Talk:Tropical cyclone basins

Mediterranean Tropical Cyclones

"These systems are a subject of some debate within meteorological circles whether they closely fit the definition of tropical cyclones, subtropical cyclones, or polar lows"..
This common sentence is incorrect, is wrong.. they are Not polar lows. That the Mediterranean Tropical Cyclone is ugual Karl'80, Vince'05 or Grace'05. Not be a doubt. Many Mediterranean tropical like Cyclones occured over sea surface (18-27°C) most warm Karl'80, Vince'05 or Grace'05 (24-17°C). They can be intensity of tropical depresssion, tropical storm or (very rare)hurricane, but they cause flooding, damage and fatalties. It obvious that these small tropical cyclones they are occured for tropical transition. (K.Emanuel: cutoff cold low is an ideal embryo in which a Mediterranean tropical cyclone can be produced). Tropical transition refers to the dynamic and thermodynamic transformation of disturbances of sub-tropical or extratropical origin into tropical cyclones. This is often synonymous with a transition from a cold-core cyclone to a warm-core cyclone . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.60.130.77 (talk) 15:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Map?

This page almost begs for a map. I don't have the skill for it, but I'm sure that there are others who might be able to whip one up. --Donovan Ravenhull 00:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Map good!!!!!! 71.102.144.27 03:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

To do

More anything. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

South Pacifi c

This is in response to the entry on my talk page. JTWC may have done a study on the southern pacific over the years. I'd search there, since it looks like you've already used BoM for Australia.Thegreatdr 16:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Exact #1 average typhoon alley target area

"The coast of China sees the most landfalling tropical cyclones worldwide": can one perhaps refine this ... to say if indeed Taiwan is #1. Jidanni 14:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Northwestern Pacific

Should there be a separate article on Northwestern Pacific tropical cyclones (typhoons), like there is for Atlantic and Pacific Hurricanes? It is the most active region, after all. I was looking for information specific to that region earlier, and couldn't find it in any article on its own. I would start one myself, but wouldn't be able to create anything more than a very brief stub. EricDerKonig 206.154.229.139 19:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

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The most glaring problem with this article is formatting. In order to improve it, some sections need to be expanded, which had been commented on previously in 2007, and there has been little expansion since that comment. See the clarify comment I inserted into the southwest Pacific ocean, as the previously defined reference did not cover that sentence, which did not appear correct anyhow. Thegreatdr (talk) 12:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Commented where? What is not in the article that prevents it from being a good article? Nergaal (talk) 03:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

The comment is within the box on the top of the article's talk page. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 22:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Review

Hi! I will be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have the full review up soon. Dana boomer (talk) 14:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   • The very last sentence of the article, you say "with up to 80 deaths or so in every season". This should probably just be "up to 80 deaths".

   Fixed. Dana boomer (talk) 13:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   • Ref 19 (WMO) deadlinks

   • done Nergaal (talk) 17:23, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   • I am going to drop a note on Juliancolton's page to see if there's anything that he feels is missing from this page. I'm not a TC expert, so I don't think I'd know if something vital was missing if it bit me on the nose. I'm doing a complete check of the references and prose, and hopefully he'll drop by with a few comments on the content!

   • The content looks good overall. Some more information would be nice, especially for the last three sections. Especially for the South Pacific, if you can't find any more general info, add some examples of severe storms. Cheers, –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 15:40, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

   • I have looked for quite a while and either these regions are under-covered by wikipedia, or I simply couldn't find a way to get a list of these severe storms. Do you have a good place to find these? Nergaal (talk) 18:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

   • List of tropical cyclones might be a good place to start, but I'm not sure if it has information for the basins in question. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

   • That was one of the first places I checked but I cannot say I found even one. Nergaal (talk) 18:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

   ←how is it now? Nergaal (talk) 04:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

This looks like a very nice summary article. I have a couple of comments above, and as I said, I am going to drop a note on Julian's page to see if he has any comments. Drop me a note if you have any questions. Dana boomer (talk) 14:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

A lack of information about the topic within wikipedia should not be an excuse for lack of expansion, since MoS states that wikipedia articles cannot be used as references. If the southwest Pacific section, for example, is extremely short/stubby and confounding the formatting of the page, then do some googling or visit the library and see if they have any info that could expand the related sections. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I said that article was one of the first I've checked, not the only one! I was probably confusing when I said on wikipedia, but I think the correct word is that those zones aren't very well covered in general. Nergaal (talk) 22:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd consult the Bureau of Meteorology website (Australia's national weather service). Last time I checked, they did have a bit of historic information online for Australia...though I'm not sure how much would be applicable to this article in particular. Thegreatdr (talk) 00:06, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

If this is all of the information there is, then I would say the article is complete! Everything looks good to me...it seems to be comprehensive coverage of the topic. If you find more info in the future, please add it in, though. I am passing this article for GA - nice work! Dana boomer (talk) 13:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, only "6 typhoons per year" hitting the Philippines?

