums after hearings songs like "Too Hot" and "Walk Away"; I have her first two albums now (I had to resort to downloading them; apparently they're out of circulation) and they're complete guilty pleasures in a way. "My name is Alanis/I'm a white chick singer"...if only I'd been a teenager in Canada when this music was popular. :) Extraordinary Machine 22:24, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:96 logo.gif

Can you undelete Image:96 logo.gif? It is used on the page 84th Grey Cup, but there is some issue with images that has to due with leading or trailing spaces that I don't understand that causes the image not to show up. I think I fixed the issue now. Qutezuce 22:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Falun Gong Pages

There is a heated revert war on Falun Gong, Li Hongzhi, Falun Gong Teachings and Suppression of Falun Gong pages. Some editors have violated the 3RR. Editors on both sides do not seem to be able to come to an agreement, can you provide guidance or protect the page so they can talk again instead of reverting?--Kent8888 20:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The request for mediation seems like a better way to go. -- Samir धर्म 02:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

BadGut website

I saw that User:Sirprojects went and populated gastrointesinal articles with links to (Canadian Society Of Intestinal Research) (see contibutions). A quick look at the links shows that they are to the relevant specific topics at that site, e.g. and badgut seems to at least be reasonably full in its descriptions. So two questions that I think you might be better able to judge:

  1. The information whilst good, is without references (although to be fair, the webpages do offer the reader to contact the charity to be sent further information). So do they really "add infomation" to that already in the articles and merit being an external link ?
  2. I find Sirprojects' repeated descrption of "<link> Free information provided by a registered charity, the Canadian Society of Intestinal Research" awkward. I was tempted just to cut to "Canadian Society of Intestinal Research", but if this is a particular respected Canadian research funding/education body then perhaps some description of "worth" of the site should be made. Clearly as a UK GP I have never heard of "Canadian Society of Intestinal Research" nor have any idea how notable/important it might be... care to comment ? :-) Yours David Ruben Talk 22:38, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

2 Questions

Is your real name Samir if so are you bosnian.And what is Barnstar?Please reply on my user page.thanx Sinceraly,--Stlbabe 53 22:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

generic name: Natalizumab

please see my comment on the above article. DGG 23:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


So teach me the ways of the DYK, Samir. Do you think Eddie's Bar is DYK-worthy? Does it need to be longer? I have not had prior involvement in DYK. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:54, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Usman Farooq

You indef-blocked Usman Farooq (talkcontribspage movesblock userblock log) based on some circumstantial evidence, but U.F. denies being MaverickInUrFace (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log), and this is a plausible denial. I requested CheckUser but they declined (maybe I should have taken a shrubbery). What is your view on unblocking? The threatening post by MaverickInUrFace was pretty lame anyway, IMO. Guy 12:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Valarauka has looked into this in some detail and supports unblocking; CheckUser was declined. I will unblock, if that's all the same to you, as the connection seems somewhat tenuous and the user is showing reason rather than the usual hysteria. Guy 07:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


Hey Samir! Thanks for the gratz. Yeah, I realized I haven't talked to any of my fellow Indian admins :-p (probably because I'm not very active in Indian-related article editing on Wikipedia). Anyway, I just wanted to return your hello. Keep up the good admin work. =) --Nishkid64 21:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

info about a case

Hi Samir, i don't you remember me but you've blocked a user or his socks that are used to vandalise Galatasaray article. Now that user has blocked for sock usage, but he is really out of control editing with many IPs:) I started a case here and here for him. If you remember the case your comments will be appreciated. Cheers --Ugur Basak 21:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Samir you said that article may be semi-protected but he is doing the same thing in many articles and he has not bored yet since May 2006. For now, blocking and reverting seem to be the best solution. --Ugur Basak 11:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

80px Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed with a tally of 91/1/4. I can't express how much it means to me to become an administrator. I'll work even more and harder to become useful for the community. If you need a helping hand, don't hesitate to contact me. NCurse work 15:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

U of T

Oh yeah. It was great. My frosh week was awesome and it really helped me to meet people and get to know the campus. The only problem that I have is that Mr. Kingwell ruined Philosophy for me. I loved the course in high school, but now I despise it, and I'm thinking of switching. Don't get me wrong. He is a great lecturer, but the course material is just not for me —we're now studying Republic by Plato. Orane (talkcont.) 15:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


