Talk:Jewish humor/Archive 1

Archive 1

Revision

...this page needs major revision! I just wouldn't know where to start. Queerwiki 19:53, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This is taken from the Judaism article. It is ostensibly about Jewish humor. However, there is no analysis of the humour. I don't think this should be put in the article, unless there is some analysis that relates this either to Jewish culture or theories of humor:

The actions of the legendary adherents of Hasidic Judaism are examples of Anecdodal humour, especially the Baal Shem Tov, Zev Wolf and Levi Yitzchak.

The "actions" are examples of anecdotal humor? This doesn't really read well.

Example:

At the festival of Simhat Torah, the day of rejoicing in the law, the Besht's disciples made merry in his house. They danced and drank and had more and more wine brought up from the celler. After some hours, the wife of the Baal Shem went to his room and said "If they don't stop drinking, we soon won't have any wine left for the rites of the sabbath, for Kiddush and Havdalah."

He said "You are right. So go and tell them to stop." When she opened the door to the big room, this is what she saw: the disciples were dancing around in a circle, and around the circle twined a blazing ring of blue fire. Then she herself took a jug in her right hand and a jug in her left and went down to the celler. Soon after she returned, with both vessels full to the brim.

Like most tales of this sort, the ending and the moral is left for the reader to guess at.

Nu? How have readers (or listeners?) interpreted this? By what criteria do they interpret it? How do they know it is "humor" and not another genre of story? Slrubenstein

Novak / Waldoks book

I added the following to the list of references:

• Novak, William & Waldoks, Moshe Big Book of Jewish Humor, originally published by Harper Perennial (1981) ISBN 006090917X.

It's where I got my info for my changes to the Chelm section, although I don't have a copy at hand. It's an excellent book: if someone wants to really improve this article, they could find a ton of material there. Fun, too: it contains large numbers of jokes and comic stories, from the Talmud to Lenny Bruce, and traces themes in Jewish humor, including the differences between the humor of different times and places. I originally picked it up expecting a joke book, it's much more than that. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:25, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I liked that also - I didn't have it handy, so I didn't reference it - thanks for the addition. --Goodoldpolonius2 04:14, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Ashkenazaic

This seems to be rather specifically Ashkenazaic Jewish humour. Shouldn't we identify it as such? -- Jmabel | Talk 00:12, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone know any Sephardic humor? I don't know if we need to specifically identify the article as Ashkenazaic humor - this is the "Jewish humor" referenced when the phrase is used in English, drawing on the traditions of Eastern Europe through the Catskills to today. Besides, it is clearly broken into catagories - Eastern European, American, Israeli, etc -- we just need a Sephardic one. I would love for someone to improve the Israeli section, and add a Sephardic one, though. --Goodoldpolonius2 04:18, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Humor/ humour

The title of this article is "jewish humour", but the humor spelling is used throughout. Since the focus of this article is primarily American, does anyone have a problem with it being moved to "Jewish humor"? RMoloney (talk) 00:01, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:Jew jokes

I am wondering about the appropriateness of Image:jew jokes.jpg, currently at the top of the article. A 1908 book with that title would presumably have been (mostly anti-semitic) jokes about Jews, not jokes by Jews. Unless someone specifically knows otherwise, it should be removed from this page. -- Jmabel | Talk 18:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

My suspicion is confirmed: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/haventohome/haven-challenges.html, search there for "jokes at the expense". Removing. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Jewish culture

I'm spreading the word about this WikiProject, which is intended to be a forum for discussion on all aspects of Jewish culture / contribution to society (apart from the explicitly religious). Please feel free to join in and help out! RMoloney (talk) 23:38, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Danger of turning into a jokebook

Recent additions: they're reasonably good jokes (although the barbershop one is a bit obvious), but do they really add to the article? Do they tell us anything additional about Jewish humor? My own feeling is that the gallows humor one does, but the other two do not. Should we be working on something in Wikibooks so this doesn't grow endlessly? -- Jmabel | Talk 20:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

A wikibooks jewish jokebook sounds like a fine idea. I'm also wondering if a "Jewish Comedians" page would be appropriate, for example for the section on Woody Allen. FiveRings 00:25, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

The first sentence of this page puzzled me

Can someone tell me what is so funny in the Torah? It's got a lot of laws and myths, but no humour. --24.199.67.217 00:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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I don't get the rabbi golfing joke?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Iansanderson (talk • contribs) June 18, 2006.

