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Potatobot ISO

Hi,

Just to let you know, we recently ran a bot to verify that ISO 639 language names linked to articles with the corresponding code. I've got maybe a dozen left to fix up. It might be worth running PotatoBot again to create or redirect Category:Redirects from ISO 639 to the couple thousand new articles, rather than to the families etc. where some of them currently direct.

Oh, if your bot could also generate a list of articles that have the duplicate ISO codes (such as Flemish and West Flemish currently do), that would be wonderful. Dialects shouldn't have ISO codes, but there are a lot out there, I'm sure, that I haven't cleaned up yet. — kwami (talk) 02:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

BTW, in this edit, I deleted some redlinks from the PotatoBot list. Please revert (and my subsequent edits) if that wasn't appropriate: They didn't look like ISO names to me, and I was using the list to scan for needed articles. — kwami (talk) 02:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I noticed your edits, and I'm perfectly fine with them. I also thought about re-running the task, but I'll have to look at the code before that... It's so long since I did this. Maybe I can manage the coming weekend. BTW, have any new codes been added to the ISO standard since 2010? Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 13:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, there have. The list is at SIL here.[1] I have the list from last year, but there were some additions in January.

Some of the ISO articles already exist, but link to the family. In some cases, like in Mesoamerica where the family is considered a "language", the family and the language pages have an entry for the ISO code, which might (I don't know) complicate the bot. There are only 225 red links left out of the 8,000 from last year, but maybe 100 more for new ISO codes (listed or linked from here). — kwami (talk) 21:35, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

BTW, I posted copies of the ISO search engine in a couple places (like the Wikiproject and the language portal), so it's more accessible and maybe the links created by PotatoBot will get more use. Might be a good reason to update it: like public transport, if it doesn't get you where you want to go, people won't get in the habit of using it. — kwami (talk) 21:45, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

"Some of the ISO articles already exist, but link to the family." – Do you mean ISO redirects already exist, or am I missing something here? Could you me give an example (or several)? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:16, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Moving an ISO redirect causes the template (and categorisation) to end up in a wrong redir, see eg. [2]. I think the bot will re-add the template to the right redir (just trying it out), and I'll remove the wrong ones; so this is just a hint for the future :-) --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:34, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I noticed this a lot in Mesoamerica, but it's also found in Fula, Zhuang, and other cases where the colloquial conception of the "language" corresponds to sometimes dozens of ISO "languages". Mixtec language, for example. Over the next week I may be able to create stubs for many of the ISO Mixtec languages, and I'll try to redirect the ISO redirects, as I did last week with Zapotec. However, people don't generally do this. If they bother to clean up the rd's at all, they're generally not aware of the ISO rd's. So what happens is that you get a case where, say, 50 ISO rd's point to the general Zapotec article rather than to the 50 individual Zapotec-language articles. That's extreme, but there are other cases where two or three ISO rd's link to a superior node even though the individual articles exist. You also get cases like Chukwa language which are rd's to their family, and the ISO rd follows suite. — kwami (talk) 05:19, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

What I suggest is directing the ISO rd to the ISO name of the language, and following it if it's a rd. 90+% of the time, this leads to the article on the correct language, assuming it exists. But there are a hundred or so cases where this does not happen. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Languages/Primary_language_names_in_Ethnologue_16_by_ISO_code#Blue_links_without_articles for the problems that cropped up with the last bot search, which checked to see if the article the ISO name led to contained the appropriate ISO code. There are three main problems: the final article is a dab page (like Kol language: here perhaps the bot could search each of the links to find the one w the proper ISO code in the infobox?), the final article is for another language but has a hat note to the correct article (like Vlaams), the final article is on the correct topic but for whatever reason there is no infobox (like at Flemish), or there's an error in the articles themselves that needs to be fixed (typo in the ISO field – I just fixed a bunch of these, missing option in a dab page, missing hat note, etc.). — kwami (talk) 05:28, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

PotatoBot logs such cases but does not fix them automatically. See User:PotatoBot/Lists/ISO_639_log, which is from the run in 2010 and has eg. found the Zapotec issue in lines 682ff, and Flemish in 621. If all goes well, there'll soon be an updated log. Would it be safe for the bot to change such redirects automatically? In this case, I'd have to do a bit of coding and file a new approval request. (Which I'll gladly do, it'll just take some time.) --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:41, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, we could generate the log, and then see if it's such a big job we'd want the bot, or if we could do it by hand. The list should be much shorter this time around.

There are articles like Nahuatl dialects, where a bunch of ISO codes are listed, but each ld-n entry is a link to an article which repeats on of them. That's not an error, though I'm not sure it's the best approach. Maybe situations like that could be listed in a separate sub-log?

