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Requested move 21 May 2019 edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago9 comments6 people in discussion

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Moved. See a strong general agreement below to change "In" to "in", and only a very rough consensus to continue to use the (TV special) qualifier. So there is no prejudice if editors want to open a new RM immediately to try to garner consensus for a different disambiguator. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 12:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

It was proposed in this section that The Cricket In Times Square (TV special) be renamed and moved to The Cricket in Times Square (TV special).

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The Cricket In Times Square (TV special) → The Cricket in Times Square (TV special) – The Cricket in Times Square, the novel this was based on, also has a separate article — but the only difference between these two titles is the capitalization of the filler article "in", which means that anybody looking for either of these topics is going to have a 50-50 chance of ending up in the wrong place. You create a new article about a topic with the same name as another article by using disambiguation, not by breaking standard capitalization rules to create a redlink that offers no way to actually distinguish which topic is which. Bearcat (talk) 21:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Support per nomination. The title in its present state definitely contravenes MOS:CT. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Oppose proposal as "TV special" is not supported by WP:NCTV as that term is a marketing term and not one which describes the format of the object - a TV program or a TV short film. So either The Cricket In Times Square (TV program) or The Cricket In Times Square (film) could work here. --Gonnym (talk) 09:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Comment. The parenthetical qualifier "(TV special)" has been appended to a number of main title headers depicted under Category:Animated television specials, Category:CBS television specials, Category:NBC television specials, and in various Category:Television specials by year, starting with Category:1954 television specials. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 14:03, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
- And yet, still not listed as a viable option in WP:NCTV. I can show you numerous links to "(anime)" that still exists even-though "anime" has been deprecated in a RfC. See also Talk:The Decision (TV program)#Requested move 7 December 2018. --Gonnym (talk) 17:08, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Move to The Cricket in Times Square (film) - "TV special" is a marketing term, not a format or presentation style like (TV series), (TV program), or (film) as how we define use in WP:NCTV. This is fundamentally an animated short film which aired on television, even winning an award at an animated film festival. -- Netoholic @ 18:16, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
- Worth noting that that newspaper clipping uses the term "TV special" but not "film". Similar story with the newspaper article cited in the article (though it uses the terms "animated special" and "ABC special"). Colin M (talk) 02:49, 23 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Support TV special may be a "marketing term", but it's recognizable and the term most commonly used to describe the subject in RS. "film" and "TV programme" have misleading connotations here. Colin M (talk) 02:44, 23 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

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