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Murder of Shimu

@John B123, Can you elaborate on why this might not be notable? As someone who has access to South Asian TV channels and print media, the news is flooded with this for the last few days, so I looked up and there wasn't an article about it, hence I created one. In any case, if you could express your concerns, I would attempt to fix them. Tame (talk) 14:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Tame. Around 500,000 people are murdered every year. Most of these are reported in the media. Whilst every one of these are sad occurrences, we don't have an article for each. If the the victim is notable then we generally have an article on them and the murder is included in that article. For other murders, they normally only have an article is there's something that makes the murder itself notable. Per WP:SUSTAINED, Brief bursts of news coverage may not sufficiently demonstrate notability. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:12, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@John B123, Yeah I'm aware of that rule. But the victim was a model and actress, and has been the subject of coverage even before her death regarding her acting. For instance, (to find out I filtered Google search's date range from 2010-2021), this article from Feb 2017 on major Bengali newspaper Daily Inqilab. And literally every single of the articles post her death more or less mentions her acting and modeling works.-- Tame (talk) 15:26, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@John B123, Although as you being the more experienced editor/reviewer, if you really feel she isn't notable, I'm willing to tag it for deletion. Tame (talk) 15:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

​ I made the comments above based on the fact there was no article for her. Looking at this article for example, it may be that sufficient evidence could be found to show notability under WP:NACTOR. My concern when tagging was that as the article stands it doesn't show notability, rather than it defiantly wasn't (in which case I would have nominated it for deletion). It might be worth you getting a second opinion on this. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:53, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Regarding Jagat Mama

Why you delete article Jagat Mama so quick, I am working on that page to improve.

Now I want to work on that page, help. Qweasdzxc (talk) 02:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Qweasdzxc: Please create the article at Draft:Jagat Mama and when you feel it is ready for publication submit it to WP:AfC. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 12:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Can I get previous article data? Back Qweasdzxc (talk) 13:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

​You would need to ask the admin who deleted the article, Bbb23, about that. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:03, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Ok Qweasdzxc (talk) 14:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Notability tag for Monique Ryan

Hi, I hope all is well on your end! I noticed you placed a notability tag on Monique Ryan, which I had accepted through AfC earlier. As her h-index demonstrates on her Google Scholar, she would be a definite pass of Wikipedia:Notability (academics) in my book, and many an editor who review academics would agree that would be the case, I believe. As noted in WP:PROF, " failure to meet either the general notability guideline or other subject-specific notability guidelines is irrelevant if an academic is notable under this WP:NPROF guideline.". Generally, I would say having over 100 citations in 5 peer-reviewed scientific journals is a pass, and this case it's over 20 publications, including 10 with over 200 citations, and 1 with 1000+. Please let me know if you feel comfortable with myself removing the tag based on this message. Thank you! nearlyevil665 15:25, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi nearlyevil. As the lead of the article is Monique Marie Ryan is an Australian pediatric neurologist and independent politician, I just looked at notability in terms of her being a doctor, for which there are no SNGs, and a politician, where she fails WP:NPOLITICIAN. I didn't look at notability as an academic. I've no objection to the tag being removed. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:54, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi John, thanks for the swift reply! I'll remove the tag then. Have a nice day! nearlyevil665 16:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Carlo Bertolotto

Hello John, Thank you for your message ! I do not hide from you that I am a little disappointed... Couldn't there be a way to find a solution? Your advice will be precious... You will have understood it: I am not English and rather specialized in rugby for 10 years on Wiki. France ! To read to you. Best regards. MENUISERIE91 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi MENUISERIE91, the article was written with a highly promotional tone. I would suggest you rewrite it in a more neutral manner. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Good evening John, How can I retrieve the "matrix" of the article on Carlo Bertolotto ? Best regards. MENUISERIE91 (talk) 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi MENUISERIE91. You would need to ask the deleting admin, Shirt58, about this. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:35, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks ! MENUISERIE91 (talk) 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Nanhsiungchelyids

Thanks for looking over the stubs I added for Kharakhutulia and Nanhsiungchelys! Cheers, -TimTheDragonRider (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi TimTheDragonRider, no problem. Thank you for your contributions to WP. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Vandalizm !!

