User talk:Anthony Appleyard/2008/April-June

Koishii & Hush

You recently deleted my posting about producers Koishii & Hush. I entered the first submission wrong and was told by Golbez that "We really require third-party links about a band, otherwise we can let any band with a myspace account make an article, and with the speed that myspace band articles are created, we really need to be swift with removing them. If there are third-party links available, please recreate the article" So I recreated it with 3rd party links and now you delete it as spam!? Please undo this decision. Thanks Tomveil2000 (talk) 14:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

A deletion

To whom it may concern, the deleting fairy yes?

I was so hurt when I discovered that you had removed my contribution of Jay-Alaric (Sexy) Howell. I had put a , what may be suprising to you, significant amount of time and energy in researching, boardering on stalking just so that I could allow the world to look up this amazing artist. Which you deleted. I'm kind of shocked by this and would appreciate hearing your reasons as to why you would choose to delete such an up and coming artist from the internet?

Have a lovely day,
Concerned citizen of the internets. 11:20, 19 November 2007 User:Phantasmata

• It was tagged for speedy delete as "not notable". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:34, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Improper use of rollback

• This was obviously not vandalism that you had to rollback the edit. If there is something you disagree with it can be easily discussed. I have rollbacked your edit as bad faith. Please see WP:ROLLBACK and use the talk page before reverting again. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
• Ok. First, why did you revert the edit as vandalism? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
• The offending edit is listed as "05:37, 1 April 2008 Anthony Appleyard ... (Reverted edits by Sesshomaru (talk) to last version by JHunterJ) (undo)", with no mention of vandalism. "Respirating" is a very unusual word and got "about 9,580" ghits, whereas "breathing" got "about 41,400,000" ghits. Most people would call it "breathing". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Point about rollbacking is that it's supposed to be used for vandalism, which you and I both know my good faith edit was clearly not. You're an administrator and don't know this? See a message I once received. And I still feel that the line "Liquid breathing, breathing a specialized oxygenated fluid" looks redundant, mainly because of the double usage of "breathing". Perhaps there is another, more neutral word? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• "double usage of "breathing"": this sounds like elegant variation, which see. The usual word is "breathing". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• And another word would be? ... Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• "Breathing". That is what 99% of the English-speaking population calls it. I see no reason to use another word, except phobia at repeating a word.. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• I'll ask for someone else's opinion later. Guess "breathing" will do for now. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Looking for Wikipedians for a User Study

Hello. I am a graduate student in the Department of Computer Science and Engineering at the University of Minnesota. We are conducting research on ways to engage content experts on Wikipedia. Previously, Wikipedia started the Adopt-a-User program to allow new users to get to know seasoned Wikipedia editors. We are interested in learning more about how this type of relationship works. Based on your editing record on Wikipedia, we thought you might be interested in participating. If chosen to participate, you will be compensated for your time. We estimate that most participants will spend an hour (over two weeks on your own time and from your own computer) on the study. To learn more or to sign up contact KATPA at CS dot UMN dot EDU or User:KatherinePanciera/WPMentoring. Thanks. KatherinePanciera (talk) 02:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Brand new to Wikipedia and asking for your comments.

• Hi, I am new to Wikipedia. I have been working on the Black Sheep page and was looking at editing comments to see what I could learn, since this was my first try at editing an article. Would you be so kind as to take a look and let me know any comments you might have on making it better? Thanks greatly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FV2WRLD (talk • contribs) 07:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• I have tidied Black Sheep. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
• Thanks so much for your work. I learned much about organization of material. Greatly appreciate Thanks FV2WRLD (talk) 06:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks --> Thank

[1] --Blechnic (talk) 13:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Aa_lightning_for_stub.gif listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Aa_lightning_for_stub.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Kelly ^hi! 02:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Franjo Tudjman

• I see that you have closed discussion on Requested Move for Franjo Tudjman with result Do not move.

May I ask you what were the arguments for that? I am asking you this because there was discussion about moving Novak Djokovic article. Discussion was absolutely the same (at one side Wikipedia guidelines, at other side correct spelling, vast majority of Wikipedia articles and no-point-in-using-ASCII arguments). But, Novak's page was moved. Regards, --Irić Igor -- Ирић Игор -- K♥S (talk) 18:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

• I have reopened it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Requested Moves

• An IP, 199.125.109.102, closed a request a day after it was listed on RM, declaring it to be speedy closed (There was annother of his I mistakingly unclosed too, due to my error, it was in the backlog section). I reverted this as RM guidelines themselves say 5 days is normal. Now the chap is whining on my talk page, was what I did incorrect? Narson (talk) 10:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
• Please: What is the name of the affected page, and the name that it was wanted to be moved it to? When did you list it? When did he delete it? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
• Oh, I didn't list it. I just noticed it got closed after a day and reverted the closure. It was Dot Com Bubble I think (Someone proposed a move to Dot Com Boom). Can't say I support the move but a day seems a bit short a time to leave a RM up for, wanted to make sure that I was correct in reverting the closure or whether a speedy close was right in that case. Narson (talk) 13:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
• I did a speedy close because moving Dot-com bubble was frivolous and had no chance of gaining any support. There was no need to waste time over it. There was also a reference to an earlier discussion that I took into consideration. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
• The entry "*Dot-com bubble → Dot-com boom —(Discuss)— The term bubble and boom are very different, Boom refers to rising prices and profits, while bubble refers to a collapse of prices. therefore this article refers to the boom of the late 1990's. Dwilso 23:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)" is present and correct, in the 3 April 2008 section of Wikipedia:Requested moves. It points to Talk:Dot-com bubble, where there is now some discussion tending towards "do not move", so it seems that User:Narson was correct in restoring the entry in Wikipedia:Requested moves. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
• There has always been discussion tending toward "do not move". You will notice that I made no attempt to assert myself, but I see no valid reason for restoring the entry in RM, other than "gosh that disappeared quickly". I see that someone else agrees with me (PeterSymonds), and has also closed it early, although at this point we are getting closer to the 5 days. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 16:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Username?

moved from user talk 199.125.109.102

• If you are going to get seriously involved in discussions etc, why not get yourself a username so you can log in? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I have zero interest in registering a username. 199.125.109.102 (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hatlink of page Shahadah

• As you have added hatlink to shahadah page. If I type shahada it goes to shahadah as it should go to shahada instead of shahadah. previously it was fine whenever I type shahada it was going to Shahada city. Not Shahadah, As per the spelling it should go to shahada city instead of shahadah. If any body want to visit shahadah he should type shahadah not shahada. So my request you to is whenever anybody type Shahada it should go to Shahada city not shahadah. As it was previously working fine so my request to you is do the need full.... thanks KuwarOnline (talk) 09:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Most of the links to page Shahada are about the Islamic Shahadah. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • but thats typo error whomever added should be corrected...that doesnt means that we can change the redirection of article due to these kind of typo errors...that should be corrected. KuwarOnline (talk) 10:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• The Arabic word شهادة is transcribed as "Shahada" more often than as "Shahadah". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  • • No, I born and boughtup in shahada, but no buddy knows how the name given to the town. why dont you change the name of the article to shahada rather than shahadah —Preceding unsigned comment added by KuwarOnline (talk • contribs) 13:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Can you tell me please what to do with links that are already added in many pages and that was linked to shahada not shahada, Maharashtra now that are redirected to shahadah, which is invalid. This is not one case to change there are many more link now got invalid due to your redirection of page shahada to shahadah. Due to this all article who was having shahada city reference now get directed to shahadah which is not valid. suggest please. KuwarOnline (talk) 10:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
• Unfortunately, most uses of the spelling "Shahada" among literature and writing in general refer to the piece of Islamic Arabic text. I did not redirect page shahada to shahadah; I moved page shahadah to shahada. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Well what to do with the pages that are suppose to redirect at shahada city now they are redirecting to shahadah after you moved the shahadah to shahada. Now All the pages from india now get invalid link to shahada means showing shahadah contents. why dont you keep the past things that was working fine. KuwarOnline (talk) 10:32, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
• About 400 pages pointed to page Shahada, and of them nearly all were about the piece of Arabic text: see Special:WhatLinksHere/Shahada. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Sakura

• Hi there. Sakura's already been through the requested moves and it's in the backlog, with all four !voters supporting the move to Cherry blossom. The discussion's been inert for some time, and therefore I didn't see any reason why the move couldn't take place. The deletion notice was part of the move process. Have I acted in error? Best, PeterSymonds | talk 10:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Talk:Sakura#Requested move lists 9 objectors. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• That was September 2007. The current discussion is at the bottom of the page. PeterSymonds | talk 10:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Now that this move is listed in Wikipedia:Requested moves, perhaps wait a week to see how the discussion goes. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Well, okay, but the discussion (Talk:Sakura#Requested move: Cherry blossom) was worked out between the involved editors, and stopped on 3 April. You might want to remove the entry that's in the RM backlog if the discussion's being restarted. Best, PeterSymonds | talk 10:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

English M.E.T.A.S.

• Hi Anthony, I know you're just doing your job, but I'm familiar with Wikipedia, and I think you made a mistake. I work for a small English school in Barcelona Spain at the moment, English M.E.T.A.S. It's a legitimate, tax-paying school, doing things legitimately different than the larger ones. There are plenty of English schools on Wiki. I know, becuase I was certified at one of them, and I'll be working for them this coming September in Vietnam (International House). The page wasn't spam. I'm not getting paid for this. I'm just adding to wiki. So I'm going to go ahead and re-create my page, hopefully with your support. Cheers. --J.Dayton (talk) 10:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• It still looks like an ordinary non-notable small business to me. Wikipedia is not a business directory. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Well I just started writing it! And why are you being so rude? Jesus.--J.Dayton (talk) 14:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
• Sorry. But see Wikipedia:Notability. I deleted it because another user had speedy-delete-tagged it as "This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as an article about company, corporation, organization, or group that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject.". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the history merge

Thank you for merging Portmanteau and Portmanteau word. - TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 11:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

categories

Thanks for the tip!

Bathrobe (talk) 02:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Question about history merges

Hi Anthony,

So I was just looking through WP:SPLICE and I noticed that you appear to be the master of the history merges. I'm in my third week or so of being an admin, and a big chunk of my work so far has involved closing AfD discussions. Although I avoided them at first, I've also started to close some discussions as merge--suffice to say, I have some questions that I'm hoping you could answer.

Now, my understanding based on what I've read is that, when performing these merges, preserving the history of the merged content to adhere to the GFDL is of paramount importance, and so in the handful of merges I've done I've gone ahead and merged the history of the two articles together. But from reading through your comments on WP:SPLICE, it seems that merging the histories of two pages edited simultaneously is a very Bad Thing, and so I was hoping you could provide some clarification. When closing AfDs as "merge", is it better to delete and redirect the original page before manually insert the text, redirect the page without deleting it and merge the text noting the source in the edit summary (thereby leaving regular editors technically able to revert it), or am I okay with what I've been doing?

