Talk:Klick (company)

Latest comment: 5 hours ago by Gobonobo in topic Advertising and NPOV Tags

Confusion

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Hi TheTechie! Thanks for your feedback; although, I'm confused as there are 58 references, many of which are significant or in-depth coverage by independent, reliable global and business media or leading trade journals.There are also numerous industry-leading awards. This makes a strong case for notability, and I'd appreciate another review. Preceding transferred comment by Marisa at Klick 18:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC) thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 23:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Marisa at Klick You are free to resubmit and have a third opinion. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 23:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. We're discussing it here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#18:06,_9_May_2024_review_of_submission_by_Marisa_at_Klick. Marisa at Klick (talk) 16:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also being discussed at Wikipedia:Teahouse. What the company and its senior management/founders say about itself should not be quoted and those references do not contribute to notability. i made some brutal deletions which in my opinion improve the potential for the draft's acceptance. David notMD (talk) 11:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Resubmission of tighter, better-sourced version (thanks!)

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Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all of your feedback, analysis, and support. I've resubmitted a new version. Marisa at Klick (talk) 19:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Updated with recent awards

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Hi Everyone,

We've updated the draft with 4 citations about recent awards. Looking forward to a review. Thanks much! Marisa at Klick (talk) 16:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@TheTechie: Hello again. I've taken in all of the advice I've received and made a lot of progress since the initial submission, by focusing on fewer and more significant, independent, and reliable sources. Would you please consider reviewing the draft again? Thanks so much! Marisa at Klick (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Qcne: Hi again, you were giving us really thoughtful advice and clear guidance and we've tried to follow it closely. We removed all non-significant, non-independent sources, and added numerous better citations. Would you be willing to please give us a fresh review based on NCORP? Thank you, and looking forward to your honest opinion! Marisa at Klick (talk) 15:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Michael D. Turnbull: Hi, you offered very constructive feedback at the Teahouse about this draft. Would you be willing to please review it with its recent (and major) changes? Thanks kindly, Marisa at Klick (talk) 15:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
This reads much better now, to my eyes. Its acceptance will depend on convincing the reviewer that Klick meets WP:NCORP. It probably does, IMO, owing to the various awards which themselves have Wikipedia articles. These are much better than trying to "inherit notability" from Klick's client list. Many of the citations you have currently are based on interviews, which are therefore not WP:Independent of the company. That's OK for backing up simple facts but it would help the reviewer if you could highlight about three citations that really are independent (assuming you have them!). You could do that by adding a comment at the top of the draft along the lines of "see in particular cites #3, 8, 9" or whichever. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hey again @Marisa at Klick. I think it now meets NORG, but my one bit of feedback is that the entire Operations section seems a bit clunkily worded, I would replace it with something like...
Klick Health is described [by who?] as one of the largest independent health agencies. The company reports [insert specific growth figure]. In 2006, Klick Health replaced its internal email systems with a new software program intended for messaging and project management. This program, named Genome, incorporates analytics to potentially improve productivity and has been associated with the agency's expansion. The organizational structure of Klick Health does not include a human resources department, which has been a point of concern for some employees. Qcne (talk) 15:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your excellent suggestions. I've implemented them. Would you feel comfortable reviewing the article one last time, and if you still think it meets NORG, consider moving it live? Thank you again very much! Marisa at Klick (talk) 16:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Marisa at Klick I think that puts it over the edge, I've accepted it. Please add some WP:CATEGORIES. Qcne (talk) 17:00, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Advertising and NPOV Tags

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Hi Everyone. I'm really excited that the article is live. Now, I want to bring it up to the standards and expectations that will make it a great article.

I am a paid employee of Klick, as I immediately disclosed when I created my account. I used the paid contributor template on my user page, as @DoubleGrazing kindly requested.

I submitted my draft through Articles for Creation where it was reviewed and moved live by @Qcne with additional guidance from @Michael D. Turnbull.

I'm trying to understand the warnings added by @Gobonobo. I am not aware of what phrases, sentences, paragraphs, or other elements promote the subject beyond what the sources directly report. I don't see which words, sections, or sources are not in line with the Neutral Point of View policy. If you can please help me understand what justifies the warning tags, I'd greatly appreciate it, so that I can help address those issues.

Just a note: I originally submitted a much more complete draft that did not meet NORG, but I cut it way back at the recommendations of several editors. It's possible that the longer version, if incorporated, would make the article more balanced; although, I don't currently understand what in the article is advertising or non-neutral.

Thanks so much for your help and assistance. I appreciate your time and expertise. Marisa at Klick (talk) 21:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Marisa at Klick:. Please note that most Wikipedia editors are volunteers and that taking the time to process your requests and respond to your complaints takes away from the vital tasks of maintaining an encyclopedia. I would advise you to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and WP:NOPAY, our guideline about paid editors like yourself. If you have basic questions about what certain cleanup templates mean, our documentation is quite extensive, but if you have questions, you are welcome to bring them to the WP:TEAHOUSE. gobonobo + c 00:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)Reply