Talk:Mets–Willets Point station (IRT Flushing Line)

Willets Point-Shea Stadium

Since the new field is being built at this train stop and it is called Citi Field, does any one know if this station will also have its named changed or will it still be called Willets Point-Shea Stadium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.75.73 (talk) 15:31, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

• It is now Mets-Willets Point. I will make the move soon. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 03:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Casey Stengel Bus Depot

Is there any way we can add the proximity of the Casey Stengel Bus Depot into the article? It is located just east of the station. ----DanTD (talk) 11:18, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Willets Point–Shea Stadium (IRT Flushing Line) → Mets–Willets Point (IRT Flushing Line) — March 2009 map[1] indicates new name — Acps110 (talk) 00:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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Discussion

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• Comment. Also affected is Shea Stadium (LIRR station). 199.125.109.126 (talk) 05:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
• Support. The station's article should definitely be renamed, and I can't see why there would be any opposition to this, especially since Shea Stadium no longer exists. –Dream out loud (talk) 20:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
• Comment I realize the article was already reanmed, but if LIRR renamed the station itself, I'll support it. ----DanTD (talk) 05:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Google Street View

Maybe it's an entrance too? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=&aq=0&sll=40.674487,-73.837738&sspn=0.019073,0.038495&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mets+-+Willets+Point&ll=40.754734,-73.845334&spn=0.008972,0.038495&z=15&layer=c&cbll=40.754724,-73.845338&panoid=JkWf_6MheFWcjx3fcduSEg&cbp=11,275.46,,0,-0.5 193.28.155.226 (talk) 13:34, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

• I've added it. If I'm wrong, please delete it. 193.28.155.226 (talk) 10:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
  • It's the same entrance as this one: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=40.754722,-73.845342&spn=0.011411,0.038581&sll=40.674487,-73.837738&sspn=0.019073,0.038495&hnear=Mets+-+Willets+Point&layer=c&cbll=40.754722,-73.845342&panoid=PeHfeZoqniHVGCKT5FYmjw&cbp=12,275.89,,2,-0.22&t=m&z=15 Epic Genius 03:15, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. That IP was me, I eventualy found the best view of it. Vcohen (talk) 07:30, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

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@Epicgenius: I am trying to fix the images so the text isn't squeezed between them on either side and am trying to have a couple of them in the history section, but it isn't working for some reason. When you have a chance, can you see what the issue is? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 10:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Kew Gardens 613, I have rearranged the images. The issue is that the infobox is pushing down all the images on the right, so Template:Stack should be used. The other option is to align all the images to the left. epicgenius (talk) 13:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: John M Wolfson (talk · contribs) 03:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Prose

• The 1910 Dual Contracts called for extending the lines of the Interborough Rapid Transit Company (IRT) and Brooklyn–Manhattan Transit Corporation (BMT) to Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx. Didn't the BMT already have service in Brooklyn?
  • Yes, and the IRT also had lines in the Bronx. However, both companies built additional lines in these boroughs, or they extended their existing lines. (the BMT only had lines in Brooklyn, Manhattan, and Queens, but this isn't important to the article). I have clarified this now. Epicgenius (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
• the "Willets Point" in the station's name was derived from the boulevard, which in turn was named after the Willets Point peninsula at Fort Totten, three miles (4.8 km) northeast. Should be in the 1920s, not with the Shea Stadium reopening.
  • I put this sentence here because the station's original name was "Willets Point Boulevard". Since the station is at Willets Point Boulevard, it would be redundant to explain that the station is named after the boulevard. Confusion only arose when the station was renamed "Willets Point–Shea Stadium", since Willets Point originally referred to something completely different. Unlike Chicago, NYC doesn't typically drop street suffixes from station names. Epicgenius (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
    • Ah, I see; the "Boulevard" part is the important factor here. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
• Maybe clarify which platforms/tracks are Manhattan-bound, but perhaps northbound and southbound suffice.
  • I have clarified this in the prose. Epicgenius (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
• Breadth checks out. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing

• Sourcing checks out; interesting external links as well. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Neutrality

• Any explanation for the city as to the half-hearted accessibility? Not to "both sides" it here, but Damen station (CTA Blue Line) is still inaccessible because the CTA says it's hard to renovate it due to its heritage, I wonder if this is something similar. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
  • A few decades ago, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority created a list of 100 key stations that it planned to make ADA-accessible by 2020. The Mets-Willets Point station wasn't on that list, so the MTA typically wouldn't add any elevators or ramps unless it was part of a five-year capital program or unless a developer paid for it. The ramps to the Flushing-bound side platform already existed, so the MTA chose to rehabilitate these ramps and make them ADA-accessible. There are also ramps to the Manhattan-bound platform, but these ramps are extremely steep and aren't accessible. Sadly, unlike the CTA, the MTA really dragged its feet in making subway stations accessible, so this station probably won't receive elevators unless it's rebuilt. Epicgenius (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Images

• Licensing checks out; suggest adding alt text where not already. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Stability

• No edit wars. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

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@John M Wolfson: Thanks for the review. I've addressed your comments now, except for the alt text, which I'll add soon. Epicgenius (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass Checks out. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 17:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

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The Mets–Willets Point station

• ... that the Willets Point Boulevard station went from serving about 66,000 passengers per year in 1930 to over 110,000 passengers on a single day in 1939? Source: "Queens Growth Reflected by Fare Figures: Well Known Transit Points in Borough Have Been Displaced by Others Flushing Leading Center 10,071,912 Persons Used Main Street Last Year". New York Herald Tribune. February 8, 1931. p. E2; "278,000, First Day, Used Transit Lines; Commission Figures, However, Do Not Include Travel to the Fair After 7 P.M." The New York Times. May 2, 1939
  • ALT1: ... that the Willets Point Boulevard station went from serving 66,042 passengers per year in 1930 to 110,689 passengers on a single day in 1939? Source: "Queens Growth Reflected by Fare Figures: Well Known Transit Points in Borough Have Been Displaced by Others Flushing Leading Center 10,071,912 Persons Used Main Street Last Year". New York Herald Tribune. February 8, 1931. p. E2; "278,000, First Day, Used Transit Lines; Commission Figures, However, Do Not Include Travel to the Fair After 7 P.M." The New York Times. May 2, 1939
  • ALT2: ... that despite having been enlarged for the 1939 New York World's Fair, the Willets Point Boulevard station served "practically no resident population" by 1949? Source: "Flushing Bus Terminal May Be Transferred". Daily News. December 26, 1949. p. 406.
  • ALT3: ... that the Mets–Willets Point station is only wheelchair-accessible during sports games and special events? Source: "Accessibility at the Mets-Willets Point subway station". PCAC. June 21, 2009
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Freeman (clergyman)
  • Comment: If anyone has more hook ideas, these would be much appreciated.

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mets–Willets Point station (IRT Flushing Line); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
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• Cited: - just a concern
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Epicgenius: Good article. Though, the source for alt3 doesn't explicitly state that it opens on Mets games. Though, it does say game days and I'm not knowledgeable on baseball so maybe I'm wrong. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Thanks for the review. I have changed ALT3 to just "sports games" - to be honest, I think the platform in question might operate during the US Open as well. Epicgenius (talk) 21:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

better. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:45, 15 February 2023 (UTC)