User talk:Graham Beards/archives/2020

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I don't know how to handle your edits since you brutally reverts before reading discussions and quest for reasonable concensus / Admin tool abuseEdit

Yug (talk) 12:06, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Basicaly, I'am proposing serious solutions and you keep hammering reverts before engaging in discussion. The state of the template before your arrival was inclusive of covid19, you are single handlely removing it, and brutally forcing your concensus preference. Yug (talk) 12:10, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi there is no consensus on the Talk Page to erroneously add coronavirus to a table about influenza. Please stop your disruptive edits. We have enough challenges with covering this pandemic as it is.Graham Beards (talk) 12:12, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
It wasn't a template about influenza alone when you arrived, the table-title was clear on that, an the renaming discussion was opened. What more do you need ? You are single handly dragging in back and claiming your preference canonical. You also shoot down compromise solutions. Are you just looking to create a conflict ? Yug (talk) 12:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Or maybe you consider you are all knowledgeable and are therefore allowed to revert well build contents before engaging in discussion. You tell me, because this level of brutal jump in, reverts, limited discussion or compromise is quite rare. Yug (talk) 12:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
You are abusing your admin tools:
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
Your username or IP address is blocked from doing this. You may still be able to do other things on this site, such as editing certain pages. You can view the full block details at account contributions.
The block was made by ‪Graham Beards‬.
The reason given is Disruptive editing.
Start of block: 2020-03-20T12:17:47
Expiration of block: 2020-04-20T12:17:47
Intended blockee: ‪Yug‬
Block ID #9679113
Yug (talk) 12:25, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I full protected the page, but generally agree that it’s not best to block someone you appear to be in a dispute with. TonyBallioni (talk) 12:58, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
I agree. But we have a responsibility to prevent false information feeding the global concern over this crisis.Graham Beards (talk) 13:10, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Graham, the fact you are each time acting hastily and changing position isn't helping. I still don't get what is your sincere position on the renaming issue and you blocked your content-dispute opponent and the author of 96% of the template from keeping it updated while the solution I was proposing was honestly a win-win (I can maintain/source the template;template displayed to reader is like your preference;scope discussion goes on) until we get more input and reach a concensus.
TonyBallioni, be clear, I (former admin) consider Graham's action to be abuse of admin tools within a content dispute and you are supporting it, both of you because you fly over this page without getting time to get involved, therefor top-down preventing ground editors from doing their normal work. That's really not helping anyone, and I will have to call for review/arbitrage of this block because it abusively prevent maintenance of the template. Time lost for the community. Yug (talk) 17:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)... May I respectfully opine that the reason you think this is an "abuse of admin tools" is because you are the aggrieved in this situation. CassiantoTalk 17:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Cassianto I've been admin before. Admins are not expected to use admin power to fast-settle a 1 vs 1 vote in their favor. Graham's level of engagement is far below necessary. His WP:TW-based hasty reverts also reverted relevant edits (references distribution to avoid later confusion) because he didn't inspect the edits-changes. I understand overworking and all classic administrator burden, but here, Graham is misusing admin tools, not reviewing what he reverts, I'am still not sure he has read a productive compromise : making the covid row invisible to the larger public; allowing normal content improvements; continue discussion on renaming with him and others (?). These are not proper usage of admin power. It's up to us ex-admin and experienced users to speak out so the admin slow down a bit and don't abuse admin tools with many others. Wikipedia would be a better.
(As for aggrieved party : yes, the template still has 3 content-quality questions I identified to settle but... Graham used his admin tools to settle the renaming vote fast, within minutes, in his favor. Therefor I'am on this user_talk page, I lost 6 brain-hours today, Graham 45mins, you 20min, bits on WM servers kills baby seals. We are wasting everyone's time.) Yug (talk) 21:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
All I did was protect the template, which I think was warranted. I don't think he should have blocked you, but I get his point of view (I also stand by my view that the use of partial blocks never helps a situation and that if a full block isn't warranted, a partial one certainly isn't, but that's a minority view.) If you want to be unblocked, you should make an appeal on your talk page like normal where someone will review it. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:41, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
TonyBallioni I will do yes, thanks for the hint. I'am lowly aware of those procedures here on wiki-EN. Yug (talk) 21:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

You are blocked from editing just one page. You can appeal the block on your Talk Page perhaps by explaining why you want to edit that page. (See Wikipedia:Appealing a block Graham Beards (talk) 18:36, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Same, will do. Still a waste of time. If you are overworking lay back and just vote or call for more votes. Hasty block is really not helping anyone and it diminish your adminship. Yug (talk) 21:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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