Going through the 2010 log, most of the problems have been fixed, but I just caught one.

Could the log be sorted by error? 'Goes to X but should be Y' is generally due to synonyms, but multiple listings of a code are not generally wanted. — kwami (talk) 22:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

We need to figure out what to do with retired ISO codes. In cases of a merger, we could link to the article it was merged into. In cases of a split, where the WP article has not been split, we could still link to the WP article. However, it might be split in the future, which would mean an outdated ISO rd which probably no-one will catch. We could link to the family instead, but the redirected reader might be confused as to why they ended up there. And in the case of a deleted code, there may be no article to link to.

Another possibility would be to have an article on retired ISO codes. It could probably be auto-generated from an SIL list. (I remember seeing one on their site.) Each entry would have an anchor, and each ISO rd. would link to that anchor. Each entry would then have a description of what happened: merged, deleted, split, etc., linking to the appropriate article. This might be best even for mergers, because if a reader is looking for an ISO code and ends up at an article that doesn't list it, they might be confused even if it's the correct article. (Same is true for a split like Wintu, where we could still link to the Wintu article.) It could also screw up future bot or AWB checks. — kwami (talk) 23:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

For this time, the log can't be sorted as the bot is already active, and I can't change the code without aborting the run. Let's see how the log turns out; maybe I'll add a sorting feature for the next run. The log should also provide information about most if not all the situations you are describing above. I think it'll list Nahuatl dialects as having the code nah in its infobox despite being a page separate from Nahuatl. Some of the retired codes redirect to Spurious languages which has no language infobox, and therefore they will be logged too. Retired codes that link to an article (eg. ISO 639:baz → Nen language because Tunen language redirects there) will be logged as well, provided someone has removed the obsolete code from the infobox.

Creating a list of obsolete codes and redirect the codes there might be a good idea. I've been thinking about doing something similar for the obsolete ATC code redirects, which are created by a different task of PotatoBot.

Future splits/mergers should be caught by subsequent runs of the bot, which probably means I should run it about once a year. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 16:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Duplicate lines

Would it be easy for you to delete duplicate lines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Languages/Primary language names in Ethnologue 13? I don't know how to do that with AWB. Only need to look for entire adjacent lines which are exact duplicates. (See my last manual edit for examples.) — kwami (talk) 20:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Done :-) --ἀνυπόδητος (talk)

Thanks! — kwami (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey hi

Hey, even if it is a toxic metabolite, does it matter? It is truth. Truth can be even bad. M I rite? I am telling again. The third step was a mistake on my part (one double bond in the main reaction is missing) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bankim07 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not saying that's bad. It's perfectly in order to describe toxic reactions, but you should tell readers what this is all about. I just don't understand the idea behind the image. Are the three reactions somehow related? What have the first and last to do with the Aspirin article? Without some further description or explanation, this looks like three arbitrary reactions of three substances that are used in pain medications. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I've created Aspirin/paracetamol/caffeine. This might be the right place for your image provided (1) it's corrected and (2) the method is notable, eg. it is actually used outside the laboratory. Hope this helps. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 21:18, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

ISO 639 & WikiProject Languages

Thanks for your small but significant change to the "Find a language" box on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Languages page: "Should work with ISO 639-1/2/5 as well." Glad to know the functionality is more than just ISO 639-3.--A12n (talk) 06:17, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome :-) --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Haha

Thank you :) I still can't believe I screwed that up! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't have noticed but for the IP's comment... --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 13:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

telmisartan

sorry, reading too quickly. saw the CCES reference in the J. Str. Cond. Res. paper, found it listed, and added the material before thinking about HCTZ as a banned substance. I do think that paper qualifies largely as speculation from the doping perspective, though the science looks pretty ok. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ] # _ 20:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, looks pretty speculative, but your wording in Telmisartan reflects that well. Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 20:22, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

GFT-505

The structure of this is shown in this paper. I think it is the same (albeit drawn slightly differently) but can you check? Cheers SmartSE (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 21:13, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Nanofitin / Affitin

Hello, I just read this paper published in 2013: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23315487, about Sac7d derived binders that are called Affitins. As I was surprised to read in Wikipedia these binders are called “Nanofitins”, I have checked on the web and I have seen that “Nanofitin” is a brand name owned by a biotech company. I think that "formerly called Affitins" should be deleted, all "Nanofitin" occurrences should be replaced by "Affitin" in the Wikipedia article and the “Affitin” page should be restored. I have also noticed that the article states that these artificial binding proteins derived from Sac7d can have their affinity "directed toward various targets, such as peptides, proteins, viruses, and bacteria". I was not able to find references related to peptides, viruses and bacteria; same for "specific inhibitors for various enzymes". As far as I know there are only examples of Sac7d derived binders specific for proteins. Unless you have found some references, these sentences should be corrected. Hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gakmoo (talk • contribs) 03:12, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Gakmoo, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your input. Affitins seem to have been renamed by the patent holder per this parent, presumably to avoid confusion with Affilins. (Search for "[0009]" on that page.) Maybe the article just uses the old name? If you know about any new development regarding the name, please let me know.