And just as a note, I've only merged something like three or four articles, all the merges have been in the last few days, and the low number of revisions in the source items merged means that I could undo any damage with a minimum amount of fuss. In other words, it should be pretty easy to un-muck anything that I may have mucked up :) Thanks in advance for your help! --jonny-mt 05:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• If, e.g. someone started a page X, and someone else started a page Y, both about the same subject, and both are edited various times, and after a while they need to be merged, with X as the article and Y as a redirect to X, DO NOT merge their histories (e.g. by "delete X, move Y to X, undelete X"). That would result in X's old edits and Y's old edits being mixed regardless in one date order. During the text merge, merely do this, to note the merge:
  • Leave in X an edit comment "merged from Y".
  • When you change Y into a redirect to X, give that edit the edit comment "merged to X".
    • In both cases, perhaps plus a link in the edit comment to any discussion about the merge.
  • History merging is only to rejoin a page's history after a cut-and-paste move. In page Y, click the "watch" tab to put page Y on your watch list. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

All right, so the history merging is indeed a bad thing; I'll cut it out and try to go back and undo any damage I've done. But what about when the result of an XfD discussion is to merge the content? I know that when the result is "redirect" it actually means "delete and redirect"--is this the same for merges, or would doing so violate the GFDL? --jonny-mt 05:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• Use cut-and-paste to add (not overwrite) the contents of page Y into page X. Sort out and tidy the result by editing page X. Change Y into a redirect to X. Do not histmerge. Note in X's and Y's edit comments what happpened. With a text merge, this dilemma happens. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, although I have one final question. When an AfD discussion results in a consensus of merge, should I delete Page Y after adding its contents into Page X? Although not deleting it would mean that the history remains visible and thus the GFDL requirements could be easily fulfilled through comments in the edit summaries as you mentioned, it would also mean that a user unhappy with the merge would be able (technically-speaking) to revert my changing of Page Y into a redirect and continue working on the old version of the article against consensus. Is deleting Page Y before creating a new redirect with a summary of "Content was merged to Page X per consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Foo" sufficient to link the two together, or do the histories of both need to be visible to satisfy the licensing requirements? --jonny-mt 06:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• If users are likely to want to type the name of Y when looking for information, then page Y better stay, as a redirect to page X. In page Y, click the "watch" tab to put page Y on your watch list. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

All right, so the history should be left visible. Sorry for all the questions, but thanks for the clarification! --jonny-mt 02:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Haribo

• I noticed you did some work on the Haribo talk page. I also noticed that the contents of that talk page have been deleted sometime in the last 24 hours, and obviously that's not good. I either don't know how to recover it or don't have the access rights. Can you do anything about this? Thanks, ~~ DaRkAgE7 (talk) 19:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Talk:Haribo has had only 2 edits, and both are merely templated class headings. Talk:Haribo's log (of deletes etc) has no entries. I moved HARIBO to Haribo at 23:00 on 26 January 2008. Talk:HARIBO has no undeleted edits, and one deleted edit, which is a redirect to Talk:Haribo. Can you supply more information? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I think my memory is going bad and I'm getting it confused with another talk page. After thinking about it further, never-mind completely, everything is as is should be. :) ~~ DaRkAgE7 (talk) 06:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Edwin Astley rename

Hello - many thanks for renaming the Ted Astley article. It's greatly appreciated Howie ☎ 19:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Susan Mayer

An article that you have been involved in editing, Susan Mayer, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Mayer. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ultra! 22:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

GFDL-en

• I object to the "uncontroversial" move of GFDL-with-disclaimers to GFDL-en. The former name has the virtue of being explanatory. The latter name is vague and arguably misleading (it's not simply EN's version of the GFDL). The fact that Commons, a multi-lingual environment, has historically chosen to use a poorly descriptive name is not a good enough reason for this move. Also, I'm not at all sure what the problem would be since Commons already has a redirect at GFDL-with-disclaimers.

  In the spirit of WP:BRD, I would ask that you revert those moves and allow for a discussion of the issue. Dragons flight (talk) 00:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

• This affects Template:GFDL-with-disclaimers and Template:GFDL-self-with-disclaimers‎. Sorry. I was obeying this edit by User:White Cat of Wikipedia:Requested moves#Uncontroversial proposals. I have left notes in User talk:White Cat#Move of two templates and User talk:Mark#Moves of two templates.

  Moves:

  Around 04:29, 18 April 2008 User:Mark moved them back to the ---with-disclaimers names.

  Around 04:50, 18 April 2008 User:Mark moved them back to the --en names.

  I have again moved them back to the ---with-disclaimers names.

  Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

• I had a long talk with White Cat on IRC after blocking his bot and moving the templates back, in which he explained the rationale for moving them to this title (when free images are copied to Commons, the templates are typically kept, but the "GFDL-with-disclaimers" title is unfortunately used on various projects to mean different things, because they all have their own different sets of dislcaimers. So different titles need to be used for the different projects otherwise licensing problems develop on Commons. Since that seems to be a legitimate reason for moving the templates, I undid my moves and unblocked the bot. I also asked White Cat to provide his explanation of the moves on the talk pages of the two templates. - Mark 05:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
• I have posted a detailed rationale on the template talk page. If it is all the same for all parties, lets continue the discussion there. -- Cat ^chi? 05:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • That answer is on Template talk:GFDL-with-disclaimers and Template talk:GFDL-self-with-disclaimers. It says:

Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

So what is the plan? -- Cat ^chi? 07:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I left a response at Template talk:GFDL-with-disclaimers. I understand wanting to help Commons, but we shouldn't have to harm the intelligibility of enwiki to do that, and this move makes it far less clear what the purpose of the template is. So I am still opposed to it. However, perhaps we can reach a compromise of some sort, like "GFDL-en-with-disclaimers", both here and at Commons. Dragons flight (talk) 07:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

speedy deletion

Thanks 4 deleting it. Man, you guys are fast. Nothing444 15:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Wood Bros. Racing

• The edit you did on Wood Bros. Racing was incorrect. JTG racing is no longer part of Wood Bros. Racing. I reverted the page past your edits. JTG racing is now it's own team & Wood Bros. race is still itself. Braandpantiesmatch (talk) 18:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for finding it and correcting it. Use4:Cmjc80 was badgering me to make a complicated set of history-splits and history-merges on Wood Brothers Racing and JTG Racing etc as described in Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen#Queried requests. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Corinthians F.C.

• Thanks for moving the article. Could you do the same with the associated talk pages, please?

  Also, there are the related categories - Category:Corinthians F.C. and Category:Corinthians F.C. players, which should be moved to Category:Corinthian F.C. and Category:Corinthian F.C. players. Cheers. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 21:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

• Category:Corinthians F.C. to Category:Corinthian F.C. and the talk page move  Done. I called for Category:Corinthians F.C. players to Category:Corinthian F.C. players in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy, as it has 39 members whose category lines would all need editing - better get a bot to do it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

... for the Augrabies Falls page move. Zaian (talk) 11:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Viluppuram (town)

Dear Anthony,

Thank you very much for moving page Viluppuram (city) . --Logic riches (talk) 14:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Review Request

• Hi Anthony Appleyard. I noticed you have made a lot of edits to the helmet article. I have recently posted a new article entitled Association football headgear, which is a type of headgear/helmet worn in soccer. If you had the time and could look over my article, any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! Swanyk (talk) 01:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
• I have tidied Association football headgear a bit. A photograph of an association football headgear would be useful, or a direct link to an external photograph image. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
• Thank you very much for your contributions to my article, I appreciate your input. I have been trying to decide how to add a photograph for awhile now, and did not know the best way of going about doing it since each brand has a different design, etc. I have added direct links to the two specific brands I talk about, DonJoy and Full90. Is this similar to what you meant in your suggestion? Thanks for the help! Swanyk (talk) 00:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Atomic hydrogen nonsense

• Do you actually think this guy is worth talking to? He labeled all his reverts 'removing vandalism', his talk page shows a bunch of warnings and no responses from him. He clearly doesn't understand wikipedia and is basically ignorant. The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 09:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
• Please keep the discussion in Talk:Atomic hydrogen and avoid ad hominem-type arguments. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Aa 09a nasasuit flagfound.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Aa 09a nasasuit flagfound.jpg. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of fair use, but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets Wikipedia's requirements for such images. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check

• That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
• That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

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• Image:Aa Heinlein spacesuit.gif
• Image:Aa 37a into the alien city.jpg
• Image:Aa 26a claiming the moon.jpg

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --21:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Other notable places in or near Shahada, Maharashtra

• Dear sir, I just wanted to know about you last edit in Shahada, Maharashtra city page. tidy addition from where you got this information please add citetion as per my knowledge the structure is still there. Well Shahada is my native place and I will contact my family and I will get this information from them too... still I wanted to know from which source you got this information???? KuwarOnline (talk) 11:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
• That information was edited in at 06:51, 23 April 2008 by User;203.124.131.85. I merely tidied his entry. Please correct it if necessary. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Sure I will do it but after confirmation from my family. As they stay nearby the same place. KuwarOnline (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 11:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

SSP to ADSP

Thanks for the move. --217.184.142.6 (talk) 21:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC) [2]

Category:Discrete chips board

• FYI, I believe that you deleted this category completely out of process. It was nominated for renaming. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
• I have undeleted Category:Discrete chips board and Category talk:Discrete chips board.
  • At 18:26, 25 April 2008 User:Fairseeder tagged Category:Discrete chips board for speedy delete "category is now renaming to Category:Discrete video arcade games", and at the same time created Category:Discrete video arcade games, since categories cannot be moved except by copy-and-paste. The category move had been done when nearly 3 hours later at 21:18, 25 April 2008 I deleted Category:Discrete chips board. The fault seems to be, that User:Fairseeder tagged using {{delete}}, which redirects to plain {{db}}, which does not state a reason; but as he had already made the new category page Category:Discrete video arcade games, the reason for wanting Category:Discrete chips board deleted was obvious. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Spud gun--bad move

• The move of Spud gun to compressed-gas-powered gun was inappropriate. Many spud guns don't work pneumatically, but by combustion. Please undo. Rracecarr (talk) 16:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I have moved this discussion to Talk:Spud gun#Spud guns which are not compressed-air-powered. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

speedy or redirect

• Lithostragigraphy. "Speedy deletion|the article has a bad name, correct name is Lithostratigraphy" I do not think that "implausible" -- the correct thing to do, per WP:CSD, is to change to a redirect. If one person makes the mistake, so will another. Please restore and change accordingly. Or send to RfD, of course. DGG (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
• There are infinity possibilities for unlikely once-off typos of long names and words. It would certainly fail AfD, and I would get the flak for wasting the AfD system's time. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

right, and the very few of the infinite ones that get made get kept. it takes more resources to remove them than keep them, and it does no harm whatsoever. .DGG (talk) 04:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for your help in the moving issue, I simply wanted to make sure I did things correctly. Thank you for pointing out the error, and the solution. Supertheman (talk) 21:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Line

Hi Anthony,

Thanks for moving Line (disambiguation) back to Line. I wasn't so much concerned that the mathematical concept be recognized as primary, but rather that Line not be a redirect.

