Talk:Vichyssoise

Bruce Wayne

Because it is explained to Bruce Wayne by his butler Alfred in the motion picture "Batman Returns" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.80.91.2 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Can Europe have a say...

That there can be any question as to the French origins of this soup is extraordinary - especially given the fact it is to be included in the article on France and one, assumes, the French - as is the assertion that it is a simply a cold potato soup... and whether the cold or hot version is more common in Toronto... all shows a rather xenophobic attitude, if I may say so, rather typical of Wikipedia,

Moving on. There's also an asinine phrase 'some like it hot'. Which only shows the cretinous character of the authors. 'Hot' Vichyssoise is known as Potage Parmentier, as any chef knows. (That sentence and its embarrassing reference should be removed.) And in case there's someone who didn't catch on, Antoine-Augustin Parmentier is mostly French.

Article Expansion

In it's current state the article is pretty nonsensical; I'm working on fixing it up (Vichyssoise really is a cold potato soup, at least) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soltak (talk • contribs) 00:45, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

I think there's two different varieties. The pureed leek one seems more common here in Toronto though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.192.2.176 (talk • contribs) 04:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Origin

The claims of Louis Diat may or may not be true, but enough food writers and journalists believed him that nobody seems to have bothered to discredit his claim to having named a cold potato and leek soup "Vichyssoise" before anyone else. Also, the questions here below regarding the history of the Ritz seem unfounded, if we are to believe the 1911 advertisement for the hotel on this site:https://web.archive.org/web/20130401211256/http://www.famoushotels.org/article/1279 . That being said, it is unquestionable that he neither invented potato leek soup, it's method of preparation, nor even the use of milk or cream in the recipe. Substantial documentary evidence exists to prove that modern vichyssoise is made almost identically to the popular "Potage Parmentier" from the 18th-19th centuries and that Diat's true invention can be no more than the temperature at which the soup is served, and the name "Vichyssiose," assuming he did indeed create those two elements. As with any basic regional recipe, the recipes for Potage Parmentier contain variations regarding the inclusion or exclusion of a specific allium species, dairy product, Bouillon (broth), order of cooking, and proportions of ingredients, but it is beyond doubt that several traditional versions included all the ingredients and methods for a Vichyssiose.

The Louis Diat 1917 invention inspired by earlier French hot version seems likely as researched by Seanibus here: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:5HvUOSTCYhYJ:www.moviechatter.com/topic_show.pl%3Ftid%3D5621%26pg%3D3+Algonquin+Vichyssoise+-curry&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10

But the date of 1917 and the location of Ritz Carleton NYC doesn't jibe with their corporate history . http://www.ritzcarlton.com/corporate/about_us/history.asp Any explanations? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ghosts&empties (talk • contribs) 21:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Consider this: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,935219,00.html?promoid=googlep

The original RC did not even open until 1927, and even then it was not in NYC (its in Boston) so can someone correct this? I will see if i can come up with anything.--Bud 06:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I added the pronounciation; however I am not sure it is in the correct format. I am no expert on writing pronounciation guides as in a dictionary, but what I put is the best I could do. If anyone is more skilled in this, feel free to change it - the basis for my pronounciation was the movie V for Vendetta, as I said on the main page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.153.26.190 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

That pronunciation was actually incorrect - an example of hyperforeignism. I've added an IPA transcription with a note about the common mispronunciation. --Safalra 18:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Botulism

It would be remiss to keep deleting info on what was the largest food recall in history, at its time. Its a comprehensive article, not a hagiography. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 20:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

• You are free to start an article on the food recall. It is off-topic for this article on the foodstuff Vichyssoise. See WP:REL for the related policy. -- DanielPenfield 20:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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Trivia: bushy schwa

There is mention in the trivia section that this soup is called bushy schwa in Dublin. I did a google search and found nothing to back this up. In fact, I found evidence that in Dublin it is called Vichyssoise. Unless a reference can be found for this "fact", this information should be removed. For this reason, I have deleted it from the article. Clerks. (talk) 16:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

HOT BUSHY SCHWA! The pride of Dublin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.123.197 (talk) 22:20, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Pop Culture

Should there be a pop culture section included? Vichyssoise is used in a line from the Mask:

The Mask: [to Tina] Kiss me, my dear, and I will reveal my croissant. I will spread your pate. I will dip my ladle in your vichyssoise. 
[Tina kicks him and scampers away] 
The Mask: [squeaky voice] She is so coy. 
[deep voice] 
The Mask: I love it! 

Link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110475/quotes Cabbruzz (talk) 13:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

It is also used in V for Vendetta: http://www.whysanity.net/monos/vendetta.html Elec08215 (talk) 07:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Etymology is missing

Vichyssoise means someone who comes from Vichy. I have no idea how to call someone who inhabit Vichy, in English — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 (talk) 22:43, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

15 Dec 22

Anyone wondering why this article's pageviews spiked yesterday: it was a key answer to a clue in the NYT crossword puzzle. Valereee (talk) 16:02, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

What article documents altering food-names for political reasons?

"Freedom Fries" (the name given in 2003 to French Fries after France questioned the Iraq War) is recent enough to be remembered, BUT, the episode is not listed in the article on French Fries. At least it's listed in the "See Also" hotlinks. But wasn't there also an alternative English name for "Kaiser Roll" during one of the World Wars (and I don't even know which one)? Also when the French government at Vichy was a Nazi puppet-state, didn't it cause an English alternative name for the cold potato soup otherwise known as "Vichyssoise"? If the POLITICAL names aren't given in the articles, then one can read about these political renamings ONLY if one ALREADY KNOWS the political name, and I don't. (And we could well ask what the "English Muffin" has been called in countries that might not like England so much. "French Toast" too, if there should be some resentment of France as a colonial power? It'd be nice to find all of them in one place.)2600:1700:6759:B000:BC01:5B8F:D549:A2DF (talk) 04:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson