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Perry Mason

You made a mistake. Obviously, you haven't watched the series or you would know otherwise. Put the comment back, now, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.170.79 (talk) 02:37, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

The comment consists of your personal views and analysis neither of which are acceptable for Wikipedia content. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the notification and upgrade of rights. HeadlightMorning (talk)

...and thank you for the content work!--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Speaking of appropriate

You know what would be appropriate? You not simply reverting and instead actually discussing the issue on the talk page. Deleting this useless article is entirely uncontroversial and standard procedure for non-notable musicians.

Please stop vandalizing the efforts of other editors or you may be blocked without further warning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.100.8 (talk • contribs) 00:35, 2 October 2012‎ (UTC)

Really? Good luck with that with having me blocked for removing a PROD, which is within the remit of any editor if they disagree with the rationale for deletion. Given my admin activity at WP:CSD I'm well aware of what is the "standard procedure" for deletions. You may also wish to review WP:NOTVAND while you're brushing up on WP:PROD. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

• You did't "remove" it as is allowed but instead reverted. Big difference. No one appreciates your kind of non-sense response. You may wish to brush up on WP:NPA and WP:CIV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.100.8 (talk) 01:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Could you point me to the personal attack in my response? You accused me of vandalism and threatened a block for the routine removal of a PROD - there is no incivility in pointing out the fallacy in your accusations. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

• Here. You may be mis-reading this on purpose. Informing you that you can be blocked is not threatening to block. Please stop trying to generate controversy and stick to discussing good-faith edits. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.100.8 (talk) 01:14, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

But I can't be blocked for hitting undo to remove a PROD and leaving an edit summary explaining why I'm removing it and pointing to AfD. It's not vandalism. I won't be blocked for it. If you want to pursue deletion, it's AfD or bust. If you somehow find that information offensive or consider it some sort of personal attack that another editor disagreed with your proposed deletion then I'm fairly certain Wikipedia is not the place for you. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:21, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

• Evidently you have difficulty with comprehension. I'm sure you can imagine where you might store your snide comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.100.8 (talk) 01:23, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Am I being punked? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

• No. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.100.8 (talk) 01:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I've left the IP two notes (both deleted, which is good as that means he read them) on both how his edits look like trolls here, and on signing his posts. I then noticed that Tide rolls also warned him about trollish behavior which was deleted before my post, so I see it is a common opinion. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 01:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Dennis. I'm not overly concerned, especially after reviewing the IPs edit history (and article feedback choices). Sleep well so you can wake up refreshed and go do that voodoo that you do so well. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:01, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh well, I see Tide rolls blocked them for three months, which I think is entirely appropriate. I actually tried to explain to them politely, but in the end, we each must accept the consequences for our actions. And yes, these old bones are off to bed. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 02:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll bet a dollar against a doughnut I'm older'n Dennis; whatever, he deserves the rest period for all the work he does. Tiderolls 02:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Ha, I quite imagine Dennis as the Martha Stewart of adminship. After only three hours of rest he's back and manages to do it better than the rest of us. Cheers for your help as well. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:15, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

No worries, JP. Passer une bonne soirée. Tiderolls 02:20, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The Martha Steward of adminship? Is that A Good Thing™? I appreciate the votes of confidence, although I do try to get more than three hours sleep when I can. And I'm 47, which is a senior citizen by Wikipedia standards. I'm shocked my fellow Wikipedians haven't tried to give me my gold watch and send me on my way. :) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 13:16, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I won't mention numbers, but when I was born there were only 48 states. :^\ Tiderolls 14:43, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Futuro Futuro company - I didn't even FINISH writing the article! Wait a little?

What's up with the drive-by shooting? I didn't even finish writing the article & citing the sources. 1927metropolis (talk) 19:16, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The article consisted of a single line and remained that way for hours until it was tagged for deletion by another editor as there was no significance asserted. Would you like me to email you the content so that you can work on the article in your userspace at your leisure before moving it to main space? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:25, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, please. It would save me the trouble of re-typing everything. Thank you! 1927metropolis (talk) 19:28, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Happy to, but could you please enable your email? Just click the 'my preferences' tab, scroll down and click 'Enable e-mail from other users'. You can disable it again once I send the email if you don't want other editors to be able to email you.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Wait, it looks like you have a much more complete version already available in your sandbox. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Looks like there is a draft copy already here: User:1927metropolis/sandbox, moved by an admin a few weeks ago. Don't know if it differs from the deleted copy. The Interior (Talk) 19:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

We just edit conflicted as I was pointing out the same thing! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Great minds think alike, Ponyo. The Interior (Talk) 23:36, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

(ec - pointing out much of the same as above) Just a drive-by comment, that from what I see in Futuro Futuro company, the deleted article appears to be a trimmed down version of what was previously deleted at Futuro Futuro, which was also created by the same user - and most of the material from both versions already appear to be in the page history of User:1927metropolis/sandbox. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to fix the article, taking all the editors' suggestions into account. 1927metropolis (talk) 21:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

BTW, once I clean up the version that's in the sandbox (should be within the next couple of days), would anybody mind proofreading it & pointing out any issues with it? I'm copying things from companies like Miele, Franke, etc., but it seems like there's a lot of "sensitive" topics, and I would rather have an experienced Wikipedian proof my content before it's moved from sandbox into articlespace. Is there a formal procedure to request a review, or do I just ask the person/s who made edits or deletions? 1927metropolis (talk) 21:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I can take a look, I'm sure any of the editors here would do the same. One major thing I'm seeing right now is a lack of sources. Here's our guide to what makes a good source: WP:RS. You really need to write the article from the sources, the other way around (e.g. write the article, then find sources) is a nightmare. This is very important - Wikipedia will not accept the article without those good sources. PS - cool username, great movie. The Interior (Talk) 23:36, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh great, now I have this song stuck in my head! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:41, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I'll have to check out that version. I must've seen the Kino version with the original score. Adam Ant? I think so. The Interior (Talk) 23:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I've seen them both, but I saw the 1984 first, so it really stuck with me. I haven't see this gem or this one in ages either. I think I'm in dire need of an all night movie-fest! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Ditto that. I've fallen off my German Neu Wave lately, a Fassbinder would be cool. Slightly related - saw "The Master" last weekend, P.T. Anderson's latest. Loved it in a strange way. (I make a mean bowl of p-corn, BTW. I specialize in global fusion toppings, e.g. Garam Masala Parmesan, etc.)The Interior (Talk) 00:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The Master is at the tippy top of my 'must see' at the moment. I bought some popcorn last week that was made with ghee...I imagine the garam masala would be a fantastic topper! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

And I own the Criterion Collection release of Berlin Alexanderplatz - it may need to be a movie week! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Haven't seen it - 13 hours of Fassbindery, I'm in. Genius flash - heat up some ghee, add a dollop of Cheez Whiz, simmer at low heat. We'll call it .... I'm at a loss as to what to call it. The Interior (Talk) 00:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Userspace Page Protection Request

Hey Ponyo, can you indef-semi-protect a few pages in my userspace for me please? The pages are:

• User:Neutralhomer/List of AT&T U-verse Channels
• User:Neutralhomer/List of DirecTV channels
• User:Neutralhomer/List of Dish Network channels
• User:Neutralhomer/List of Verizon FiOS channels
• User:Neutralhomer/List of United States cable and satellite television networks
• User:Neutralhomer/List of Sky Angel channels

Thanks - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

All done. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:57, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank ya kindly. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:57, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Religion categories

Hello, I'm just now noticing your last two messages. First off let me be clear, I have no intention of violating Wikipedia policies. I first got a message, I'm guessing it was from you as well, saying not to categorize people by religion if the article doesn't state it clearly. I am not doing that since. I only add it now if IT IS MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE that a person is of certain religion ( and only for Jews). The way the Jewish religion works is, if you were born to a Jewish mother, unless you converted, you're Jewish. Since Ted Koppel (you mentioned him as an example) was born to a Jewish mother, did not convert, and is American, he is by definition an American Jew. What's the problem here? He doesn't have to go on TV and say "I'm Jewish", that's his default by birth. If he says otherwise or declares he has no religion it should be removed of course, but that's not the case. Please explain. Anibar E (talk) 15:45, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The information I provided in my messages to you said nothing of the religion merely being mentioned in the article, and the links I provided outlining the policy are both very clear (which leaves me concerned you may not have read them). In order for a religion or ethnicity to be included as a category the category must be supported by sourced article content and there needs to be evidence, again verifiable through sourced article content, that the subject personally identifies with said religion. Even if the reliable sourcing and self-identification qualifications are met, religious and ethnic categories can be removed if the categories are not related to the subject's notability. You may disagree, but there is long-term community consensus behind these requirements. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:14, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