Neelix (talk) 13:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Star Wars: The Clone Wars

• What was the reasoning behind this move? With Star Wars: The Clone Wars (video game), Star Wars: The Clone Wars (TV series), Star Wars: Clone Wars (TV series), etc., there is no valid reason I can see for removing the disambiguating "(film)" from that article. Rhindle The Red (talk) 13:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
• See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves&oldid=207403772 : "Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film) → Star Wars: The Clone Wars — Currently, the latter is a redirect to Clone Wars (Star Wars, an event in the Star Wars universe. But the exact phrase is the title of the upcoming film. I'm not sure why it would redirect to an event depicted in the film, rather than to the actual article page itself. — -Werideatdusk33 (talk) 06:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)". I have moved Star Wars: The Clone Wars back to Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
• Thank you. Rhindle The Red (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Franjo Tuđman -renaming

Hi

It seems that discussion is gone. No any more interested people neither consensus or new arguments. I think that it should be closed now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Franjo_Tu%C4%91man&action=history --Anto (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Cour d'honneur

Thank you for taking care of this. --Wetman (talk) 19:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

He keeps refusing my moves

• Look at talk:Golf club (equipment)#Requested move. This clearly should have been moved, common sense supports it. If this had not requires an administrator, I would have done it myself and no one would have objected. A few weeks ago I redirected power to power (philosophy) and no one has said anything, but if I actually made it an RM it would never get through you people. The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 21:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
• Talk:Golf club (equipment)#Requested move and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Golf_club_%28equipment%29&action=history show that this issue did not reach a consensus. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Only two users opposed it, and both were wrong. It's simply obvious that golf club (equipment) is the primary topic. The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 22:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Talk:Golf club (equipment)#Requested move still looks quite like an approximately even split to me. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
• I suppose you won't move figurehead (metaphor) either, because no one has commented on it, even though I already redirected figurehead there. The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 22:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Plain Figurehead is now a disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
    • I can't agree with creating these disambiguation pages. I thought it was a convention on Wikipedia that a disambiguation page should not generally be used if there are only two topics, but a hatnote on the page of the primary topic should suffice. It is beyond question that golf club (equipment) and figurehead (political) are the more common usages. The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 23:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
• With figurehead, it is not beyond question to me, as a look at Special:WhatLinksHere/Figurehead will show. I hear of political figureheads far more often than I hear of ship's figureheads. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

SplendidCRM

• Hi you deleted the above page even though numerous references and citations were provided - I read the corp spam policy and made sure I kept it succinct and factual rather than any form of marketing or advertising. How is(was) the SplendidCRM page any different from all the various other open-source project pages on wiki? Spacebunny99 (talk) 11:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• I have undeleted and AfD'ed it: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SplendidCRM (2nd nomination). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Thanks Anthony I'll keep an eye on it this time and make any ammendements where necessary Spacebunny99 (talk) 13:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Critique

• I think you overlooked the fact that if you clic on the above you get: Critic. --Ludvikus (talk) 22:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• Also, why is there no Disambiguation page on the difference you assert? --Ludvikus (talk) 22:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
• At 04:15, 24 December 2002 User:Hfastedge created page Critic. On 3 February 2004 User:Rbellin added to page Critic text about critique and redirected Critique to Critic.
  • I have split off page Critique. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Good work, Wikipedian! Now checkout my Copyediting of Critic (disambiguation) --Ludvikus (talk) 10:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Sky Eats Airplane

• Is there any way for me to work on an article over a few days without it getting deleted immediately?

i understand that the article Sky Eats Airplane has been deleted in the past for being non-notable, but seeing as they are scheduled to play in a major music festival this sumer (Warped Tour) i beleive they are Notable, and there is enough information on the band across the internet to support a brief biography of the band.

• (just out of curiosity, how can an album from a non-notable musical group appear on wikipedia? if the album is notable on its own, doesn't that in itself make the group notable?)

  thanks for your contributions to wikipedia

  Tingrin87 (talk) 03:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• When you edit the information into page Warped Tour, instead of trying to again create a page Sky Eats Airplane, include some direct external links to websites neutrally describing them. Page Sky Eats Airplane has been deleted 9 times already; it would take something very notable to let it survive if created for a 10th time. Not everything related to a notable topic is notable. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• i understand this fully, i just find it hard to believe that one of their albums (i think it was their debut) is well-written and considered notable, yet the band itself isn't Tingrin87 (talk) 05:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks from Slovenia

Hi

We have a problem here.

Anonymous user from Slovenia is insulting Croatia making personal attack on Croatian users and pushing his POV .

IP addresses 24.86.110.10 24.86.127.209

Moreover , he does the same thing on other articles:see here contributions: here What coud we do about it?

--Anto (talk) 19:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• I have forwarded this complaint to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#A Slovenian anon making POV remarks. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Merging the articles

• Hi again Anthony!

  Could you merge those articles Fascist Italianization and Italianization because ther is not reason for being splitted.

  We have explained on the talk pages.

  Fascist Italianization can be a separate article with more detail as

  Main article: main article

  but certainly has to be connected.

  Best regards!

  --Anto (talk) 19:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• These two pages were edited in parallel, so histmerge is impossible. The discussions about the merge look far from settled. As regards a text merge, Italianization is about Italianization in general, and Fascist Italianization is about particular events that happened during a particular time period. I am tempted them to leave them alone. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, the pages were edited in mean time. But they should be connected. Look at this category here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_assimilation

There are no such division like Germanization and Nazi Germanization , Croatization and Ustaša Croatization. So this division for italianization simply makes no sense. Fascist italianization was comitted by Italians , not by Romulans or Klingons. And it was done for "Italian resons".

And one more thing. Forced italianization did not start with Mussolini!! It dates much earlier.

--Anto (talk) 09:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanx

Thanks for the "perilous" Move. Much appreciated! --Ludvikus (talk) 16:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of CTHULHU FHTAGN

• I must have made a mistake when I copied and pasted the title into Google, because I believe I was incorrect in CSD tagging the page as patent nonsense. (The fact that the title looks like one may have mashed the keyboard with the palm of one's hand didn't exactly help matters.) Just thought it was courteous to inform you of this, should the article's creator approach you incivilly. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 19:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
• I know about the place of the alien language sentence "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" in Lovecraft's fiction. The deleted edits of page Cthulhu fhtagn were nonsense or spam promoting a religion, and nothing that belongs on Wikipedia. The pages Cthulhu#The Call of Cthulhu and The Call of Cthulhu explain the subject satisfactorily. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Another disruptive page move

See also User talk:Gnevin#National sport.

• Yesterday an editor moved National sport to List of sports popularity by country without any discussion; it can only be reverted by an admin as the redirects have been changed. Can you move it back? The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 22:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
•  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Why was this page moved , there was discussion no one objected so i moved it Gnevin (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
    • To Gnevin: please where is this discussion? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
      • He posted his suggested move on the talk page: Talk:National_sport#Suggestion and no one replied. The way, the truth, and the light (talk) 22:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
        • Thus i had consensus , something you and rouge admin here don't have Gnevin (talk) 22:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
        • Nobody spoke for OR against the idea. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

(after ec) You need to look up WP:CON, or even simply read the dicdef of consensus. "No one replied" means no response, it is not even remotely consensus. KillerChihuahua^?!? 22:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

You may be a admin but your also wrong , you moved a page where i had formed consensus's thus i am right and so am like your self ignoreing all rules since you did anyway and WP:3RR doesn't apply Gnevin (talk)

• This move should have been proposed in Wikipedia:Requested moves where everybody could see it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

As per WP:RM There is no obligation to list such move requests here; discussions of page moves can always be carried out at the article's talk page without adding an entry. This page may be seen as a place to advertise move debates that would benefit from wider community input, or for users to request assistance from administrators in moving pages. this is my last comment on this issue too yourself Gnevin (talk) 16:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Antiaris toxicaria

Thanks for the help. --Blechnic (talk) 22:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

AIDS sub-pages, one more move

• Sorry, one more request on that whole mess of moves. Could you please move Talk:AIDS/references into the 14th position, and move the current 14 and all other archives up one notch. Sorry, this is just an outstanding mess of sub-pages I'm trying to clean up. -Optigan13 (talk) 06:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
•  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Head Wrightson

Many thanks for sorting out the history merge to complete the move of Head Wrightsons to Head Wrightson. I agree that the timeline format is clearer: I only sought to change the article to essay format as my understanding is that wikipedia is not supposed to be a series of lists: my apologies if you did not like the revised format Dormskirk (talk) 22:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Pettingill family deletion

Hi, I noticed that you deleted the article Pettingill family under CSD G10 - "Pages that serve no purpose but to disparage their subject or some other entity ... sometimes called "attack pages".". Now, as you deleted it, I can't check the last state of the page to see if it was purely an "attack page" or not, however, if the Pettingill family is a notable crime family, reporting on the truth in a neutral tone, fully cited, may appear negative simply because the truth is they were unpleasant criminals. Many other crime families, for instance (just as an example) the Gambino crime family have pages on here that accurately and neutrally portray their activities, which in themselves are unpleasant - "Its illicit activities include labor racketeering, gambling, loansharking, extortion, murder for hire, solid and toxic waste dumping violations, construction, building and cement violations, fraud and wire fraud, hijacking, pier thefts and fencing." - that is simply the truth of the matter. I do believe that the Pettingill family are notable, and perhaps it would have been more appropriate to request Cleanup of the page rather than deleting it outright. This is just my opinion on the matter anyway, I'd love to hear what you think. Xmoogle (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

• See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pettingill family. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ghetto benches

• Correct term is Ghetto benches (plural) not Ghetto bench. See Encyclopedia of Antisemitism [3]. Cheers. M0RD00R (talk) 21:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
•  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Tudjman again

• Doubtless I am worn down by conflict; but closes are supposed to pay attention to the quality of the arguments, not just their volume. Could you specify which of the opposition to this move does not fall under:
  • WP:IDONTLIKEIT,
  • this is all racism against Croatians
  • I admit that Tudjman is more common, but I don't care; I oppose WP:UE.
  • and if these cover the ground, which of them you consider meritorious?
  • Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
• Likely reasons why "Tudjman" is more familiar are:
  • Most printers outside Croatia are likely to use "dj" because of difficulty producing "đ". Same as, in Icelandic names, "þ" and "ð" are sometimes rendered as "th" and dh".
  • Racism does not come into it.
  • Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Fisherman

• Hi Anthony. I am trying to rationalize the categories for Wikiproject:Fisheries and Fishing. I just deleted Category:Fishing industry for the article Fisherman. I retained Category:Fishing, which includes the fishing industry. But you have reinstated it. Would you mind telling me what your reasoning is? --Geronimo20 (talk) 06:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
• Fisherman being in Category:Fishing industry seemed suitable. Category:Fishing industry has many other members. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand you. Category:Fishing industry is a subset of Category:Fishing. The term Fisherman is not just applied to commercial fishermen, it is also applied to recreational fishermen. This is all covered by the single category Category:Fishing. There is no need for Category:Fishing industry, which is redundant. --Geronimo20 (talk) 10:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Institute for Business Value

Anthony, you just deleted a page that i was working on for the IBM Institute for Business Value as blatant advertising. In creating it we tried to be factual, using pages such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scripps_Research_Institute as an example. Are you saing that because it hs IBM on the front, there cannot be an entry because by definition, any mention of a company name is advertising? Ibvposter (talk) 15:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hindu Temple in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada

Hi Mr. Appleyard,

You have recommended removal of the entry on the Hindu Temple (St. John's) stating that it is a blatant advertisement, and have also retitled it Mount Pearl Hindu Temple.