Mind explaining that last paragraph, then? --Calton | Talk 04:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Many thanks for the Barnstar (blush). - Lucky 6.9 05:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ophthalmology announcement

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ophthalmology is officially up! Gives me some space to think (?out of the box), and discuss, not getting drowned in a cacophony of distracting requests on WP:CLINMED. You are hereby officially invited ;-) - to use the same for vision and eye care!! I need a suggestion for appropriate redirect to the long winding name. EyeMD 11:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Reg my article 3 Ds of drinking

Hi Samir,

I wrote this article 'Three Ds of drinking' #REDIRECT 3Ds but it was deleted by you. I have discussed this with fellow people who drink and they said this was true. Can you pls correct it and update if you would like to. The article was as follows

The three Ds of Drinking namely Diet, Dilution and Duration are considered to be a informal thumbrule for drinking.

Diet It is always advisable to drink after you have had your meal. But if you want to get high quickly, you can drink without having a meal.

Duration Duration is the time for which one drinks. It is common sense that if you spread your drinking time for quite a while, you can enjoy it and also drink more.

Dilution Dilution goes hand in hand with Duration. If you want to drink more and also enjoy it, start with a mild (diluted) peg and then graduadly increase the concentration.

Thanks, Senthil

  • Hi Senthil, a few things. Where are the 3D's from? What are the sources for it? What is the purpose of the article? -- Samir धर्म 04:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

RfB With A Smile :)


Encyclopedia Dramatica


Just wondering why on earth is it not possible to have an article on Encyclopedia Dramatica? I've discovered Encyclopedia Dramatica and Wikipedia recently, and think they are both great! But I can't find an answer anywhere. Since you apparently hold the power over it being deleted, or whatever the deal is, perhaps you can clue me in? Encyclopedia Dramatica is a pretty weird site, and looked here on Wikipedia to get some genral information on it (like I do for just about everything), but its blocked? Why? I don't understand

Dhiren Barot

What shall we propose for DYK from my newest article? - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Kelly Ellard

Since you've reverted the article so that it includes Reena's ethnicity I expect that you'll provide a citation on why that's important to the case. Not only that you need to word it so that the crime doesn't come across as a hate crime, or that Ellard was a racist. Do this promptly or I will revert it again. Fighting for Justice 21:51, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

"Do this promptly or I will revert it again"? Be advised that if you revert this consensus RfC then I will block you. Consider that to be a final warning. -- Samir धर्म 21:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
A relevant removed response: [41] -- Samir धर्म 13:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


hi samir, after reading one of your article and noticed that you're specialised in the digestive system, am taking this liberty to ask you a question which's bothering me for years, Is Oesophagitis curable? i have been diagnosed with that particular disease in 1982, and i have taking antacid since then, in the past i used to take some french medicines, Phosphalugel, Malox, but nowadays i take Gaviscon liquid, it does relieve symptoms but the heartburn and pain keeps coming back, prior to 1982 i used to enjoy eating chillies and hot & spicy food, something that i cannot do anymore, everytime i take the risk of eating hot food the pain gets worse. i look forward to read your answer on this issue faithfully yours. mustapha

delete/protect old username

Hi, Samir! You don't recognize me, but I was BaseballBaby in my past Wiki-life. I took the plunge and asked for a new username because of anonymity concerns. Could you, as an admin, delete and protect User:BaseballBaby and User:Baseball Baby? I created the latter account a couple of months after I registered the first to prevent impersonation – I remember seeing a suggestion somewhere to do so and it seemed prudent, so I did. If you need me to verify it by logging in as the latter, let me know and I will.

I love the BNL anecdote on your userpage! You just know Ed has used that in an ad lib somewhere, but at least you haven't been immortalized like the old lady wanting directions to the Bryant Street Theater. :-) I'm really, really bummed that they're not touring close enough to me this fall – I've seen them four times – but I have lots of buddies on who will send photos and phone love. (Yeah, I'm one of those BNL fans. :-D) I'm not digging BLAM, though – Rolling Stone called it "Dad rock," which had to hurt the guys, but I can't disagree too much with the label. Maybe the album will grow on me... I didn't like Automatic for the People either at first and now I love it, but I hope BNL's next album rocks instead of snoozes.

