Talk:Gordon Ramsay

Gordon is Scottish

This page lists Gordon as British, but he is Scottish born and identifies as Scottish in all his work. 2600:4040:7407:4400:E5F6:DC3B:EEF6:BD04 (talk) 03:50, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Are you the same person who made the prior two reports which inaccurately state that Ramsay is not British? Obviously he is British. Scottish people are also British people. Do you have any evidence of his self-identification as Scottish exclusive of being British? —DIYeditor (talk) 06:30, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

However, it should be noted that Scottish is not English and that he is listed under English, not Scottish, cuisine. Of course, Gordon is British, but I think there may be a misidentification of him as being under English cuisine (though he certainly started his career chiefly in England, not Scotland) 110.235.105.128 (talk) 14:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

There needs to be some consistency around this. Sure he's British, but he's also European too. Should he be listed as a "European British celebrity chef, restaurateur, television presenter, and writer." Probably not; next we'd take everybody up to "Earthling". Moreover, look at Rowan Atkinson's article. Look at Paul McCartney's. Look at Andrew Wiles's. They're all listed as English, not British. It's more specific; it's better information. Gordon Ramsey should thus also be listed as Scottish and not British.Gr33nshorts (talk) 19:28, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the policy is here, but at least in a situation where he's asked by Companies House for his nationality (where Scottish is an allowed option) he has chosen British as opposed to Scottish. That would for me be strong enough grounds to prefer using British unless there is somewhere that it is evidenced that he'd rather be known as Scottish. This sort of identity thing is a bit more complicated than it just being information, it's a form of self-identification that some people take very seriously. FF0000 (talk) 23:34, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@FF0000: Companies House goes by passport - it doesn't break people down by English, Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish for nationality. The only way to indicate association as Scotland would be listing nationality as British and country of residence as Scotland. However Gordon is most definitely Scottish and should be identified that way, the same way Welsh people are identified Welsh. The fact he moved away at age 9 doesn't make him not Scottish. (There is video of him where his Scottish accent comes out.) Further, he is identified as a "Scottish chef" by British newspapers including The Times (London) and Scottish newspapers as well. —Мандичка^YO 😜 00:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Chef Ramsey himself has scolded people who refer to him as British, on film. Scots are very proud of their Scottish heritage, as they should be just like all individuals. That’s why we’re called “individuals” and now “massiduals.” 75.100.203.216 (talk) 06:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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75.100.203.216 (talk) 06:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

References

Rangers Career

Why no mention if his famous Glasgow Rangers career he used to talk about? 2A00:23C7:4204:E01:1DD6:13BD:DA63:D516 (talk) 11:50, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@2A00:23C7:4204:E01:1DD6:13BD:DA63:D516: 'No mention' as in the section on his football career? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seasider53 (talk • contribs)

Reuters says it never actually happened. Valereee (talk) 12:25, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

I wouldn't call News of the World a reliable source. Seasider53 (talk) 12:37, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Did Gordon Ramsay write a large part of that article? That is the only explanation I can think of for going on and on about his playing football when he was twelve and have an ambition to be a pro. Half the boys in the UK (whether English or Scottish) have that ambition. Parts of it read like a kiss up article in some celebrity mag rather than a factual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.38.12.240 (talk) 22:23, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2024

Reference about Gordon’s son, his role is Royal Marines Commando. Not royal marines commander. That title does not exist. 2A00:23C8:5083:501:E441:2961:7871:CBE6 (talk) 12:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Done. Y Seasider53 (talk) 12:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Profile Photo

Can we talk about the "Sosig meme" photo in the infobox? Is that the best license-free photo there is? -Alexceltare2 (talk) 10:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)