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On this WikiProject Stub sorting subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

Proposing new stub types – procedureEdit

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude {{asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

^ . Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation"Edit

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

  • S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
  • S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope. Many templates qualifying for S2 are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/To do/To create.

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, November 2019Edit

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

NEW PROPOSALSEdit

Vermont gubernatorial election stubsEdit

A search for the phrase "Vermont gubernatorial election" within the list of articles in Category:Vermont election stubs reveals that the phrase occurs 67 times, meaning that there are 67 stub articles about Vermont gubernatorial elections. Because the common threshold of articles necessary to merit the creation of a stub category is 60, this suggests that creating a subcategory of Category:Vermont election stubs specifically for stubs about Vermont gubernatorial elections could be in order. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 21:28, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Split 'Australian rules biography, 1900s birth stubs' by yearEdit

Currently, Category:Australian rules biography, 1900s birth stubs has over 1000 articles in it. I propose that it be split by year of birth (1900-1909).

  1. 1900: 97 pages
  2. 1901: 98 pages
  3. 1902: 96 pages
  4. 1903: 99 pages
  5. 1904: 95 pages
  6. 1905: 110 pages
  7. 1906: 104 pages
  8. 1907: 103 pages
  9. 1908: 125 pages
  10. 1909: 123 pages

Given the scope of the pages to edit (all 1000+), I also propose that DannyS712 bot implement the sub-categorization if this proposal passes. In comments, please specify if you support the stub templates but not the bot edits. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:33, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Support split and bot request. Her Pegship (really?) 21:45, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Split 'Russian football defender, 1990s births stubs' by yearEdit

Currently, Category:Russian football defender, 1990s births stubs has over 1000 articles in it. I propose that it be split by year of birth (1990-1999).

  1. 1990: 105 pages
  2. 1991: 121 pages
  3. 1992: 129 pages
  4. 1993: 104 pages
  5. 1994: 109 pages
  6. 1995: 111 pages
  7. 1996: 126 pages
  8. 1997: 118 pages
  9. 1998: 112 pages
  10. 1999: 86 pages

Given the scope of the pages to edit (all 1000+), I also propose that DannyS712 bot implement the sub-categorization if this proposal passes. In comments, please specify if you support the stub templates but not the bot edits. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:44, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Support split and bot request. Her Pegship (really?) 21:45, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Proposals, October 2019Edit

Regional religion stubsEdit

I propose adding a few regional categories/templates for religion stubs. Ideally, there would be more but the list below will do for now. These would also help to organize religious bio stubs and buildings in their respective categories.

I haven't gone through every Korean and Vietnam-related article to check for content, but based on my work in Category:Buddhism stubs, there seems to be a decent variety of material covered.

I'd estimate at least half of the articles on Category:Buddhist biography stubs, which makes approx. 132, for the final stub:

Finally, I'd like to create the categories Category:Japanese religious biography stubs, Category:Korean religious biography stubs, and Vietnamese religious biography stubs, with priority given to Japan. --Invokingvajrastalk 3:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Can we refine the reli- stubs further within each belief system, rather than geographically? Her Pegship (really?) 03:49, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Can you provide an example of how you mean?--Invokingvajrastalk 3:53, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  • My main question is whether, for example, "China/Korea/Vietnam religion stubs" would encompass articles that have to do with any religion in the geographic area known as China/Korea/Vietnam, or whether they'd only include articles pertaining to belief systems indigenous to that area. Maybe I'm picking nits - as geographic regions change, would that mean re-scoping the stub categories? Please tell me if I'm not making sense. Her Pegship (really?) 18:02, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
That said, I realize that there are many more categories under Category:Religious building and structure stubs that deal with region/culture. Category:Canadian religion stubs and the like would also prove useful if only for tidying up the tree. --Invokingvajrastalk 6:21, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
In that case, support. Her Pegship (really?) 19:58, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

West Bengal geography stubsEdit

mobile-tech-stubEdit

We currently have these categories:

I suspect that it would be worth splitting the parent to Category:Mobile phone stubs, to hold the Samsung sub-cat and lots of pages beginning with HTC, Huawei, Motorola, Nokia, Xiaomi etc. However, I'm not sure how many non-phone articles would be left.