My husband and I were injured in an MVA a few weeks ago and both of us have been in outpatient PT (love cervical traction & massage – I wish I could keep doing it!), but I should be back regularly in another week or so. Thanks very much for your help! KrakatoaKatie 20:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi again - I have another request that I should have made at the same time. I moved my old talk page to my new one as I was instructed, and I haven't logged on since I made the change. Tonight when I got here, I found that an anon IP editor recreated my old talk page with old content from my old _user_ page. I blanked it again tonight, but can you delete User talk:BaseballBaby and User talk:Baseball Baby when you get a chance? I can't believe I forgot to mention my talk pages (this is why I don't work on the floor while taking muscle relaxants!) but what troubles me more is that someone may actually try to impersonate me. I also noticed that User:BaseballBaby is _not_ protected from recreation, and given this slightly unsettling development I think it and the talk pages should all be protected from future recreation, in the manner in which I've seen other user pages and articles protected from recreation. If you can't do that, let me know and I'll scour around for a bureaucrat. Thanks again - KrakatoaKatie 08:24, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Your unwarranted remark

Here's one for the One-who-cannot-be-trolled! — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 15:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey user, your out-of-place remark [42] is in poor taste and in bad faith. Do you know Malayalam and the meaning of the word to guess that it is obscene? Or did you rely on the opinion of two users who looked at once credit-worthy because they cried foul on somebody's user name? If that is the case, you are relying on somebody who in turn relies on ignorance ("I didn't know the other meanings for it"). I can let you know that the two users concerned have plainly refused to look up the word in a local language dictionary and never denied the fact that it is a proper name among the scheduled castes of Kerala. Ignorance, lack of receptiveness, élitism and disdain for the peripheral lives- you have been party to them. And one user who googled the word in question and found that it meant a very loose cunt in some Icelandic language epitomises the wisdom of your ilk. Kundan After Sundown 18:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey troll. Here's elitism for you: I don't give any credence to anything you have to say. Go away and troll elsewhere. I suggest LiveJournal -- Samir धर्म 23:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I have reported your personal attack here.[43] Kundan After Sundown 04:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Good for you. Happy to see that it too was removed. -- Samir धर्म 05:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
FYI, this was the trolling that started it: [44] Highly inappropriate, especially on an RfA. Also, accusing me of bad faith in dealing with you, when you talk about cooking the goose on a unanimous RfA? Really think that's appropriate? Add to that these niceties: "Who the hell is this guy? Haven't heard of such a celebrity as yet. I am fairly familiar with the mass media in Kerala. The pathetically written article looks like a sexed up C.V. and looks pretty trashy at places." (which is a blatant policy violation of WP:BLP and would warrant a block in and of itself) andCan you understand English? ... This would mean to anybody who can read and understand English... Be aware that I'm fully willing to take administrative action should your trolling continue. -- Samir धर्म 05:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
You are bending policies and guidelines to suit your purpose. And you have taken my comments out of their contexts (where they were never thought inappropriate, until you unearthed them for your purpose) to chide me and brandish your power to ban. Granted that my comment on the RfA page was inappropriate, does that give you any right to pass disparaging comments on me and call me a troll and ask me to quit? Your expression of willingness "to take administrative action" is flagrant usurpation of the trust bestowed on you by the community. Kundan After Sundown 06:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
No one is bending policy. Your edits speak for themselves. Be advised that if you continue with tendentious edits, you will be blocked under WP:BP. Consider the same to be a final warning -- Samir धर्म 06:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I second Samir's warning. You are undoubtedly trolling and continuing to do so you will be blocked. --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 06:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
You resort to personal attack and you call me names. Even if you are true in your accusations against you, your wrong stands above mine. You are an administrator and you know the WP policies and you trample them down and assume that you come out clean and warn me about blocking. Sounds like a great joke. It would be a disgrace on Wikipedia if administrative abuse is allowed to continue in this vein. You can block to your heart's content, if that will hep to wash out the ignominy of your blatant abuse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kundan After Sundown (talkcontribs)
You're a funny guy. I suggest a career in comedy. -- Samir धर्म 16:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Samir. I do do not think you are dealing (as an admin) with this situation in the best possible way. You have a right to feel that user:Kundan After Sundown’s remarks at the RFA are inappropriate. But there was no need for name calling. WP:NPA says clearly that "There is a subtle difference between "You are a troll" and "You are acting like a troll", but "You seem to be making statements to provoke people" is even better, as it means the same without descending to name-calling. ". Isn't it our policy to "comment on comment ; not on user"? Later you quoted a few remarks by user:Kundan After Sundown to support your claim that user:Kundan After Sundown is a troll. I think, it would have been better if you had done this earlier ( rather than doing it after it lead to a conflict). Are you sure that those remarks you quoted are violation of WP:BLP , since they are comments in the talk page and not edits in any article. (They are inappropriate, of course) Is it proper to threaten to take administrative action against someone with whom (and while) you are engaged in a conflict? If you feel administrative action is necessary, give proper (and specific) warning in the talk page of the user. It is always better to use warning templates, in its proper sequence and citing the specific reasons. You first called this user a troll, then asked him to leave wikipedia and refused to discuss and then cited reasons for you action. This RFA gave me a chance to look at the edits of User:Deepujoseph . In contrast, I see that Deepu has shown great restraint and strict adherence to policies even when he was personally attacked. As an administrator, the community expects you to set models for dealing with conflict and difficult users. Please do not create an impression of administrative abuse.(These comments are slightly modified version of my earlier comments. see the page history)Clt13 09:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I would like to quote this from WP:DFTT.