While you may think the links provided are clear, and I try to follow them as close as possible, the way I learn most about how to edit is by reviewing other Wikipedia articles. Please help me better understand why Chuck Barris for instance is eligible for the American Jews category, while others are not. Thanks Anibar E (talk) 16:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

In a nutshell, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. There are over 4 million articles on Wikipedia and editors are working all the time to clean them up and keep them in sync with current policy and guidelines. If another editor or admin points out that there are issues with your edits then it benefits you to review their concerns, especially when it comes to one of Wikipedia's most immutable and bright line policies covering our biographies of living persons. If you believe in a specific instance that a category should be included even though the content may not support it, or there does not appear to be evidence of self-identification, then you can always bring up the matter for discussion on the article talk page. The biographies of living persons noticeboard is also available to discuss specific cases. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:45, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, I have been doing some reading of the materials you provided me, as well as my own little research on Wikipedia, and while I fully intend to respect your input as an editor or manager or whatever you are, I think you have real problems. Your threat to ban or block me for trying to improve Wikipedia while making one of the most common mistakes is off putting. I've seen hundreds of articles that innocently violate that common mistake (another example - Timati), so you should chill. There's a right way of saying things and a wrong way. Not everyone spends all their free time in Wikipedia like I suspect you do. While I have your ear, so you could help avoid making that same mistake in the future, I'd like for you to explain to me the categories on this article for instance: Benny Goodman. The category:Jewish American musicians is acceptable here, but the category:American Jews isn't.

This is simply beyond me. While I don't agree, I at least understand the demands for the person to self identify him self as such etc. but for this issue, we don't even need to look if there's a link or anything, just think rationally. The group "Jewish American Musicians" is included, IN ITS ENTIRELY, in the group "American Jews". Every single person who is in that group is an American Jew, and on top of that, he/she is also a musician. Why was that category removed from here, while the other one is permitted to stay? I understand that the category "of Jewish decent" is different, but that's not the case here. Thank you. Anibar E (talk) 17:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You have several points here, so let's see if I can address them all. First, there was no threat - I gave you a clear warning that if you continued to disregard Wikipedia's BLP policy you would be blocked. To that point you had continued to add categories that did not meet policy and guidelines and had refused to discuss the matter. That's not acceptable in a collaborative and consensus-driven project. It's a mistake when you do it once - to repeat the same behaviour when multiple editors/administrators point out the error is disruptive. The warning had the best possible outcome as you are now asking questions to help clarify your understanding of the policies. The comment regarding how I spend my free time is both petty and incorrect, but I'm more than willing to take your barbs as long as I have your attention and you're willing to discuss your edits.

Regarding the Benny Goodman article - the category "Jewish American musicians" is a subcategory of "American Jews". By adding the more specific category it automatically incorporates the top level category making the inclusion of the "American Jews" category redundant. You can read more about this at Wikipedia:Categorization#Category tree organization. If at any time you have a question regarding the inclusion of a category in an article (especially if it is one of the EGRS categories), the best place to ask it is on the talk page of the article in question. There is currently a request for comment open looking for input with regards to Wikipedia's categorization of people which you may find interesting and/or helpful; you can find it here. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:21, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the fast reply. I will point out I haven't read your new links yet. I agree that the category would be redundant if I'm seeing both of them from the article itself, however when people are simply looking for American Jews that did something significant enough to deserve a Wikipedia article, they will not see Benny Goodman's name in there, unless they go through every single sub-category individually, which is far less likely. I'm trying to give these people a place to see all the influential American Jews. That's why it is not redundant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anibar E (talk • contribs) 18:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Another problem I find with this: Jerzy Kosinski. It is stated and accepted at the first paragraph, that he is Polish and American. At the end of the article he is in the category "Polish Jews". Why can't he be in the "American Jews" category then?? This contradicts any basic logic what so ever. Anibar E (talk) 19:08, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

That would be a question for the article talk page. Read through what's been discussed before, and if the issue has not been addressed then you can start a discussion on it. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:15, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I've done as you asked on about ten occasions in the articles' talk pages and didn't come across a single person who had a problem with me adding that person to the category in question. I'm gonna start adding them now. Anibar E (talk) 04:56, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For all of your great work, especially on OTRS! --v/r Electric Catfish (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Undoing changes made.

