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December 2008

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Nice catch.

Thanks for catching that glaring error on Red Tails (Major-Colonel? WTF? lol). I've read and reread the Wiki and my eyes/brain blew right past it. By your username I assume you're from the Kansas City area. If so, I wanted to extend an invite to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject Missouri and/or Wikipedia:WikiProject Kansas City if you're not already a member. They're just working groups that focus on improving Wikis related to Missouri or Kansas City. Have a great Wiki kind of day! Sector001 (talk) 18:20, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I used to live in KC but not for 15 years. I miss it. I appreciate your invitation. Good luck to all of you there.

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Your addition to the article is unacceptable. You cannot cite to IMDb for this kind of material. IMDb is in many ways like a wiki in that anyone can edit it. All wikis are unreliable sources. Your persistence in adding this information may lead to a block. There is a talk back just below this where another user has started a topic on the article talk page where you can discuss this material and perhaps better understand why you can't do what you're doing. I suggest you leave the article alone and join the discussion.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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IMDB, like Wikipedia, is a closely monitored site which does not allow non-factual edits by users. They review edits just like they do here at Wikipedia. So, if IMDB is NOT "user" managed, what does that make Wikipedia?

I find these reversions to be unacceptable. Specifically, what does "Shearonink" object to? I merely pointed out a technical error in the TV series. The series set astronauts' homes in Cape Canaveral. They were NOT. They lived and trained at the NASA facility in Houston. Astronauts did not come from the Army, especially from the Corps of Engineers. These are historical FACTS. Wherein lies the problem? Why is there a insistent denial of my contributions? I it is the wording I will correct it. I never encountered such resistance to a contribution in Wikipedia, especially considering that it is a TV show.

And yes, thanks in advance for dealing with this in a professional manner.

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See Talk:Typhoon Haiyan. You should have done so before changing it back to "her" again. Dustin (talk) 17:40, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Dustin, sir, I do appreciate your concern for clarity, which should have been inherent in the construction of the sentence in the first place. But it was not my entry, originally. And besides, where do I find this rule in Wikipedia, "whatever goes first stays"? Is this theirs, or your own personal rule? In any case, am I to believe then, that the following statement would be incorrect by that rule..."VS-3" and *its* S-3A antisubmarine aircraft joined USS Ronald Reagan and *her* carrier battle group.". Again, is that incorrect? I do not see it, Dustin. The sentence has two segments one referring to the ship, and the other to the airwing, VS-3. It is most likely the reason Wikipedia accepts either usage. Just about every ship in Wikipedia is referred to by a feminine personal pronoun in accordance with longstanding naval, nautical, and aeronautical tradition. That includes men o' war, merchantmen, cruise or transoceanic passenger ships, and more than a few (but nowhere near all) aircraft and spacecraft.

Thank you sir.

Bd64kcmo (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. The reason for keeping the first is so that you can readily avoid having any sort of dispute between usage, similar with the different dialects of English, date formatting, etc. Dustin (talk) 23:53, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

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Despite your assertion in this edit summary, your edits certainly do look like vandalism. Your first edit reverted 180 edits by 100 editors to a 2013 version of the article. After your reversion I made a number of edits to fix errors in the infobox, as well as numerous small errors and MOS violations in the article and to reorganise the article so that it complied more closely with the suggested article layout at MOS:TV. Despite thanking me for that I see you have now reverted all of the corrections that I have made.[1] This looks like vandalism and has been treated accordingly. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:34, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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Diannaa I believe you made a serious error of presumption. As a result my contribution was stripped down to the point that it renders nothing about the history of the engine. Yes, the referenced work by Barney Gaylord is copyrighted, but looking deeper in, Barney elaborates: "Permission is granted to not for profit entities (primarily intended to reference vintage car clubs and vintage automobile hobby enthusiasts) to reproduce any information in this web site, either in electronic form or in printed newsletters, subject to the conditions that credit to the source is noted, and that this information shall not be sold or redistributed for profit. "

I have been in communication with Barney and other MGA Twin Cam enthusiasts for permission to use additional images, as well as the ones I previously displayed. I have permission to show all of them, but I need to know what proof Wikipedia needs. Emails? Barney can be reached at barneymg@mgaguru.com, if you need to directly communicate with him. Meanwhile, I will send whatever is needed here. Please review his web page for copyright exceptions, and let me know. I will refrain from reverts until I hear from you within a reasonable time, say, a couple of weeks?