Mobile technology stubs is currently populated by {{mobile-stub}}. I would propose to keep that and use it for Category:Mobile phone stubs, if created. I therefore suggest creating a separate template for now, {{mobile-tech-stub}}, and using that on non-phone pages in Mobile technology stubs. It would also be appropriate for some such as Samsung Galaxy Camera 2 that are currently in Mobile computer stubs mainly because the parent only has one template {{mobile-stub}} whose text "mobile phone–related" does not fit. – Fayenatic London 15:08, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Would Category:Samsung phone stubs be a sub-cat of Category:Mobile phone stubs? Her Pegship (really?) 20:39, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes – Fayenatic London 23:43, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

silent-film-stubEdit

{{silent-film-stub}} already in use by many of the old films, some are narrowed down to child cats and some aren't. Do with it what you will. — Ched (talk) 19:45, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Note: Oh, and it's not listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types or Film stubs by genre — Ched (talk) 19:58, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ched: Why have you posted this here? What is it that you wish to propose? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64: - To be honest, I'm not sure Redrose. I was adding some stubs to articles, and couldn't find the {{silent-film-stub}} listed anywhere, but I noticed it was being used on a lot of the 1920 - 1927 old films. It seems to me that it should be listed somewhere. I thought at first I'd just add it to the "Film stubs by genre" cat - but to edit the page, I get:
{{WPSS-cat}}
{{Parent-only stub category
|article=[[Film]]|newstub=|category=Films by genre}}
[[Category:Film stubs| Film stubs by genre]]

and I just wasn't sure what to do. Soooo - I did this 'request' things, and figured I'd watch and learn if someone came by and did something. Even more confusing (to me) is that it breaks down ever further to things like {{1920s-silent-drama-film-stub}}. I didn't think we should just make stuff up as we went along - so I did this. Any info would be appreciated. (just leave everything the way it is?) — Ched (talk) 20:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Ahhh - I walked away and came back, then realized I hadn't checked the Category:Film stubs pages. You can delete this if you want. If you don't then I will tomorrow. Although I'm still a bit confused by: [[Category:Film stubs| Film stubs by genre]] since they seem to be 2 different pages. Ugh - topic is way over-bloated IMO. — Ched (talk) 23:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
A few points:
Cheers. Liveste (talkedits) 01:00, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

I found:

  • {{1920s-US-film-stub}} as a template - singular stub
  • Category:1920s British film stubs as a category - plural stubs
  • not sure of the "silent" part - but I'd bet there's some versions out there in some form, especially when you throw in the genre (western, drama, comedy, etc.)

sigh - my problem is these things are scattered all over the place; some as templates, some as categories. "Stubs" really could be better organized, but at this point it's probably way too expansive to do much. Apologies for my initial post, I was just a bit overwhelmed at first, but thank you both for the replies. — Ched (talk) 10:28, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

The naming convention is that categories are always spaced and end with " stubs"; whereas templates are hyphenated and end with "-stub". They usually go as pairs, and stub categories are never used directly: if an article belongs in, say, Category:Film stubs, you should use the associated template, which is {{film-stub}}; similarly, to put an article in Category:1920s British film stubs, you should use {{1920s-UK-film-stub}}.
If the intent of this thread was to bring attention to a stub template which was created out-of-process, the place to post is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:16, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposals, September 2019Edit

Society stubs - as a Top-level stub categoryEdit

UK footballer biography stubsEdit

Surprised this doesn't exist yet, since several articles already exist that would fit under such a stub category. This would be populated by said articles that are not in a stub category or already in Category:Association football biography stubs and/or Category:British sportspeople stubs. The template could be {{UK-footy-bio-stub}} or something similar. Kirbanzo (userpage - talk - contribs) 18:52, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

  • Changed to support parent category only per Grutness below, and to get this resolved. Liveste (talkedits) 01:04, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Support parent-only category for the individual national subtypes, but oppose template, which is unnecessary given that templates for each separate footballing nation already exist. Grutness...wha? 10:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Support parent cat per Grutness. Her Pegship (really?) 16:40, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Climate change stubsEdit

American blues musician stubsEdit

Ethnic group stubsEdit