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Alternative 'Referencing for Beginners'
Hi. Some while back you suggested I stopped moaning about WP:REFBEGIN, and created my own help page. I told you I was already working on it. Take a look at User:Nick Moyes/Easier Referencing for Beginners, and feel free to give me any feedback. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:51, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Nick Moyes: I think it looks great. I hope it will help newbies learn how to reference. Interstellarity (talk) 00:23, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Nick Moyes (talk) 05:25, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which
applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories
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- Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which
Technical news
- As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.
Arbitration
- The 2019 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place October 4th to 10th.
- The arbitration case regarding Fram was closed. While there will be a local RfC
focus[ing] on how harassment and private complaints should be handled in the future
, there is currently a global community consultation on partial and temporary office actions in response to the incident. It will be open until October 30th.
Miscellaneous
- The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.
This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2019)
Hello, Interstellarity.
The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Aaron Fechter • Satellite galaxy Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 7 October 2019 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • |
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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 9
News and updates associated with user scripts from the past two months (August and September, 2019).
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Hello everyone and welcome to the 9th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:
Sorry for falling behind a bit. Please let me know if I missed any new scripts. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC) |
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status chek
I can't find the icon for status check, where is the icon or link that shows you the status? thanks --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 22:56, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- It's in the bottom left. Interstellarity (talk) 22:57, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- On the bottom near the media wiki logo? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 22:59, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- It's on the bottom left regardless of where you scroll on the page. It will light up green and say online if online, but it will light up red when offline if offline. Interstellarity (talk) 23:01, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- I am not getting anything here, must be the cookies and the cache. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:03, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: Install it in your common.js and you'll get it. Interstellarity (talk) 23:07, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, and i did not get the ping, strange... --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:09, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- I am only getting it for my username on the contribs tab, but when i click on your page, i can now see it, thanks. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:11, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, and i did not get the ping, strange... --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:09, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: Install it in your common.js and you'll get it. Interstellarity (talk) 23:07, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- I am not getting anything here, must be the cookies and the cache. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 23:03, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- It's on the bottom left regardless of where you scroll on the page. It will light up green and say online if online, but it will light up red when offline if offline. Interstellarity (talk) 23:01, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- On the bottom near the media wiki logo? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 22:59, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2019)
_passes_through_the_Strait_of_Magellan,_1_July_1990_(6475056).jpg) The U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser USS Josephus Daniels (CG-27) maneuvers around an island as it passes through the Strait of Magellan en route to Punte Arenas, Chile, on 1 July 1990, during exercise "Unitas XXXI", a combined exercise involving the naval forces of the United States and nine South American nations.
The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Frenemy • Aaron Fechter Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:15, 14 October 2019 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • |
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Requests for unprotection
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Can you please remove the creation protection from User:Interstellarity/Draftify log? I have added a line in my common.js file that prevents logging of a script. Interstellarity (talk) 13:57, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Done ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:09, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2019)
The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Strait of Magellan • Frenemy Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 21 October 2019 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • |
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TheWikiWizard - October 2019
Hello, Interstellarity! Here is the September 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.
- What's Hot! (Turkey Overload, Federal Election...)
- Articles (Cite reliable sources!)
- The Wikipedian
- News about Wikipedia! (Wikipedia News and Events!)
- Editor's Notes (New Main Page Planning)
- Activity Page (Fun Activities, and answers to last time's questions...)
- Ads (Cool Ads)
We hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 02:05, 23 October 2019 (UTC) on behalf of DannyS712 (talk)
Thinking of taking this to GA. Please take a look. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:23, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- What made you want to decide to ask me? I'm not an expert in this kind of topic on Wikipedia. Try asking at WP:GAHELP. Interstellarity (talk) 18:47, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
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- I tried to ping this user and it does not work. Any help? Interstellarity (talk) 18:47, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note that the username contains an equals sign, which the parser sees as dividing a parameter name and a parameter value. Inserting 1= in front ("1" because it's the first parameter) might fix it, but I'm a bit uncertain how the user's name has to be given in order for the ping to work.