  • Administrators are not empowered to block usernames for "trolling".
  • When you try to decide if someone is a troll, strive to assume they are not. Explain errors politely and reasonably; point them towards policies, the manual of style and relevant past discussions. Don't conclude they are a troll until they have shown complete inability or unwillingness to listen to reason or to moderate their position based upon the input of others. Even in that case, it is likely better to remain silent and let others conclude the obvious instead of calling someone a troll and creating even more mayhem.

and this from WP:BNTV

  • Do not insult the vandals. Most vandals are either newbies who don't know any better, or true vandals and trolls. Getting angry and insulting, deriding them, or verbally assaulting them will either alienate potentially useful future users if the former, or play right into their wishes if the latter."

Clt13 10:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

    • What a wonderful speech! I'm well aware of policy, thanks. May I add that supporting trolls is not something I would suggest -- Samir धर्म 16:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, you have to demonstrate that you are aware of policies; what you can do and what you cannot. It seems you have nothing else to say other than this claim and this action [[45]]Clt13 11:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
        • What? Why are you sticking up for trolling? -- Samir धर्म 23:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for landing here. I just wanted to add in response to comments by Clt13 that some time(s) it would be in the interest of wikipedia, in the longer run, to ignore all rules, and save the Project's resources from meaningless discussion and the instruction creep. --Bhadani 15:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
  • You know how policies are adopted in wikipedia. ( after much thought, considering many possible abuses and based on consensus) If you are ignoring a guidline, you have to admit it first and justify it. We have a very clear policy regarding how to deal with trolls, vandals, impolite users, etc. You need to ignore this rule, only if someone is making use of the loop holes in the policies. In this case there was no need for it. When you talk to some one ( even to a vandal) as if you are talking on behalf of wikipedia, you have to adhere to wikipedia policies. ( That is why these policies/ guidelines have been adopted). What I quoted shows that, in this case, the action of this admin, is against our policies. My intervention was to clarify this; not to propmote trolling. If my action was promoting trolling, you can direct that criticism acgainst our policies as well. Clt13 11:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I hope that was an impromptu speech by Clt13. You need to check the history of this user and the articles that he has created only for disruption. He chose that username only for trolling. End of the matter. — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 15:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
      • I respect you right to have an opinion. But there is no voting going on here. It will be helpful if you say something related to the specific questions I have raised . Clt13 11:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
        • Why are you sticking up for trolling? Putting a question on Deepu's RfA about this matter was over the top. You've said your piece, now don't feed the trolls yourself by continuing to back them up -- Samir धर्म 23:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
          • Finally, to Clt13, if someone trolls an RfA by mocking the good faith contributions of an excellent contributor, they have what's coming to them. If they then scoff at being treated the same way, supporting the troll and clamoring they've been wronged as a result is tantamount to supporting trolling. I don't suggest that you do it -- Samir धर्म 00:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

That clarifies it. You treated this user the same way. I saw no difference. I was not discussing the action of that user. I found you ( an admin ) no different from that user. My ponit was about the way you reacted. Just one more thing. This is a very personal opinion of an ordinary user (who , when offended, cannot threaten with blocks and bans, who has no buddies among admins to vouch for ): The damage that vandals and trolls can cause is limited to a few articles. Admins can destroy wikipedia by showing scant respect towards policies.Clt13 04:08, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh get off your high horse. You are writing here to support a troll. That is what is destroying wikipedia, but you don't seem to get it. This matter is closed and I don't want to hear your preaching any further. If you don't like it, file an WP:RfC and see who supports your opinion -- Samir धर्म 04:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Removed edit: [46]. -- Samir धर्म 05:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: RfA