I've added reliable sources where it 'has been implied' that Ragini khanna was born in 1986 but even then you seem to have a problem with it. I've been visiting her wikipedia page quite often and the year of birth has been changed almost thrice in the past two months all of which do not have any backing in 'reliable sources/ published information.' So if you're so particular about letting only the correct information to be shown then why did you allow 1988 and 1989 to be given as her birth year when now you're claiming 1987 is the right one. check out the history of revisions if you want to verify my point. Also can you show me the 'Reliable source you've got to put down her year of birth as 1987. would very much like to see it.Looks like you are a crazy fan who doesnt want to put down her right year of birth. Please stop if that's what you are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylaniya (talk • contribs) 06:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I didn't add the 1987 date to the article, I just restored what was already there. As the date keeps changing, and no editor has ever supplied a reliable source for verification, I have removed it as contentious per BLP policy. Note that we don't include "implied" information - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which relies on verifiable facts, note best guesses. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Phylicia Rashad - Alpha Kappa Alpha

Ponyo, here is the reference you seek. (http://www.aka1908.com/events/alphachapter/). Also, Wikipedia has her listed among the members of the organization, and lists her original chapter. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alpha_Kappa_Alpha_sisters) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.169.180.152 (talk) 15:53, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

That's great that you have a source - please make sure to add it to the article if you restore the information. If you're unsure how to use the ref tags, just let me know and I can help. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I am unsure of how to use the ref tags. Any help would do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.169.134.242 (talk) 06:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The simplest format is the use of ref tags (in the format <ref>insert weblink here</ref>). It can be expanded later by others who can format the references better. If you're really stuck, just make you you include a link to your reference in your edit summary so that others can verify the content.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Burton on Trent

Hi P. After a couple weeks of peace our Burton on Trent vandal has returned and is currently editing from thie IP 90.200.85.15 (talk · contribs). Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 17:38, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Another admin zapped it whilst I was slacking off entertaining (Canadian) Thanksgiving guests....--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanx for checking and I hope that everyone had a great meal and time. MarnetteD | Talk 20:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Here is a new one that is active at this moment. 90.200.85.127 (talk · contribs). If you are online any help would be appreciated. MarnetteD | Talk 20:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Blocked for a week. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's Collaborative

WikiWomen Unite!

Hi Ponyo! Women around the world who edit and contribute to Wikipedia are coming together to celebrate each other's work, support one another, and engage new women to also join in on the empowering experience of shaping the sum of all the world's knowledge - through the WikiWomen's Collaborative. As a WikiWoman, we'd love to have you involved! You can do this by: Liking the WikiWomen's Collaborative on Facebook and share your tips, projects, and connect with other WikiWomen Join the conversation on our Twitter feed Reading and writing for our blog channel We can't wait to have you involved, and feel free to drop by our meta page (under construction) to see how else you can get involved! Can't wait to have you involved! SarahStierch (talk) 00:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Carina Round

Hello! Would you be willing to Semi-protect Carina Round? Apparently the BLP subject has asked fans to vandalise the article. Ugh. --Tgeairn (talk) 00:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Tgeairn (talk) 00:20, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I locked it for three days - hopefully they will get bored by then and move on. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

UTRS

Can you please explain this decline? The user is requesting more information because he's already been blocked nearly 6 months, and all you really did was send a blanket statement of "wait 6 months and try again" with no indication as to why. I don't see any reason not to try an unblock in this situation. WP:ROPE works well. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 20:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

His talk page history showed that as recently as July 24 there were still major concerns regarding his editing, so much so that his talk page access was revoked. There were also notes from involved editors that a year would be an appropriate time before he should return and request an unblock. Despite this he waited only two months to request unblock via UTRS, which is why I declined with information regarding standard offer as a way to possibly find his way back to the community in a few months time. If you disagree and believe they are ready for a return now then you are welcome to contact the blocking admin and mentor to see if something can be worked out. My decline is not gospel by any means and if you want to work with him, by all means please do! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:47, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

AWB task

Hi. Yes. However, due to the volume of my edits (many thousands) I expect there are a few errors. I will try to be more careful in the future. --Meno25 (talk) 15:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I am pleased to know you. --Meno25 (talk) 07:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Ponyo. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard.
Message added 06:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Page Curation newsletter - closing up!

Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:12, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Temp

ACC access request confirmation. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:54, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Ponyo, thank you for interest in the account creation process. I have verified your Identification [1] and I have approved your request, welcome to the team. You may now access the interface here. Before you do so, please read the account creation guide and our username policy thoroughly to familiarize yourself with the process. You should also join us on IRC #wikipedia-en-accounts ^connect on where a bot informs us when new account requests come in and to get any advice on requests as well as the mailing list. Please note that we have implemented a policy of zero tolerance on mishandled requests, and that failure to assess correctly will result in suspension. I would like to emphasize that it is not a race to complete a request, and each one should be handled diligently and thoroughly. Currently you are allowed to create up to six accounts per day, although you won't be able to create an account with a similar name to that of another user; these requests are marked "Account Creator Needed" by the bot and "Flagged user needed" on the interface. However, if you reach the limit frequently, you can request the account creator permission at WP:PERM/ACC. Please keep in mind that the ACC tool is a powerful program, and misuse will result in your access being suspended by a tool administrator. Don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions. Thank you for participating in the account creation process. Again welcome!
Mlpearc (powwow) 05:12, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Note: Ponyo if you plan to process requests that require CheckUser (and we can always use that kind of help , you'll need to poke Stwalkerster to enable that function on the tool. Cheers Mlpearc (powwow) 05:18, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Cheers for the note, I think DeltaQuad is going to add the flag for me. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 05:21, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

matt settle

Hi! Sorry, I was unsure as to how to add a source, i understand now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.106.7 (talk) 14:39, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Lisa Palfrey

Hello Ponyo. I am Zodiac Firebroom (talk) 21:50, 29 October 2012 (UTC). Thank you for your note. I am new to editing Wikipedia and appreciate the guidance on etiquette. The edit to remove reference to Lisa Palfrey's appearance on Pobol y Cwm was intentional. This was initially prompted by the original description of Lisa being "best known" for appearing on the programme, a subjective description difficult to support in the context of Lisa Palfrey's career. My intention is to expand the Lisa Palfrey entry to include a more comprehensive list of her theatre, film and television work. I would suggest that Pobol y Cwm would be better placed in this comprehensive list - there are at least a dozen of Lisa Palfrey's roles that would be more appropriate in an introductory paragraph, whether one wished to use viewing figures, awards or cultural significance as the criteria.

It's fine to move the material around, but please don't blank sourced information in articles unless there is either a problem with the source, or the information is contentious (such as potential libel issues). In all cases where you are removing sourced content you should make a note explaining why on the talk page. If you are at all affiliated with Lisa Palfrey, please ensure you have reviewed Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you and happy editing, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:46, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Article deletion

I have worked with Mr. Shaukat Ali back in Libya. I think he deserve to be on wiki for his outstanding performance in businesses in libya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wajids (talk • contribs) 17:45, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

If you have worked with Shaukat Ali then you likely have a conflict of interest with regard to the subject; this is reflected in the promotional manner in which the article was written which lacked the neutral tone that is required for Wikipedia articles. Please do not continue to recreate this article - if you believe Shaukat Ali qualifies under Wikipedia notability criteria I would suggest that you request an article here.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:54, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

why delete my talk Ahmed Mesleh

Hi, iam asking about why deleting of my talk Ahmed mesleh this person is a very famous Palestinian Photographer i hope we can find a way to return the page nearly.

thank you Alyateema (talk) 18:51, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I understand that it is frustrating to see your work deleted, however the article was wholly promotional in tone which runs against Wikipedia policy regarding neutrality. The article also appeared to consist almost solely of original research and unsourced personal information. Please read this set of notability criteria, and if you believe that Ahmad Mesleh meets the criteria listed, I would suggest using the Article Wizard to create an article for review. If you do write a new article, it is very important that you only include complete neutrally worded facts supported by reliable sources. Good luck. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:04, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

please delete two page versions

Since you were the person who deleted an article I started this morning, I thought I would also "pick on you" :) to please delete revisions of another article on my user page that also contain copyrighted material. I wrote this prior to understanding WikiPedia (still learning) and thought this was not public in any sense.