The original article was posted by me just as information to those who visit the city and look for a Hindu worship place. In November 2007, the page was tagged with an advise to include citations to establish validity of the entry. Subsequently, in early January 2008, I edited the entry to add citations. There is no intent to advertise here as this is the only Hindu temple in 1000 kilometer radius.

By the way, the revised title is not appropriate as the temple has been relocated from Mount Pearl to St. John's (two adjacent cities) in 1995. St. John's Hindu Temple would be more appropriate.

If you let me know which part of the entry appears to be an advertisement, that part could be properly edited. Thank you for your help.

Dr. R. Venkatesan Former President of the St. John's Hindu Temple —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sobhanavenkatesan (talk • contribs) 00:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

---

• This page is now in St. John's Hindu Temple (Newfoundland).
  • At 10:42, 6 April 2008 User:DaGizza speedy-delete-tagged it {{db-spam}} "there are so many links, come on".
  • At 18:51, 6 April 2008 User:Anthony Appleyard changed the speedy-delete-tagging into an AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mount Pearl Hindu Temple (St.Johns, Newfoundland) with first message "Was speedy-delete-tagged {{db-spam}}, but seems to have possibilities to me.".
  • The page seems OK to me. Best query with User:DaGizza.
  • Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Mr. Appleyard,

Many thanks to your quick and able help to improve the entry for St. John's Hindu Temple. As suggested by you, we will include a good photograph. Thanks again.

Venkatesan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sobhanavenkatesan (talk • contribs) 10:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Ships of Canadian Pacific Steamships

My watchlist shows that you helped solve the problem I seem to have encountered in changing the disambiguation dates which distinguish Canadian Pacific Steamships ocean liners named Empress of Britain .... Thank you. --Tenmei (talk) 02:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

spud gun

• I thought I had come up with a solution--an article called spud gun (cannon), and one called spud gun (toy), with compressed-gas-powered gun redirecting to spud gun (cannon). But you reverted before I could even get it all straight. Why are you messing up the spud gun page? Who ever heard of a "compressed-gas-powered gun"?? Where is your concensus? Without discussion, you are moving a page which has been around for a long time, to which you have contributed little, to a silly name? Rracecarr (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• It is a gun and it is powered (usually) by compressed gas, with or without help from a low-powered inflammable gas explosion. And its topic includes guns made for practical use which do not fire potato and are never called spud guns. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• This is nuts. They are called spud guns, not compressed gas powered guns. I can't move the history because of the redirect, so I have no choice but to copy and paste. Please undo your inappropriate move. Thank you. Rracecarr (talk) 13:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• I have listed it in Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Incomplete_and_contested_proposals to find what opinion and discussion say. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Interested to hear what the major contributors have to say. Wonder why User:Mortus Est hasn't weighed in... Rracecarr (talk) 13:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

FYI : ReUser_talk:Gnevin#National_sport

Wikipedia_talk:Consensus#WP:CON Gnevin (talk) 14:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Dean Richards

A few days ago I asked you to revert the copy and paste move between Dean Richards and Dean Richards (rugby player). After that, User:Londo06 has done it again twice, once after I told him not to do it again. Can you look at it and leave him a message about it? Thanks! Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

So for only two people with the same name we disambiguate at the expense of an England international. I could totally understand if there were three or more, but...Londo06 08:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Move assist?

• Hey there. I see you do moves regularly... it's an area I've never messed with administratively, and I could use a hand with a request I've got, just to be sure I don't screw up. Could you take a look at this section of my talk page, and maybe see if it's appropriate to make the move, then let me know the best way to do it? Much appreciated! Tony Fox (arf!) 06:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
•  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Erm, explain please.

• Please see this section that you restored. [4]. I removed it, and included a small comment in the "Torture" plot element. I'm doing what I can to improve WP:24. Actually, just a secret..I co-ordinate it :) Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 05:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

  Look at this,

  Torture: Jack and others employ the use of torture or threats of torture in nearly every situation in order to extract information. In most cases, the torture is justified as serving the greater good, although there is sometimes a conflict of interest in which torture is also motivated by revenge. CTU has also employed the use of hyoscine-penothal, a fictional pain-inducing drug, in time-sensitive interrogation sessions[25]. This has been used on both agents and antagonists.

  • Is the rest really necessary, from that huge chunk of info? Was it really necessary to be in the article as such a large section? I think not, therefore, I condensed the information, and removed the large, overdetailed explanation. I want to get that to GA one day, (already done for Martha Logan, 100 edits). Please understand where I'm coming from here. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 05:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
• See Talk:24 (TV series)#Hyoscine-pentothal. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied there. Are you satisfied with the version? Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 20:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of March Information Systems

Hi.

Your speedy deletion of March Information Systems has left me somewhat at a disadvantage, as this article has been on WP for several years and I no longer have a good memory of its content. However I would have said that the company should not have any problems meeting the secondary source based notability requirements laid down in WP:CORP. For example the article [5].

Whether that was actually cited in the article, I have no way of knowing. But if you are prepared to reinstate the article, I will certainly add that cite. If you still feel an article is not merited, then we can go through WP:AFD. -- Chris j wood (talk) 10:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Page humanbeings

• Why did you delete my page that I have created? I created a perfectly reasonable page I even explained what the meaning was and the reason that it was created. So why did you delete it? It took me ages to create that webpage and you nicely deleted the page for me thanks alot. (Not) Madman2008 (talk) 18:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
• The page was Human beings scribblewiki, which I deleted at 18:18, 13 May 2008 "A7 (web): Web content; doesn't indicate importance/significance". Its page history is:
  • 18:15, 13 May 2008 . . Delicious carbuncle (896 bytes) (Requesting speedy deletion (CSD A7).)
  • 18:12, 13 May 2008 . . Madman2008 (885 bytes) (Humanbeings.scribblewiki the only wiki where you can say what you want when you what about what ever you want to say it about.)
  • 17:48, 13 May 2008 . . Booglamay (285 bytes) (Requesting speedy deletion (CSD G2). (TW))
  • 17:46, 13 May 2008 . . Madman2008 (273 bytes) (My Page)
    • If I undeleted and AfD'ed it, it would certainly be voted for "delete as spam". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
• Afd It then Madman2008 (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
• It is spam. It has no hope of surviving an AfD. See User talk:Madman2008#Your page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your Herculean work at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Affirmative

Hi Anthony,

I would like your input on Talk:Affirmative. Thanks so much for all your help over the past while in facilitating my requests to move pages to more appropriate titles.

Neelix (talk) 12:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Helmet

Regarding this, I didn't reduce the size of the image gallery but the editor who did is likely referring to the box at the bottom of the page:

→Wordbuilder (talk) 15:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Labour India

• Hi Anthony Appleyard, I noticed that you have moved Labour India Publications to Labour India. Don't you think that Labour India Publications Ltd. is the appropriate title as it is per the full name of the company and looks ok. I think it is always fine if we use the full name of the company. --Avinesh Jose  T  05:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• This move was per a request in [6]: "Labour India Publications → Labour India — projected and popular name, the firm's website also sports this name — Uzhuthiran (talk) 13:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)".

  Note that pages Labour India and Labour india have been deleted 5 times for advertizing:

  01:17, 23 October 2007 Espresso Addict (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (Deleted perWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Labour india)

  11:58, 12 October 2007 Number 57 (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (CSD G11: Blatant advertising)

  06:00, 12 October 2007 Pascal.Tesson (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour india" ‎ (It is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person;that would equire a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. (CSD G11))

  09:13, 12 October 2007 Lectonar (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (G11)

  14:10, 11 October 2007 Lectonar (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Labour India" ‎ (G11)

  Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• • Okay, I knew it was deleted in many occasions. That was due to lack of references and written in a poor ad style. However, it is ok in its present status (later contested drv as completely re-writeen). Additionally, the requested move doesn’t give any valuable reason as the company’s official name is Labour India Publications Ltd. But I also agree that it is well known as “Labour India”. My concern is about don’t you think that to give the full name of the company i.e Labour India Publications Ltd?. --Avinesh Jose  T  06:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Please also note that user:avineshjose is bent on removing templates from the two related articles full of incoherent sentences. Uzhuthiran (talk) 05:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• Not only by me. See the history of the article, User:Rashtrakooda started adding the template & User:Uzhuthiran has come to the picture then. You can also see that another established editor reverted the edit. Still, Uzhuthiran adding the template. What I should deal with it? --Avinesh Jose  T  06:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• I have tidied the grammar in page Labour India. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU has a new format

Due to popular demand, HAU has a new look. Since the changes are so dramatic, I may have made some mistakes when translating the data. Please take a look at WP:HAU/EU and make sure your checkmarks are in the right place and feel free to add or remove some. There is a new feature, SoxBot V, a recently approved bot, automatically updates your online/offline status based on the length of time since your last edit. To allow SoxBot V to do this, you'll need to copy [[Category:Wikipedians who use StatusBot]] to your userpage. Obviously you are not required to add this to your userpage, however, without this, your status will always be "offline" at HAU. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Auschwitz rubble

• Hi Anthony, what reference do you have from a notable Holocaust denier questioning the absence of bricks around the ruins of the crematoria? Regards, WilliamH (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• A UK television program that I saw several years ago. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 17:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It'd be great if you can cite it. Cheers. WilliamH (talk) 18:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Alison#User: Yellow Bentines!

• I am wondering why this got deleted as it was a detailed description of the band. It did not break any of the rules up on the list so i cannot see why it has been deleted. Can you please confirm with me why these actions were taken so i can be in peace. (YB-steph (talk) 10:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC))
  • User:DeadlyAssassin speedy-delete-tagged Yellow bentines as "non notable band" at 09:56, 18 May 2008. There are millions of music bands. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeh and they are starting to get big. Its people like you who prevent these bands for getting heard. And not just that they are mentioned in the Connect Festival so why cant they get a page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by YB-steph (talk • contribs) 11:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Please dont make me laugh yeh they are unsigned but its strange isnt it they dont want a record deal because they would rather work independly. They had an offer which they turned down because they wanted to be indepent. So please can you just leave the page allow as it isnt to harm to anyone!

OH and sorry i forgot

(YB-steph (talk) 11:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC))

• When this band becomes notable (see WP:NN and WP:MUSIC), an article about this band is likely to survive.

