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Fantasy

Numerous sources list it as fantasy, I just named you at least one myself. Why make such an issue over this? None of the other listings have citations on them. Why single this one out to subject it to sources while ignoring others? Regardless, numerous sources list it as fantasy. I named one myself. 142.198.94.215 (talk) 20:07, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

I've never seen Good Reads used as a reliable source for the genre of a film, and even if it is so, you didn't provide a citation or even a bare URL so that I could check for myself. If you have numerous sources, then it shouldn't be that challenging to provide one. I can verify the other genres for myself via AllMovie.com. If you want to challenge them, you're welcome to do so and then someone (perhaps myself) will add the citation for you.
You're accusing me of making an issue of it, but you're the one pushing to modify "science fiction" to "science fantasy" or otherwise add fantasy when the article has been stable to this point. Per WP:BRD, the onus is on you to explain why you feel this will be an improvement, and to provide a backing reference. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 20:20, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
The edit button exists for a reason. So people can add more to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.198.94.215 (talk) 01:57, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
There's more to editing than adding material, but I suspect you know that and that this comment was meant facetiously. DonIago (talk) 02:52, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Natural horror films

Thanks for pointing out my error, but you didn't need to remove it. I sourced it this time. Firekong1 (talk) 18:14, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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WP:3O

Hi Doniago, you recently removed my request for a third opinion on the basis that more than two editors were involved.[1] Can you clarify—is this because of the involvement of editors in the issue before I raised it, or because Jtbobwaysf left a comment in the section? Thanks! Wracking talk! 16:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Wracking; thanks for reaching out! I removed your 3O filing because I see three editors participating in the discussion: yourself, TylerBurden and Jtbobwaysf. 3O is literally to be used in instances where a third opinion is desired; in other words, when two editors have reached a stalemate in a discussion. Hope that clears things up for you! If you feel one of the editors is inactive in the dispute you're welcome to relist it...but the dispute here is only three days old so that seems improbable to me...or you're always welcome to pursue other forms of dispute resolution. I hope this is helpful, but please let me know if you have additional questions! DonIago (talk) 16:59, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
I thought that was allowed, because 3O can be suitable if "two principal editors involved in the dispute and other editors have contributed only a few technical clarifications". Jtbobwaysf left a question and has not responded to my reply welcoming further questions but has been active on other parts of Wikipedia. I think the discussion has come to a stalemate as I've said all I can say, and no one else has weighed in. I can seek another venue though, if it's not appropriate. Wracking talk! 18:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
If you want to re-file it I won't stop you, though I can't speak for other editors. DonIago (talk) 19:21, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

die hard

they should change 'special agentS" Wikis Least Wanted (talk) 02:09, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

I reviewed the article and I don't see any place where "agents" is used incorrectly. If you disagree, please provide more context. DonIago (talk) 02:12, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

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Natalie and Christine

I don't understand why you took them out? they are more principal than most on there and credited higher.... KellanRose7 (talk) 22:37, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome to remove other non-principal characters or start a discussion at the film's Talk page. Please keep WP:FILMCAST in mind. DonIago (talk) 13:57, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The Gamesters of Triskelion

Hi Doniago,

I'm replying to your message concerning the link between this Star Trek TOS episode and 'A Space Oddity', an episode of CSI. I'm not sure whether this would be suitable for a citation, but see what you think: https://csi.fandom.com/wiki/A_Space_Oddity

This is an excerpt from the page: "This episode spoofs Star Trek. Wallace Langham, Liz Vassey, Kate Vernon, Bradley Thompson, David Weddle, Naren Shankar and Ronald D. Moore all worked on assorted Trek spin-offs in one capacity or another. Also, many of the 'fantasy' sequences between Hodges and Wendy are obvious spoofs of scenes from Star Trek. For example, the scene where Hodges and Wendy are wearing "obedience collars" and Wendy is running Hodges trough training exercises is clearly an homage to the Star Trek episode "The Gamesters of Triskelion," which has a scene that's nearly identical."

Regards,

Ken G 60.240.102.69 (talk) 08:54, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Ken, thanks for reaching out to me! Wikis are not reliable sources because anyone can edit them, much as Wikipedia itself wouldn't be considered a reliable source.
However, if the wiki itself had cited another source for its information, you might have been able to use that source as a citation. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case in this instance. DonIago (talk) 12:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
No worries Doniago. Thanks for the explanation,
Ken G 60.240.102.69 (talk) 14:57, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Glad I could help! DonIago (talk) 15:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

David Boreanaz removal of edit

Hi, I am replying to your removal of my edit in the personal life section about Chrome Girl nail polish. You stated that I did not have a citation but it was cited in the edit that statement’s were released on both David and Jamie’s Instagram and twitter. There was also a statement which is the last statement on the official Chrome Girl nail polish Instagram stating that not only were David and Jamie no longer associated with the company but Melissa was also not associated. Here is a link to the chrome girl nail polish account with the statement https://www.instagram.com/p/BiUmg7GBhGi/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Can you please restore the edit as I did give correct information? Also so I know for future reference how should I have done the edit so that it would not be removed and that it would have been cited correctly? If you can not restore the deleted edit am I okay to go ahead and place the information in that section with the other Chrome Girl information? Ab101216 (talk) 19:07, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

If that's Chrome Girl's official page and it can be authenticated as such (the link isn't working for me), then you can probably get away with citing it, but I'd recommend reviewing WP:INSTAGRAM first, and frankly I'd recommend finding a less potentially problematic source. In any event, just saying, "it was posted on social media" is insufficient; you need to provide enough data that they at least know where/when to look for a confirming statement, just as one shouldn't say, "A Simpsons episode referenced Citizen Kane", but rather, "The May 15, 2018 episode of The Simpsons referenced Citizen Kane when X happened..."
The other issue was that you added your information in front of an existing citation, presenting the impression that that citation was intended to support the text you were adding (and it could have been interpreted subsequently as not supporting the text preceding your addition).
Hope this is helpful. DonIago (talk) 19:25, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Gavin Hood

Hi! WD means Wikidata. There are references for the exact date given. As I am not sure if at the English Wikipedia the infoboxes are connected to Wikidata, I wanted to state from where I have this info. Cassandro (talk) 13:52, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

They're not. As I'm not very familiar with Wikidata or how it works, can you please provide a proper citation? Right now in the article the birthdate appears without a source. Thank you! DonIago (talk) 13:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Mad World

Thank you for reviewing my contributions to It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. While I did add to the total character count, I still think my version of the plot summary had several pros over the reverted one: namely, dividing up the character's concurrent journeys by car (as recommended here), explaining how all characters arrive and who is involved in the climax, and omitting what seemed to be cruft. I will give it another shot and see what else I can eliminate. Specialsam110 (talk) 15:36, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. I entirely agree with and support your ideas regarding cleaning up the article, but we should still bear WP:FILMPLOT in mind. If you come up with something that you think might be good but are still struggling with the word count, I'd be happy to take a stab at trimming it down for you! DonIago (talk) 15:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Got it down to 728 words, which is still more than recommended, but fewer than the version you reverted to. Specialsam110 (talk) 16:42, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Given the length of the movie, I'm not going to flip out over an extra 28 words, though I can't speak for other editors. Thanks for your efforts here! DonIago (talk) 17:02, 27 July 2023 (UTC)