[ Malecomes ] this man is insulting me and falsifying my resources Aydın memmedov2000 (talk) 22:06, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Aydın memmedov2000. I'm not an admin so there is little I can do. I suggest you post your concerns on WP:ANI. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:53, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing my articles

Hey John B123, this is Derivator2017 here, I guess you're familiar with me. Thanks for reviewing my recent article, just here to say that I really a appreciate you for reviewing my articles. It's always a pleasure to have your articles reviewed by a veteran editor. However, it apparently seems like not everyone enjoys seeing me on this platform. I have recently created an article, Yara International School and it was placed on AfD for the third time by the same editor under the pretext of notability, despite me providing around 70 references this time and out of which 3 to 4 sources clearly make the article eligible for existence. Kindly review my article and place your opinion in the deletion discussion page. Warm regards. Derivator2017 (talk) 19:31, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Derivator2017, I already informed you at my user talk page that this sort of notice is canvassing. Please stop, or you may be blocked from editing. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:01, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Seconding Rosguill. Celestina007 (talk) 21:50, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing my two articles

Thanks for reviewing my articles Georg Gossembrot and Cultural depictions of Holy Emperor Maximilian I. Deamonpen (talk) 10:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Deamonpen, no problem. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Question about Article Deletion

Hi, you tagged the article History of the University of Southern California for deletion. Is the copyright issue from me blatantly copying the entire history section of the main article, University of Southern California, or is it because the person who wrote the history section of USC plagiarized from another source, thus me and whoever wrote USC’s history section are bth guilty of plaigiarism. As far as I know there aren’t any rules against copying from another editor on Wikipedia. LMK if there are.

PS I looked into the source I supposedly plagiarized from, and that source is a Wikipedia mirror, copying its contents from USC’s main wikipedia page. Would it be possible for you to remove the speedy deletion tag? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MLGDatBoi1738 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 26 January 2022 (UTC) -MLGDatBoi1738 1/26/22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MLGDatBoi1738 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi MLGDatBoi1738, we have a number of tools that look for copyvios for new pages and the script threw up the external site. Whilst you can copy Wikipedia content, there are requirements regarding attribution - see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. I have added the required attribution to History of the University of Southern California and also removed the tag.

Are you intending to remove the history from the University of Southern California, ie are you splitting the article? If not the new article simply duplicates existing content and is therefore eligible for deletion under WP:A10. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I intend on greatly expanding the article ASAP. Made the new article as I thought the summary on the main USC article was way too short for a university of that age. -MLGDatBoi1738

I'd remove the history content from University of Southern California sooner rather than later in case somebody doesn't realise your intentions. Regards --John B123 (talk) 19:31, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

As in just wiping out that whole thing and leave just a link to the History page? Sorry, I’ve been on here for less than a week so IDK how things work; mainly using other university articles as inspiration. I guess I can add back a summary when the History page is finished. -MLGDatBoi1738

Just leaving the link is fine for now. Regards --John B123 (talk) 19:39, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Seem

From what you say on here you are or were a new page reviewer with over 175K edits. Why are you questioning notability? Particularly when it's not hard to show you that you aren't right?Justanother2 (talk) 22:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Justanother2: Haven't got a clue what you are talking about. --John B123 (talk) 22:32, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Merge

Hi John - hope you are well. Apologies for those tags - I thought two articles on the same topic created at different times (with different names) got tagged for merging? I'm not 100% ofay in this area, hence the mistake. Thanks! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, I'm good thanks, hope you are too. No problem, I think the tag you intended to use was {{merge}}, or alternatively {{merge to}} and {{merge from}}. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:58, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Ahh, right - thanks for the clarification. Cheers! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 19:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion on Speedy Deletion of NABC Framework

Hello John,

Hope you are safe and well!

Thank you for taking the time to address this discussion. I want to apologize to all the Wikipedia users, if NABC Framework article looks promotional, it may be rewritten to be more encyclopedic. However, I strongly believe ( Need, Approach, Benefits, and Competition (NABC)) framework deserves a respectful place in Wikipedia since it has been recognized by leaders from various industries and a simple google search shows its prevalence. I am adding references from the academic and scientific world below to support my argument as it is a widely accepted practice that has shaped a lot of innovations. None of the references was used in the original article and I am sharing them to reflect the method's wide acceptance.

NABC framework has been instrumental in developing technologies such as Siri (now used by Apple), HDTV and robotics surgeries systems for creating value proposition framework. It is as powerful as Business Model Canvas and I strongly believe more people should have awareness of this methodology as it is well recognized by the scientific and academic community.

If you believe, this sounds like an advertisement, I am more than happy to rewrite the article. However, I sincerely request you to consider this article beyond the tonality. After considering the sources mentioned below, if you believe this article should not be on Wikipedia, I can rewrite and touch base with you before creating a new page and seek your valuable input.

