Talk:Ha Yu (actor)

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Requested move 5 February 2015

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move (non-admin closure)  — Amakuru (talk) 14:08, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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Ha Yu (actor) → Ha Yu – Unnecessary disambiguation, the Korean writer/director isn't even surnamed Yu/Yoo and therefore should only be known in the order of "Yu Ha" or "Yoo Ha", if anything a hatnote should suffice. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 07:50, 13 February 2015 (UTC) Timmyshin (talk) 22:02, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

• Comment - Google Books has "written and directed by Ha Yu", meaninging the Korean film director. No evidence of the actor in books. In ictu oculi (talk)
• (edit conflict) Oppose. Two reasons: First reason due to the fact that in most Asian cultures, the surname comes before the given name when the full name is listed, then when changing the name to the given name/surname combination recognized in most English-speaking cultures, both subjects have the chance of being referred to by the name stated in the disambiguation page (Ha Yu). Second reason is that I'm not seeing a primary topic between the two subjects to an extent to avoid having a disambiguation page per WP:TWODABS. Steel1943 (talk) 00:09, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

• I've already stated that the Korean director's surname is NOT Yu/Yoo, rather it's Kim. The Hong Kong actor's surname is Wong. Therefore the name order problem should not apply to either individual. I understand some books/sources do that but that's due to ignorance, and should not be the basis of a reputable encyclopaedia. At the very least, double hatnotes should suffice. Timmyshin (talk) 17:42, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

• That could be true, but per the article, "Ha Yu" is a name used on their working credits. In other words, I don't understand how this invalidates "Ha Yu" as a name that represents its subject, in respect to the director. Steel1943 (talk) 19:50, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

• First it's "Yoo Ha" or "Yu Ha", and not "Ha Yu". Where in the article do you see "Ha Yu" in the article aside from the hatnote? For example, a name like "Dwayne Johnson" can be written as "Johnson, Dwayne" with no problem, but who in the English-speaking world writes "The Rock" as "Rock, The"? Asian names are already confusing as a result of different romanization systems (e.g. Yoo vs. Yu), there is no reason to make the issue more confusing than necessary. I also don't understand why double-hatnotes cannot be done if it's already done on Yoo Ha's page (Yu Ha currently redirects to the page). Timmyshin (talk) 18:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

• Again, I'm not invalidating your claim. The confusion caused by how the surname/given name combination appear in English-speaking vs. most Asian cultures validates this name being a plausible name for the director, especially since it seems that he is credited with the "Ha Yu" name in his works, and thus enough for the disambiguation page to exist and no primary topic to be established. Steel1943 (talk) 22:42, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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