Talk:Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe

GA nomination

Doug Coldwell,

I was looking at this article as a possibility to review, but there are issues with the sources. I could do a "quick fail" - but it seems to make more sense to just add some comments here.

• The first source is a personal site - so it would not pass the reliable sources criteria. See this. The third source is a family history site. Same problem.
• I don't know at all who the second source is from "pp. 562–563" - so that's a verifiability issue.
• It would be nice to have links to any of the items in the Important works and captions for Other examples. You can use the {{ill}} template where there are not yet English articles, but there are Dutch articles. See [1] (where I went looking for sources - none found)
• I question He is considered an important and influential representative of Gothic Revival architecture in the Netherlands during the 19th century. because of the lack of reliable sources.

I think you will find that some information will not be able to be included. The place to search includes newspapers, magazines, books first. It looks like he generally used the name Alfred, but I tried some searches just on: Tepe architect

Best of luck on this! Let me know if you have any questions.–CaroleHenson (talk) 03:12, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Doug Coldwell, Wow! You've done some great work on this article. If you're ok with it, I could add links to Important works items where there are articles in Dutch.–CaroleHenson (talk) 02:30, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

CaroleHenson - Yes, anything you want to do is fine by me. You are an outstanding editor and any edits you do are quality contributions. You have already make some excellent improvements to this article - I appreciate it! My wife is from Groningen.--10:06, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Doug Coldwell, I just made some minor tweaks. I wondered if you or a family member were from the Netherlands. Very cool.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:06, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Vami IV (talk · contribs) 10:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Opening statement

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Prose

• Lead requires expansion.

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• The broadness of the article leads something to be desired, but I understand as a content writer myself that sometimes we just don't have material to work with.

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• The family had moved to Amsterdam from Germany prior to his birth. Redundant. Does the source say why they moved to Amsterdam?

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Issue still present. The sentence is redundant. You could replace "parents" in the first sentence with "immigrants" and only lose some article size. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 16:07, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

 Fixed --Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• Tepe grew up and got his primary education [...] Replace "got" with "received".

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• After graduating from high school in 1858 [...] Wouldn't this be a gymnasium?

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the source, the gymnasium in question was the Sint-Willibrordus-gymnasium, in Katwijk. It's worth mentioning in the prose, I think.

 Done - with the assistance of my Dutch wife from Groningen. @Vami IV: I'm still having trouble with English.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• Additionally he also studied medieval architecture [...] So he was studying architecture in addition to architecture?

 Done - from 1861 to 1864 he studied construction at the college of Bauakademie --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

• Then from 1861 to 1864 he studied architecture at the college of Bauakademie in Berlin. Additionally he also studied medieval architecture, especially that of the French architect expert Eugène Viollet-le-Duc. He learned from Viollet-le-Duc the Gothic Revival architecture style, especially that pertaining to restorations of medieval buildings and churches. There is a lot of repeating of information here. Tepe studies architecture in addition to studying architecture and learns about and takes an interest in Eugène Viollet-le-Duc's work from reading Viollet-le-Duc's (literary) work.

 Done--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)  Removed - He learned from Viollet-le-Duc the Gothic Revival architecture style, especially that pertaining to restorations of medieval buildings and churches.

• Tepe afterwards went to Münster in western Germany to complete his mathematical studies. There has been no prior mention of any mathematical studies.

 Done--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:28, 25 May 2020 (UTC)  Fixed Reworded sentence to ... for mathematical studies.

• Tepe's first career job was when he joined German Gothic Revival architect Vincenz Statz in Cologne. Could you word this more clinically?

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)  Fixed Reworded sentence to ...first serious work in his career...

• This gave him on-the-job training for developing talents in church architecture. Redundant.

 Done  Removed--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• While there he came across Gerard van Heukelum, [...] Replace "he came across" with "met".

 Done  Fixed --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• [...] St. Catherine's Cathedral in Utrecht in the Netherlands. Delete "in the Netherlands", and link St Catherine's Cathedral, Utrecht.

 Done  Fixed --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:03, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• [...] Heukelum who became an architect and had founded [...] Who had become an architect. Delete the "had" before "founded".

 Done  Fixed --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:03, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• He received some assignments on village schools and rectories. Heukelum or Tepe?

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:03, 25 May 2020 (UTC)  Fixed ...Tepe received from Heukelum some assignments...

• In these churches very little natural stone was used and brick was the material he chose developing Dutch brick gothic architecture. Rewrite.

 Done  Fixed Rewrote to say, Brick was the material he chose instead of natural stone...

• "Nature of work" would be better named "Architectural style".

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:01, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• The first paragraph of "Nature of work" also needs a rewrite. [...] architectural-style [...] should not have a hyphen, the "phases" are overly wordy (Compare He varied his church designs between 1871 and 1876. His churches are rarely decorated in this time period of his first phase. to His church designs between 1871 and 1876 were rarely decorated.), and it is written in present-tense when it should be past-tense.

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:14, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• His direction of the Dutch Gothic Revival architecture was eventually taken over by others, J.W. Boerbooms and Wolter te Riele were some. Also problematic. by others, J.W. Boerbooms and Wolter te Riele were some. is clunky, and "influence" or "leadership" may be a better word here than "direction".

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• There was no children from this marriage. Were no children.

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• Tepe moved to Germany in 1905 [...] With Mrs. Kracht?

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• There he designed and built a slightly different style, which regularly made use of stone. For example, the church he built in Bawinkel was largely of sandstone. Redundant and misplaced in "Later life and death".

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• "External links" is misnamed. It should be "See also", and moved to before "References".

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

GA progress

Article passes CopyVio scanning. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

There are no disambiguation links present. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Images are relevant to the article and free/tagged. &nadsh;♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

There are no issues with any of the external links present on the article. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

References are reliable. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

@Vami IV: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look at it. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:23, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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