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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello Extraordinary Writ,
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Hello, Extraordinary Writ,
I'm not exactly sure about the pages you just restored but you have to remember to remove CSD, PROD or AFD tags from articles you restore or they just become subject to deletion again. Thanks and have a good Valentine's Day! Liz Read! Talk! 08:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Liz—now dealt with. Usually User:SD0001/RFUD-helper takes care of that for me, but this time there were so many pages that I had to use Twinkle's batch-undelete, which I now realize doesn't remove deletion tags at all. Happy Valentine's Day to you too! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Guta Moura Guedes
Hello, Extraordinary Writ, I am following instructions on the page "Creating Guta Moura Guedes". I have been working very hard on the page since you deleted it at 23:35 on 6 February 2023. When I published it I was expecting it to go to Draft Space and then I would get help from editors but it went live straight away. I totally agree with the comments made by UtherSRG on 6 Feb, I had relied far too heavily on pages written by the subject. I believe that I have now found far better references and have used encyclopedic language, with a greatly improve tone and voice. I feel RichardDehn (talk) 20:57, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry!! I think that it now has the feel of an article written from a neutral point of view. I can confirm that I do not know the subject and was prompted to write the article as I enjoyed reading her weekly articles (I have an interest in design and I am learning Portuguese). I was surprised when I went to look that she didn't have a wiki page. I have learned an awful lot in the last couple of weeks about the subject and creating wiki pages!! Thank you for your time. Richard Dehn RichardDehn (talk) 21:04, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi RichardDehn. I didn't actually delete your page: I just deleted something called a "redirect", which got left behind when someone moved your page to draftspace. Your page is still at Draft:Guta Moura Guedes, where you've submitted it for review. Someone will eventually come along to review it, but this can take a while, so I'd just suggest being patient. (Sometimes pages are reviewed within a few days or even hours, but other times it can take as long as a few months.) Thanks for all your work on the draft, and let me know if you have any questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:31, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the speedy reply!! I'll carry on working on it while I'm waiting. I might have to find another subject as I have got a bit addicted. I also read that "coding" staves of altzheimers!! Perhaps it's too late for me!! RichardDehn (talk) 21:37, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi RichardDehn. I didn't actually delete your page: I just deleted something called a "redirect", which got left behind when someone moved your page to draftspace. Your page is still at Draft:Guta Moura Guedes, where you've submitted it for review. Someone will eventually come along to review it, but this can take a while, so I'd just suggest being patient. (Sometimes pages are reviewed within a few days or even hours, but other times it can take as long as a few months.) Thanks for all your work on the draft, and let me know if you have any questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:31, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey, Extraordinary Writ,
I hope you are doing well. I hope if you return to Wikipedia tonight, you could delete this PROD'd article. I would but I nominated the article for deletion so I am involved. The other admins that I know who review PRODs regularly usually are active 6-8 hours from now but I know you deal with PRODs so I thought I'd ask you in case you come back to Wikipedia to do some admin work tonight. Thanks! Or thanks to any talk-page stalker who comes across this message and handles this deletion. ;-) Liz Read! Talk! 03:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello Extraordinary Writ
Hello Extraordinary Writ, Thanks for being my mentor. TheEditorPro (talk) 04:22, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Kings and Crosses
Hey, Extraordinary Writ
Can you please check and guide who can approve these changes? Change TheEditorPro (talk) 04:31, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, TheEditorPro, and welcome to Wikipedia! Since I only speak English, I can only approve edits in the English-language Wikipedia, not the Hungarian one. It looks like the Hungarian Wikipedia has more than 20,000 unapproved pages, so there might be a long wait. If you need an urgent review, I think you can try leaving a message at hu:Wikipédia:Járőrök üzenőfala, which seems to be the patrollers' noticeboard. Hopefully this is helpful! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:46, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Deleted Draft:Orbiting-particle system force that is pulled straight inwardly into infinity..
