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On this WikiProject Stub sorting subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

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Proposing new stub types – procedureEdit

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude {{asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

^ . Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation"Edit

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

  • S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
  • S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope. Many templates qualifying for S2 are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/To do/To create.

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, July 2018Edit

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

NEW PROPOSALSEdit

Regional Sub Categories for Missouri Registered Historic Place stubsEdit

Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs has over 1100 stubs currently grouped in several dozen upmerged county-level templates. Proposing speedy creation of Regional NHRP subcategories matching the existing regional groupings of Missouri Geography stubs. The existing subcats are:

  1. Central Missouri geography stubs
  2. St. Louis Area, Missouri geography stubs
  3. Kansas City, Missouri region geography stubs
  4. Northeast Missouri geography stubs
  5. Northwest Missouri geography stubs
  6. Ozark region, Missouri geography stubs
  7. Southeast Missouri geography stubs
  8. Southwest Missouri geography stubs

And the new proposed subcats would be as follows (composed of the identical counties as in the geography groupings):

  1. Central Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs
  2. St. Louis Area, Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs
  3. Kansas City, Missouri region Registered Historic Place stubs
  4. Northeast Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs
  5. Northwest Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs
  6. Ozark region, Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs
  7. Southeast Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs
  8. Southwest Missouri Registered Historic Place stubs

-Furicorn (talk) 10:34, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Subcats of Othoptera stubsEdit

Category:Orthoptera stubs has 1298 articles, currently. The insect order Orthoptera is divided into two suborders: Ensifera and Caelifera. I note the following search results, showing that at least 429 of the Orthoptera stubs seem to belong in Ensifera: [2], and at least 118 of them seem to belong in Caelifera: [3]. Those searches only catch articles where the applicable suborder is actually mentioned, so a great many are missed, which can be identified on closer inspection. (I can provide more evidence if needed.) I propose stub categories: Category:Ensifera stubs and Category:Caelifera stubs, which should suffice to almost completely depopulate the parent category, except for stubs dealing with Orthopterans in general. Subsequent further subdivision is likely to be desired, but I figure we start here. -GTBacchus(talk) 09:28, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Support, I did some research with PetScan, got the following results
Interesting that PetScan counts seem to be the inverse of what the search results suggest. - Furicorn (talk) 10:25, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
  • >5 days, so created. I'd appreciate if someone could double-check my work, as it's been years since I've done this sort of thing. If I made any mistakes, I'd be happy enough to find out and learn to do better. -GTBacchus(talk) 17:26, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
@GTBacchus: You forgot to add the WikiProject banners (Stub sorting & Insects in this case) to the talkpages, but other than that I didn't see any issues. (Well, beyond the fact that most relevant stubs haven't been sorted into the newly established categories yet so they're still underpopulated for now, but that's to be expected as you only just created them) AddWittyNameHere 18:02, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Flanders stubsEdit

PetScan, PSID=5054403

  • Qualifying articles: 9968
Belgian Luxembourg geography stubs‎ (67 P)
Namur geography stubs‎ (89 P)
Walloon Brabant geography stubs‎
Hainaut geography stubs‎ (155 P)
Liège geography stubs‎ (132 P)
  • Likewise, there are several Flanders geography stub categories:
Antwerp geography stubs‎ (96 P)
East Flanders geography stubs‎ (109 P)
Flemish Brabant geography stubs‎ (95 P)
Belgian Limburg geography stubs‎ (44 P)
West Flanders geography stubs‎ (146 P)

Must Overcome Tedium to Handle Stub-sort (M.O.T.H.S)Edit

Same staggered approach. Same precedent for genus-level categories. As always, article-numbers given for existing categories do not include numbers in their extant subcategories; unless explicitly stated otherwise, estimated article numbers given for proposed categories do not include numbers for articles in simultaneously-proposed subcategories. Unless otherwise stated, most if not all articles for the proposed subcategories can be found in the lowest-level extant stub category I'm proposing it as subcategory of.

In part who-even-knows-anymore-plus-one of this saga, I'd like to propose the following:
For existing category Category:Drepanidae stubs (just shy of 800 stubs, no subcategories), the following subcategories and templates:

AddWittyNameHere (talk) 03:19, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Five days past, creating. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:10, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Drepaninae done. Thyatirinae in progress. About 30% done, taking a bit of a break before wrapping up. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
And done, if a little later than expected. Adding to stub types list now. AddWittyNameHere 00:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

The moths go ever on and onEdit

Same staggered approach. Same precedent for genus-level categories. As always, article-numbers given for existing categories do not include numbers in their extant subcategories; unless explicitly stated otherwise, estimated article numbers given for proposed categories do not include numbers for articles in simultaneously-proposed subcategories. Unless otherwise stated, most if not all articles for the proposed subcategories can be found in the lowest-level extant stub category I'm proposing it as subcategory of.

