Talk:Peter Lombard

Latest comment: 9 years ago by 24.207.130.41 in topic Dates and categories

The Sentences edit

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In addition to a number of style edits, I have made a couple of substantive revisions to the discussion of the sentences, based on Knowles' Evolution of Medieval Thought and Copleston's History of Medieval Philosophy -- my sole sources of information on this subject. According to Knowles, after 1500 Aquinas passed Lombard in the "most-commented-upon" competition. According to both, Lombard was not an original genius but rather an indefatigable collector, organizer, and evaluator of others' work.

I haven't edited the discussion of his views on charity, but my sources don't suggest that this is the most "famous and controversial" part of the Sentences. According to Knowles, it was largely ignored by later commentators. According to Copleston, one controversial aspect of the Sentences -- and the subject of an explicit criticism by Roger Bacon -- was that it gave too much prominence to speculative theology and not enough to the scripture itself. Can somebody with access to more material flesh this out or provide input?

Aldrichio 16:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

"on the dole" doesn't sound very appropriate for an encyclopedic article Arcan (talk) 17:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I added the reference to St. Augustine in the section on charity, and removed the word "audacious," which unfairly cast Peter Lombard's position in an overly negative light (he certainly wasn't the only person thought this way, even though the idea soon fell out of favor). More clarity should be given with reference to Deus Caritas Est.... i.e., which section is the editor speaking of, exactly? Thank you. 24 November 2014

Peter Lombard's family on the dole? edit

On the 18th January 2007 somebody using IP address 212.219.118.130 feeling in a humorous mood added the words 'on the dole' to the sentence 'Peter Lombard was born in Lumellogno to a poor family'. In the United Kingdom the phrase 'on the dole' is a pejorative expression to refer to someone who is receiving unemployment benefit - what is generically referred to in the US as 'welfare'. The interesting thing is that for over two years nobody appears to have spotted this and all the world has been told in earnestness that the parents of Peter Lombard were 'on the dole'. During that time the article was given a 'B' rating by WikiProject Biography! 13th March 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.10.218 (talk) 22:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Dates and categories edit

Currently, the lead paragraph gives c. 1096 to 1164 as his birth and death years. It cites 19th century sources. Most of the authority records attached to the VIAF link give ca. 1100 to 1164. Those sources are chiefly later 20th century. Should the dates be changed in the lead as well as the categories based on the more recent research?--FeanorStar7 11:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

--Also further in the article is listed as dieing in 1160. 24.207.130.41 (talk) 14:44, 7 February 2015 (UTC)Reply