You already deleted this page once, per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Orbiting-particle system force that is pulled straight inwardly into infinity. Since recreated by author. Delete and salt? Every interaction with user seems WP:NOTHERE and possibly WP:CIR. I don't want to speculate that they may have a medical issue or disability, but their answers often make no sense, much like the article. But it's either that or they are a blatant troll. See this one as an example, their only one not connected with this draft. Heiro 03:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like the deletion has already been taken care of. If you see any more disruption after your final warning, let me know and I'll just block. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- About the time of the above, I had offered one last warning/suggestion here. Figured, give them rope and lets see where they run. They disappeared for a few and then popped back up today with this expansion of their deleted nuttery they recreated yet again but in a sandbox and what is more worrying, they began posting their nuttery to article talkpages [1].
- And now blocked. Not sure whether it's deliberate disruption or just a competence issue, but I guess it doesn't really matter. Thanks for letting me know! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- About the time of the above, I had offered one last warning/suggestion here. Figured, give them rope and lets see where they run. They disappeared for a few and then popped back up today with this expansion of their deleted nuttery they recreated yet again but in a sandbox and what is more worrying, they began posting their nuttery to article talkpages [1].
Deletion review for O'Mega Red
An editor has asked for a deletion review of O'Mega Red. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Shaintoth (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
- Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
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- The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.
Arbitration
- Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
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- A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.
Miscellaneous
- The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
- Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
- The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a
[p]roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing
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Please move a draft because I can't according to my topic ban
If you can please move the page Draft:Laughter in the Dark to Draft:Laughter in the Dark (upcoming film). Bruno Vargas Eñe'ẽ avec moi 15:24, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, Bruno Rene Vargas, done. I believe you're still allowed to make requests at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests, so you might want to ask there if you have any other pages that need to be moved. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Talk:Sesame Workshop funding sources
Thanks for restoring Talk:Sesame Workshop funding sources. I was thinking it would make sense to leave it in this state, since then the GA subpage Talk:Sesame Workshop funding sources/GA1 would have somewhere to live, but I see you converted it to a redirect. I'm really not sure how to resolve this -- I just posted a query to WT:GAN about this page and two similar ones. Would it make more sense to unredirect this, do you think? Or should the old GA be jammed into the article history of the merge target page? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think you're right, Mike Christie: the GA information wouldn't make any sense on the merge target page since it has its own GA/FA history. I've reverted, although the GA template still needs to be taken care of. Thanks so much for all the work you're doing with these old GAs! (And always remember: if you ever get tired of asking for help, there are a whole bunch of people who would be very happy to see you at WP:RFA...) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I appreciate the compliment...never say never, but I have no current plans to run. I'll add in the GA details to that page tomorrow when I'm less sleepy; thanks for reverting that. And I'll probably take the same approach with the two or three others like this, so I may be back to ask for a couple more undeletes. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:57, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Could you also undelete Talk:Tropical Storm Norma (2005)? The GA subpage was Talk:Tropical Storm Norma (2005)/GA1 and the article is now merged to 2005 Pacific hurricane season. I'd like to get that GA re-attached to its talk page. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:30, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done, Mike Christie. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:39, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Lettler's articles
Hi! So, weird situation this one. User:Lettler was originally blocked as a sockpuppet of User:HughD. However, they were later unblocked by ARBCOM as it was determined that they were not a sockpuppet and the ban was incorrectly done in the first place. I'm happy for Lettler there, though sadly it appears this incident is likely to have driven them from the project, as they haven't edited since except to add this to their userpage. Regardless, I've been going through their edit history and looking at what articles of theirs were deleted under G5 and requesting undeletion. For those you were involved in that would be these:
- Bill Healey (footballer)
- Cliff Edwards (footballer)
- David Edwards (footballer, born 1974)
- Rononia
- SS Angarstroy
Could you undelete these? Several of them (maybe all of them?) are probably just redirects, but it's hard for me to tell which from my end of things. SilverserenC 21:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- These should all be restored now, Silver seren—thanks for letting me know. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:26, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Vineet Kumar Chaudhary
Hii, I have added more than 10 reliable sources in this draft and better defined the artist's work. Is it worth to move mainspace? Let me know if you have any suggestions? Thanks in Advance ✨ Wiki97828 (talk) 15:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Wiki97828. It looks like you've successfully submitted the draft for review, so I'd just suggest waiting for a reviewer to take a look. Right now, most drafts are getting reviewed in three months or less, so since you've already been waiting for over a month, you probably won't have to wait for too much longer. (Apologies for the delay: there are thousands of drafts in the queue, so it takes a while for reviewers to get to them all!) As long as you don't have a conflict of interest, you are allowed to move the draft directly to mainspace, but I think waiting for a review is the best idea. Hope this helps! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Can I move it to mainspace myself? because I think it's worth moving to mainspace 🙏 Wiki97828 (talk) 03:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wiki97828, as long as you don't have a conflict of interest, yes: see Help:How to move a page for instructions, and let me know if you need any help. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:09, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- yesterday I moved this draft to page. but someone reviewer said "you can not create this page" and he moved this page again to draftspace without telling any reason. I asked him then he not given any kind of reason/answer.
