Talk:X (Ed Sheeran album)

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Background and Recording Section

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Most of this section, so far, has been written by me, and for every quote in there I have added a citation, however some citations link to multiple quotes. I do not think it necessary to link to the same citation twice within two sentences, so can other editors please refrain from adding a "Citation needed" tag without checking the citations that are already there. Thank you 87.115.124.173 (talk) 06:31, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

If multiple sentences are supported by the same reference, just move the citation to the end of the last sentence that is supported by that reference. Littlecarmen (talk) 10:56, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
I have done now, thank you for editing the citations so they have titles, I am not totally clued up on how the naming of them works! 87.115.124.173 (talk) 16:47, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
This section has now been split into two. If you disagree with the naming of the second part as "Music and lyrics" then by all means change it, but I feel it fits, as that is what is analyzed. Also, upon the release of the album, Ed will almost certainly upload all of the lyrics, leading to media coverage of them, which will fit perfectly into this section as it is currently titled. On a side note, I am the same user as the unnamed IP address above, just now I have logged in Kielaurie (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Tracklisting/Sample Credit/Writers

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As far as I know, there is no proof of the writing or production credits for any of the songs so far. While it is known that Ed wrote "Sing" with Pharrell, and that Pharrell produced the track, the rest of the songs have not been referenced. Having heard the track "Don't", it appears that whoever stated the track uses a sample is correct, but until it is confirmed in an interview, or at the very latest proved in the album liner notes, we simply cannot state that the sample is used. In light of this, if there is no opposition, I shall delete all the unprovable information until a date where it can be proved. However, I shall give ample opportunity for people to make an argument for keeping the information while I search for my own sources to improve the article. 87.115.124.173 (talk) 14:38, 11 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

I agree that the credits should be removed if they can't be referenced. A citation saying that Pharrell and Ed Sheeran wrote "Sing" together and that Pharrell produced the song should also be added to that section. Littlecarmen (talk) 14:46, 11 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
I cannot currently find something specifically saying that the song was written with Pharrell, but plenty of the other references have proved that he produced it, so I will add one of those and add it to the section. I have found proof for collaborations with Benny Blanco and Johnny McDaid, but no specific songs yet, so it looks like those credits will disappear for now 87.115.124.173 (talk) 16:49, 11 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
The Lucy Pearl sample situation appears to be just rumours, and I have provided proof for the Blanco and McDaid collaborations on specific songs now. Unless I manage to find definite evidence of anything else in the next half hour, the remaining un provable material will be gone. 87.115.124.173 (talk) 18:18, 11 May 2014 (UTC)Reply


Saying this for a final time, all unsourced material about the tracklisting will be deleted. I have been searching, mostly fruitlessly, for the last hour or so, and can find no PROOF for the writers of the songs "Bloodstream", "Tenerife Sea" or "Afire Love"; the closest is an MTV article that says he wrote "Tenerife Sea" with "a good friend while in Nashville", which is PROBABLY Johnny McDaid but cannot be proven. Unprovable material is not suitable for Wikipedia (see it's guidelines) so I have no choice but to delete it. If you can find a reference for the material, then by all means insert it. If this message has come across as rude, then I can only apologise. Kielaurie (talk) 11:52, 25 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

All of Our Stars on Physical Deluxe Edition of X

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https://twitter.com/LittleBirdsUSA/status/474822381257498624 https://twitter.com/edsheeran/status/474823621555519488

I don't know how to add it to the table. 108.227.116.150 (talk) 18:31, 6 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Okay, I DO know how to put it into the table, but I cannot find any record of this on retailers websites. I've pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition of X, but it doesn't include All Of The Stars, and checking on Amazon and other retailers to see if the tracklisting has been updated has proved fruitless. Until then I'm afraid I won't be altering the table. Sorry! But good find, I completely missed that tweet! Kielaurie (talk) 13:55, 8 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Well when I go to his US webstore(or whatever one your country is), go to CD's, and then click the deluxe one, it pops up in the tracklist.--108.227.116.150 (talk) 00:20, 14 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
I have added it, under a new banner to specify that it is only available from his webstore, as I am still unable to find a version with the track on anywhere else. If it proves to be on the standard deluxe edition then I will merge the two tracklists Kielaurie (talk) 16:02, 15 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Article title