  Re "Its people like you who prevent these bands for getting heard": Wikipedia is not an advertizing billboard: see WP:SPAM. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

James Taylor move

• Hi. I see you've done a move of James Taylor to James Taylor (American musician) and put the disambig page at James Taylor. What was the rationale for this? I've always thought that the previous naming was correct per WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. Didn't this merit some discussion or an RfM first? If the move holds, what is your plan for fixing the hundreds of links to James Taylor that now go to a disambig page instead of the American musician? Wasted Time R (talk) 12:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• But is James Taylor (American musician) a dominant meaning? James Taylor lists 17 other people with the same name. OK, OK, I have put James Taylor pack to being the musician. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for restoring it. Yes, I believe the American musician is quite dominant. The other musicians are not nearly as well-known as him, and the other people are mostly fairly obscure historical figures. If you check the "What links here" counts for each of them, you'll find the American musician ahead of all the others by one or two orders of magnitude. I'm not sure what other metrics people use to determine WP:PRIMARYUSAGE, but I'm willing to defend this placement at a WP:RM if you want to raise it there. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Jakadocius

• Hello, Could you please send me a reply regarding the reasoning for removing the Jakadocius article so I may better know what to use in the future concerning notable information for this entertainer. Where do I go to get a copy of the text in this deleted article? User:Z92801 (User talk:Z92801) 10:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• At 08:28, 18 May 2008 User:Blowdart speedy-delete-tagged page Jakadocius as "not notable". See WP:NN and WP:MUSIC. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Alex Rodríguez

• There is a slight complication with this move. The original page was at Alex Rodriguez, and was moved without discussion. After the move the page was edited to change "Rodriguez" to "Rodríguez".[7] I do not think that any of this is correct -- see baseball-reference.com, ESPN, and his official site at MLB.com (the flash animation at the top even shows his signature with an Anglicised 'i'). But now that you moved the page to the suggested title, the original page has been edited to redirect again. Could you restore it to the original location? Aspie rational (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• The request to move from Alex Rodriguez to Alex Rodríguez is at this link:

"*Álex Rodríguez → Alex Rodríguez —(Discuss)— There is no accent above the 'A'. --Ksy92003 (talk) 01:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

**No need for admin assistance. Current article location was a recent, undiscussed move and should be reverted. Aspie rational (talk) 11:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)"

• I have moved Alex Rodríguez back to Alex Rodriguez back. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:24, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• I had discussed this briefly at User talk:Chrisjnelson. It is very uncommon for English websites to include accent marks in names that normally require one. In the Spanish language, an accent mark is required over the 'i' in his last name. The accent mark won't show up on English websites. However, if you Google "Alex Rodriguez" in Spanish, you can see the accent mark occurs on almost all the hits. Ksy92003 (talk) 02:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Aa asbo metronews typo.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Aa asbo metronews typo.jpg. You've indicated that the image meets Wikipedia's criteria for non-free content, but there is no explanation of why it meets those criteria. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have any questions, please post them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.

Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 12:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

•  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Assistance please?

Hello Anthony Appleyard,

I noticed that you deleted Tom Falcone after I nominated that article for speedy deletion. I have nominated the article about the band itself "Cute Is What We Aim For" for the same reason, but it appears that either a member or friend of the band has removed my nomination for speedy deletion there. I reverted it, but could you look at it yourself? I nominated it for the same reason. This band has made no impact whatsoever on music, or the music industry. I am currently working on an addition to the Buffalo, New York article that will name specific artists of some note from Buffalo, and any mention of this particular band belongs anywhere, it would belong there, and that's iffy in itself.

Thanks for your time, Osirisrising (talk) 15:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Erm...

• Why'd you do that...? :P weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 15:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• I was trying to make a visible table of contents, in case I needed to send you a message about you removing speedy-delete tags from page Cute Is What We Aim For. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
  • There's one there already... weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• Sorry. I found it afterwards. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

CIWWAF

The tag clearly states: If this page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice. It certainly does not meet the criteria. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

IndyCar move

• I notice that you moved the article to Indycar. I don't remember seeing any discussion on the talk page or at WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing. I'm not sure that it should be undone, but I am curious why it get moved. Royalbroil 20:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• This edit of Wikipedia:Requested_moves has "*IndyCar → Indycar - Shouldn't have camelcase on a disambig page Cmjc80 (talk) 22:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

I just wanted to thank you for taking care of my requested page move. I know this can be a thankless task and I thought you might like a little recognition for you work. Coaster1983 (talk) 22:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Renewable energy commercialisation in Australia

• Hi Anthony. You recently moved this page and I'm wondering what your thinking was behind this move please. My hope would be that you are planning to add relevant content that would relate to the newly expanded scope. As you would be aware this is a WP:GA/ high importance article so I think it is worth discussing these things, so that we can maintain the quality of the article. Johnfos (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
• As requested in [8]: "* Renewable energy commercialisation in Australia → Renewable energy in Australia — This is the standard name for all of the "Renewable energy in country" articles. Commercialisation is redundant. — 199.125.109.80 (talk) 01:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
• Thanks for your reply, but this was clearly not an "uncontroversial" move, as I had reverted a similar move previously. The word "commercialization" is not redundant and has the purpose of focusing the article, in a way that relates to Renewable energy commercialization and other articles such as Renewable energy industry.

  If no content on hydroelectricity etc. is soon added to the article then I will revert the move, so that the article name relates to article content, and so that the articles GA integrity remains intact. Where GA or FA articles are involved I think it is always prudent to raise the move on the Talk page, for discussion.

  199.125..., who requested the move, has a long history of operating "behind the scenes" rather than getting a user name and interacting normally with other users. This can be counterproductive at times, and I've recently had a request for advice from User:Mrshaba about how to handle this (in relation to another page), and hope you don't mind if I refer him to you for advice. Johnfos (talk) 04:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• I have moved Renewable energy in Australia back again. I have left a message in User talk:199.125.109.80. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
• Thank you, Anthony, appreciate it... Johnfos (talk) 05:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

  Someone is being silly, and it isn't me. Move it back. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 05:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

  Actually I have added this to RM so that others can weigh in on this silliness. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 05:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

  Actually, since I just added a whole section on hydro, per the above request, if Johnfos agrees, I will just withdraw the RM and let you move it back to RE in Australia. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 05:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It's late and I will look at the article again tomorrow... Johnfos (talk) 10:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Take your time... I'm just saying that you can't create a subarticle of RE in Australia before you create the main RE in country article. And commercialization is far too narrow a focus for a subarticle of most in country articles. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 16:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks... I will take my time... there is no rush...

You will gather from what I've said above that I am not totally against the move. It's just that it would be good if it could proceed in an orderly way, following discussion on the Talk page, bringing in extra content as needed, while maintaining article quality. Anyway, I will write more about this on the article Talk page in a few days.

In the meantime, if you could see your way clear to "building some bridges" with Mrshaba, that would be a good thing... Johnfos (talk) 20:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Disruption by IP user 199.125.109.XXX

Hello Anthony

Johnfos referred me here and I can see why. IP user 199.125.109.XXX has been disrupting a number of pages over the last year: Hydrogen, electric car, solar energy, wind power, nuclear power, template talk pages etc. General areas of disruption include incivility, POV, ignoring RFCs, multiple reverts, and consistently poorly sourced and factually incorrect edits. In the words of one editor, "My experience was that this person used a number of IPs to edit the domain of articles in a manner that... well I don't know if there was ever any content creation." It is my understanding that long term disruption can constitute vandalism. Yesterday I tracked some of the edits made by the IP that are packaged together here. What can be done? Mrshaba (talk) 15:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• Has anyone tried to track this IPA to its physical location? As this IPA address's last number varies, is it a family of IPA's at a school or similar? Or what? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
• And see this edit. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The IPA is in New Hampshire. The address looks like it belongs to a community center or small school located in a park. It's not a residence.

There are many such pages. Mrshaba (talk) 15:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

• Would both of you just chill out? What on earth would you want the physical location for? Were you planning on bringing over tea and crumpets? If so, I will pass, thank you very much. I do not "disrupt". I make valid improvements. If that is what you call a disruption, we need a lot more of them. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 00:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Anthony. The troubles have continued with this IP user. Do you think anything can be done? Mrshaba (talk) 23:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

• His list of user contributions shows that he started on 22 June 2007. On 6-7 December 2007 he made around or over 100 edits with edit comment "move portal to proper section"; of those, those that I looked at were moving a portal link from the start of the page to the ==See also== section. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

  Uh, that's where they go. Read {{portal}}. You are blocking me for making 100s of productive edits? What???? 199.125.109.136 (talk) 01:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

• Threaten to block? But if this IPA, or group of IPA's (ref. the message above starting "The IPA is in New Hampshire ..."), is used by many people, blocking it would penalize all those people, not only the culprit. If possible, try contacting the community center's manager or small school's headmaster by email or letter explaining what has happened? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
• OK... My follow up question is, can an IP range be blocked on specific articles where disruption is occuring? Mrshaba (talk) 15:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
• I have asked in Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Can_an_IPA_range_be_blocked_on_specific_articles_where_disruption_is_occuring?. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
• Which pages are affected?, so I can semiprotect them. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
• There's recent activity on Nuclear Power, Solar energy, Renewable energy commercialisation in Australia, Contra dance, and David Robertson (conductor) pages. Most of this anon's activity is on the talk pages. This user also seems to have a history of getting into page move/rename debates.Mrshaba (talk) 15:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
• I have semiprotected Solar energy, Renewable energy commercialisation in Australia, Contra dance, and David Robertson (conductor) pages. Nuclear Power was already semiprotected. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

  My dear Anthony. You must be a (unkind word deleted) to think that I can not take 10 seconds to create a username and continue to edit your preciously protected articles. However, you are clearly violating WP policy, as protection can not be used to allow one editor's viewpoint to be chosen over that of another. Anything you wish to say to me you can say it here. I guarantee I will read it. Please unprotect solar energy. As stated by the admin who unprotected it, after Mrshaba asked that solar energy be re-semi-protected, "If I did that it would be a violation of protection policy - semi-protection can generally only be used on articles to keep out vandals and disruptive editors when blocking is not a feasible option. It must not be used just to keep out unregistered users, and definitely not to resolve content disputes, which this appears to be. This user seems to me to be a knowledgeable good faith contributor, try and settle this with the user on the talk page, maybe requesting a third opinion would be a good idea here. If edit warring gets out of control the article may be protected, but it will be full protection to give fairness to all those in the dispute." 199.125.109.136 (talk) 01:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

  • See also Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive421#Mrshaba. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Which says the same thing. It's a content dispute. You don't resolve them by blocking one of the two editors. You resolve it by blocking both or none. Please unprotect all of the above. 199.125.109.136 (talk) 06:41, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• Please unprotect Renewable energy in Australia, Contra dance, and David Robertson (conductor). All were inappropriately permanently semi-protected, and should all be unprotected. Thanks. 199.125.109.136 (talk) 07:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
  • See above. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Morbid Axe:

• Why did you delete Morbid Axe? and it is a band!  Demon Hunter Rules  (—|—) 19:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
• At 04:59, 23 May 2008, User:C1k3 speedy-delete-tagged it {{db-band}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
• Well he said he did not delete the page. Demon Hunter Rules(—) 18:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
• It is a band, but is it a notable band? Wikipedia has not got the room to record every minor backstreet popular music band that forms and records a few records. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

