Talk:Ground billiards

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Additional sourcing availableEdit

See,M1 and page 239 therein, which describes this as ground billiards.

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Start googling "billard de terre".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Some comments from copy editingEdit

While copy editing this page I had some questions and observations:

  1. Centrally, it was not always clear to me whether this article wanted to be about a specific game or the broad class of games played with balls and sticks. The lead refers to "ground billiards" as a "family of lawn games" (should that be "lawn and table games"?) or even a "broader classification". Then in the History section it is a "proto-billiards game" with a "recognizable form". The difficulty in pinning down what is being talked about leads, for example, to the article stating both that ground billiards was "ancestral" to trucco and that trucco is a "form" of the game, while a hatnote tells us that ground billiards is not to be confused with trucco. The earlier part of the history section seem to be more about a specific game, while the latter part seems to based on ground billiards as a "broader classification" of games, ultimately leading to speculative Egyptian religious symbolism. It wouldn't surprise me if these issues are because sources themselves differ in what they refer to as "ground billiards", but it is confusing to the reader.
  2. In general, the history section might be easier to follow if it was put in chronological order.
  3. In the first sentence of the history section, it was unclear to me what "in the form described above" refers to. Is that the list of equipment in the lead section? Perhaps this paragraph got moved from its former location.

I hope that these comments are helpful! Cheers, Tdslk (talk) 01:08, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

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