References

Redvall E.N. (2018) Reaching Young Audiences Through Research: Using the NABC Method to Create the Norwegian Web Teenage Drama SKAM/Shame. In: Thornley D. (eds) True Event Adaptation. Palgrave Studies in Adaptation and Visual Culture. Palgrave Macmillan, Cham. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-319-97322-7_8

H. J. LeBlanc and F. Hassan, "A spiral approach to teach value propositions using the NABC framework in core engineering courses," 2017 IEEE Frontiers in Education Conference (FIE), 2017, pp. 1-5, doi: 10.1109/FIE.2017.8190583. URL: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=&arnumber=8190583&isnumber=8190427

Fang, Ting Yien, Sarva Mangala Praveena, Claire deBurbure, Ahmad Zaharin Aris, Sharifah Norkhadijah Syed Ismail, and Irniza Rasdi. "Analytical techniques for steroid estrogens in water samples-A review." Chemosphere 165 (2016): 358-368. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.chemosphere.2016.09.051

Wee, S.Y. and Aris, A.Z., 2017. Endocrine disrupting compounds in drinking water supply system and human health risk implication. Environment international, 106, pp.207-233. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412016310182?via%3Dihub

Evelina Thiger, Lotta Woxblom & Anders Roos (2017) Empathic design for wood product innovation based on genuine customer needs – A test application on Swedish builders, Wood Material Science & Engineering, 12:3, 118-128, DOI: 10.1080/17480272.2015.1056226 https://doi.org/10.1080/17480272.2015.1056226

P. Rathod, V. Julkunen, T. Kaisti and J. Nissilä, "Automatic acceptance testing of the web application security with ITU-T X.805 framework," 2015 Second International Conference on Computer Science, Computer Engineering, and Social Media (CSCESM), 2015, pp. 103-108, doi: 10.1109/CSCESM.2015.7331876. https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/7331876

Hi Vaibhav155, I'm well thanks, hope you are too. As it stands the article reads like a press release. I'm happy to move it to draftspace where you can work on it to rewrite it in a more encyclopaedic tone if you wish. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:27, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi John B123, thanks for replying promptly. Yes, that sounds great. I will be happy to rework this article. I just want to confirm if the sources mentioned are notable and support this article?

Hi Vaibhav155, I've moved the article to Draft:NABC Framework where you can work on it without interference. The sources look ok in establishing notability. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:53, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you John! fi$her (talk) 14:34, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Re: Bashir Jamoh

I understand your concern on this page. However, I am making efforts to give it the ideal outlook. However, if there is any information you deem to remove to give it the ideal outlook that will be appreciated. Meanwhile, kindly remove the mark for deletion you have put on it. Thank you. Ojifo's Raphael (talk) 22:12, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ojifo's Raphael. The whole article reads like a press release or a cv and needs to be re-written in a more encyclopaedic tone. I can move it to draft where you can work on it without interference if you prefer. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:19, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I will work on it in a few hours. Thank you. Ojifo's Raphael (talk) 22:34, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Could you help

Hi User:John B123 I saw you on recent edits and wondered if you could help. I am a new user and I wanted to create a redirect Snoochie Shy to BBC Radio 1Xtra as she is a presenter on the show. Could you please thanks Linda Binson (talk) 23:16, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Linda Binson, the page Snoochie Shy is protected so only admins can create it, which I'm not. Redirects are normally only created if there is a mention in the target article, ie Snoochie Shy needs to be mentioned in BBC Radio 1Xtra to justify the redirect. There is a draft article at Draft:Snoochie Shy if you wanted to work on it. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:25, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

RamazanvAras

I hope you don't delete the page. I worked on it for quite a while. It is pretty standard biography stuff that I gathered for Ramazan. He is a respected scholar and I think he deserves a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WithAngelica (talk • contribs) 16:32, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi WithAngelica. You need to write the article in your own words not copy it from https://soc.ihu.edu.tr/en/academician/ramazan-aras-en/ Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:37, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

ok, great thanks for your help and assistance in this matter it was so helpful and appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WithAngelica (talk • contribs) 17:50, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi WithAngelica. I've tagged Saroja Sirisena for the improvements needed for the article. I've also resolved most of the issues to show you what is expected in articles. (see page history for what I have done). Hope this helps. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Excellent, very good. I am new at this so I appreciate your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WithAngelica (talk • contribs) 10:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Invitation to discussion: FAC 4 nomination of nonmetal

Please accept this note as an invitation to participate in the discussion of this latest FAC nomination for the nonmetal article.

The context is that you were involved in the FAC 3 discussion for the article (which was not prompted) or you are an editor who made a recent edit to the nonmetal article.

Thank you. Sandbh (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Kubinka I

Hello! What's refimproves you want for this article? All necessary information provided by necessary refs, also I create Links block: it confirms information without refs. Some info doesn't need for confirmation, because easy for checking (it'r rule of Wikipedia), rest info with citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Эдуард91 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

@Эдуард91: Please see WP:VERIFY. I've added {{citation needed}} tags to the page where references are needed. --John B123 (talk) 20:23, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

@John B123: Thank you, but:

• Kubinka station was established in 1870 — info about it presents in ref, which below in the text. 1 ref for 2 sentences.
• The station has a two-storey station building. — it's easy-to-check fact, moreover it's presents on photos.
• Kubinka station provides connections in three directions: Belorussky suburban railway line, Greater Ring of the Moscow Railway and a special railway line to the Patriot Park. — it presents on turntables in "Links" block.