PALAEOS

• Is this your account on Palaeos.org[9]? I am curious because the Grawp vandal who has been active on both Palaeos.org and wikipedia has also made impersonator accounts on palaeos.org.--Fang 23 (talk) 01:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
• I am a member of Palaeos, but not an administrator there. I did make all 3 of the contributions to Palaeos which are listed under my name there. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Sorry to bother you about this again, but you have yet to update your information at Highly Active Users. If you do not update your entry, it will be removed within 48 hours. Thanks. Useight (talk) 16:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Reston Zoo

• Did you read my comments before this? Please do so. Tedickey (talk) 14:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
• Someone speedy-delete-tagged page Reston Zoo as "non-notable corporation". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
• I see. I commented in Nymar's changes that it might (if notable) be developed as a topic. While it's more notable than some of the ones I've objected to, it's probably not above the threshold. I understood WP:EL to frown on the embedded links - which was the point of my last change. Tedickey (talk) 14:26, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Unfair deletion

• Good evening, I was wondering why did you delete my page paradiso-fp7. Indeed, I just added a map which maybe was not appropriate because no sources were mentionned, but you should have told be first that you will delete my page... Could you please clarify your action? You can directly send me a message. Thank you very much. Tabbealumpp (talk) 15:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
• At 01:45, 25 May 2008 User:DrExtreme speedy-delete-tagged it {{db-ad}}. I have undeleted it and AfD'ed it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paradiso-fp7. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for keeping my link up to date. I find that page useful for keeping an eye on articles via the "related changes" feature. Mjroots (talk) 05:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

from April8

Thanks very much for moving redirect page "7 laws of noah" to "7 Laws of Noah" today. I'm a new Wikipedia editor, so couldn't yet try to move it myself (haven't yet made 10 edits). I know this is silly perfectionism, but I was wondering why typing in search for "7 laws of noah" still redirects one to the main page "Seven Laws of Noah" from old redirect page "7 laws of noah", rather than new, moved redirect page "7 Laws of Noah" (the old moved page is still there, in use). I don't want to take up any of your valuable time, but if you are interested in replying to me at April8, I would appreciate it (I also need to discover my way round my talk page etc. at April8!). Thanks.April8 (talk) 20:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I see the fault with Natalia's page now. I did not clarify, that the presskits were for TMZ and other such sites. Initially I came here for honest help in understanding the policy, however since you have sicked your friends on me I see that you have no interest in helping a new member. Sorry to have wasted your time. Also the item was deleted due to copyright, not advertising --FlashbackMedia (talk) 22:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Rebreather

For what it's worth, I think the very long list of commercial suppliers at rebreather is clearly a violation of WP:NOTLINK and WP:EL. It's not a big deal to me, and I'm not going to revert, but I thought I'd just let you know that it wasn't a thoughtless deletion. Deli nk (talk) 23:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with the Pina Colada move

Normally I would have done something like that myself, but I see from all your edits, it really wasn't that easy. I didn't know/think of the trick of creating a temporary holding page (version 2) to hold the page while things are moved around. Very clever. Of course, not being an admin, I'd still need someone to speedy delete the temporary page afterwards. Thanks. It was great seeing how you did all that. I appreciate the help. --Willscrlt (Talk) 23:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

John Citizen (footballer) not (football)

• G'day AA, noticed that you recently moved Jason Love to Jason Love (football). Using the guide of the existence of over 300 other Aussie rules footballer pages that use either (footballer), (Australian footballer) or (Australian rules footballer) can you try to stick to one of those forms if you have to disamb other players & not (football), (football player) or any (AFL) variations. Thanks. The-Pope (talk) 05:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
•  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

last post from April8!

• Thanks for reply. Just to fully settle my mind on this ridiculously minor topic, I thought that your answer, and the topic leaves some things unanswered. Do administrators have ability to erase a wikipedia page? Would it not be better to erase redirect page "7 laws of noah"? (leaving "7 Laws of Noah" to do the redirecting)? If such a move causes complications, and compromises the redirect link, then it would not be a good idea. So should the arrangement be left as it is? Now that I have asked all the questions, I can leave behind this topic! (If these questions are anwered!) I can't be the only person to have been slightly unsatisfied with their wikipedia contributions!April8 (talk) 20:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• This page is now in Seven Laws of Noah. As regards the redirect links, we must cater for whatever users may type in the search box when looking for information. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

why on earth...

• did you delete the jemc band page. the page was in no way irelivant. and no way conflicted with the speedy deletion criteria. It is a new music band that i have recently read about and i made sure to construct the page in the same style as simular artists such as digitalism, justice, and sebastiAn. sooo why did you delete it?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edds on (talk • contribs) 10:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• At 09:10, 30 May 2008 User:Phlegm Rooster speedy-delete-tagged it "non-notable band", so I deleted it. Page JEMC said that so far the band JEMC have recorded 5 single songs and no albums. See WP:MUSIC. If band JEMC becomes notable in the future, then someone will likely write a page about them. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Anti frogmen

• I was just posting a note on Axlq's talk page and I saw your message there. I don't know if you are aware of Wikipedia:Third opinion, which is often a good way to resolve a dispute between just two editors. I'll stay out of it since I know Axlq personally. In my view, you both have a point: the links contain good information yet they are also spammy ads. The edit history of the Kongsberg guy just screams "spammer" and any links added by that editor should be rejected automatically; the intent was clearly to advertise. That said, if the article would cite those links as references, there wouldn't be an issue about whether to include them. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• I have edited Anti-frogman techniques again. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The Last Days of FOXHOUND

• You deleted this article (The Last Days of FOXHOUND) because "Real person; doesn't indicate importance/significanc", which implies you didn't really read the article at all because the article was about a webcomic. I'd like it if this comic was brought back up and was voted on again, because the last vote on this webcomic was in 2005, and perhaps it is notable enough today.--Stripedtiger (talk) 18:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• See this AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Last Days of FOXHOUND. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• Yes, but this was two years ago, perhaps we can give this article another shot?--Stripedtiger (talk) 20:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
• I just undeleted The Last Days of FOXHOUND as the first step in AfD'ing it to get a discussion on it, and 2 minutes later someone deleted it. That ti me is fiunal proof that, if I again undeleted The Last Days of FOXHOUND, it would again be deleted as not notable. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

General Officer

• Please explain how someone can request the rename of a page, and have it happen, when there is an unresolved discussion on the matter in progress?
• Please explain why you renamed the page when the penultimate edit comment is "There has been a HUGE debate at talk:rear admiral and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. Do NOT make changes until issue resolved there?
• And by-the-way, can you tell me what was on the "General officer" page that you deleted?

Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 08:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

• User:Russ requested it as "uncontested" at 13:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC) in Wikipedia:Requested moves.

The General officer page that I overwrote had 2 edits, both redirects.

The only move discussion that I found in Talk:General Officer is about moving between General Officer and General.

Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

• Mmmm. You highlight a good point. The discussions on the abovementioned pages talk about the generic issue of changing "Xxxx Yyyy" to "Xxxx yyyy", not about the several hundred specific instances. I doubt that anyone is prepared to identify these hundreds of pages and put a note on their talk pages.

What do you advise? Pdfpdf (talk) 09:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

• Another Mmmm. User:Russ is being "economical" with the truth; If he doesn't advise anyone of his plans, then it is indeed highly likely that they will be "uncontested"! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Your assistance is requested

• I recently closed Association football in the Republic of Ireland → Football (soccer) in the Republic of Ireland —(Discuss) as no consensus as five days had passed and no consensus had been formed nor looked like was going to be anytime soon. The move proposer, User:Matt Lewis, contested my closing as it had not gone 11 days like the previous one (likely a result of our bad backlogs earlier in the year) and because "most of the 'opposers' in the first 11-day RM havent voted yet". I'd like a second opinion on my close if you have the time. Thank you. JPG-GR (talk) 18:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
• "Association football" is a formal name, "soccer" started as a slang abbreviation. Regrettably I do not follow football and I have little interest in it. I am aware that "football" means one game in UK and another game in USA. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Figures of Note

• I am a professor of interior design history and have encouraged my students (through giving them an assignment - there's no encouragement quite like a requirement) to contribute to encyclopedic knowledge regarding the history of interior design and decoration. As part of this assignment, which I have been giving for several years, they must contribute to a Wikipedia page about a person of note in interior design. This quarter, they were to contribute to information about women in the history of design. Several of the women did not previously have a wikipedia page. I am not surprised at that since the history of interior design is a relatively new area of academic study and women have, of course, been ignored or marginalized in their contributions. This was also sparked by the fact that Grace Adler (fictitious designer from Will and Grace) had more information that Ruby Ross Wood and that Vivian Woofter (head of Interior Design for the US State Department, responsible for interiors of many embassies and other state buildings all over the world) is completely absent. Many architects of lesser historical impact on the field of architecture have pages devoted to them and yet the pages created by my students continue to be marked for speedy deletion. I love Wikipedia and want to continue to have my students involved in the creation and handling of knowledge. What recommendations might you have for me that I could share with my class in terms of how to create pages that either won't be tagged or how to respond when they are tagged. I have reviewed some of the contribution pages that I have been able to find but I am still unclear on the process. Thank you and everyone at Wikipedia for providing this wonderful interaction with knowledge. Monster213 (talk) 12:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
• Which are the pages that your students created and were speedy-deleted?
  • For information about Wikipedia notability, see WP:NN.
  • The history of page Vivian woofter is:
    • At 15:05, 26 May 2008 User:Monster213 (92 bytes) (←Created page with 'Vivian Woofter is an interior designer who has worked on interiors for the state department.')
    • At 15:07, 26 May 2008 User:Excirial (103 bytes) requested speedy deletion as "not notable real person"
    • At 15:11, 26 May 2008 User:69.41.96.6 (764 bytes) changed the page to:

• • • At 15:12, 26 May 2008 User:PMDrive1061 (103 bytes) reverted the page to as User:Excirial left it.
  • Points:
    • Vivian woofter should be Vivian Woofter. See WP:MOSTM for Wikipedia practice with unusual letter casing and suchlike.
    • [[hang on]] should have been {{hangon}} with curly brackets and no space.
    • User:69.41.96.6's complaint should have been put in Talk:Vivian woofter, i.e. in its talk page.
  • Consider using the {{underconstruction}} tag.
  • Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Rebreather article

Anthony, I just wanted to let you know I've requested comments concerning the issue about the External Links in the Rebreather article. I know this is an issue you feel strongly about and you've obviously put a lot of work into that article, so I wanted to make sure you knew. Obviously we disagree as to whether the article is currently consistent with Wikipedia policy, but I do respect the work you've done on the article and your commitment to Wikipedia generally. Cheers. croll (talk) 16:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Shararat

A tag has been placed on Shararat, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Amog |^Talk 03:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Seeking advice please

