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Requested move 25 May 2020 edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago7 comments7 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 21:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Princess Marie-Françoise of Bourbon-Parma → Françoise de Bourbon-Lobkowicz – Françoise de Bourbon-Lobkowicz is the common name of the subject. Using the common name is a policy of this project. Her foundation calls her Françoise de Bourbon-Lobkowicz. Le Figaro does too, as do other sources. There is no indication that she endorses being called a princess (or that sources call her that). Surtsicna (talk) 18:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Support. An honorific should be dropped unless it is part of a substantive title, according to WP:TITLESINTITLES. "Bourbon-Parma" is her natal family name, not the name of a place that she could be princess of. Allan Rice (talk) 05:12, 26 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Support per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, and the obvious strong consensus against this kind of "royalism mongering" at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Labeling modern descendants of nobility with theoretical titles: NPOV, BLP, NOR and other policy problems. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 11:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Support per all the reasons given by the editors above.Smeat75 (talk) 11:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Support per nom, and in particular because of the issues around Wikipedia's widespread invention of Royal titles. Kahastok talk 16:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Support. It was this kind of stuff that motivated me to friend a bunch of random "royalty" on MySpace when I was 12... JoelleJay (talk) 18:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

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