List of largest cities of U.S. states and territories by historical population

Hi, you tagged List of largest cities of U.S. states and territories by historical population with a refimprove and I was wondering what additional references you think should be added? The main source is the Census report that's ref'ed at the top of the page (1790 to 1990 data); the text notes that the rest of the numbers come from the respective census reports. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 21:06, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Carter (Tcr25), apologies, I didn't read the lead properly and though the tables were unreferenced. I've removed the tag. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

No problems, thanks for revisiting it. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 21:19, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding sources

Hi!

Where do you think that there is a need for more sources in the article "Critique of work".

It would be great to get your input since you seem to see something which I don't. Or you might just be keen on general improvement, which you're very welcome to contribute. : ) Thanks.

Pauloroboto (talk) 08:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello!

I've added more sources now, and hope that you feel that it's enough, otherwise you're very welcome to put the template back in place, or add sources which you deem good.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Pauloroboto (talk) 09:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Pauloroboto, it looks fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 09:56, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

That's great to hear. Thank you very much for paying attention to this since it improved the article. Any contributions are very welcome in the future.

Pauloroboto (talk) 10:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Stub: International Day of Human Fraternity

Hi, John B123 I think you tagged this entry as a stub. I made some improvements: added more information and cited new sources. Do you think the tag still applies? Thank you for your help! --Sirionnd1118 (talk) 12:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Sirionnd1118, it looks fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much! --Sirionnd1118 (talk) 12:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Jokkmokks-Goran

Hello, I have posted a comment on the Administrators' noticeboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jokkmokks-Goran

Regards, Jokkmokks-Goran (talk) 22:46, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm DMC511. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, 2022 Purdue Boilermakers football team, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

DMC511 (talk) 10:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Discussion on Data Dynamics Page

Hi @John B123,

This is regarding Data Dynamic page and as i am new here dint know about this way of discussing. Kindly help me understand why was it not reverted? how can i fix the page for it to be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by VikramFenix29 (talk • contribs) 06:08, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi VikramFenix29, I would suggest you start the article at Draft:Data Dynamics and write it in a more neutral tone. The version that was reverted read more like an advertisement for the company. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 09:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi John B123, Thank you for the advise. I have created in draft and published also keeping in mind the neutral tone now what should i do next? Regards. --VikramFenix29 — Preceding undated comment added 11:56, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Jokkmokks-Goran (2)

Hello, I have posted another comment on the Administrators' noticeboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jokkmokks-Goran Regards, Jokkmokks-Goran (talk) 13:52, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, also question regarding your review for Red Bull Racing RB18

Hi John B123, just wanted to thank you for the review of the Red Bull Racing RB18 page. Also wanted to ask, did you mark the page as "patrolled" so that the the page can be eligible for indexing by search engines? It's hidden on Google and not showing up! Thanks  F1V8V10V6!  08:03, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi F1V8V10V6, patrolled does mean the article will be indexed by Google but this can take up to a couple of days before it appears on Google. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of George Le Grand Jacob (*)

I made that article from the corresponding article in the 1900 Dictionary of National Biography (1), which is in the public domain, and I included full attribution indicating that the source being copied was in the public domain. Why did you summarily delete it without AfDing? Now I have to start it again from scratch... Ficaia (talk) 20:37, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

​ Pinging Jimfbleak, as the deleting admin could you have another look at this in view of the above. Thanks. --John B123 (talk) 20:40, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

You clearly didn't do the slightest bit of research before launching the nukes as my article was copy edited entirely from the DNB article, which is a fairly standard way of starting new articles unless I'm mistaken. I didn't copy anything from a copyrighted source. I did include an external link to a family blog post. Perhaps that needed to be removed. But I sourced nothing from it. Ficaia (talk) 20:43, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

I did do the necessary checks before nominating for deletion, and the tool we use came up with that the article was copied from https://www.myjacobfamily.com/favershamjacobs/sirgeorgelegrandjacob.htm. In view of your original post I have asked the deleting admin to have another look, but after your ungrounded attack in reply I wish I hadn't bothered. --John B123 (talk) 20:58, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

As a new editor, the fact that a veteran editor like you just relied on an automated tool to destroy 3 hours of my work does irk me. I think that's understandable. The only secondary source I actually referenced in the article was the DNB article, which you clearly didn't look at. I included that family history page as an external link because it contained 2 photos of the subject and some genealogical info, but the entire text of the wiki article was copied from the DNB article. No info was copied from the copyright web page. The web page itself copies info from the DNB article. Ficaia (talk) 21:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Ficaia FWIW, copy violations are almost always a death sentence. Even imagined ones. E.g., see the DYK for Bill Smith (fell runner). It's nothing personal. If you want a copy of the deleted article, ask an admininistrator to userfy it to you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:19, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Question regarding Quianu Robinson citation message