• Hi Anthony. Sorry to bother you, but you are one of the few Admins that I know. I have recently made three edits to the Nuclear power page. These are the only three edits which I have made to that page in the past year. And now I have received an intimidating and threatening note on my Talk page from User:Lwnf360: User talk:Johnfos#Nuclear power article. I would like to be able to edit the page in the usual way, and would be grateful for any advice on how to proceed please... Johnfos (talk) 07:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
• The matter which you tried to insert in page Nuclear power, looks like it belongs in page Nuclear safety. If you add it there, please (1) check that your sources are NPOV, and (2) if any disagreement arises, discuss it in Talk:Nuclear safety. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, one of my contributions (on Complexity) went to nuclear safety, and it seems to be sitting there quite happily, so I have no problems with that. It's the other one (on Reliability) that seems be be causing the problem. Johnfos (talk) 10:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

European Newspaper Publishers Association

• Just wanted to draw your attention to the re-creation of this article that you deleted earlier today per my G11 nomination. It still looks spammy to me. What's the best course - tag it again for speedy or take it to Afd? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 15:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
• I have AfD'ed it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 22:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Shower edits

Hi Anthony. Thank you for your edits to Shower and Showering. Bath and Bathing also have the same problem where bath now is used as the disambiguous page, bathtub is use for the device, and bathing is used for the activity. Please move bath, bathtub, and bathing to match the changes you made to any of shower, shower (stall), showering, Shower (disambiguation). Thanks. Williamhortner (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Court martial

I would consider this move very controversial. The article was started from an American perspective [10], and the U.S. Merriam-Webster specifically uses the hyphen.[11] A move to "Court martial" would surely violate the MOS rules on changing from American to British spelling. Iamaleopard (talk) 17:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Further evidence it is a regional spelling:

• British use at BBC: [12]
• British use at Times Online: [13]
• American use at New York Times: [14]
• American use at Washington Post: [15] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamaleopard (talk • contribs) 17:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Vision_Equities

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Vision_Equities. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 68.193.10.19 (talk) 03:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Aa big fire extinguisher 00.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:Aa big fire extinguisher 00.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Sdrtirs (talk) 05:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The phrase "I created this image entirely by myself" only says that you are the copyright holder but doesn't say it's copyright status. So, please add a copyright tag. --Sdrtirs (talk) 05:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Master stream

• I am curious why you merged these articles into Fire monitor when the only two opinions expressed considered Master stream to be the preferred article title. Please explain. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 13:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
• To the general public the name "Fire monitor" shows that it is something to do with fire; but to them the name "master stream" could be anything, e.g. to many the first thought would be of data streams. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your comments, but by putting a merge template on those articles, we were attempting to obtain a concensus for a proper title, which you violated. I appreciate you trying to Be Bold, but not at the expense of what others are trying to do. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

• I have put a "contested move" request in Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Incomplete and contested proposals. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Solar energy

• Hello, I have received a request from 199.125.109.31 to review with you the semi-protection of the above article indefinitely. I declined a request earlier from Mrshaba (talk · contribs) on the grounds that semi-protection to keep 199.125.109.XXX out, who is not as far as I can see a vandal, violates the protection policy. Particularly the part Semi-protection should not be used.. ..nor should it be used solely to prevent editing by anonymous and newly registered users. In particular, it should not be used to settle content disputes. I have to conclude from this that Solar energy should unprotected, if this user is behaving inappropriately, a block should be attempted first, though I have not seen any behaviour which requires the response of revoking editing privileges. This seems to be very much content related, meaning if protection is necessary it should be full protection. I would like to receive a response back from you pointing out anything I have missed, and how you think this protection does follow the protection policy or has grounds for exception from this, or would you agree to unprotect the article? Camaron | Chris (talk) 19:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
• I have unprotected Solar energy. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
  • OK, thank you for your quick response. Camaron | Chris (talk) 21:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
    • You might want to undo the silliness of protecting all the other articles ostensibly to keep a productive editor, myself, from editing them. They are one, not articles I am interested in, and two, it keeps other IP users from contributing. Thanks in advance. 199.125.109.134 (talk) 15:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
      • Which of these articles are protected? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
        • "I have semiprotected Solar energy, Renewable energy commercialisation in Australia, Contra dance, and David Robertson (conductor) pages. Nuclear Power was already semiprotected. Anthony Appleyard" 199.125.109.134 (talk) 01:30, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Graham Clark (singer)

• I was in the middle of declining the speedy, on the basis that singing at the Met and Bayreuth is a sufficient assertion of notability for CSD purposes. A little bit of digging on Google shows potential sources for cementing the claim to notability. Any objections if I restore and improve? Bencherlite^Talk 09:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I undeleted it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Ta. A little bit more for now - I have a train to catch! Bencherlite^Talk 09:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

No Bolan, No T.Rex Petition

• Why was this page deleted?
• At 09:22 on 11 June 2008 User:Ian Rose speedy-delete-tagged it "Speedy deletion candidate - blatant promotion of an agenda and not notable in itself". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
• The article itself was an explanation of a growing movement in the Marc Bolan community. It was not an advertisement, no one is profiting off of this, it was meant simply to inform and was unbiased. I forgot to include references.. I read that I could save the template or something, so I could edit it and then post it, is there any way I can do this to work on references, as this is a notable issue, not just something out of the air. Thank you
• I could undelete it and AfD it, but the resulting verdict would very likely be "delete". Its last line "Read and find out where to sign this petition at the Marc Bolan Myspace" makes it a lot like canvassing, which counts as advertizing. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
• That was the only way I could show where the actual petition was. I tried putting the link in the article, but Wikipedia blocked it. This was the only website I could find that had an obvious link to the petition. I do think the link would be relevant to the article, is there any way to unblock the link from wikipedia? http: // www . petitiononline . com/nobolan1/petition . html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.124.221 (talk) 21:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
• The link http:// www . petitiononline . com / nobolan1 / petition . html is listed in Wikipedia's spam blacklist, and I will not be party to attempts to evade that ruling. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
• Ahh well, thank you anyway.. If it's as important as I think it is, people will hear about it anyway haha! Hopefully it will be written about in retrospect! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Automaticshoes (talk • contribs) 22:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Describing a non-profit organization - not advertising!

• On 25 May 2008 you speedy-deleted Achieve Inc on the grounds that it was 'blatant advertisement.' Achieve Inc is a non-profit organization that works with states on a wide variety of complicated education-related activities. The purpose of the creation of the wikipedia page was to give a brief overview of our history and the work going on in the 30+ states we currently work with. Many of our peer organizations - Thomas B. Fordham Foundation and Alliance for Excellent Education are two prime examples - continue to have pages on wikipedia, which is what encouraged us to start one to explain the mission and work of Achieve. We are not advertising any services, soliciting any money, or anything like that at all. We are happy to edit our page and take out some of the descriptions of our ongoing projects, if need be, but do not believe we deserve to be deleted, yet alone speedily. Please advise, thanks. Kateblosveren
• The page is Achieve, Inc with a comma. The organization may be non-profit, but in Wikipedia that style of promotionary description is still classed as advertisement. Time will show if "Achieve, Inc" becomes notable enough for third-parties to write articles about it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Albergo

This message has been moved to Talk:Albergo#Hoax?. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Moves

That's twice you've helped me out in the past 24 hours. Thanks a lot! Aille (talk) 23:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Chinese "wén"

I feel like I'm smashing my head against a stone wall with the move proposal of Chinese "wén." I present a well-documented case and I get "Most people nowadays rarely or never hear of..." Please, if you have affirmative evidence of wide usage of the current title outside of Wikipedia, please share it there. I feel like there's some big secret out there I'm not privy to. — AjaxSmack 05:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Redirect of Szczepan Bradlo

Boy, aren't you fast. You managed to delete the redirect before I got the chance to save the article I was working on, which led to it. Thanks for watching out for non-existent hot links, nevertheless, I'm poised to recreate it. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 05:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Here is the link to my new article, and below, the bot message from my Talk page.

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Szczepan Bradlo, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Szczepan Bradlo is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1).

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Szczepan Bradlo, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here CSDWarnBot (talk) 03:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Copying my work

• All you did was just copy my edits and put them into your own page when they were suitable in Baton Charge, I dont think it was really necessary also your grammar and encyclopedic writing styles you use are not the best such as replacing "officers" with "men" when the former is much more suitable, also Baton Charge is two words. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 08:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

This discussion is continued in Talk:Baton charge#Snatch squad. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I visited that page straight after you posted the link and I can see it, Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 08:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Foolander

• Hi Anthony !
  • Could you take a look at this post of our "dear friend" PMAnderson and his talking about "Fooland" and "Foolanders"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28use_English%29#GoodDay_or_the_Croatians

• • I think that this kind of rhetorics is not appropriate, especially for an administrator.

--Anto (talk) 13:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

• • I have read it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

please restore

• please restore Los Angeles Live Steamers Railroad Museum -- which indicates at least some importance as a museum. (btw, the tagger of this needs watching--he has been exceptionally overenthusiastic in placing g11s.) DGG (talk) 15:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Done. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Los Angeles Live Steamers. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:50, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
• also NOZA Inc. (DGG (talk) 15:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC))
  • If I undeleted and AfD'd NOZA, Inc., it would likeliest get the verdict "delete". Wikipedia is not a directory of charities. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for giving me a heads-up on the administrator-assisted moves. The fact of the matter is that I was simply fussing about nothing at all. I just didn't "get it" ... and I didn't even realize what I was missing.

When I explored those links at the side of each page -- aeons ago, I guess I just didn't recognize something as fundamental as 2+2=4. Somehow, I simply didn't appreciate what could result from clicking on the "What links here" option. Please join me in chuckling about my unique ability to misunderstand something which now seems so transparently obvious. --Tenmei (talk) 22:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

{{Riot-control-stub}}

Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. The stub type, which was not proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Wikipedia:Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! 02:12, 16 June 2008 User:Grutness

Venice Maki

• Hey there Anthony, You deleted Venice Maki and at the time the proper information about him was not updated. I don't know if you got the latest version of information and references but he is a national artist in the states with creditability and has been personally asked by senator Hillary Clinton to perform at one of her speech in NY. Not to mention he is also an ambassador to true compassion. org which is associated with drug free america. This isn't your average everyday person here. Please undelete it so it can be updated thanks. --Number1205 (talk) 08:42, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
• Page Venice Maki was deleted 3 times today. From the description in that page he still sounds like a run-of-the-mill popular music musician to me. If I restored and AfD'ed the page, the resulting verdict would probably be "delete".
  1. 04:29, 16 June 2008 User:RHaworth deleted "Venice Maki" ‎ (A7 (bio): Real person; doesn't indicate importance/significance)
  2. 05:47, 16 June 2008 User:Anthony Appleyard deleted "Venice Maki" ‎ (A7 (bio): Real person; doesn't indicate importance/significance)
  3. 07:03, 16 June 2008 User:Craigy144 deleted "Venice Maki" ‎ (A7 (bio): Real person; doesn't indicate importance/significance
  • Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Greetings & Readings page

I'd like to dispute your deletion of the Greetings & Readings entry. You called it blatant advertising, but the article was written objectively to talk about the company, its history, what it is, where it is and why it's important to the local community.