Thanks and have a blessed day.

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All right then, ball is in their court.

BD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.58.147.225 (talk) 20:14, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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Ok Dennis, so where was I to answer Dianna, other than here, where she addressed my changes to the article?

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What or whose "consensus" is referred to here? ANd you use the term "modern", yet in your own statement you say. { "maiden" is the traditional term, carrying over from the nautical term }. THe "nautical" term is from time in memorial, so what has "modern times" have to do with anything? In my own experience I have heard feminine personal pronouns used for aircraft, spacecreft, and even hurricanes. Most recently, Hurricane Sally, striking the Gulf Coast 15 September 2020, was referred to as "she" and "her" by CBS This Morning anchor Gayle King. Named storms are referred to that way, and quite often, including masculine personal pronouns. I've heard the Space Shuttles and other space vehicles up to and including Apollo, Skylab, and the Shuttle, referred to as "she and her". I have heard it used often by Rod Serling, Scott Pelley of CBS, and others. Aircraft have often been referred to as "ships", particularly among those who have flown them. Some years ago a DC-3 crash landed in Fort Lauderdale, and the pilot owner said "she did her job well", referring to the behavior of the airplane. I believe I heard CAPT Sullenberger also say "she did her job" of his A320 he landed in the Hudson, as he was quite pleased with the performance and short fused establishment of watertight integrity of the airplane when they landed in the river. Besides, who or what "consensus" defines "modern times"? And how does "consensus" count incidents of personal pronoun use with ships, aircraft, spacecraft, or anything else, occupied by humans or not? Therefore, I consider the argument that in "modern times" aircraft are "rarely" referred to "like ships", is untenable, whether or not by "consensus", which stated "maiden" has been used for millenia (Okay, centuries). Thus I STILL I have no idea of why "maiden" should apply to something that is going to be considered as gender-neutral. I don't use the term "its maiden drive" driving a brand new car or motorcycle out of the dealership. "It's maiden" makes no sense to me. It should be one or the other. Bd64kcmo (talk) 22:27, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Maiden vs. first

I just want to let you know that consensus is that there is no reason to prefer "first flight" over "maiden flight". While some people view "first" as more gender neutral, "maiden" is the traditional term, carrying over from the nautical term maiden voyage. - ZLEA _T\^C 16:20, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

I think you've misunderstood. In modern times aircraft are rarely referred to as "her" like ships. - ZLEA _T\^C 22:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I doubt I misunderstood anything here. For one, "Modern times" is a relative term. Wikipedia is a public domain and "no good reason" is also a relative term. I edited the article merely for consistency in community parlance. I already presented some examples I heard with my own ears. Maiden refers to females, therefore, her maiden flight, ot its first flight, inaugural flight, shakedown flight, etc. Maiden just *does not fit* a gender-neutral reference. So, if we're going to use certain words, let's ensure consistency.

As for feminine personal pronouns, admittedly these references are more like preferences, but I doubt the objection to my edit has any evidence as to hard data, indicating how the language is spoken. Their personal opinion is that I had no good reason to edit. I disagree. However, here are other references for my evidence for using "she" and "her" with aircraft, in MODERN times.

I will start with Wikipedia.

1. "'She' is used when the referent is female, or is an object personified as female... this is *common* with vessels such as ships and airplanes, and sometimes with countries." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_in_English (Under "Personal Pronouns")

2. "...Aircraft are usually referred to as "she", just like ships..." https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/46807/what-is-the-gender-of-an-aircraft#:~:text=Aircraft%20are%20usually%20referred%20to,Automobiles%20follow%20the%20same%20principle.&text=As%20a%20pilot%2C%20the%20aircraft%20is%20definitely%20a%20she.&text=Each%20aircraft%20has%20a%20personality,idiosyncrasies%20as%20different%20personality%20types.

"...Much of aviation has a history in Nautical terms, lore... and law..." https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/49230/why-are-airplanes-called-she

"...From my point of vue (sic) an ac (aircraft) always has some kind of personality...so using "it" when referring to an ac is terrible." https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=670509

“Modern times” is not as hard and fast as you presented to me.

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