Here's another offer. Don't it feel good to be popular? -- Samir धर्म 00:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... even though my time is being freed up, I'm still going to wait for my semi-wikibreak to conclude. However, that makes you, CrazyRussian, Blnguyen, Aguerriero, Chacor, Yanksox (offered in August), and possibly Kingboyk (offered in August but suggested I wait until six months after RfA 2). Even if all of you don't go through with your co-nominations, I am quite honored so many offers have been made at all. -- tariqabjotu 02:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Vitamin U

Hey there... Do you really believe that the ulcers symptomatic of UC are not benifited from Vitamin U (methylmethioninesulfonium chloride, MMSC)?

Studies show that Vitamin U helps to prevents and can revert ulcer damage in gastric tissues.

The cause of UC may be debated (is it autoimmune, etc); but the symptoms can be significantly lessened by MMSC.

Please double check these links, or search a bit more on PubMed about MMSC and UC:

Quoted: "Role of sulphydryl-containing agents in the management of recurrent attacks of ulcerative colitis. A new approach."

Quote: "This double-blind randomised study investigated the role of sulphydryl-containing agents in the management of recurrent attacks of ulcerative colitis. ... These results demonstrate that sulphydryl-containing agents play a key role in the treatment of and protection against ulcerative colitis."

Role of sulphydryl-containing agents in the management of recurrent attacks of ulcerative colitis. A new approach:

Reply on Talk:Ulcerative colitis#MMSC -- Samir धर्म 16:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Vishnu Bhagwat

I have nominated the page for DYK.Can you please look at it and suggest improvements to make it to DYK. Shyamsunder 80:25, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Vishnu Bhagwat

The article was an excellent read. Looks like Aksi great used his magic DYK touch to add to it. Congratulations on the DYK -- Samir धर्म 01:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for congratulations .It will motivate to create more such pages . Shyamsunder 14:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

"removing sophomoric commentary"

Kind of insulting to sophomores, no? Fan-1967 05:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Would you qualify this as sophomoric? Looks more like a twelve-year-old to me. Seems it's the only insult word the kid knows. Fan-1967 05:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hey Samir, thanks for your birthday wishes! --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 13:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for Help!

Hi Samir,

I’m sending this message out to about 4-5 people I’ve worked with here on Wikipedia. Its not a blind carbon copy to 1000 people. Sorry its only partially wiki-related...

Basically as you probably know I make a lot of diagrams for use on Wikipedia in my spare time while studying a Biochemistry BSc (hons) degree at the University of Sussex in the UK. Next year (in my final year) I’m planning on starting up a medical graphics company. Its been suggested to me more than once that some of my diagrams are as good as, if not better than those presently in research papers and text books, so it seems like a good logical progression (and more so something I enjoy!) to start up a company producing them.

But without a reputation, and as a nameless student work will be stagnant or non-existent. So I’m desperately trying to make a small name for myself and to build a credible reputation as both a scientist and artist. So to cut to the chase what I’m messaging people about is just to say please please please, if you or any of your colleagues are publishing research articles/text books etc. and need bespoke diagrams please get them in touch, I would be forever grateful! I’m very very happy to do the jobs for free as I enjoy them anyway and the exposure would help me no end! They have nothing to lose, if they don’t like what I produce its not like they paid for it, and are under no obligation to use it. I can’t stress how helpful a diagram in a published work would be for me. I do have a portfolio of generally better work than the pics here on Wikipedia, but examples to show colleagues are those such as:


Anyway, as always if you need any diagrams done here on Wikipedia, I’m an email away! If you do by any chance know of anyone seeking a scientist/artist then please be sure to get them onto me! (My email is nick-daines<at> Thanks!

