Talk:UK Singles Chart

Requested move 15 March 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Opposers state that "UK" helps differentiate from other singles charts (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 11:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

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UK Singles Chart → Official Singles Chart – Starting this discussion on behalf of user:Erpert who proposed this at RFD. Rationale:"This redirect should be the other way around; the lead section even states that Official Singles Chart is the current name of the chart." I am neutral on this issue. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 08:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - The proposed title does not adequately explain what the article's subject is and is highly unlikely to be the WP:COMMONNAME (especially with regards to the recognisability criteria), particularly outside of the UK where there are doubtless countless other "official" singles charts. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 12:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
  • But the proposed title is the actual current title of the chart. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 14:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

  While WP:OFFICIAL names should always be considered as potential titles for Wikipedia articles, other names are often used if they better fit the WP:CRITERIA Wikipedia has for naming articles. In this case "Official Singles Chart" fails to be sufficiently recognisable, natural, or precise for our purposes when compared to the current title, which is a far clearer WP:NDESC of the article's contents and (especially from a global perspective) almost certainly the WP:COMMONNAME. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 14:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

  I'm not sure WP:COMMONNAME outranks WP:CRITERIA when it comes to the copyrighted name of a subject. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 00:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

  The current title of "UK" scores better than the proposed "Official" in at least four of the five of the criteria listed (consistency is debatable). Also, names aren't copyrighted, they're trademarked. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 17:01, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

  But the official website lists the name as Official Singles Chart. A similar discussion took place here. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 01:18, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

  Yeah, but that move you linked to didn't go to an ambiguous title. If you tell an American about the Official Singles Chart is, they will probably think of Billboard. Ask an Australian, they'll think of ARIA. That's the problem with official - the word is so generic that, outside of the UK, it could mean anything (hell, a lot of people in the UK might ask which country's official charts you mean). It may be the official name, but it's an ambiguous official name. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

  I would argue that it's highly questionable to have "Official Singles Chart" redirect to the page about the UK Singles Chart, as Wikipedia is a global encyclopaedia and that redirect does not represent a global view point. It may be sensible to bring that redirect up for discussion. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 02:02, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose UK Singles Chart is far more explanatory. Otherwise it would need to be Official Singles Chart (UK) which seems a bit pointless.Tuzapicabit (talk) 07:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. This chart has, over many years, been compiled by several different companies. For most people, the current name as it appears on the company's website is not the most common name that the chart is known by, nor does it reflect the history of the chart. --Michig (talk) 08:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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