The user page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jonwurl/AndrewJacksonTurner. The versions that are "bad" are from October 2011. The current version dated today does not contain copyrighted material (it is original by me).

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonwurl (talk • contribs) 21:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

All done! (and thanks for letting me know)--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Undo's of categories

Just wanted to ask, why the undo's of categories at Israel ben Moses Najara and Nathan of Gaza? Debresser (talk) 06:54, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Debresser, thanks for checking. The edits came from a block-evading editor who's sole purpose is to introduce BLPCAT/EGRS violations across hundreds of articles. If there are any instances where they actually got it right, please feel free to undo my category changes. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 15:09, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Debresser (talk) 17:00, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Possible WP:G5

Hi JP. Mohammed AL Maiman looks to be a duplicate of Mohammed Al Maiman and Mohammed al Maiman. Plenty of significance asserted, so none of the usual CSD categories apply, but the other versions were mostly deleted as "created by blocked or banned users". I can't see who the creator/s were however, so I'm hesitant to apply the tags. (Of course, it would be useful to have the extra buttons to see things like this by myself... ) Could you possibly have a look into this? Thanks!--Shirt58 (talk) 05:19, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok - article deleted and salted, account blocked as a sock _{<blows smoke from mop>}. Anything else I can help with? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 05:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Who was the sockmaster? --Shirt58 (talk) 05:43, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The chain of socks appears to link back to User:Taztouzi1; although this was just a duck block, no CU necessary.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 05:48, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Guido Fuà page.

Hi, I can obtain the permission for that text, but i guess it would be easier to write it in different words(i don't want to put ambiguos copyright sentences on the website). Is it possible to have back by a message the old text formatted with the proper markup so i can edit it?

Thank you, --Axyzxp (talk) 13:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)Andrea Moretti — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axyzxp (talk • contribs) 13:42, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I see you've begun the Articles for Creation process - do you still need a copy of the deleted article? If so you will need to enable your email by visiting "my preferences", and checking "Enable email from other users" and I will send you a copy (I can't move it to your userspace to work on it as we cannot host the copyright-violating material anywhere on Wikipedia).--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:01, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks but i've wrote it from scratch, by the way good to know how to share my mail--Axyzxp (talk) 17:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok, good luck with your article! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:28, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

....for your good work. Cheers, 99.155.206.28 (talk) 20:31, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The same to you! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:33, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

1 week block - extend to indef?

Hello, you recently blocked a user for 1 week for socking. [2]

The user also appears to have made a legal threat [3]. Should the block be converted to indeff until that issue is resolved? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

The legal threat is rather weak and another admin has already addressed concerns regarding the use of the word libel and declined to block. I have noted at the ANI discussion that if there are behavioural issues outside of the socking that warrant an extension of the block I have no issues with that. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Unlocking of Imperial College IPv6 address range

Hi; I've replied to you regarding this on my talk page, with a link back to the original discussion which led to the block. I've now unblocked the range, but note my caveats in my comments. -- The Anome (talk) 22:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The caveats are certainly valid - if the range needs reblocking we can simply divert valid potential editors to account creation for assistance. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:24, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Block review

User:Memills was not blocked when he asked to be unblocked, but he is now. Please read the sectionsEditing restriction on Men's rights movement, broadly construed and if you have time, Be cautious on User talk:Memills for background. He was topic banned, but allowed to edit talk pages. He edited the article in violation, and prior to that he appealed his block, which he apparently knew would follow violating his topic ban. KillerChihuahua^?!? 22:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

They appealed their block before being blocked, knowing the block was forthcoming? How very proactive of them! It appears that you have everything under control at User talk:Memills, can I help with anything else? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:59, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

No, thank you, I merely wished to inform you as the reviewing admin. :-) Thank you for taking a look. KillerChihuahua^?!? 01:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

This is not a newsletter

This is just a tribute.