- I request to you, please help in this metter and suggest me how to improve this page.
- thanks🙏 Wiki97828 (talk) 01:33, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wiki97828, it looks like another reviewer has now approved your draft. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:33, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- thank you sir for urs suggestions nd support.. 🙏 Wiki97828 (talk) 08:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hii Sir, An editor has added the tag of Undisclosed paid to this page but it is not true. This page has been created after a thorough study of the information taken from various sources. This is my favorite zone, so it is good to write related to it. I do not believe in any fee for this.. Please help to remove this tag Wiki97828 (talk) 13:35, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wiki97828, I'd suggest asking the user who added the tag, User:Onel5969. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:34, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. I'm sorry, but there are clear indications that you have some relationship with the article's subject. So you need to read WP:COI and WP:COI, figure out which one better applies to you, and follow the instructions there. Onel5969 TT me 22:39, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wiki97828, it looks like another reviewer has now approved your draft. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:33, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wiki97828, as long as you don't have a conflict of interest, yes: see Help:How to move a page for instructions, and let me know if you need any help. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:09, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Can I move it to mainspace myself? because I think it's worth moving to mainspace 🙏 Wiki97828 (talk) 03:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Nozomu Yoshioka
Please undelete Nozomu Yoshioka. Yesterday, he won the bronze medal at the 2023 World Junior Figure Skating Championships. 173.206.140.230 (talk) 21:48, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:52, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Discussion on the wording of 3RR
Hi. Can you offer your thoughts regarding the question I asked here? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Question from Julius Raphael Ochai (21:35, 27 February 2023)
Hello dear mentor, am new ro Wikipedia, I have an article I want to publish and copy write, how do I go about it?, thanks --Julius Raphael Ochai (talk) 21:35, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Julius Raphael Ochai, and welcome to Wikipedia! You can read this page for information about how to create an article. It's especially important to make sure that the subject of your article has received attention from reliable sources like newspapers and books, and please note that you generally shouldn't write an article about yourself. Let me know if you have any more questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. Julius Raphael Ochai (talk) 22:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 9 March 2023
- News and notes: What's going on with the Wikimedia Endowment?