The article referenced several sites and articles including major local newspapers. While it lasted, it was the most informative article on the Internet about the Greetings & Readings establishment, and the only one that clearly discussed its 40 year history.

I based the layout and format of the article on existing pages such as Barnes & Noble which means this page was no more or less advertising than that one. Even during the creation of this article, I was encouraged by other Wiki pages that showed an interest in gathering collections of articles about retail establishments and thought, if anything, that this article was furthering one of Wikipedia's goals.

I was also surprised to find that you deleted my user page claiming it was a copy of the Greetings & Readings page. In fact, it was where I created the page before posting it as an active article. And now, my work, sources, references and everything have been deleted before I had the chance to fix the so-called blatant advertising. GRatHVTC (talk) 16:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

• The page is Greetings & Readings. I could undelete it and AfD it, but the verdict of that AfD would almost certainly be "delete". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:10, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

• I'd like to give it the chance. Also, any suggestions on what I could change to make it more suitable for Wikipedia would be appreciated. The establishment is mentioned on other pages and it only makes sense to answer the question of "What is that?", which one asks when reading those articles. GRatHVTC (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

• Will the page be undeleted soon? Since we've discussed it, I've found that Wikipedia has an entire section devoted to independent booksellers including organizations similar to Greetings & Readings, such as Powell's Books and Tattered Cover. The page I created was different from those in that it provided more information. Perhaps when one states what is inside a store, you (Wikipedia?) take it as advertising. I've also found a new source that I'd like to incorporate. Baltimore Smart CEO Magazine (http://www.smartceo.com/baltimore/2005.html) published an article in its December 2005 issue with even more historical information including problems with a landlord and contemplated expansions. GRatHVTC (talk) 18:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
• The links in from other pages all seemed to have been edited in by User:GRatHVTC, i.e. they were not independent third-party assessments. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

• You said you could undelete it and AfD it. When will you do this? This article is obviously suitable for Wikipedia. There are articles about similar establishments. An article about the plaza in which it has been located since the inception of that plaza. If any part of this article is advertising, let's remove it and leave the encyclopedic content in its place. GRatHVTC (talk) 13:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Jet Delivery Entry: G11

I’m wondering why the Jet Delivery article I posted last week was deleted with a reason of G11 – pages which exclusively promote some entity and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic.

The article you removed 1) does not exclusively promote any entity, and 2) fully meets the criteria for a notable topic. I don't believe that my article promoted Jet Delivery Corporation any more than the article on quantum field theory promotes quantum field theory. Or more specific to the industry in question, any more than the UPS, FedEx and/or DHL article promote those companies. That it, the article was written objectively, and from an unbiased frame-of-reference. If there is any one sentence in the entire article which exclusively promotes Jet Delivery Corporation, then what is it? And if there are more than one, then what are they? The reference section still needs some updating, but that does not mean that the information published is not verifiable (which is what Wikipedia is looking for in the first place). It simply means that it has not “yet” been verified. It’s not like the article was a metaphysical or epistemic argument; everything in the article is empirically verifiable. Again, if there is anything in the article which violates G11, what is it? And if the article topic is not a notable topic as defined by Wikipedia.org, then why not? Thank you for your help. Bbarbata (talk) 20:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

• I have undeleted it and AfD'ed it: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jet Delivery. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the opportunity to let the community decide. It looks like you deleted the four pictures I had uploaded. Can you undelete them, or should I just re-upload them? I'd like the community to get the feel of the article in its entirety.
    The names are as follows: JetDeliveryLogo.png, JetDeliveryLaverne.jpg, JetDeliveryWarehouse.jpg, JetDeliveryDataCenter.jpg
    Thanks again! Bbarbata (talk) 21:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Fifi Lapin

I put a db template on Fifi Lapin, and right before it was deleted there was a frantic plea from the creator. The author (I can't see who it was now that the page has been deleted) had also created another page that had been deleted, and had mentioned Wikipedia being against them. Would it be possible to move Fifi Lapin to the creator's userspace, to at least give them a hope of making it includable (I may have just made that word up)? Cheers! JohnnyMrNinja 09:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! JohnnyMrNinja 11:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

John Kerr

I think your rename of John Kerr to John Kerr (justice) was the wrong decision. Anyway, I've (partly) undone the move. See my comments at Talk:John Kerr (justice). Peter Ballard (talk) 12:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

You deleted the page, ID-JR , fixing my accident quite speedily. :)--Thecurran (talk) 13:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Kevin Smith move

Hi there.

I noticed that you moved Kevin Smith to Kevin Smith (film maker)]]. Since the consensus on the talk page (now located at Talk:Kevin_Smith_(film_maker)#Primary_disambiguation) was, if anything, that the article should remain unmoved, I attempted to restore it. Apparently this is something only admins can do, so it was only a partial success. Would you be so kind as to move Kevin Smith (film maker) back to Kevin Smith? Thanks

Edit: Okay, on second inspection, it looks like it wasn't a two-to-one majority against a move like I thought, but 1 vs 1. (For some reason I saw violet/riga as two people) In any case, that does not equal consensus for a move. --Redirectorial (talk) 20:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Old edit of River Pang

• Hi.

Back in November 2006 you edited the article River Pang and added the words 'Its name was formed by back-extraction from the name of Pangbourne'. Could you provide an explanation for this usage of the term 'back-extraction'. There is no article on WP for back-extraction, Wiktionary doesn't know anything about it, and a Google search just comes up with references from the chemical industry. -- Chris j wood (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• See page River Pang again. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks -- Chris j wood (talk) 18:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Day of Summer!

Happy First Day of Summer!

A Beautiful Summer Field

Summer is a time for freshly grown fruits and vegetables.

Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Summer 2008! Mifter (talk)







If you live in the Southern Hemisphere and are entering the season of Winter not Summer then I wish you a Happy First Day of Winter 2008!

Give this greeting to others by adding {{subst:First Day of Summer}} on their Talk Page.

Thank you!

Thank you for the move! Gh5046 (talk) 22:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Unprotection requested

This discussion has been merged into #Disruption by IP user 199.125.109.XXX, which it is a continuation of. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Follow-up on Deletion of LinkConnector

The Entry for LinkConnector was deleted around the 10th of June. I would like to further discuss this deletion, if I may. I feel it is relevant and important to point out that many of LinkConnector's major competitors (found in the same industry, and with the same Wikipedia Categories) have Wikipedia entries that are not at all dissimilar to the entry proposed for LinkConnector. Please see the Shareasale entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareasale) or the Commission Junction entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_Junction) for examples of this.

Here are a few statements to exemplify this point:

ShareASale is an affiliate marketing network based in Chicago, IL USA. ShareASale services two customer sets in affiliate marketing: the affiliate, and the merchant.... ShareASale was founded in 2000 by Brian Littleton, and to date has over 2,000 merchant programs[1] hosted on its network platform. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareasale)

LinkConnector is an Affiliate Marketing (form of online advertising) Network headquartered in Cary, North Carolina[1]. As an Affiliate Marketing Network, LinkConnector manages the relationship between a merchant with a product or service to sell and a website owner (affiliate) with space to promote that product or service. LinkConnector currently operates in six departments: Affiliate Relations; Merchant Relations; Technology; HR, Admin, Finance; Sales; Marketing... LinkConnector has over 10,000 affiliates in its network, and hundreds of active merchants...

The statements made in the LinkConnector article proposal were not dissimilar in style or tone from those found in other major companies in the same industry. I also want to be point out that the Article is proposed with the knowledge of Wikipedia's various Guidelines (including Citation Usage, Notability guidelines, etc). This is my first contribution to Wikipedia, so I do ask for your patience - I am willing to work with you, the Editor, to provide an acceptable article for submission.

If possible, I would like to kindly ask the following:

1) Would you please email me a copy of the LinkConnector article that has been deleted? The notes from our deletion process stated that an author could ask for a copy of their article.

2) With any further feedback you could give me, I will re-construct the article to correct any shortcomings you see. I will ensure all statements are impartial or neutral. I will then re-submit our article.

3) I cannot locate the log files from the LinkConnector Talk page. I placed a {hangon} tag onto the LinkConnector article, and then went to the article's Talk page to learn more about why it was deleted and to give feedback. I cannot find these notes, but would like to keep a copy - would you be able to send this as well?

Thank you in advance for your time! JLBContributions (talk) 22:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Errors (band)

• I recently posted this article about a band which you deleted. I realise it was formatted quite badly (as I realised upon previewing the page), but was unable to connect to the internet until just now in order to revert said dodgy formatting, only to discover it was deleted. I was just wondering if it was the god-awful layout of the entry which made it suitable for deletion, or if there were other factors which, were I to attempt to re-post the page, you may be able to point out the flaws in. Thanks ina dvance for your time. Dukeofvuke (talk) 00:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
• There is also the matter of non-notability. A page Errors (band) was deleted 6 times before:
  • 20:05, 24 June 2008 Anthony Appleyard deleted "Errors (band)" ‎ (This page has been deleted 6 times already db-nn etc)
  • 17:19, 30 July 2007 Crazytales deleted "Errors (band)" ‎ (content was: '{{db-bio}}Errors are a Glasgow-based electronica indie band. They signed to Mogwai's label, Rock Action Records, and they released first EP "How clea...')
  • 16:14, 30 July 2007 Chairboy deleted "Errors (band)" ‎ (WP:CSD Articles, subsection 7 - No assertion of notability is made by this person, music group, or organization)
  • 06:16, 24 April 2007 Grandmasterka deleted "Errors (band)" ‎ (Rewrite it with the info on the talk page, and cite it, and you should be fine. WP:MUSIC applies.)
  • 06:57, 12 February 2007 Tawker deleted "Errors (band)" ‎ (copyvio)
  • 20:39, 7 October 2006 Sean Whitton deleted "Errors (band)" ‎ (Per CSD A7)
  • 22:40, 28 September 2006 (aeropagitica) deleted "Errors (band)" ‎ ({{db-band}} Non-notable band
• See WP:MUSIC. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 03:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Report Rhea208 (talk · contribs · count)

Hello, just saw that you speedy deleted Dr. Shashank Gupta. The creator of the page has been involved in more such copyright violations. See the users' talkpage. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 12:15, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

State Policy Network (SPN) Talk:State_Policy_Network Deletion

• I received a fundraising letter form SPN and was researching who they are according to wiki. The deletion log shows your name and the date of deletion, but why did you delete the discussion page? I have reviewed the WP:DEL#REASON policies. Thanks in general for your contributions to wiki.

Cheers! --Dymaxion (talk) 19:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

• If an article is deleted, it is customary to also delete its talk page. State Policy Network was deleted as a copyvio of http://www.spn.org/about/ and also as advertisement; someone recreated it afterwards. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
• See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/State Policy Network. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 03:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Soulja Boy move

• Would you be able to undo your move to Soulja Boy Tell 'em while a discussion takes place about the move. The move was certainly not uncontroversial as it had been discussed previously with the majority of voiced opinions being from now blocked sockpuppets. 71.210.187.38 (talk) 05:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
•  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

for the move of patbingsu. :) --Caspian blue (talk) 21:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)