He can't admit he was golfing on the Day of Atonement, so he can never boast about his hole-in-one. - Jmabel | Talk 23:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Cut

I seriously doubt that the general statement made here about a change in the tone of Jewish humor is true; the joke is poorly told; and whoever wrote it is apparently unfamiliar with the word "Moroccan":

Nowadays, however, the humour has greatly changed. Instead of "kind" self-humour, the jokes became far more vulgar and racist, describing Persians and Yemenites as cheap, Romanians as thieves, Morrocians as very violent and so forth. Example:

• A Marrocian sits in a bar and drinks. A man comes rushing in and yells, "Haim, your wife's cheating on you!" The Marrocian gets mad, puts his knife between his teeth, rushes out--and gets run over by a truck. His last thoughts are, "boy, do I have to relax. I'm single and my name is David."

Jmabel | Talk 00:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

The main issue is not that you doubt or not, but the claim is unreferenced. BTW, the joke is at least 40 years old and it was not about Moroccans. `'mikka (t) 00:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone willing to do a related article on...

(1) The album You Don't Have to be Jewish, which featured traditional joke types (though without analysis - don't get the wrong idea!) and was also part of (2) a 1960s mainstream trend of Jewish-oriented humor ... Allan Sherman was part of this same thing.Lawikitejana 17:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Cut

The following was cut as "irrelevant":

An all Jewish anti-Semitic cartoon contest was announced in February 2006 in response to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy.

I think it was relevant, but could use considerable fleshing out to show how it fits in on several levels with Jewish humor (the very notion of Jews setting out to show that they could do better antisemitic cartoons than their actual enemies?) but I'm not planning to do it right now. Someone might want to work on this. - Jmabel | Talk 08:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the Joel Leyden thing. I got two stories confused: Leyden sponsored an SEO competition to prevent the Iranian contest from reaching the top on Google. I got the two stories crossed. - Jmabel | Talk 03:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

More than topics?

What struck me as a bit odd is that this article only mentions topics which may make a joke "Jewish," with no mention of styles, techniques, or methods which can make a joke "Jewish." Am I the only one that feels this way? I feel like the article only gives examples, but doesn't explain anything (i.e. there is no content about why there was Jewish humor in relation to the soviet union, while there is a joke that is an example) Bgold4 06:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Jewdar

Are there any objections to adding a reference to Jewdar to this page? The stand-alone article was recently deleted, but I felt that it perhaps had a place in this article. Article is userfied here. Thoughts? -- weirdoactor ^t|c 15:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Or perhaps it might better belong in Secular Jewish culture? Problem: the humor section links here. Hmmm. -- weirdoactor ^t|c 17:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

(comment copied from Jewdar 2nd AFD) I object. The term seems to have no verifiable connection to the traditional corpus of Jewish humour (which is what that article is about). Is there any literature including it mentioning which would be worthwhile there? —xyzzy_n 16:27, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Jewish culture, same objection as for humour. For those who haven’t read the deleted article, it had twelve references for uses of the term. From memory, about a third were written from a Jewish perspective, a quarter were from anti-Semitic websites and the rest from unrelated sources. Of the usable references (i. e. those passing close scrutiny under WP:RS) only one used the term as a major theme (and that one was from The eXile, best characterised as slightly left of Der Stürmer).

(In the interest of full disclosure, I didn’t like the Jewdar article and voted to delete.) —xyzzy_n 17:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I get the sense that you don't believe that information about "Jewdar" is encyclopedic, and has no place on Wikipedia, in any form, as part of any article, and that others who voted to delete would probably feel the same way, at least judging from their comments. Would that be an accurate assumption? Or is there, in your opinion, a place for even a short mention of “Jewdar” somewhere on Wikipedia? I'm asking to gauge whether or not I should expend any more energy on this. Thanks. -- weirdoactor ^t|c 18:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I found the deleted article in its entirety and in every part thoroughly unencyclopaedic. Since I have no other knowledge of the term than of what was in the article, I am skeptical about its validity and about the possibility of an encyclopaedic description. Conversely, I do not think that there would be much opposition to the term itself if you were to write about it in a way that respects the site’s standards and avoids the objections from the AFD. If you wish to try that, my advice is to start from scratch. —xyzzy_n 18:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the article is unencyclopedic. This by itself may not completely rule out the mention/explanation of the term Jewdar in Wikipedia, but it has so little to do with Jewish Humor that it should not be referenced in this article. If there was an article entitled "Antisemitic Humor", I’d have suggested referencing it there. Jimmy1988 13:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

