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On this WikiProject Stub sorting subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

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Proposing new stub types – procedureEdit

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude {{asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

^ . Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation"Edit

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

  • S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
  • S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope. Many templates qualifying for S2 are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/To do/To create.

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, September 2019Edit

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

NEW PROPOSALSEdit

American blues musician stubsEdit

There are 650+ articles in Category:American musician stubs, and this is an obvious non-inclusion, with potential splits down the line if necessary. Gnomingstuff (talk) 18:17, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

  • Support creation of category and template. PetScan shows over 100 potential articles, though only 28 of them are in Category:American musician stubs itself. BTW, what did you mean by "non-inclusion" and what would be split down the line? Liveste (talkedits) 12:11, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Just that we currently don't have that category, where it seems like an obvious one to add (and one of the more actually useful stub categories). Potential splits down the line would be similar to what we have for jazz musicians -- blues singers, guitarists, etc. -- if the category ends up getting large. Gnomingstuff (talk) 13:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Ethnic group stubsEdit

Not sure if this qualifies as speedy (S2). Category:Ethnic group stubs is split by continent for Africa, Asia, Europe and South America, but not currently for North America and Oceania. So I propose creation of the following:

These new categories could also be populated by articles currently in Ethnic group stubs. Cheers. Liveste (talkedits) 01:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Proposals, August 2019Edit

A clarification?Edit

Hi folks - not a proposal so much as a clarification needed. I see we have two templates: {{NativeAmerican-politician-stub}} and {{NorthAm-native-bio-stub}}... surely one of these should be moved so that the naming is consistent. If so, which way? Grutness...wha? 14:03, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

  • I'd retain "NorthAm-native-foo-stub" and move the other one to {{NorthAm-native-politician-stub}}. While "Native American" sounds better to me, it can also describe indigenous peoples all over North, Central and South America. The aforementioned stub templates both link to Category:Indigenous peoples of North America biography stubs: anything to do with North American indigenous peoples should probably specify "North America" in its title. There's also {{NorthAm-native-stub}} and {{NorthAm-native-book-stub}} – but confusingly, also {{IndigenousAustralia-stub}} (although the category name is consistent with the NorthAm one). Cheers. Liveste (talkedits) 13:31, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Makes sense - perhaps redirects at the other names? I too prefer the term Native American, but you're right that it could have a mor ambiguous scope. Grutness...wha? 14:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
      • Sounds good. Template redirects are harmless, and they save having to change the stub tags on any of the articles. Thankfully they're upmerged templates, so there's no need to change the categories as well ... at least not yet. Liveste (talkedits) 02:07, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Eurovision song stubsEdit

There are 500+ articles in Category:Eurovision Song Contest stubs (granted, I've added a lot in the past few days, but there are probably a lot more not catted here I'd guess). This would likely make up the bulk of the category but it's the kind of thing where the logical next step is upmerges/subcats by country easily. Gnomingstuff (talk) 15:34, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Buddhism stubsEdit

There are 500+ articles at Category:Buddhism stubs. I haven't checked subcategories, but it is evident that many, if not most, of the articles there would also fall under the stubs that I would like to propose. This sort of split would make categorization much easier and make the project less daunting for other users.

--Invokingvajras (talk) 22:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

American Anglican bishop stubsEdit

Māori stubsEdit

There are currently 405 articles at Category:Māori stubs, and I propose the following split:

  • {{Māori-bio-stub}}: manual count 164 articles (excluding mythological people). Not sure how to further split these yet.
  • {{Maori-myth-stub}}: presently upmerged, but PetScan shows 84 articles including those without the stub template. Will also respell as "Māori-myth-stub".

Cheers. Liveste (talkedits) 15:35, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment: Well, these are all done, and with a lot more articles in each than I initially expected. Question: I was wondering about the Māori-bio-stubs category, which is Category:Māori people stubs. It's supposed to contain articles on individual Māori people, but others might mistake it as a category for everything about the Māori people – including their culture, history, language, subgroups, etc. – which would actually belong in the parent Category:Māori stubs. Perhaps it might be better to move the bio-stubs category to Category:Māori biography stubs instead? It'd be less confusing and still consistent with a lot of the subcats in Category:New Zealand people stubs. Thoughts? Liveste (talkedits) 14:45, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
  • I've commented on that at the speedy proposal... but if you're trying to figure out how best to split Maori bios when it becomes necessary, there are several large iwi (tribes) and iwi groups such as Ngapuhi, Tainui, Muriwhenua, and Ngai Tahu - it might be worth looking at splitting along those lines. Only problem is that many Maori identify with more than one iwi. Grutness...wha? 14:00, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Another possible split would be by century. I realise that there would be an overlap, but - because of the colonisation of NZ in the 19th century, there's a profound change in Maori history at that point. Perhaps Pre-1800/19th Century/20th Century/21st Century?Grutness...wha? 14:29, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I've listed Category:Māori people stubs at CfD, for renaming to Category:Māori biography stubs. Please feel free to add your thoughts at the CfD entry here. Cheers again. Liveste (talkedits) 13:18, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Proposals, July 2019Edit

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

Paralympic medalist stub templatesEdit

Cameroon geography stub templatesEdit

Proposals, June 2019Edit

Ghanaian university stubsEdit

Korean song stubsEdit

Jackson County, Oregon geography stubsEdit

Spanish film biography stubsEdit

Proposals, May 2019Edit

Song stubsEdit

Norwegian film biography stubsEdit

College football season stubs by decadeEdit

NRHP stubs for U.S. Virgin Islands, and for U.S. possessions in the PacificEdit

Australian rules biography, 1910s birth stubsEdit

Music award stubs/Science award stubsEdit

Splitting Cycling race stubsEdit