WikipedianProlific(Talk) 15:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


I believe the decision to delete this article was made in error, so I have asked for a deletion review. Since you were involved in the AfD on this, I wanted to inform you so that you might weigh in. PT (s-s-s-s) 17:31, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Post Election Selection Trauma Deletion

I was wondering if you could elaborate on you decision to delete this article. While I agree this concept is not the most significant. However I have been studying the concept of consensus as it is understood both within WP and in other contexts. It would seem to me that consensus has not been reached if dissenting points of view have not been adequately addressed. Based on the deletion policies here, unless the article violates one of the big three then the arguments to keep an article have far greater weight than those for delete. I do not feel that there was consensus in this AfD, the keep arguments were not adequately addressed by those who wished to delete the article. Thank you for your response. Ratherhaveaheart 19:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ratherhaveaheart. I saw consensus on the AfD (certainly was majority), and specifically, did not see any evidence that there was substantial coverage in media and other sources. GabrielF commented on it not being an academic term, to which I add that it's not a DSM-IV diagnosis or contained in PubMed; this has not been disputed. As such, notability of the term is defined by sources that reference it, of which, the argument raised was that they were insufficient to upgrade it beyond what is commonly considered as a neologism (an argument that was not substantially refuted). Hope this explains things; you are, of course, more than welcome to call for a deletion review if it does not -- Samir धर्म 00:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Your attention needed

See this Raul654 01:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


Yum, thanks Samir! :) I think I'm going to have to make a formal complaint with your Australian counterparts because you really are making them look bad! I hope everything is going well with you, too. Nice to hear from you. :) Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 01:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and a question

Thanks for the welcome and tips. A question: the difficulty in creating references for medical articles, or any other article, is very important. Although the ability to create PubMed URLs using Wikipedia:Citing_sources/example_style#Medical_journal_abstracts helps, Wikipedia:Footnotes is very tedious. Are there plans for improvements such as described in Wikipedia:Footnote2? - Thanks Badgettrg 03:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Cory Philpot

FYI, I restored the above article. Canadian Football League record holder for touchdowns, although I see why you speedied it given how stubby it was before. It's still quite stubby. Hope you don't mind -- Samir धर्म 05:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

It's larger now than the sub-stub previously deleted. Can sources be added to verify the achievements? (aeropagitica) 05:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Done (with difficulty... wish I knew more about Canadian football)! Take care -- Samir धर्म 05:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Great job, well done! Have a good day yourself! (aeropagitica) 05:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias

Hey Samir, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hey Samir,

I just wanted to thank you for your support in my recent request for adminship, which passed unanimously with a final tally of 38/0/0. I appreciate your trust, and will do my best to uphold it. Don't hesitate to let me know if you ever need anything. — TKD::Talk 05:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Samir!

  Hello Samir! Thank you for comments and wishes on my RfA. I'm so sorry for the headaches it has caused you. I am humbled and honoured by your confidence, and hope to live up to it. I'm still exploring the new tools, so feel free to tell me of any mistakes. Thanks again; and here's wishing you and your loved onces a great Diwali!--thunderboltz(Deepu) 07:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Diwali!

Hello Samir (The Scope),
I wish you a very happy Diwali! May you enjoy yourself on this day commemorating good over evil. Cheers! --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 12:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Happy Diwali (or Deepavali as we call it here in Singapore)! Hope you enjoy your weekend holidays. What do you do in Canada to celebrate Diwali. Let the good overcome the evil. If you are in my country, you will see a very colourful lightup at Little India. --Terence Ong (T | C) 13:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The lighted path

I wish you All The Best on the ocasion of the Indian festival of light, Diwali. I am sure that the light of hope, confidence, and all positive attributes shall always remain inside you – lighting your path and guiding you to attain higher and higher levels of excellence in all your endevours! All the best! --Bhadani 16:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Diwali!

I wish you and your family a happy "Festival of Lights"! Nishkid64 17:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, what they said. Happy Diwali to you and yours! -- tariqabjotu 22:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Happy Diwali to you but especially your nurses! Rama's arrow 22:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi!! A belated happy Diwali!--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Best wishes celebrating good triumph over evil! GizzaChat © 23:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


                Samir, thank you so much for your support for my RfA. I passed with a vote tally of 61/0/1. I am honored that the consensus was to allow me the added privilege of the admin mop. I appreciate your support on my RFA! --plange 23:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)  

Thank you

Thank you so much for the barn star! I am very honored. --BostonMA talk 12:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


Hi Samir. Thanks a lot for co-nominating me. It is a relief to see the RfA end "peacefully". Wish you a belated Happy Diwali too. - Aksi_great (talk) 04:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and Happy Diwali

Thanks, Samir for intervening in Alex Machacek.

And SHUBH DEEPAWALI to you !!!! And EID MUBARAK as well !!!!