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Regarding undisclosed payment tag on Vineet Kumar Chaudhary page
Respected Sir, I can't understand why this tag has been put on this page. In fact, before this page came to the mainspace, it has been discussed on the helpdesk that there is no direct relation with Chaudhary. I have prepared this page on the basis of a fan, I have seen his TV show, so I know a lot of information about his life. Please consider removing this tag. thank You Wiki97828 (talk) 08:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wiki97828, this should all be fixed now. I'm sorry you got caught up in all of this: Wikipedia has a lot of problems with undisclosed paid editing, so we have to be very careful when a new article looks a little suspicious. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:01, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Your help work is tolerable, I have seen that you are ready to help everyone, may God accept your legitimate demands. Wiki97828 (talk) 04:48, 11 March 2023 (UTC) |
Books & Bytes – Issue 55
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Question from Joneskmea on User:Joneskmea (03:10, 19 March 2023)
I’m trying to make a page for my self as a community activist leader --Joneskmea (talk) 03:10, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Joneskmea, and welcome to Wikipedia! Generally it's not a good idea to write an article about yourself: for one thing, most people don't meet our inclusion standards, which require that a person be discussed in detail by multiple trustworthy sources (e.g. newspapers, books, etc.) before we can have an article about them. If you think you meet that standard, you can read this page for information about how exactly to create a new article. If you don't, don't worry—there are plenty of other pages on Wikipedia that could use your help! Let me know if you have any questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
TPA
Hi there. Could you please revoke talk page access for LW GENERAL ELECTRIC PRIVATE LIMITED? You blocked them for WP:PROMO and WP:CORPNAME, but they've since continued to spam their talk page. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:19, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done; thanks. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 15:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Newspapers.com
Hi. Okay, since Newspapers.com became part of the WP Library, and we now have to login through that, if I replace "www-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/" with just "newspapers.com", that will solve this issue? I hadn't realized that it was a problem, or that the clip link that popped up on Newspapers.com had changed its format. But if I do that, it will be available for everyone to view? Oh, and thank you, btw, for making those correcdtions. Onel5969 TT me 01:08, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think that's right, Onel5969. (I didn't notice it either until today.) It's kind of a pain that way, though—I'll leave a message for the Wikipedia Library people in case there's anything they can do about it. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 20 March 2023
- News and notes: Wikimania submissions deadline looms, Russian government after our lucky charms, AI woes nix CNET from RS slate
- Eyewitness: Three more stories from Ukrainian Wikimedians
- In the media: Paid editing, plagiarism payouts, proponents of a ploy, and people peeved at perceived preferences
- Featured content: Way too many featured articles
- Interview: 228/2/1: the inside scoop on Aoidh's RfA
- Traffic report: Who died? Who won? Who lost?
Congratulations!
The TFA for Wiley Rutledge was seriously deserved. Back when I did the GA review, I knew it was a matter of time before it got nominated for FA status, but I still had to do a double take when I saw it show up on TFA. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 03:38, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, TheTechnician27! Hope you're doing well. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the article, introduced: Wiley Rutledge "served on the U.S. Supreme Court for only six years, but he still managed to make his mark on history. Known for his stalwart defenses of civil liberties in several landmark cases, he gained a reputation for being not only a staunch liberal but also a genuinely kind and compassionate man." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:21, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
sharing impressions from vacation on Madeira 20-30 March, pics now at 24 Mar from the peaks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 03 April 2023
- From the editor: Some long-overdue retractions
- News and notes: Sounding out, a universal code of conduct, and dealing with AI
- Arbitration report: "World War II and the history of Jews in Poland" case is ongoing
- Featured content: Hail, poetry! Thou heav'n-born maid
- Recent research: Language bias: Wikipedia captures at least the "silhouette of the elephant", unlike ChatGPT
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).
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Guideline and policy news
- A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.
Technical news
- Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. (T178356)
- The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
- A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on Special:Contributions. This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.
Arbitration
- The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
- A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.
Question from Despicable Duck Wiki (21:10, 4 April 2023)
how do i make an article? --Despicable Duck Wiki (talk) 21:10, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Despicable Duck Wiki, and welcome to Wikipedia! You'll want to take a look at Help:Your first article for information about writing a new article; if you still have any questions after reading that, feel free to let me know. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:41, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks!