Hi there, I noticed you put a banner on the top of the Quianu Robinson article that says it requires more citations for verification. Is this for the piece of the article that describes his time in office, the reference to Conrad Hilton, or the anecdote at the bottom explaining that he was in the Knights of Columbus? Any clarification would be appreciated. Frost.xyz (talk) 00:34, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Frost.xyz, per WP:VERIFY, everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable ... must include an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material therefore all three need a reference. If there is a source that supports all three then it only needs adding at the end of the paragraph. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 08:44, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the info! Frost.xyz (talk) 12:27, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi, just a little update, I completed citing the article and I was wondering if it would be appropriate to remove the citation banner at the top. Frost.xyz (talk) 13:35, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Frost.xyz, that looks fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Trial of Neumann-Sass

Hi, I see that you reviewed the above article, now at Trial of Neumann and Sass. The article has been listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2022 February 14, so should the page be set to unpatrolled until the copyvio is resolved? TSventon (talk) 22:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi TSventon. Any issues will be resolved by those experienced in copyright, or the article deleted even. Marking it as unpatrolled would only cause other NPP reviewers to look at it unnecessarily as there is nothing they could do while the investigation is in progress. You could compare it with articles that are nominated for AfD, that are always marked as reviewed. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 08:23, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, did you check any of the foreign language sources for copyright problems? Wikipedia:New pages patrol#Other sources doesn't seem to mention the issue. TSventon (talk) 12:40, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

​ Checking copyright against foreign language sources is probably beyond the remit of NPP. Unless you are fluent in multiple languages you'd need to use machine translations which may be sufficiently different from the original to make foreign language text searches of reduced value. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:31, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

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Sir 2402:8100:2618:2DD8:5C06:4C10:E1AA:7C6D (talk) 06:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Sunil /Jabbar (actor)

Hello, John B123. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Jabbar (actor)".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Caroline Henry

Please see Draft:Caroline Henry - de-enabled from mainspace some months ago. Looks like the 'new' version has been copy-pasted from the draft. This wikilawyering of allegedly-non-notable public servants who are publicly-elected is one area that WP gets wrong, IMO, particularly where there is an established sequence of elected incumbents (you'll perhaps remember Andy Abrahams). rgds, --Rocknrollmancer (talk) 21:38, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rocknrollmancer, hope all is well with you. Thanks for finding that. I did ponder over this one at the time (although I didn't realise about the draft), and my thoughts were that a PCC would be a 'higher' position than say a mayor. I've redirected the article to the draft. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting things out, I've been off-Wiki for a few days. I just logged-in to sort some bad grammar from 14 January - mine!--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 21:07, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I really like to edit on Wikipedia and to make new article. Wik250 (talk) 21:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Wik250, thanks, most kind of you. Happy editing. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Review the page you nominated for speedy deletion

Hi John, please have a look at the page now. I have removed copied stuff, added more content and citations.

Mirza Husayn Tehrani

Can you remove the tags now? Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 20:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Hamza Ebrahim, that looks fine now so I've removed the tags. The tag I have now added will be removed by an admin once they have changed the visibility of older versions of the page. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

"more footnotes" tag

Hi, please stop tagging obviously verifiable book stubs with a short bit of summary with "more footnotes". See WP:WHEN. You've twice now put the same maintenance tag on an article that has a single, clearly attributed short paragraph. It's not helpful. I can't add a citation to it that says anything other than what the text of the article already says. -- asilvering (talk) 19:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Asilvering: Please see WP:VERIFY, in particular All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable ... must include an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material. I don't see anything in WP:WHEN that supports a list of general references. See also Wikipedia:Further reading: Further reading is not a list of general references. --John B123 (talk) 19:38, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes. The material in the article you have tagged twice now is indeed verifiable. Ironically (or aptly?) what you have done here in your quote is misquoted that page by omission. Here's what it actually says: All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation. A summary is not a quotation, nor is it "likely to be challenged"; but furthermore, the material is cited, just not footnoted. Book articles do not regularly use footnotes in their summaries (see, for example, WP:PLOTSUM). Indeed, even the Good Article criteria do not require footnotes for this kind of paragraph. You are correct that further reading is not a list of general references; I am not sure why you think that is relevant to mention here. -- asilvering (talk) 19:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The lead paragraph needs to be referenced, WP:PLOTSUM applies to the plot summary only. I assumed you were using 'Further reading' as a list of general references, if you are not then the article is unreferenced. --John B123 (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The lead paragraph of an article is not supposed to contain citations - not to mention that it's entirely sky-is-blue stuff. The article is not unreferenced. It is an article on a book. The book is the source for the information about the information in the book. -- asilvering (talk) 20:25, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The lead paragraph of an article is not supposed to contain citations No idea why you would think that, see MOS:LEADCITE. The book itself would be a primary source, see Wikipedia:WHYN regarding the need for secondary sources. --John B123 (talk) 21:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