"Anti-Semitic"? Interesting. By that logic; should we merge/re-direct gaydar to homophobia? I'm puzzled as to how you believe that "jewdar" has "little to do with Jewish Humor". I've only seen or heard the word used by other Jews, or in a "Jewish Humor" context, never as an attack or in a racist context, save for the reference to some white supremacist website in the article itself. -- weirdoactor ^t|c 16:27, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Good job on the article, guys!

I know this isn't a forum, but damn it all, these jokes are just too funny! My comments on the article will probably be erased instantly, but I'd definitiely suggest this article as a good candidate for future featured article! --Wassamatta 02:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)Wassamatta

More references & more historical content

Very impressive article! As a veteran collector of Jewish humorous materials, I'd like to add content on: (a) more references to Jewish humor; (b) earlier forms of Jewish humor; and (c) earlier forms of humor about Jews [not necessarily the same thing!] (Bookbayou 15:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC))

i dont know if it is relevant but...

In portugal, it is quite common to have hitler jokes, normally about him visiting a concentration camp. it goes like...

hitler arrives and says: jews, today i will let half of you go! Heinz, bring the chainsaw!

or other...

you know why hitler commited suidide? because he received the gas bill.

i dont know if this type of dark humour exists elsewhere... though it is not jewish humour, it is jewish related~, so i thought i sould ask here.Rubendenunes 18:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

a brilliant collection of jokes. needs a rewrite

The article unfortunately seems to be a mere though certainly wonderful collection of admirably dusty jewish jokes, anecdotes and some rather irrelevant information (foreign languages and especially Yiddish sound so incredibly funny, don't they?) The (indeed horrid yet better) article on British Humour would be a fine example where to begin to drive this one to. In it's current state the article is completely devoid of any content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.167.202.206 (talk) 20:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

humor

the word is spelled humor. i demand that the article name, all incidences of the word in the article, and each link to this article be changed to reflect that right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.46.238.3 (talk) 18:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

WTF? Okay, I'll bite. Both spellings are valid and a redirect is in place for "Jewish Humor". The general wikipedia rules are that it doesn't matter whether US or UK spellings are used - merely that they should be used consistently within an article. Aside from that, quotations from written sources should use the spellings in the original source, and article with a strong UK or US bent are probably best written using the spelling from the relevant country (i.e. US civil war = us spelling, UK civil war = uk spelling).Tomandlu 15:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Talmudic Humor

The relevant phrase about absurdity is modifying "elaborate legal arguments and situations" not the joke in question. It is therefore appropriate to characterize that these arguments are frequently seen as absurd, rather than make a POV comment about their innate absurdity. JoshuaZ 18:48, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The comment seems well in line with the source cited. 24.160.240.212 (talk) 08:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Generic humor?

It seems to me that many of the jokes being added to this page are generic jokes that have been been "converted to Judaism" by simply declaring that the characters involved are Jews. Just because a joke starts with “A Jewish man was walking down the street” instead of “This guy was walking down the street” doesn’t make it Jewish humor. I don't want to delete anything without consensus but we need to decide on some guidelines for the jokes we include in this page or it will quickly become a generic joke repository. Jimmy1988 (talk) 16:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

With a couple of exceptions, I've heard all of these told in a Jewish context, but I agree that some of them add little or nothing to the article. This is far too much a list of jokes and too little discussion of them for an encyclopedia. For starters, these should each certainly be cited to works on Jewish humor.