{{ping|1=7&6=thirteen}}is my best guess. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 21:08, 25 October 2019 (UTC) - Indeed.
{{u|1=7&6=thirteen}}will give 7&6=thirteen, if you want to go the template route. As an alternative, manually linking to the user page (as in[[User:7&6=thirteen|7&6=thirteen]]) of course also works. Huon (talk) 21:23, 25 October 2019 (UTC)- I stumbled upon your User and talk page. Noted your interest in geography and your membership in Wikipedia's article for improvement. Since I substantailly reworked this article last week (when it was listed in WP:TAFI, I thought you were a likely collaborator. Was I wrong? Or was it kismet? And Serendipity? Only you can answer. Ciao. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:29, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- It seems that at least one of the pings worked, but even a nowiki tag doesn't prevent basic elements like ampersand from being translated. So there's a remaining distance between what one types and what one sees. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 21:43, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- For future reference, I recommend [[User:7&6=thirteen]] I am a Luddite and have been using this User name going on 12 years. So I won't change. I apologize for any inconvenience. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:49, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- It seems that at least one of the pings worked, but even a nowiki tag doesn't prevent basic elements like ampersand from being translated. So there's a remaining distance between what one types and what one sees. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 21:43, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- I stumbled upon your User and talk page. Noted your interest in geography and your membership in Wikipedia's article for improvement. Since I substantailly reworked this article last week (when it was listed in WP:TAFI, I thought you were a likely collaborator. Was I wrong? Or was it kismet? And Serendipity? Only you can answer. Ciao. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:29, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note that the username contains an equals sign, which the parser sees as dividing a parameter name and a parameter value. Inserting 1= in front ("1" because it's the first parameter) might fix it, but I'm a bit uncertain how the user's name has to be given in order for the ping to work.
the removal of the "Shooting of Quintanio LeGrier and Bettie Jones"
Hello Interstellarity, As requested, I supplied the info for the "copyrighted text" under the page that said, "You believe it is not copyrighted material because ..." however, after writing it in detail I cannot find it now, and I am not sure where to look for it and analyse it? The FOIA lists the sharing of public records FOIA from the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, and except for mental health treatments, custody battles, etc., are all public entitlement. I emailed the Cook County State's Attorney's office who corroborated the public access, and affirmed that specific approval was not necessary. The statement in question was from the assistant DA as to why there were no charges pressed against Officer Rialmo. Everyone had seen it: the press, the public. This led to the civil wrongful death by the family:
http://www.cookcountyclerkofcourt.org/CourtCaseSearch/DocketSearch.aspx
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=rialmo+cook+county
https://www.cookcountystatesattorney.org/sites/default/files/files/documents/quintonio.pdf
With all due respect, Cheers, Eli Bigeez (talk) 21:12, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Bigeez: Your page was deleted because it appeared that you copied and pasted the content in a Wikipedia article. This is not acceptable. If you wish to bring the article back, please see WP:REFUND. If I could be of any further assistance place let me know. Thank you, Interstellarity (talk) 21:17, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hello Interstellarity (talk), could it be that at the same time I was writing the reasons for ..., you were deleting it? This is perplexing, to the say the least. In any event, if you feel I could paraphrase it, ok. Cheers, Eli Bigeez (talk) 21:18, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Bigeez: The best person to contact regarding this matter is the deleting administrator who is RHaworth. You can contact him on his talk page and he will be able to help you. Interstellarity (talk) 21:23, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Tagging of Earth (Artists for the World song)
You tagged Tagging of Earth (Artists for the World song) for speedy deletion as a copyvio, and it did indeed include an excessive amount to copied content. When you encounter such an article, but there is enough non-copyvio content tom k=make at least a decent stub (and the topic seems notable) it is often better to remove the infringing text, and use {{copyvio-revdel}} to as an admin to do revision deletion to remove the copyvios from the history. I have done such a removal and revdel on this article. Thanks for chefcking for copyright violations. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 19:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Much the same situation applies to Island Home (anthem) complicated there by text released under a CC-BY license. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 19:38, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @DESiegel: I'm currently being trained by CASSIOPEIA to be a AFC reviewer. I've been tagging articles for speedy deletion, but most of them get declined. How can I determine whether an article is G11 or G12? Interstellarity (talk) 19:53, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- G11 is very much a judgement call. A key question is would the article (or draft) need to be fundamentally rewritten to achieve neutrality; if jerking out puffery, even reducing to a stup, leaves a non-promotional valid page, it isn't a G11, in my view. Note that some admins are more ready to delete on G11 grounds than I am.