In part who-even-knows-anymore of this saga, I'd like to propose the following:

For existing subcategory Category:Blastobasidae stubs (494 stubs, no extant subcategories), the following subcategories and templates:
Due to lack of taxonomic certainty, no subfamily-level stubcategories are proposed.

For existing subcategory Category:Cosmopterigidae stubs (1540 stubs, 1 extant subcategory), the following:

  • Category:Antequerinae stubs/{{Antequerinae-stub}}. 67 articles. (Antequerinae and all genus- and species-level stubs of genera Alloclita, Antequera,Chalcocolona, Cnemidolophus,Cosmiosophista, Euclemensia, Gibeauxiella, Lamachaera, Meleonoma, (see below) Pancalia and Phosphaticola.)

:*Category:Limnaecia stubs/{{Limnaecia-stub}}. Genus Limnaecia and species stubs. 130 stubs. EDIT:Striking this, see below

AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Trusting (as usual) that you know what you're about taxonomy-wise, support. Pegship (talk) 16:19, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
  • One support, no opposition, five days and about two hours since proposing...time to create. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 02:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Blastobasidae subcategories done. Onto Cosmopterigidae it is. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 03:44, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
EDIT: While diffusing I've made some changes to the proposed above: I see I accidentally gave Macrobathra an indent it shouldn't have had: meant to propose it separately//as subcategory of Cosmopterigidae, not of Antequerinae.
Striking Meleonoma as genus included in Antequerinae. Too much taxonomic contradiction both within and outside en.wiki. As a result, the category would be slightly undersized (50 stubs or thereabout) if separating Limnaecia into a subcategory, so gonna sort those straight into Antequerinae stubs instead. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 04:32, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
&  Done (but see above), now off to update the stub types list and then it's very much time for a break--my wrists are hurting. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 05:54, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Proposals, June 2018Edit

The never-ending moth storyEdit

Ever more mothsEdit

Moths yet again: Proposal for a (upmerged?) template & a template+category (EDIT: &2 more temp+cats)Edit

Speedy creation (S1) of category for upmerged template Scythrididae-stub transcluded on 450+ pagesEdit

Iranian radio station stubsEdit

American football wide receiver, 1990s birth stubsEdit

Proposals, May 2018Edit

PerfumersEdit

Australian people stubsEdit

Propose stub subcategory "Pyrausta (moth)" within stub category PyraustinaeEdit

Stub template/category page for Odostomia, under PyramidellidaeEdit

Proposals, April 2018Edit

Start dividing {{Mountain-stub}} and its continent equivalents into countries as wellEdit

This is not exactly the request for a single stub, but rather multiple stubs. The reason for this is with only diving mountain stubs into continents, there are many more intricate stubs that are sub-cats of the geo-stub: countries, states, and even cities. If we could divide the mountains stubs into at least countries to start off with, that would allow for the "system" of mountain stubs to have many more pages, and therefore be a lot more productive (remember, my original request was at state level). I am by no means saying we should divide it into all of the continents in the world right away - I would probably start with some of the South America country categories that have a lot of pages in them.--SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 13:50, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

  • The following are not countries, but they are rather subdivisions of Antarctica. I decided the list them here because they had a crazy yield when I used PetScan:
    • How does that sound, Pegship (I'm pinging you because you seem to be one of the few users who are very active in stub sorting)? It's been 5 days, so if you approve of this I'll go ahead and create these.--SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 17:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
      • Sounds good to me. If no one else has a comment, I'd say proceed in good faith. Pegship (talk) 17:12, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Support, and I have a supplementary idea. @Pegship and SkyGazer 512: Why not subdivide by mountain ranges? — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  21:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

French actress stubEdit

Washington (state) geography stub sub-catsEdit

Oberea stubsEdit

Proposals, March 2018Edit

North Dakota geography stubsEdit

New York mountain and hill stubsEdit

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa geography stubs sub-cats part deuxEdit

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa geography stubs sub-catsEdit

Proposals, February 2018Edit

Scottish nobilityEdit

Category:Georgia (U.S. state) people stubs / GeorgiaUS-bio-stubEdit

Category:Göttingen district geography stubs‎Edit

New Brunswick school stubsEdit

Economic terminology stubsEdit

Spilomelinae sub-catEdit

Proposals, January 2018Edit

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

Category:Andalusia stubs / {{Andalusia-stub}}Edit