Hello, Extraordinary Writ,
Thank you for your detection work on Shawn Teller. I just got so used to him relisting discussions that I really didn't have any suspicions about him, he became a regular NAC fixture on AFD pages. But he seems to have pushed the envelope this week with his AFD comments that got many editors' attention. But if I had seen his talk page, I would have considered a CIR block, I didn't suspect socking. I regularly report very active new editors who plunge into AFDs but I never thought of looking at our AFD helpers who have been around a year. I appreciate your sock detecting skills and will try to be more alert myself. Thanks again. Liz Read! Talk! 06:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Liz. I thought it was a competence issue at first too, but the more I looked the more it just seemed like trolling, and the trail of breadcrumbs eventually led back to Architect 134, who's apparently been doing this for years. Sigh. (Imagine how much of his life he's wasted on these sorts of antics!) Thankfully sockpuppet closers seem to be fairly rare, so it's probably not something to worry about too much unless you see something that looks especially suspicious. Hope you're well! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:11, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Question from Isaacwikihownerd (23:44, 6 April 2023)
Can I make a airplanes study --Isaacwikihownerd (talk) 23:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Isaacwikihownerd, and welcome to Wikipedia! If you're asking whether you can edit articles about airplanes, the answer is yes: there are many aviation-related articles that could use your help. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:48, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Articles for deletion/Pitchero
Hi, you closed this AfD as a No Consensus - can you provide some reasoning please? The comments by Cunard were made at the last minute and there was no opportunity to respond. Also, his reasoning is flat out wrong when he says that coverage of the app/website counts as coverage for the company - hence the separate sections in NCORP and my response quoting out guidelines to Ceilquiparle. HighKing++ 10:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Happy to relist to give you a chance to reply to Cunard—usually we really don't like relisting for a fourth time, but in this case I guess it would be unfair not to let you respond. On the merits I didn't see a strong basis for discounting the keep !votes: there seems to be reasonable disagreement about the quality of the sources as well as whether to "cover the company and its products/services in the same article" if one or the other is notable. (I also think WP:MULTSOURCES is fairly clear that the Telegraph articles should be evaluated as one source rather than several.) But I'll let someone else close the AfD once my relist expires. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:28, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
Chola conquest of Thondaimandalam
Hi, I'm a history geek and was hoping to read the article Chola conquest of Thondaimandalam later. But it was deleted under G7. I asked the creator why they requested for a self deletion. But they don't seem to be very active and has not responded yet. Since you were the admin who deleted it, I wanted to know what was the problem in it. If the article was fine, would you mind undelete and move it to draftspace? Thilsebatti (talk) 00:41, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, Thilsebatti—see Draft:Chola conquest of Thondaimandalam. The author's main concern seems to have been that the article had original research/synthesis issues, so you may want to address that if you're planning on moving it back to mainspace. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:01, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. The article looked so interesting on first glance despite I'm not having very much knowledge about Cholas and Pandyas. I will slowly try to fix the issues and move it back to mainspace. Thilsebatti (talk) 02:40, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Sherman Minton Featured article review
I have nominated Sherman Minton for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:48, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of Apani B Pge
Hi,
My page was deleted. I am a person of note and my videos on YouTube collectively have millions of views. I appear on many prominent music sites and in published books about hip hop. I am currently working on new projects and found it disturbing that my pge was one and I was considered not notable while I have less active male peers in indie hiphop whose pages remain untouched. Id like to have my page restored ASAP please! BlacksmithCompanies (talk) 17:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- BlacksmithCompanies,
Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request.. See Apani B. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC) - @BlacksmithCompanies I have no keen interest in seeing your page deleted, so I won't be immediately listing it for further consideration at WP:AFD. However, the page as it currently stands appears non-compliant with several policies and guidelines regarding content on Wikipedia.
- The singer appears to be non-notable, according to Wikipedia guidelines. They appear to fail the criteria spelled out in both the general notability guidelines and the "Music"-specific notability guidelines. Without more signficant coverage of the artist in reliable sources - the article currently only has one citation, and it's to the blog site "Discogs" - there isn't enough to write a Wikipedia article with.