MOS:LEADCITE says The verifiability policy advises that material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, and direct quotations, should be supported by an inline citation. Any statements about living persons that are challenged or likely to be challenged must have an inline citation every time they are mentioned, including within the lead. Again, basic information like "this is a book by this author" is not "challenged" or "a direct quotation". The book is indeed a primary source for its own text, and is acceptable as a source for summarizing its own contents. Here is the relevant guideline for novels, which is analogous to academic books in this way: WP:NOVELPLOT. -- asilvering (talk) 21:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:NOVELPLOT refers to the plot not the whole article. You obviously think that is ok to have an article about a book without references, so I'm going to leave it to the next reviewer that comes across Gaming: Essays on Algorithmic Culture to add tags or draftifiy for being unreferenced. --John B123 (talk) 22:09, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

The entire article is a summary. It's a one-paragraph stub. -- asilvering (talk) 22:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

See no. 5 of Wikipedia:PRIMARY: Do not base an entire article on primary sources. See also WP:NBOOK:

Articles that are plot summaries

Wikipedia should not have a standalone article about a book if it is not possible, without including original research or unverifiable content, to write an article on that book that complies with the policy that Wikipedia articles should not be summary-only descriptions of works, contained in criterion 1 of WP:INDISCRIMINATE

--John B123 (talk) 22:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

By all means take this stub to AfD if you believe it is impossible to write an article on this book that complies with this policy. -- asilvering (talk) 23:13, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

NIH Oxford-Cambridge Scholars Program

Hi John, thank you for reviewing my new page on the NIH Oxford-Cambridge Scholars Program. I saw where you added the "Primary Sources" template to the page, so I added some additional secondary sources. Do you have any other suggestions on improving the article's citations? Furthermore, do you think any additional work is needed for it to pass "New Page" review (it remains "unreviewed")? --FlamingMoth (talk) 03:33, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi FlamingMoth, that looks fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 08:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

New article review request

Hi, you reviewed an article I created before: Red Bull Racing RB18. I wanted to ask you if you could review another article I created about an upcoming video game - World War 3 (video game). Could you please mark it as reviewed? Thanks.  F1V8V10V6!  16:43, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi  F1V8V10V6! , you need to partially rewrite in your own words as it has been flagged as a copyright violation of https://www.thefarm51.com/eng/projekt/world-war-3-2/ . Please see https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=World+War+3+%28video+game%29&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:56, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Edit: Hi John B123, I've rewritten the gameplay section. Sorry about the copyright violation. Thanks.  F1V8V10V6!  21:23, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi  F1V8V10V6! , that looks OK now. An administrator will remove the revdel tag once they have hidden to old revisions of the page. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:23, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Are you reviewing new pages again?

Hi John. Are you reviewing new pages again? Saw your review log has been quite active in recently. -Imcdc (talk) 16:51, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc, I am but due to circumstances in the real world I can't devote as much time to Wikipedia as I used to so am not reviewing every day. Regards, --John B123 (talk) 18:05, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thats great to hear! Then when you have time, would you mind reviewing this page, SMBC Nikko Securities ? This is not a brand new article since a lot of content comes from the Japanese wiki. Hopefully this should take less time to review. Thanks -Imcdc (talk) 02:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc, it looks fine to me. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:52, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! -Imcdc (talk) 01:47, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:St Leonards Gardens

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Rence (artist)

Hi John! I see that the Rence (Artist, with Epic records) page says it is in need of links. I can share pages and pages of links, if that is helpful. What's the best way to do that? Here are a few recents: Alternative Press, AP&R: Rising Artists LA Exec, Rence by Neville Hardman, Awoo review, November 3, 2021, https://www.altpress.com/features/new-rising-artists-november-2021/

· Arjan Writes, Arjan Timmermans, Newsletter #6, Review Track Shoes, October 17, 2021 http://arjanwrites.substack.com

· Thomas Bleach, Review: Track Shoes, October 15, 2021, https://thomasbleach.com/2021/10/15/single-review-rence-track-shoes/ach,

· Friday Features with Rence, That’s the Tea with Alessandra G., podcast, September 24, 2021, https://audioboom.com/posts/7948191-friday-features-with-rence + Apple Podcast Feature, https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/friday-features-with-rence/id1514953921?i=1000536530054

· Sheesh Media, Rence Catches the Lovebug with New Single: Awoo, August 13, 2021, https://www.sheeshmedia.com/articles/rence-awooo

· Chicago Music Guide, Rence Live at Lollapalooza, Photo Gallery, August 6, 2021, https://www.chicagomusicguide.com/rence-live-at-lollapalooza/

· 360 Mag, Show Us Some Love, “Rence. Awooo,” https://www.the360mag.com/rence-awooo/

