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On this WikiProject Stub sorting subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

Proposing new stub types – procedure edit

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude {{asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

^ Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation" edit

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

  • S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
  • S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope. Many templates qualifying for S2 are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/To do/To create.

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, February 2024 edit

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.


Coleophora stubs edit

I'm unsure if this would actually work as a stub template, since it's a strange case - Category:Coleophoridae stubs is one of the biggest stub categories, but 1374/1409 of the articles are Coleophora, with only 35 non-Coleophora in the category. I'm sure if I knew more about moths I could propose more specific stub categories, but as it is I wonder if having a subcategory for Coleophora would at least help a tiny bit. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 22:30, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Observations While I've undertaken (and completed!) more than a couple of category projects of similar scope as this would be, I'm not sure how useful it would really be--UNLESS! ...
If we set up the new stub subcategory, the only way I know then to populate it is to go to each of the more than 1300 articles and edit each one. It would be the same copy/paste-over edit for each, but it's still one at a time. And we would have a parent category of 35 or so, and a subcategory of almost 1400. Furthermore, that subcategory would be alphabetized all under one letter heading. It would show the automatic ToC template (to two letters, since the category is so big), and it would all be under "C-O".
... UNLESS there is a way to set up in a stub something akin to the sortkeys we use in regular categories. This is extremely common in larger categories for single genera; we add a Sortkey to alphabetize each article under the SPECIFIC name (the second part of the two-part name of each species). Redoing genus category pages to accomplish that has been the majority of my work over my years as a Wikignome. In fact, that is the way the non-stub Category:Coleophora is organized. But I don't know if it's possible with a stub page; I'm sure I've NEVER seen a stub page done that way.
The only other possibility I see for avoiding one very large single-letter category is if it turns out that species of this genus are more or less evenly distributed among several subgenera; I don't see any indication that that is the case here. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tetrapodomorph stubs edit

Cynodont stubs edit

Sawfly stubs edit

Category:Indian passenger trains stubs edit

To categorise passenger train stub articles into a separate sub cat in Category:India rail transport stubs.

Existing sub cat Category:Indian express train stubs can be placed under this along with other non express train service articles.— Preceding unsigned comment added by nkb_21 (talkcontribs)

How many articles would qualify for such a sub-cat? Her Pegship (?) 23:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
about 78 articles qualify and the Category:Indian express train stubs upmerges to it. Nkb 21 (talk) 04:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nitidulidae stub upmerging--propose own category edit

Category: National Trust stubs edit

I'm proposing Category:National Trust stubs to enable editors to navigate directly to articles relating to the National Trust that could benefit from improvement, as part of a paid editing pilot for the organisation. There's 94 results using Petscan (ID). You can read more about the pilot here.

Note:This is my first stub category nomination, so please bear with me as I work out what to do if the nomination is successful. Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 15:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome to the stub house! I have several questions about this proposed stub type:
  • Does "National Trust" here mean the National Trust that involves England, Wales, and Northern Ireland (but not Scotland, which has its own)?
  • If this stub type is to be applied to properties and objects, the template and category should reflect that (i.e. "NationalTrust-England-stub, National Trust properties in England stubs").
  • Would this project benefit more from a stub type as proposed, or from a separate non-stub category such as those used by WikiProjects?
Not making any judgments, just curious. Her Pegship (?) 20:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks very much for the questions @Pegship this definitely helps me think what would be useful.
1) Yes, it's the England, Wales, Northern Ireland one
2) I'm very happy to take more experienced advice on this - I suggested "National Trust stubs" as a catch-all, but am happy to be guided by editors with more experience in this area
3) Currently there isn't a WikiProject National Trust. My thinking with the general stub type as proposed was that it would be a one-stop-shop that we could point new editors to as place where all the NT content that might benefit from expansion could be held. Again, happy to take advice on this, I am new to the work in this project
Thanks again Lajmmoore (talk) 09:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see that the items on the PetScan list are mainly locations or structures or art. Maybe a more general {{NationalTrust-property-stub}}, without the geography involved? Also, I assume that this template would be applied in addition to existing stub templates rather than replacing them; the articles already have templates like {{castle-stub}}, {{painting-stub}}, etc., which they should still keep. Her Pegship (?) 21:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, @Pegship you've got the words to express what I was thinking, but didn't quite know how to say. Thank you! Lajmmoore (talk) 14:11, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proposals, January 2024 edit

British Columbia Coast geography stubs edit

Re-creation of Norway geography stub categories edit

Stub category for Leiodidae stub, currently upmerging edit