"The coast of China sees the most landfalling tropical cyclones worldwide. The Philippines archipelago receives an average of 6-7 tropical cyclone landfalls per year". Can anyone elaborate about this, please? Well, this statement is referenced alright, but seriously the Philippines gets only 6 cyclones on average per year? That statement seems to be underrated and is next to impossible. In fact, we'd be the luckiest people on earth if we ever have an average of all landfalling cyclones that small. I'll edit this one as soon as I get hold on a reliable source. --Rex 1213 (talk) 12:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Its acctully 8-9 cyclones per year that make landfall according to - PAGASA. If you think about the number it does make sense since you have several veer away from the phillipines. Jason Rees (talk) 17:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh I see.. Thanks.. I was thinking about the total number of tropical cyclones that enter the Philippine Area of Responsibility without even thinking that most of them don't really make a direct contact to land or landfall. Now that makes sense. --Rex 1213 (talk) 12:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Mediterranean tropical cyclone

In case anyone was wondering, I userfied the aforementioned article to User:Syntheticalconnections/Mediterranean tropical cyclone (who requested to keep it), but I merged the useful content to this article. The article was mostly original research, and not very encyclopediac. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:34, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Just a note in the event of a future article is created - [1] SSD has issued Dvorak classifications for the first time ever on a system in the Mediterranean. In addition, it has been listed on NRL as 99L. Also, here is a news story describing it producing rainfall. They called it a "depression". --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

And we... officially... have a Mediterranean storm? [2] - they list it as 01M. Should we bring back the article on Medit. tropical cyclones, or have an article on this actual storm? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:47, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Let's start from scratch again on the Medit - no OR. If this storm happens to become reported/impacts, let's have an article on it too. I've created a draft here; I want more on their origin than individual cyclones. HurricaneFan25 19:04, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

ATM we only have 1 SAB bull calling Rolf Tropical right?.Jason Rees (talk) 19:30, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

FU Berlin classifies it as a tropical system. BTW, I'm working on a draft here. HurricaneFan25 19:54, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

With all of the new refs that have been added to User:Atomic7732/Mediterranean tropical cyclone, can we restore this article, and with its contents? 72.197.249.141 (talk) 23:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

So, can I take that as a yes? 72.197.249.141 (talk) 23:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to, but IMO that version isn't written very well (no offense). I have a sandbox for the article in my userspace, but I don't feel like working on it at the moment. HF25 00:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Added the longitude demarkates the basin boundary between Australia and South Indian basins

This seems like an odd question, since it should be stated within this good article (grumble). The map shows 90E...and I'm hearing 80E from others in the project. Which is correct? If 80E is correct, it needs to be stated in this article with a reference and the map needs to be fixed. If it is dependent upon the year you are discussing, that should also be included. Used reference from Supportstorm's talk page to fix this item. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 21:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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Expand everything, and fix top-heaviness. Titoxd(?!?) 05:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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Adding the Southeast Pacific

Should we add the southeast Pacific as its own basin? Its distinct from the Western South Pacific, and it has been known to spawn tropical or subtropical cyclones on occasion, such as "Katie" in 2015 and a recent unnamed storm. If not, then perhaps we could add a section under the South Pacific to include southeast Pacific cyclones. Cooper 14:07, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Both systems were formally unnamed but were unofficially named Katie and Lexi but anyway I dont think we should add it as its own basin but just expand the South Pacific section out to include the whole of the SPAC including the Aus region. This is because I do not see the dynamics of the SEPAC as any different from the SWPAC and would lead to questions as to where the SEPAC starte,d. 180? The Dateline? 140W? 120W?.Jason Rees (talk) 14:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

GA from 2008. There are some uncited areas in the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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