Again, as above, I recommend that someone working on this get hold of William Novak & Moshe Waldoks's Big Book of Jewish Humor, originally published by Harper Perennial (1981) ISBN 006090917X. You could cite for about half of these from that one source. You could also find a lot of analysis and discussion of the jokes there, it's not just a joke book. - Jmabel | Talk 17:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Definition of Jewish humour required

To justify this article a definition of Jewish humour is needed. This should define the key elements that allow a difference to be made from other types of humour. Failure to do this means that the comment above, "Generic humour", is correct. For Jewish humour to be distinguished from generic humour, a unique set of characteristics must be established.
Dean Armond (talk) 23:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Not Jewish humor

An ip editor just added some good examples of humor that is only quite nominally Jewish. However, I found them all hilarious, so I thought I'd preserve it here:

SYNAGOGUE BULLETIN BLOOPERS All the mistakes in spelling and typing were left in. These announcements were found in shul newsletters and bulletins. Even spell check wouldn't have helped.

1. Don't let worry kill you. Let your synagogue help. Join us for our Oneg after services. Prayer and medication to follow. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our congregation. 2. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs. 3. We are pleased to announce the birth of David Weiss, the sin of Rabbi and Mrs. Abe Weiss. 4. Thursday at 1 PM, there will be a meeting of the Little Mothers Club. All women wishing to become Little Mothers please see the rabbi in his private study. 5. The ladies of Hadassah have cast off clothing of every kind and they may be seen in the basement on Tuesdays. 6. A bean supper will be held Wednesday evening in the community center. Music will follow 7. Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM at the JCC. Please use the large double door at the side entrance. 8. Rabbi is on vacation. Massages can be given to his secretary. 9. Goldblum will be entering the hospital this week for testes. 10. The Men's Club is warmly invited to the Oneg hosted by Hadassah. Refreshments will be served for a nominal feel.

Obviously, this is completely wrong for this article; these are just generic examples of funny grammar and spelling bloopers, not representative of Jewish humor in any way. But still, funny. Eaglizard (talk) 22:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Generic is correct. A church version has been circulating on the internet for quite a while, almost identical except for a few differences of names and terms. One is obviously adapted from the other. Hertz1888 (talk) 22:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

But it is Jewish humor. What makes you think the humor of two (or more) religions can't overlap? Bus stop (talk) 23:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I would say that what makes something Jewish humor is something that defines it as uniquely Jewish, or something that represents something uniquely Jewish. Obviously this is subjective, and some of the existing jokes could be debated. But the fact that the humor "overlaps" makes it just humor, neither Jewish nor Christian, but simply funny stuff. It could just as well read "Don't let worry kill you, your City Council can help!", which would not then make it "Government Humor". Also, some of those here are debatable, such as becoming a "Little Mother" by visiting the Rabbi in his private study, which is more Jewish at least, since Priests (supposedly) don't have sex. But, there's already a fine joke displaying this contrast in the article. None of these actually added to the article on Jewish humor. Imo.Eaglizard (talk) 07:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

"[citation needed]"? Not really

The Israeli asks: "What's 'excuse me'?" As a note, this is not strictly an Israeli joke; the Israeli can be replaced by other people with little effect to the joke—for example, New Yorkers.) [citation needed]

Isn't a well-known New Yorkers' stereotype that they consider to have a "God-given right to be as rude as they please towards their fellow men", or something like that? In any case, the joke does work not only with any other people with a similar attitude, but also with any people who´s used to be treated as second-rate citizens - all that is needed is a simple substitution, and half a sense of humor... even if it´d make the joke a generic one, and nor necessarily Jewish humour. In any case, I don´t think there is any need for a citation here (and it seems that nobody is coming forth with one anyway), so I´m removing the tag.190.38.203.28 (talk) 20:55, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Possibly funnier variant

From the article:

In an Orthodox synagogue, the rabbi's wife is always pregnant. In a Conservative synagogue, the cantor [singer of prayers] is always pregnant. In a Reform synagogue, the rabbi is always pregnant.

The variant I knew:

At an Orthodox wedding, the bride's mother is pregnant. At a Conservative wedding, the bride is pregnant. At a Reform wedding, the rabbi is pregnant.

