Talk:Joe Joyce (boxer)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by StraussInTheHouse in topic Requested move 20 May 2019

Requested move 20 May 2019

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move Joe JoyceJoe Joyce (footballer). No consensus regarding Joe Joyce (boxer)Joe Joyce. I have converted Joe Joyce to a disambiguation page, this should not be construed as the determination that there is no primary topic, and this is without prejudice to a further requested move discussion regarding whether the boxer or the footballer should occupy the base name to overcome any two dabs problems. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 10:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)Reply


Joe Joyce (footballer) used to have the main Joe Joyce page but the boxer is now clearly more notable, however I can't move him because a redirect obviously now exists at the original page. MaineCrab (talk) 01:09, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

This is a contested technical request (permalink). – Ammarpad (talk) 06:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Moved from the Technical requests as determination of who's more notable is better done at the right venue. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:50, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Support 1st move, Weak oppose 2nd move - Primary topic swaps aren't easy to implement, and often leads to users ending up at the wrong page. For now, I'd say there's no clear primary topic, so a disambiguation page should be at the basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 12:11, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Support first move, weak support second move. There's an element of recentism with the second, but the boxer's career already seems to have eclipsed both the footballer and rugby player and it's easily the most viewed of the three articles. Fixing internal links is a pretty straightforward task though. PC78 (talk) 15:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Support first move per Paintspot Infez and PC78. Oppose second move per Paintspot Infez. Since there is no undisputed WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, Joe Joyce should redirect to the Joseph Joyce disambiguation page. —Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 00:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • I proposed the move so maybe I don't count but support first move and support second move. I don't think it's recentism to suppose that an Olympic medallist who is frequently covered on television and in the press is the default person to hold his name. MaineCrab (talk) 23:55, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Support first, oppose second. The footballer made nearly 500 league appearances. No primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

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