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Is the article named correctly? A number of the sources refer to 'X' or 'x' instead. Eldumpo (talk) 06:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Shouldn't it be spelled as '×' (multiplication symbol) instead of 'x' (the alphabet letter)? 89.164.218.199 (talk) 02:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 57 19:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)Reply


X (Ed Sheeran album)Multiply (Ed Sheeran album) – This article's name should be moved for title clarity. The album's name is pronounced as "Multiply", not as "Ex"; per MOS:TM, as an encyclopedia, we cannot expect the reader to have to read the article first to understand what the title means ... or how it is pronounced. Steel1943 (talk) 02:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

"Ed Sheeran" Multiply gets "About 461,000 results"
"Ed Sheeran" X gets "About 17,900,000 results"
The meaning of the title can be explained in the article. My guess is that the presentation of X was chosen because the multiply sign × is not searchable on, at least, Google. Ed Sheeran's people present the album as X and so should we. Gregkaye 13:28, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
Suggest move to identical title but without the:
{{DISPLAYTITLE:Desired Title}} italic formatting
The current use of italics makes the title produce: x (Ed Sheeran album).
The x in all the Sheeran related documentation that I have seen is free of italicisation presumably so as to better represent the multiply sign.
Also, if the admin concerned is in the mood for making moves, a move from Talk:X (Ed Sheeran album) to Talk:x (Ed Sheeran album) would keep things consistent.
Gregkaye 14:13, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
I agree, and removing the italic formating doesn't actually require moving the article. I have already removed it from the title and lead section; someone please change that further in the text. — Mayast (talk) 14:56, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Why wasn't this moved to "Multiply"?

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Seems inconsistent to have his first album listed as "plus" but this one listed as "x". Especially since "x" isn't the title, but the stylized multiplication sign. It only makes his album more confusing to refer to it as "x". This is Wikipedia, we always do things by the book. Calling his album "x" feels like we're going for what people think it's called, not what it actually is called. I missed the discussion, but it looks like there's more for than againsts, and if I was here for it I'd strongly be in the "for" category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.231.232 (talk) 04:30, 16 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

More to the point, this article is essentially renaming the album "x". But that's not the name of the album. It is ridiculous to let this website have the power to rename an album. We didn't rename "The White Album" from The Beatles. It's also bizarre that his first album we call "Plus" but his second album we call "x". I am not for Wikipedia wielding this much power. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.231.232 (talk) 00:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Italic or non-italic X

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The relatively reliable sources on which Wikipedia relies present a capitalised X. They also present it in a non-italic format but this is similar to most presentations of media titles elsewhere. The Multiplication sign "×" is never italicised as per example text shown. The Wikipedia convention is to italicise titles but I'd propose that this is arguably an exception to the rule. Gregkaye 09:49, 6 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

See also: + (Ed Sheeran album) and content of "Article name" and "Requested move" above. Gregkaye 09:51, 6 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Gregkaye: I have reverted the change to a non-italic "x", as – despite the hidden note you left – it was done without consensus (one editor in agreement does not consensus make) and it is a major departure from the standard formatting of album titles per the MoS. Although the title is pronounced "Multiply," it is represented in nearly every source as the letter "x", not the multiplication sign. This needs to be discussed more thoroughly before this formatting is restored. Thanks. Chase (talk | contributions) 01:05, 1 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

x or ×

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Why don't we use the "×" instead "x" for the album title? Ed Sheeran call it "multiply" not "X". — Preceding unsigned comment added by FilBenLeafBoy (talkcontribs) 16:18, 15 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 27 February 2016

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The result of the move request was: not moved. – wbm1058 (talk) 02:50, 6 March 2016 (UTC)Reply



X (Ed Sheeran album)× (album) – The article for the first album is a plus sign, so to end the dispute between "x" and "X", why don't we just rename it to the multiplication sign? 2601:8C:4001:DCF4:4DB7:8078:579D:9A72 (talk) 20:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)Reply


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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus appears to be that the common name of the article is the letter X, regardless of how it's actually pronounced. (non-admin closure) JudgeRM (talk to me) 15:34, 14 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


X (Ed Sheeran album)× (album) – For consistency with ÷ (album). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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Title

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Is the album's title registered as "X" or "x"? Spotify, Apple's iTunes Store and Google Play list the album as x, whereas some Amazon listings and others list the album as "X" (although this could have been influenced by our article's title). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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×

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I know this has been discussed before, but why can't the page be called × (album) with a redirect for X or x? CB19 (talk) 01:23, 9 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

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