- As for G12, these were valid G12 tags. But note that wp:CSD#G12 says:
This applies to text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving. Only if the history is unsalvageably corrupted should it be deleted in its entirety; earlier versions without infringement should be retained.
The copyvio content must go, that is not in question. But by looking at the copyvio detection report (or comparing with the source manually), and taking more time and trouble, an editor can in many cases, including the ones above, remove all the copyvio content, and do or request a revision deletion to remove it from the history, and still be left with a valid article or draft. That is going a step beyond finding a copyvio and placing a G12 tag, but in my view gives a batter result.
- And in the case of Island Home (anthem), the cited source which had been copied from included a release under a CC-BY license right on the source page, and this was mentioned in the history. Do please check the history when tagging for G12 (or G11). If there is a clean version to revert to, do it, and ask for revdel on the G12.
- Is that helpful? DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 20:20, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @DESiegel: Yes, thanks for the in-depth explanation. Interstellarity (talk) 20:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Gospel of Mark (intertextuality) is another case which you tagged for G12. It includes {{Free-content attribution}} at the end of the sources section. The presence of such an acknowledge of use of open-source content means that a simple G12 tag is not appropriate unless you have checked and find the attribution incorrect or the licensees not applicable or not compatible. Double and triple checking is needed when this sort of license claim is on the article. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 20:42, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @DESiegel: This is my training page: User:CASSIOPEIA/NPPSchool/Interstellarity. I am trying to do assignments 3, 7, and 9. If you could of any further assistance I would appreciate that. Interstellarity (talk) 21:07, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Very interesting. I like the training exercises. One thing about G12, it can be for anything copied from any protected source, such as a book or newspaper, not just a web site, although we see far more copies from web sources than anything else. Of course if the content is PD or released under a compatible license, it is not a G12. And limited quotes may be used without permission if attributed and cited. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:42, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @DESiegel: This is my training page: User:CASSIOPEIA/NPPSchool/Interstellarity. I am trying to do assignments 3, 7, and 9. If you could of any further assistance I would appreciate that. Interstellarity (talk) 21:07, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Copyright violations
How do you come to the conclusion that The Nibroc Trilogy and Climate change and agriculture in the United States are copyright violations of this article about the Gospel of Mark? Phil Bridger (talk) 21:12, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hello Phil Bridger, I don't recall saying that these were copyright violations. I have been checking articles for copyright violations as part of my training course in NPPSchool. Interstellarity (talk) 21:20, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- I'm surprised that you don't recall it, but if you take a look at the histories of those two articles you will see that you tagged them both in the last few hours as copyright violations of that "Gospel of Mark" text. Please be more careful. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:24, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will try to be more careful. Interstellarity (talk) 21:27, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- I'm surprised that you don't recall it, but if you take a look at the histories of those two articles you will see that you tagged them both in the last few hours as copyright violations of that "Gospel of Mark" text. Please be more careful. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:24, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Per Gospel of Mark (intertextuality), you missed the Template:Free-content attribution under "Sources" section. WP is also "Free-content" but with a "Share-alike (SA)" requirement. --2db (talk) 00:26, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 44, 2019)
 The audience at Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of the Grateful Dead in Chicago, Illinois, July 2015
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