Regarding bacteria etc.: I've just tagged this claim as "citation needed" to (1) let readers know this is unconfirmed and (2) to call it to the attention of editors who might find sources. I'll have a look around the web when time allows.

Thanks again, and please feel free to contact me if you need help with editing, or if you find other problems in Wikipedia articles! --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 13:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anypoditos, thanks for your answer. A search showed that two of the authors of the 2013 paper are the two inventors of the first patent about Sac7d derived binders and are the last two authors of the first paper published with these proteins. It would be astonishing that they use an old name for their 2013 academic publication. As “Nanofitin” is a commercial name (see ® after the name on most of related webpages), keeping this name in a Wikipedia article is a form of advertizing. Is that allowed? Gakmoo (talk) 04:34, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Hm. As far as I can tell, Affitin is a trade name as well, but I'm not sure. I'll post this on WT:PHARM#Nanofitin / Affitin for further input. Cheers, 09:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Potatobot & ISO 639

Thanks for doing another run! And I'm very happy to see that we now support all ISO codes through rd's.

I took care of another few dozen mismatches. However, it would be easier to go through them if Potatobot ignored retired ISO codes. I don't know why it's still looking for codes which aren't in the list, and marking as errors new codes which are in the list. I added a link to a category of retired codes at User:PotatoBot/Excludes/Language articles#Other. — kwami (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed your link only after I'd started the bot; sorry for that. You might want to wait until I've looked into the results of the last run and prepared the bot for another one. Is it right if the bot creates redirs from retired codes but doesn't check the language boxes for them? Or should it mark redirs from retired links for deletion?

Can you give an example or two what you mean by "marking as errors new codes which are in the list"? Thanks, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 12:14, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

About the retired codes: scc scr ppr xia are retired per http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/download.asp. Should they be added to Category:Retired ISO codes or am I missing something? Conversely, was ISO 639:jar accidentally added to the cat? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Retigabine

As the page that had text copied from is a US Government public notice, it is public domain. At least under my reading of public domain and FDA bulletins, I copied only a small part of the warning with links to the main bulletin. Couldn't do that with private, copyrighted pages though, that would be a copyright violation. Thoughts?Wzrd1 (talk) 18:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for editing the information, I'm rather poor at prose and got side tracked figuring out how to add in the citation.Wzrd1 (talk) 19:21, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Drug/compound infoboxes

Hello, I just posted discussions on expanding our bot-driven maintenance and expansion efforts to both drugs/compounds [3] and diseases [4]. Given your interest and long-standing activity in this area (particularly with User:PotatoBot), I think your feedback on these ideas would be particularly valuable. When/if you feel so inclined, I'd love to hear your thoughts! Cheers, Andrew Su (talk) 00:52, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

A quick follow up on the drugbank issues you posted on here. You don't happen to have a few of these examples handy, do you? I'd love to do a spot check to see if they're actively reviewing and correcting issues, or if this is something we're going to need to deal with systematically... If not handy, no worries... Cheers, Andrew Su (talk) 20:55, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Some random examples I can find at the moment:

• Benzyl Benzoate lists eg. "Benzoic acid, phenylmethyl ester", "Benzyl benzoate 99+ %" and others as brand names.
• Homatropine Methylbromide lists "DL-Homatropine methyl bromide", "Humulon lead salt" etc.
• Progesterone used to list "Luteal Hormone", but that has been removed since.

See here for the bot's relevant contributions, where you can find more examples if needed. Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Cheers, Andrew Su (talk) 18:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Cyclosporine