- I tried myself to find better sources and not delete the article, per WP:BEFORE. But I was unable to find significant coverage of the artist. If better sources aren't provided or the article isn't improved, it's likely to be put up for deletion again. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 17:52, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Judwaa 2
Thank you for unprotecting the Judwaa 2 article recently. Can you please also get the talk page? 67.180.143.89 (talk) 03:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Done; thanks for letting me know. (I don't even understand why that was protected in the first place—must have been a mistake.) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:18, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Question from Gold Water Bottling & Non-Alcoholic Beverage Industry (14:19, 18 April 2023)
Hello I would like add my business on Wikipedia , how can I do It please? so that I can link it to my business profile . --Gold Water Bottling & Non-Alcoholic Beverage Industry (talk) 14:19, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! You can learn about creating a new article on this page. Pay special attention to the information about references and notability: a business can only have an article if reliable sources like books, newspapers, etc. have written about it in detail, so if your business hasn't received that sort of coverage, it unfortunately isn't eligible for a Wikipedia page. You'll also want to follow the instructions here for disclosing that you have a conflict of interest. By the way, Wikipedia has some very particular rules about usernames, and one of them is that a username can't just be the name of a business. If you don't want to be blocked for username issues, I'd recommend either submitting a rename request or creating a new account. Hope this helps—please let me know if you have any more questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Procedural notification
Hi, I and others have proposed additional options at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC_on_a_procedural_community_desysop. You may wish to review your position in that RfC. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Question from Pramilach (14:25, 19 April 2023)
Hell, I have a query regarding my first article. Some one have suggested below comments.
This article uses bare URLs, which are uninformative and vulnerable to link rot. Please consider converting them to full citations to ensure the article remains verifiable and maintains a consistent citation style. Several templates and tools are available to assist in formatting, such as Reflinks (documentation), reFill (documentation) and Citation bot (documentation). (April 2023) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)
This article includes a list of general references, but it lacks sufficient corresponding inline citations. Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations. (April 2023) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)
Can you help me how to go about, or these are already edited on the page.
Thanks you, Warmly, Pramila --Pramilach (talk) 14:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Pramila. Good start! The first message just means that when you cite a source, it's best to provide more information than just the URL. For instance, include the title, author, and date of the work, just like you did in this citation:
- Mallon, Jackie (2021-09-28). "Craft clusters, how one sustainable brand uses India's textile heritage". FashionUnited. Retrieved 2023-04-18.
- Don't worry too much about this, though, since it's a fairly minor issue. The second message is about making sure more of the article has citations. You already have quite a few, but adding more (at least one per paragraph is a good rule of thumb) will help readers see where your information came from. Make sure you're using reliable sources like books, scholarly articles, and news stories rather than blogs and YouTube videos. I hope this helps, and feel free to let me know if you have any more questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
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I was finally able to check my sources for Civil War service, and perhaps unsurprisingly was unable to turn up anything besides Warner and a few orders of battle. Sorry for the delay of looking into this. Hog Farm Talk 02:27, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yep, not too surprising, but many thanks for looking! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:48, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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- Thanks Nosebagbear. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:20, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Mass move issue
Hi. I see you went through and moved that big old list of Olympian articles to draft space. I've identified one problem on that and I imagine there may be others as well. Draft:Alf Davies (swimmer) has a redirect to Swimming at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's 200 metre breaststroke on it. One of the reasons to move articles back into main space is to redirect them. This was redirected as the result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alf Davies (swimmer) - started 29 April this year.