--NRS | T/M\B 05:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Eid mubarak! --Striver 05:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much Samir. Eid mubarak for you as well. --Aminz 08:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

PUD and H. Pylori

Hi Samir - Thanks for your comments about the timeline. You did make the critical error of admitting you know something about this stuff. :) I'm writing a more detailed history of PUD and H. pylori for my dissertation, which I hope to add here once it's finished. I had a question, which perhaps you can answer. (I asked the Reference Desk, but didn't get a great answer.) Palmer's study in 1954 didn't find H. pylori in the stomach because he failed to use the silver staining technique (or so I'm told). I would like to know two things. (1) Why exactly does H. pylori only show up clearly using this technique? (At the RD I got the generic "somethings take up different stains" answer, which I understand.) (2) Would not using this technique represent a serious error by Palmer? (I.e. Were there lots of bacteria which only showed up using this technique that were known about in the 50s? Did everyone use this technique when doing histological studies in the 50s? etc.) No problem if you don't have time to give me a detailed answer, we're all busy. Thanks again for all your help! --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 06:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Samir - Great! Thanks for all the details. I really appreciate it, as I'll be talking about this case in Vancouver next week (the philosophy of science association meeting). --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 19:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Thanks... hope you had a nice Diwali. Eid-Mubarak! It is today, and celebrated with gusto here in Delhi. I hope to get some more DYKs for WP:Eye, with the excellent support of AED. I see you are going great guns with lots of stuff. Cheers! EyeMD T|C 20:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

University of Northern Colorado Moves

Samir, I've added context for the below moves. Thanks. Gdutmers 21:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I've moved these to User:Gdutmers/West Campus Facilities and User:Gdutmers/Central Campus Facilities until you've completed them. Could you add a little bit of context at the top of the article (like, This is a list of the facilities at the West Campus of ....). Let me know when this is done and I will move back into the main articlespace. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 21:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from ""

Hi Gdutmers. Do you think the lists would work better as separate articles or as part of the main article? Personally I think main article, but we'll go with what you think is more appropriate -- Samir धर्म 21:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Samir. I hope I've figured out how to communicate with you using proper Wikietiquette! :-) I assume that the person who added the lists made them separate articles so as to reduce the amount of scrolling necessary to read the main article. I agree with you that if the lists are included at all, they should be part of the main article rather than separate articles. I'm trying to decide if they are even necessary. I'm not sure that the names of buildings really have much usefulness to readers of the article unless they are attending or did attend the university. What do you think? Gdutmers 19:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

And best to you and your family -- Samir धर्म 05:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; all is quite well in fact. -- tariqabjotu 22:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the speed removal request deletion on Prescription cough syrup.


I think Purple Stuff is the best, personally..let's talk on the talk:Purple drank page to figure it out.

Cnota 22:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

re:Happy Birthday

Hey Samir! Thanks for the birthday note, it's makes me feel really good that so many users care about my birthday like they did and I thank you so very much for you're kind words. :) semper fiMoe 00:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Ryan Sugden

I wonder if you could elaborate on your reasoning for closing the above AFD as delete. Whilst I understand it is not a vote per se, I count 10 deletes and 10 keeps, plus the article meets the standard for sportspeople at WP:BIO, which makes a good case for there being no consensus. Catchpole 09:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Just saw this posted to your page and have looked over the AFD, and I'd concur that it should've been no consensus. – Chacor 10:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Happy to elaborate... but please bring up a DRV as this was a difficult call but a clear delete based on the arguments. In my opinion, the argument raised that he was a trainee at Oldham (where he started 5 times in 4 years) and all of his other starts were in semi-professional leagues was not refuted and was backed by the soccerbase link. This is the strongest argument in the AfD, as it is the only one that attempts to define notability per WP:BIO. I'm swayed by arguments on notability as opposed to determining notability based on !vote counts on AfD's. Hope this explains things -- Samir धर्म 11:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. I just noticed that the article has been re-created anyway - see Ryan Sugden. I have to go now, I'll decide if it's worth DRV later tonight. Catchpole 11:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)



When I started my second editor review, I had no idea how greatly helpful it would be to me. Here are people from across the world who I've never met or laid eyes upon, taking their personal time to think about me and offer me valuable criticism and advice. And the stuff I've learnt is more helpful in real life than just on Wikipedia. This is an experiment I will never forget. I thank you most sincerely for your kindness, for helping me be a better person. I am very much in your debt. Rama's arrow 15:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


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