I think that's a better joke. Unless somone objects, I'd like to substitute it. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:28, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Here's another version: At an Orthodox wedding, the bride's mother is pregnant. At a Conservative wedding, the bride is pregnant. At a Reform wedding, the rabbi is pregnant. At a Reconstructionist wedding, The Rabbi and her partner are both pregnant. 204.15.6.99 (talk) 07:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Zen Koan

The last joke in section 2.4.4, "About Christianity", seems to be adapted from a Zen koan written in 1283 by the Japanese monk Muju. The collection of koan in which it appears is entitled *Shasekishu*. The koan is more easily found as #26 in the translated abridgement, *101 Zen Stories*. The text is as follows.

"Trading Dialogue for Lodging"

Provided he makes and wins an argument about Buddhism with those who live there, any wondering monk can remain in a Zen temple. If he is defeated, he has to move on.

In a temple in the northern part of Japan two brother monks were dwelling together. The elder one was learned, but the younger one was stupid and had but one eye.

A wandering monk came and asked for lodging, properly challenging them to a debate about the sublime teachings. The elder brother, tired that day from much studying, told the younger one to take his place. "Go and request the dialogue in silence," he cautioned.

So the young monk and the stranger went to the shrine and sat down.

Shortly afterwards the traveler rose and went in to the elder brother and said: "Your young brother is a wonderful fellow. He defeated me."

"Relate the dialogue to me," said the elder one.

"Well," explained the traveler, "first I held up one finger, representing Buddha, the enlightened one. So he held up two fingers, signifying Buddha and his teaching. I held up three fingers, representing Buddha, his teaching, and his followers, living the harmonious life. Then he shook his clenched fist in my face, indicating that all three come from one realization. Thus he won and so I have no right to remain here." With this, the traveler left.

"Where is that fellow?" asked the younger one, running in to his elder brother.

"I understand you won the debate."

"Won nothing. I'm going to beat him up."

"Tell me the subject of the debate," asked the elder one.

"Why, the minute he saw me he held up one finger, insulting me by insinuating that I have only one eye. Since he was a stranger I thought I would be polite to him, so I held up two fingers, congratulating him that he has two eyes. Then the impolite wretch held up three fingers, suggesting that between us we only have three eyes. So I got mad and started to punch him, but he ran out and that ended it!"

U.b.i.k. (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

He probably learned this and adapted it when he was a boychik from his mentor Len Cohen. Who knows? 1283 isn't exactly ancient in terms of the Hebrew timeline. --Jsderwin (talk) 18:21, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Request reversion of move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Red Slash 01:34, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

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Jewish humor → Jewish humour – Undoing this move made by self-described new user (see {{tianu}} on user talk page), contrary to WP:ENGVAR. TJRC (talk) 21:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Self-description as new user is obsolete and/or bogus. Edit history goes back 18 months+. Hertz1888 (talk) 23:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

• Support WP:BRD. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support move back to Jewish humour. Hertz1888 (talk) 23:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Archiving proposed

This page is cluttered with posts going back to 2005 on which discussion ended long ago. If there are no objections within the next few days, I propose to set up automatic archiving. Hertz1888 (talk) 23:54, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

A good idea.--Auric talk 11:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree. TJRC (talk) 19:16, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Sounds fine, but with settings that aren't too aggressive. There hasn't been a torrent of discussion here, but stuff that has been inactive for a year or more could be archived. Reify-tech (talk) 16:54, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done Hertz1888 (talk) 00:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Jewish humor didn't exist until 19th century

It should be noted in the article talking about Jewish humor that the 'famous jewish humor' didn't exist, was strictly forbidden by the Rabbis who ruled over Jewish communities until 19th century.

It was only thanks to the emancipated goyim host societies that Jewish conditions improved and liberalized, that humor came to jewishness, to jewish writings, and not thanks to the jews themselves, most of whom fiercely resisted progress. --173.178.52.74 (talk) 15:13, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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"Some Classics" section

The repeated inclusion of a slew of anti-semitic and holocaust related "jokes" that are, in fact, not examples of Jewish Humor in its own section called 'some classics" at the top of the page is not a good-faith addition to this page, and should be considered vandalism. (this text added by 69.5.122.90(talk))

A user is attempting to add a section of antisemitic jokes under the subheading above, almost certainly with the intent of spreading the attitudes expressed in the jokes. The section does not contribute important information to the subject as there are already many cited examples within the article of various types of Jewish humor.