Hi Anypodetos! , Thank you for editing the IUPAC name of CYCLOSPORINE and you were right in everything you said , BUT I want to ask you sir , How old are you? Ph.David (talk) 13:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm 38. Please don't address me as "sir", it makes me feel like 78 ;-) Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 13:23, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Mr.Anypodetos When I drew CICLOSPORIN on Marvin Sketch it gave me the name :(3S,6R,9R,12R,15R,18S,21S,24R,30S,33R)-30-Ethyl-33-[(1S,2S,4E)-1-hydroxy-2-methyl-4-hexen-1-yl]-6,9,18,24-tetraisobutyl-3,21-diisopropyl-1,4,7,10,12,15,19,25,28-nonamethyl-1,4,7,10,13,16,19,22,25,28,31-undecaazacyclotritriacontane-2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23,26,29,32-undecaone

not : (3S,6S,9S,12R,15S,18S,21S,24S,30S,33S)-30-Ethyl-33-[(1R,2R,4E)-1-hydroxy-2-methyl-4-hexen-1-yl]-6,9,18,24-tetraisobutyl-3,21-diisopropyl-1,4,7,10,12,15,19,25,28-nonamethyl-1,4,7,10,13,16,19,22,25,28,31-undecaazacyclotritriacontane-2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23,26,29,32-undecone

Check and tell me ...... Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ph.David (talk • contribs) 22:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Wow, you are really doing things properly. I haven't checked all the stereocentres yet, but the name on the Wikipedia page should be correct. The molecule consists of L-amino acids (the type that occurs in nearly all proteins) which are S configured in Cahn–Ingold–Prelog nomenclature; with the exception of one D- (i.e. R-) amino acid (that's the "12R" in the name). The side chain has two R configured carbons if our formula is correct. You can mail me an image of the structure you drew -- there's a link "Email this user" in the sidebar of this talk page. Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 06:44, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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Can you redraw your image of cisplatin and transplatin?

Hello. I would like to ask you if you could redraw your image File:Cisplatin and transplatin.svg, which you drew in 2011 as a vector image to update the raster image File:Cisplatin and transplatin.gif which I had drawn in 2009 (and which will soon be deleted from Wikipedia as it is no longer used in any article). The problem here is that the vector version does not conform to the usual chemistry conventions for showing the spatial geometry of the molecule, since the four ligands are in a square implying a planar diagram, but the bonds are shown as wedges and dotted lines implying a 3-dimensional diagram. So the vector image should be redrawn, but I do not have software to draw vector images, so I would like to ask you to redraw your image with the four ligands in a rectangle as in my diagram, and also as in the article on cisplatin. Dirac66 (talk) 20:14, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

My internet connection is so awful at the moment that I don't think I can upload any images. Will try to help in September if I don't forget. Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:09, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'll leave a note at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2013 August 2#File:Cisplatin and transplatin.gif to explain that there will be a delay. Dirac66 (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi again! Could you specify on what should be changed in File:Cisplatin and transplatin.svg? Your image, File:Cisplatin and transplatin.gif, has wedges as well. The only obvious difference seems to be that your image is "flatter", i.e. the ligands form more a rectangle than a square. Is this what you'd like me to do? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:27, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, a flatter image with the ligands in a rectangle is correct. In chemistry the wedge bonds are in front of the plane (screen or paper) and the dotted lines are behind the plane, so a diagram with wedges and dotted lines represents a square tilted with respect to the plane, which has a rectangular projection in the plane. This is considered the most elegant way to show the molecule.

An acceptable alternative is to show the molecule in the plane, with bonds as ordinary solid lines and the ligands in a square. But the current .svg image has wedges and dotted lines (out of plane) arranged in a square (in plane), so it is self-contradictory and confusing to chemists. Dirac66 (talk) 22:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Done. Please tell me if any further changes/tweaks are required. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that is correct. Thank you for your help. Dirac66 (talk) 17:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Category:Antimycotics for systemic use

Could you enlighten me as to why this category exists? I am unable to make sense out of it. Please be kind enough to leave a note on my talk page when you answer. Thank you! Cgingold (talk) 02:06, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

There is an old WP:PHARM consensus that the category scheme for pharmaceuticals should be based on ATC codes, only we couldn't agree on how deep the structure should be. This category would correspond to ATC code J02. As it doesn't look like the discussion will be revived any time soon (as far as I can tell – I haven't been following what's going on here for weeks), I suppose the category can be deleted without harm. Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:18, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I will go ahead with a CFD nom and cite what you've said about it here. Best, Cgingold (talk) 05:02, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

It occurs to me that there may well be some other pharm cats with the same status that could also be deleted as a group nom at CFD. Any idea how to find them?? (I will hold off for the time being.) Regards, Cgingold (talk) 05:25, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

As far as I remember, that's the only category I marked. Finding others would be a good task for AutoWikiBrowser or a bot, but my connection will be so awful for the next few weeks that I can't help here. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:04, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks again. I'll just go ahead with this one for now. Cgingold (talk) 10:23, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

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anypodetos

any progress in shark research & their antibodies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.48.191.244 (talk) 22:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, no idea. I haven't kept up to date on this subject since I wrote Heavy-chain antibody. Try http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=shark+antibodies, there are a few recent free-text papers. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

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