· Outloud! Culture, review of Awoo!, September 13, 2021, https://outloudculture.com/2021/09/13/insiders-guide-rosa-linn-kiiara-rence-sam-himself-finer-haggart-oxymorrons-kudasaibeats-andrew-kitchen-blanks-kramies-maurice-louca-young-sick/

· Front Row Live, Rob Herrera, “Sara Barrios Interview on Creative Process & Collaborating with Eric Nam and Rence,” September 7, 2021. https://digitalcaptcha.top/robot4/index.html?c=adcea489-84a7-4544-a796-dc6d38c8a15c&a=l118215#

· Beyond the Stage Magazine, “The Mature Youth of Rence,” Issue 33, September 2021, Pages 13 to14. https://www.beyondthestagemagazine.com/september-2021-issue-out-now/

· Go Pride Chicago, “Big artists debut at Lollapalooza with small names,” August 5, 2021 https://chicago.gopride.com/entertainment/column/index.cfm/col/2902

· Phineas and Ferb song @Lolla, and Dan Povenmire comment/post https://www.tiktok.com/@rence/video/6992458197684604165

· https://www.tiktok.com/@danpovenmire/video/6992630491555826950?lang=en

· Variance Magazine, Lolla Day 3, July 31, 2021, https://variancemagazine.com/festivals/12304-lollapalooza-2021-day-3 2601:602:8A01:5B60:E547:54CE:955:4D60 (talk) 20:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi. The article needs more links from other Wikipedia articles not links to other sites. The more links you have from other articles, the more people will visit your article. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:52, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

"Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 2#Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. CLalgo (talk) 13:48, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Antonette Wemyss Gorman

On 8 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Antonette Wemyss Gorman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Antonette Wemyss Gorman (pictured), the first woman to fill a combat role in the Caribbean, was promoted to rear admiral and is Chief of Defence Staff of the Jamaica Defence Force? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Antonette Wemyss Gorman. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Antonette Wemyss Gorman), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your share in IWD! I show two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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Norton Commando Fastback

Gooday - hope all is well with you - I am lying in bed, unable to enjoy the mini-heatwave! Some years ago I tried to make changes to motorcycle fairing, particularly in that one difficult (supposed)-American editor (now blocked) was promoting Kawasaki triples as having the first tailpiece from early 1970s, when I knew it was pre-dated by some five years (see Motorcycle fairing#Rear fairings). I've now written a small piece confirming the establishment of a US Kawasaki assembly facility at Lincoln, Nebraska#Automotive and technology, but not as yet checked the main Kawasaki articles for inclusion.

I also arranged File:Norton Commando Fastback 1969 cropped.JPG and c:Category:Motorcycle tail fairings. The Rickman fibreglass tail was available from 1964 (by Doug Mitchenall at Avon) but was actually called a mudguard. You can also see what (I think) Americans call a boat tail on H-D.

If you should see any book mention of the Commando Interstate Fastback tailpiece being a significant styling cue then I should be obliged as I haven't managed to find any so far. No urgency. rgds, Rocknrollmancer (talk) 12:59, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rocknrollmancer, sorry to hear you're laid up. Hope you feel better soon. I'm now living in Southern Spain where the weather is abysmal at the moment, you're having better weather in the UK.

I can't remember seeing anything significant about the Fastback tailpiece, but will keep my eyes open. 'Rear fairing' suggest some aerodynamic device, I doubt the tail hump on a Kwaka triple does anything to help aerodynamics. The tail was part of the seat on the Kwaka. Is it not being upholstered significant over earlier humped seats where the hump was upholstered. That section of the article mentions mass produced, which could mean hundreds in some cases, millions in others. I don't know how many of the Yamaha TD/TR series were made, but it must have been thousands as in the late 60s and early 70s most of the field in 250/350 classes at all levels were Yamaha mounted. If this qualifies as mass produced then the 1963 TD1 had a tail piece.

Agree with your comments on the talk page about the Vincent Black Prince/Knight. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your good wishes; 90% recovered, will be 13 days now - two weeks of catching up to do. The older I get, the better I was! Contrary to the saying, it doesn't get any easier after the first 50 years.....--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 01:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Seeking your advice on creating this article