Antisemitic humor probably deserves its own page, or rather inclusion in the project on topics of hate. If it is to be included in this article it should be properly contextualized as a brand of jokes of told by non-Jews, or repeated among Jews for irony, in which Jewish people are the subject, which humor is grounded in stereotypes (eg Jews as cheap) and taboo (Holocaust humor), and placed and formatted in the section that discusses Types of Jokes. MGoSeth (talk) 14:47, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Those jokes were originally told inter alia by the great classic comedians of all time such as Bernard Manning who himself had Jewish ancestry. On that note I have to say that based on my observations, you're demonstrating that regarding this dichotomy of jokes about Jews: those that Zionists tell about each other versus those told about them from outside, your people clearly have a chip on their shoulder. People paint us Irish as thick and we accept it. Get over it and move on. --ComedyRulesTheWorld (talk) 15:49, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

@MGoSeth Perhaps the section should be renamed as anti-semitic humor (not to imply that those who find it funny are actually anti-Semites). Jokes of this sort are very common and are the only sort of Jewish humor that most non-Jews are familiar with. They should be included somewhere if we're going to have pages about humor with specific individual jokes. Wikipedia isn't responsible for not hurting anyone's feelings (WP:IDONTLIKEIT) --Beaneater00 (talk) 15:58, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

• Agree with Beaneater00. I am happy to have the section properly introduced, redressed and even move to another part of article. Whatever it takes to show that there is no antisemitic sentiment intended to anybody. ComedyRulesTheWorld (talk) 16:01, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

I've removed the content entirely. It is wildly inappropriate, unsourced, and not neutral. Please do not add it again. – bradv🍁 16:18, 11 December 2019

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If you're going to talk about sourcing you might as well blank the whole page. Jokes don't need to be sourced. Anti-semitic humour is not obscure and should be included if there are to exist joke pages on Wikipedia, if not on this page than as part of another or its own page. -- Beaneater00 (talk) 16:21, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Beaneater00, it's unsourced, offensive, and not the subject of this article. This really shouldn't require explanation. – bradv🍁 16:42, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

No. GMG^talk 19:11, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

@Bradv. All jokes are offensive, Scotch jokes, Irish jokes, French jokes, Muslim jokes, Paki jokes, Chinese jokes, if you have a chip on your shoulder. If you haven't, then they all hilarious depending on the comedian's delivery. ComedyRulesTheWorld (talk) 20:05, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

ComedyRulesTheWorld No there's a difference between Jewish humor and anti-semetic "jokes." The article is about Jewish humor within Jewish culture, not blatantly racist and anti-semetic trolling of Jews. Stop restoring it. Praxidicae (talk) 20:09, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Hang on, where is your proof that the jokes you don't like are antisemtic? Do you follow world affairs? Once upon a time antisemtism was hatred of Jews. Today you only have to agree that Palestinians are entitled to a state and lo and behold, you're an antisemite in the eyes of Zionists and their comprador in the mainstream media and the mainstream regimes. This article is about jokes about Jews, not what tickles their fancy, and jokes about Jews take numerous forms. The bottom line is that many of you have a chip on the shoulder and that is why you are trying to pretend that certain types of jokes don't exist, or if they do, well then they are "antisemite". You're using the word antisemitic as some kind of trump card. If so, then your claim carried the burden of proof. Until this happens, the section stays. ComedyRulesTheWorld (talk) 20:15, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

ComedyRulesTheWorld I don't know, how about the fact that you created it under the heading Antisemetic jokes? Are you incapable of reading or just trolling? I highly suggest you redact your blatant personal attack in your edit summary too. Praxidicae (talk) 20:23, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

post election 2016 humor

How about we make up some jokes regarding Jared Kushner. Now that might be good for a few laughs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.90.156 (talk) 09:27, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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Citations

I have read this article recently and while it was somewhat entertaining, it seemed to be a collection of jokes without supporting citations. There's also some redundancy. —PaleoNeonate – 22:38, 11 September 2021 (UTC)