Given the terms the TfC operated under, I **think** this redirect should have stayed in mainspace shouldn't it? I don't know how many other articles on the big old list were also previously redirected. I'd move this one back to mainspace myself but a) can't figure out how to do that and b) certainly don't have the time to go through all 960-odd of them. I have no idea if there's an automated way to do so - the redirect has a big warning message on it and that might help. But I think you're going to need to run over the list scan and check how many articles this applies to. Sorry. Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:32, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yikes: you're exactly right, and thanks for letting me know. I've moved that one back to mainspace as well as four others I found using PetScan—that should be all of them, but let me know if you notice anything else fishy. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:56, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. I don't know how quickly (or if) I'll be able to work through any of these really, but if anything odd appears I'll let you know. Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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I've never seen anything like this before. Genuinely curious to know more, specifically how this log is generated and where it's connected on-wiki. (please do not ping on reply) Primefac (talk) 14:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- All I did was click "remove" on the admin-only list at Special:ManageMentors, but since non-admins can generate these log entries too, I'm guessing that MediaWiki:GrowthMentors.json (which Special:ManageMentors automatically edited for me) is what sets all the re-assignments in motion. Don't know much more than that, I'm afraid. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:25, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Or the non-admins might be using Special:QuitMentorship, which is linked from Special:MentorDashboard. That might make more sense. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:29, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
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Syed Asim Waqar Deletion
Dear @Extraordinary Writ, I hope this message finds you well. I recently noticed that the Wikipedia page I created for "Syed Asim Waqar" has been deleted. I'm writing to kindly request further information about the deletion and to understand the reasons behind it. I invested time and effort into creating the page, and I genuinely believe that Syed Asim Waqar]'s work and accomplishments merit inclusion on Wikipedia. Therefore, I would appreciate any clarification you can provide regarding the decision to delete the page. Could you please share the specific reasons or concerns that led to the deletion of the "Syed Asim Waqar" page? This information will be valuable to me in understanding how I can address any potential issues and ensure compliance with Wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I'm eager to have a constructive conversation and find a resolution. I look forward to hearing from you and appreciate your time and efforts as a Wikipedia administrator. Best regards, @MH21 Mh21production (talk) 13:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) It looks like that article was deleted after a discussion that concluded Waqar didn't fit either the notability guidelines for subjects in general or politicians in particular. I linked some guides on how to demonstrate that -- the latter is dependent on holding specific roles, but the former applies to anyone, and simply requires that reliable sources (e.g. published books or reputable newspapers) have written about them in sufficient depth to write a quality Wikipedia article. The people in that discussion felt, unfortunately, that wasn't the case. Sometimes these discussions get it wrong, in either direction, but the unanimity with which it was decided here at least implies the article didn't demonstrate well if he passed those guidelines. You might want to make a subpage of your user page to collect links to books, news articles, etc about Waqar and see if any experienced editors can look if those demonstrate notability; it can be difficult to figure out what sources are considered 'reliable', or what coverage is sufficiently in-depth. Vaticidalprophet 13:47, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, Vaticidalprophet is correct (good to see you around again, by the way). Let us know if you need any more information or help, Mh21production. If you do want to keep looking for sources, you'll want to make sure that they talk about Waqar in detail rather than just mentioning or quoting him. The two articles that you cited ([2] and [3]), for example, do quote statements that he has made, but they don't provide very much information about Waqar himself as a person, which is probably why the editors in the deletion discussion felt that they weren't sufficient. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 16:24, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- got you. thanks for the reply, one thing that the Wikipedia is a great source of knowledge and information therefore I wanted to add genuine information, but because of lack of reference source it got deleted.
- If I bring refference which gives in dept information about Waqar, how should I proceed? Mh21production (talk) 07:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- Mh21production, if you do find in-depth coverage of Waqar, I'd suggest using Wikipedia:Article wizard to create a new draft about him. You'll be able to submit the draft to be reviewed by an experienced editor, who will be able to either accept the draft or provide you with additional feedback. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:55, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, Vaticidalprophet is correct (good to see you around again, by the way). Let us know if you need any more information or help, Mh21production. If you do want to keep looking for sources, you'll want to make sure that they talk about Waqar in detail rather than just mentioning or quoting him. The two articles that you cited ([2] and [3]), for example, do quote statements that he has made, but they don't provide very much information about Waqar himself as a person, which is probably why the editors in the deletion discussion felt that they weren't sufficient. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 16:24, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Everlasting Summer
Ok, than I'll just write a new article about this game in my draftspace and submit it with AfC. WhyAddX (talk) 07:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's fine, WhyAddX, but please try to listen to the advice that editors in the DRV were giving you: finding a few high-quality sources will work much better than listing dozens of lower-quality sources. And if you can't find any high-quality sources, that's a good sign that the topic just isn't notable and that the article will be deleted again if you recreate it. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:00, 4 July 2023 (UTC)