Anyway. You're getting this note because you've participated in discussion and/or asked for updates to either the Article Feedback Tool or Page Curation. This isn't about either of those things, I'm afraid ;p. We've recently started working on yet another project: Echo, a notifications system to augment the watchlist. There's not much information at the moment, because we're still working out the scope and the concepts, but if you're interested in further updates you can sign up here.

In addition, we'll be holding an office hours session at 21:00 UTC on Wednesday, 14 November in #wikimedia-office - hope to see you all there :). I appreciate it's an annoying time for non-Europeans: if you're interested in chatting about the project but can't make it, give me a shout and I can set up another session if there's enough interest in one particular timezone or a skype call if there isn't. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Re:Rian13

As the SPI case been reviewed I'm not sure whether I can add more, or have to resubmit it, but I've just come across Rian20 (talk · contribs) which isn't currently blocked, but has articles in common with Rian2008. Rian20 was making edits in June 2012. What should I do? Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:08, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know - I've blocked it as well. Rian13 is a rather unimaginative sockmaster with regard to usernames and article targets - let me know if you see them pop up anywhere in the future and I'll take care of it.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Will do, thanks. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:28, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Torontojack sock

Hi Ponyo, Just letting you know that AnimeNorth made an identical edit to Torontojack's edit and I have blocked based on that. We may be headed towards blacklisting the link and I have left a note on Hu12's talk page.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 02:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Link is listed here.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 03:03, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

For the record, Torontojack and AnimeNorth are  Confirmed. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 03:33, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Ponyo. :)
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 03:42, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

TYSM

Hello, Jassie400 here. Thank you for pointing that out. I am still pretty much of a newbie here at Wiki. As you had pointed out, I have supported the changes with necessary reference/citations. Kindly do check and please do feel free to send any more suggestions along my way. Thank You once again Ponyo. Jassie400 (talk) 10:39, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jassie400, unfortunately the reference you added does not meet Wikipedia's reliable sourcing criteria for biography articles. Tertiary sources such as IMDB and oneindia are essentially just a compendia of statistics that lack the fact checking required for use for biographical data. If her birthday is indeed coming up in a few days then it's likely that a reliable secondary source (such as a newspaper) will make note of the fact and we will then be able to use that source for verification. If you are ever unsure if a particular source meets WP:BLPSOURCES criteria there is a noticeboard where you can ask. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:14, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

2012-13 U.S. Winter Storm Season deletion

Hi Ponyo,

I was a supporter of keeping the 2012-13 U.S. winter storm season page, and when I logged onto Wikipedia today I saw it was deleted. I looked around and couldn't find a reason for the eventual deletion of the page. Because I saw that you were the user who left a message saying 'this page has been deleted', do you have an explanation for the deletion? I'm definitely not mad at you or anyone else, including supporters of the deletion. I just want to know why the page was deleted so I can better understand the deletion guidelines I've already come to know.

Thanks, Alexander1257

Alexander1257 (talk) 00:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Alexander1257, the page was nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012-13 U.S. winter storm season and the discussion was closed by an administrator as "delete". If you believe there was an error made in the Article for Deletion process or outcome then you can raise the issue at deletion review. You could also ask the closing admin for additional information or details if you still have questions. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Userpage

Please advise what would be approporiate to create my user page, as you have completely deleted my whole bio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surangi Kasturirathne (talk • contribs) 07:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage was deleted as it appears to exist solely to promote you and your work, which is contrary to Wikipedia policy. You have received both a welcome message from another user replete with links to help introduce you to Wikipedia, as well as a message from me regarding the creation of autobiographies. You blanked both of these messages. As your only edits to date have been self-promotional, could you advise what type of editing you intent to contribute to Wikipedia? Guidelines for what should or can appear on your userpage can be found here--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup

If you're up and about, might need a revdel for some of the 195.195.32.103 edits on Aubrey Beardsley‎. The Interior (Talk) 16:47, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes I fear for our future.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:02, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but teenagers have always been moronic; I'm thinking of the F-bomb on the wall in the museum in Catcher in the Rye. Maybe they always will be. Exceptions of course were teenaged Interior and teenaged Ponyo. The Interior (Talk) 23:10, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