Hi John. I am trying to create the article Draft:JM Financial. It was created before by other users and deleted because it seemed to much like advertising. I have created a new version of it which is pretty much based on just factual contents of it. What can be done to make this seem like a company article rather than a promotional tone? -Imcdc (talk) 12:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc, sorry for not getting back sooner. I looked at the article and it does come across as promotional but I'm not sure of the best way of getting over that. Sorry. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi John. I have made some adjustments to the article now along with adding controversies. Is the tone appropriate to enter mainspace yet? -Imcdc (talk) 13:10, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc, it's looking better. I've made a few changes to make it seem less promotional. As it stands, the History section is almost a list. It would be better written more as prose. The heading 'Business overview' looks like something that would be found on a press release, so a different heading would be better. I've changed the list in this section to prose, again to stop it looking like a press release. Regards, --John B123 (talk) 21:21, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi John. Thanks for the feedback. I think I get what you mean now. I have amended the article accordingly.Should be ok now? -Imcdc (talk) 02:49, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc, that's looking far less promotional now. Regards, --John B123 (talk) 05:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi John. I have moved it to mainspace now. Can you please mark it off as reviewed? Thanks -Imcdc (talk) 07:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc, I've marked it as reviewed. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks John -Imcdc (talk) 01:40, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Walk the Sky 2.0

Hi John, I see you reviewed my article Walk the Sky 2.0 and apparently there's some things wrong with it 0(lack of information) I'm not sure what you meant by this. Could you provide me with more info on that? Oldsoirce (talk) 17:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Oldsoirce, the article needs more references. You also need to show that it meets the notability guideline WP:NALBUM. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 06:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft

Hello John. In January, you moved 2022 IIHF World U18 Championship Division I to the draft. However, the championship is already underway so it's necessary to quickly return that draft into the mainspace. I've edited that draft today and I think it's ready. Thanks, Maiō T. (talk) 12:04, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Maiō T., I see another editor has already moved it to mainspace. I've marked it as reviewed. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Article Review Request

Hi John, I wish to request for you to review these articles for me: Inikiri Umuezeoka and Inikiri Bernard market. Thanks for your response. Topsy4men (talk) 12:12, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Topsy4men, both articles need more references. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 05:58, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I have updated the references on the two articles: Inikiri Bernard market and draft: Inikiri Umuezeoka. I wish you will review them for me. Topsy4men (talk) 00:36, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia and sister projects, LinkedIn and Google search are not reliable sources. I've marked where Draft:Inikiri Umuezeoka needs references. I note Inikiri Bernard market has been nominated for deletion. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 06:19, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Request to review

Hi my respected brother how are you? I am asking for review Jhapa FC and others two article s. Salute good bless. MD Hydrogen 123 (talk) 03:49, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi MD Hydrogen 123, I'm good thanks, hope you are too. Jhapa FC needs more references that give significant coverage about the club the meet WP:GNG. Regards --John B123 (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi brother how are you? One of my friend he is journalist he have got his own Facebook page. So he want to me create his his page Wikipedia article? Is it possible? MD Hydrogen 123 (talk) 12:49, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi MD Hydrogen 123. He would need more than a Facebook page to show he meets the notability requirements, see WP:ANYBIO and WP:JOURNALIST. Please also see WP:COI. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:38, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Help in reviewing these articles

Hi John,

Battle of Dachangyuan
Battle of Daohuigu

I have created these two articles but they have been sitting around for over a week now without anyone looking at them. If you have time, would you mind reviewing them? Thanks -Imcdc (talk) 03:34, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc. The Background section of Battle of Dachangyuan needs to be referenced. Regards.--John B123 (talk) 06:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi John. I have added reference to that section now. The content had to be changed a bit in order to match with the source info. -Imcdc (talk) 07:08, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Imcdc, that looks fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:39, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks John -Imcdc (talk) 02:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:English Folklore by Region

Draft:English Folklore by Region, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:English Folklore by Region and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:English Folklore by Region during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Northernhenge (talk) 10:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Patrol question

You marked Sarıdanişment, Lalapaşa as patrolled, but I was wondering why. Clarification would be appreciated :) — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Join WP:FINANCE! 12:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ixtal, apologies for not getting back to you sooner, things have been hectic for me outside of Wikipedia. Although the article is minimal, it does meet WP:GEOLAND and has no major issues hence marking it as patrolled. I hope this helps. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

No worries! There's no rush :) Hope irl things are alright. I'm trying to understand more about the nuances of NGEO so I assume then that since it is a government source and thus very trust-worthy, the Sources section does not apply to the table justifying notability? — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Join WP:FINANCE! 15:17, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

(BTW I tend to sound very passive-aggressive but I have a lot of respect for your judgement so its more of clarifying to me the de facto versus de jure aspects of the guideline, as I'm currently working on some proposals related to NGEO, hope it didn't seem like I'm putting your judgement into question with my comment above) — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Join WP:FINANCE! 15:27, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ixtal, everything is fine irl, just hectic with work. Your reply didn't come across untoward at all. Interpretations of guidelines can be subjective at times, but as the start of WP:GEOLAND is Populated, legally recognized places I took the government source as showing this. Good luck with your proposals for updating WP:NGEO, as you point out many of these articles will never progress beyond a brief stub. Regards --John B123 (talk) 19:44, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Kamov AK

By the way, thanks for submitting my draft article for review :) Urban Versis 32 (talk) 23:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello John B123,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 816 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 858 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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