Talk:Veneration of Mary in the Catholic Church

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Queen of Angels FoundationEdit

This material [1] has been repeatedly added and removed. I agree with the original deletion edit summary "too much weight". The addition is about one particular organization in Los Angeles and its activities and does not belong in this article. Meters (talk) 01:27, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

And added by the same user for a fourth time. Waiting a year and one-half does not change anything,. The material still does not belong. Removed again. Meters (talk) 05:19, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
@Meters: looks like that editor may have a COI. He's never taken part in any discussions either. I've given him a warning. Doug Weller talk 13:00, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
@Doug Weller: They stopped editing for 18 months after the COI warning and pointer to EW, but there they are again with the same edit. I agree with your comment on the user's page. This SPA has had enough rope. Meters (talk) 20:16, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 30 March 2019Edit

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure)KB3035583talk 00:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)



Veneration of Mary in the Catholic ChurchMary in the Catholic Church – Would this do, while broadening the scope slightly? There seems to be no such article preexistingly. Not sure, though, please c.f. Catholic Mariology. PPEMES (talk) 17:39, 30 March 2019 (UTC)--Relisted. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:05, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose the subject isn't the historical lady, it is the veneration. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:53, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Read the first sentence of the article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 01:44, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

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HyperduliaEdit

The point in the lede about hyperdulia is quite an important technical point about Marian veneration from a Catholic or Eastern perspective. I do not know why it should be removed. In fact the Protestant accusation of "Mariolatry" does kind of relate to this where we mention latria but without sources and a dispassionate discussion of the refutation, I don't see a need to include that. Secondly, perhaps someone should fact-check through this article. I just found the infobox claiming that "Catholics believe Mary didn't die..." false -- corrected. There may be worse stuff hanging around in here. Elizium23 (talk) 05:49, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Indeed! Johnbod (talk) 17:27, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Whether Mary died before being assumed into heaven remains disputed among Catholic theologians: by the Assumption we declare that her body did not corrupt. But in heaven, as Paul says, there are not physical but spiritual bodies. I agree that the precise type of veneration which Catholics afford Mary is topical to this article, along with correction of false notions. Jzsj (talk) 17:39, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

“Among other heretical views…”Edit

Seems like the opening line of this article is suboptimal. I could be mistaken, but it seems to be a subjective judgement on Roman Catholicism rather than something becomint of an objective, detached article. Any thoughts? 47.221.153.136 (talk) 18:05, 23 December 2021 (UTC)