True enough. I would describe my teenage self as "mildly naughty". I was too busy trying to figure out who killed Laura Palmer to get into much trouble (yes, I'm that old).--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Truth be told, I did my share of stupidness in my teens. Just ask my high school principal. On second thought, don't. He's probably wiped me from his memory. My obsessions were Quentin Tarantino, Lou Barlow, Richard Brautigan and, oddly, ER. Not sure what was going on with E.R., but I loved it. I wanted to be a doctor I guess. Oh, and Ween. Sadly, getting your hands on any Lynch in rural BC was a bit difficult. That had to wait til college. The Interior (Talk) 05:47, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

About Jane Goldman article

About Jane Goldman article

Hello! Thanks for the messages about the Jane Goldman page. I'm new here and I really like this writer, so I just wanna help. Can you help me to find a recent image of that we can use in the article, please? Thanks. P.S.: I'm reading the links you send me. Thanks for that too. And I'm sorry about my insistence. Now I'm reading the articles and I will edit other pages with more caution. Caiomadrox (talk) 21:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

	Thanks!
	Don't worry, I'll have caution. Thanks again! For everything. :) Caiomadrox (talk) 22:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Tim Westwood

Can you please stop reverting the page 'Tim Westwood'.

These changes are directly requested as the original page contained various false information.

Please leave it as it is now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassanjustice (talk • contribs) 16:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

No, that's not how Wikipedia works. You are making repeated massive changes to the article without discussion. Go to the talk page, outline the changes that you are proposing, and the community will arrive at a consensus as to what should stay and what goes. If you continue to ignore requests to discuss proposed changes it is considered edit-warring and will lead to a block of your account. I have tried to help you but you've been completely uncommunicative. Let's hope that changes now.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:04, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Study Edge Wiki Page

Hello,

My name is Trevor Abbott. I currently tried to create a page for "Study Edge," a tutoring company for college students that was started in Gainesville, FL. I am a student at the University of Florid and have been trying to create this wikipedia page for a project I am doing. The previous page I created said it was deleted due to the advertisement nature of the page. I believe the problem may have come from the fact that I took information straight from the company's website and put it on the wikipedia article. Would you be able to help me so that I can successfully create this page? I am trying to figure out what can and cannot be said about corporations on a wikipedia page. Thank you very much for your help.

Respectfully, Trevor Abbott

Tabbott40 (talk) 19:20, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Trevor - I would suggest following the articles for creation process. It's very important that you avoid any "promotional speak" and imperative that the article is written in your own words to avoid copyright issues. If you're stuck there are plenty of volunteers at the teahouse and the help desk who would be happy to lend a hand. Good luck!--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:58, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

76.175.145.223

Yes... I think we shall require a talk page block here. MadGuy7023 (talk) 21:49, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Done! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:55, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

richysize

page_name richysize i would like to get the original text to improve on the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richysize (talk • contribs) 23:58, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

page_name richysize i would like to get the original text to improve on the page Richysize (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Even if it was moved to userspace, it would still be deletable as promotional. Please don't user Wikipedia to promote yourself, it is against our policies to do so. If you would like a personal copy however I could email it to you. Please see this page for additional information. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Unblock denial

I do not understand what this block is all about. What damage have I done to wikipedia. I answered a question, and I get blocked saying I am am someone else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.5.221 (talk) 18:48, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

As you have just evaded your block at User:Aunitedfront in order to post here, your 24.57.5.221 IP has been blocked as well. If you want to be considered for an unblock, you need to make the appeal via the talk page of your original account. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:00, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Response at WP:OP

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies/Requests#74.52.95.202. Since the unblock request came through UTRS, I guess any further dialog would have to go through there as well. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 18:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the head's up; I've added an additional note there. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:07, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

T-Shirt

I thought that you deserved something a bit extra for all of the amazing work you've done for the project. I've nominated you for a gift from the Wikimedia Foundation!

--v/r - TP 21:15, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Awwwww, thank you TParis! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:19, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

User:69.149.252.188

Just FYI, this IP who you blocked for vandalism for two weeks back on the 10th, is back. Their first edits were to change the middle name of Julia Roberts' father from Grady, which is correct, to George, which is not, on two articles. Yworo (talk) 00:39, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

...and reblocked. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)