Talk:Gayniggers from Outer Space

Facts

Ok, so as one might expect, this article is pretty sketchy. Not too surpising considering we're essentially dealing with a bunch of internet lore. I reworded the "cult status" section with proper grammar and a less informal tone. I also intially added a bunch of requests. This, however was before I found a link to at least one forum discussing the film at the bottom of the page. More would be nice, but this may be all we can ask for. Perhaps we should even consider removing some of the more questionable claims in the article. Specifically I've left the citation reqest for this initial IMDB reivew. Though it has now been removed, perhaps we could find it somewhere. Maybe it doesn't even bear mentioning. Who is this guy with the defunct anime site anyway? They guy who originally wrote the blurb? I think I've spent as much time as I care to on this semi-rediculous article. Please manually add more citation requests rather than reverting if you see them as necessary, there are other subtle rewordings that I think should be kept. Kevmitch 06:05, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:wITFR3W-nrQJ:postfarm.net/printthread.php%3Ft%3D5772+Biscuitbutt81+gay+niggers+from+outer+space&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=3

Great. So I know I said I was done with this page, but lo-and-behold an anonymous user has dug up the legendary review! Now we're still at the point of whether its wiki worthy enough to mention. If it is decided to leave it in, is it adequate to link to a google cache? What happened to the original post on this forum? How long will a google cache last after a page has dissapeared?

To what degree is the account of the rise of the film to cult status generally accepted among the internet community? I might suspect that an alternative telling would have the film rise to noteriety through GNAA. Or perhaps this IMDB legend (if it can be called that) did in fact preceed. We need to establish some sort of verifiable timeline. Kevmitch 07:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

So, is there any truth to the rumor that this film has any ties to the GNAA (Gay Nigger Association of America) Centrisian (talk) 09:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

• No real "ties". Someone was probably just having fun with Googling, found the IMDb entry and thought it'd be a funny name. --190.43.95.234 (talk) 03:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Can anyone explain why Reference #2 (referring to the sentence "It is also famous for being the namesake of the Gay Nigger Association of America troll group") is the non-hotlinked "^ Dean, Jodi (2010). Blog Theory: Feedback and Capture in the Circuits of Drive. Cambridge, UK: Polity Press. p. 6". What, exactly, has this to do with the fact that the movie is the namesake of the GNAA?

Torrent links

Do we really need the torrent links? Could this get the wiki in legal troubles? I'm guessing no since it's really got no organizations behind it and therefore no big sticks, but still... I suppose a link to BitTorrent wouldn't hurt. --~~--TIB (talk) 05:10, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

I wondered the same thing. One assumes this short film is copyrighted, and all, and we really shouldn't be violating it. We don't link to ROMs of video games which have articles. - Vague | Rant 06:51, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

It's both legal and a useful link which should be kept. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 07:17, 2004 Dec 28 (UTC)

Niggers?

I'm curious as to why the dreaded racial epithet was attached to "gay" in the name of the film. Does anybody have any idea? [[User:DO'Neil|DO'Иeil]] 03:19, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)

Probably because it sounds funny, Gayniggers from outer space sounds funnier than gays from outer space, i doubt the reasons are any deeper than that. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 07:50, 2004 Sep 21 (UTC)

It's obvious (to me anyway). Gayniggers From Outer Space sounds a lot like Gravediggers From Outer Space which was the original title of Edward D. Wood Jr.'s Plan 9 From Outer Space before his investors (a church group) vocally frowned upon "gravedigging". Spelling "Gayniggers" as one compound word instead of two words makes the title unmistakeable in its homage and its intent to portray an even more offensively-named group of aliens than the original.— FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 11:06, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

The original title of Plan 9 was Grave Robbers from Outer Space. Jim Michael (talk) 22:08, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree with the previous post. However, as a gay African-American, who has to deal constantly with racial discrimination in the gay community, creating the term Gayniggers, I believe, is an attempt to acknowlege the special subset of discrimation that we as people of African descent face specifically in the gay community. I question if it needs to be one word or not. I did hear that some the men who produced this were African-Dutch in origin, and in the Dutch language the term "Gaynigger" (Schwulnegger-in german- sorry i speak german but Dutch is similar) is possible Dkceaser 02:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)Dkceaser

Only the interstellar gayniggers. You're not from the planet Anus are you? I suppose they're not talking about you then. Comradeash (talk) 16:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I am a native Dutch speaker and the word Gaynigger does not exist in Dutch. The word nigger translates as nikker in Dutch and has the same meaning, but gay is simply not used (though everybody knows its meaning). Gay in Dutch translates as Homofiel, Homosexueel or simply homo.

• experiences what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity* Why am I even discussing this?? 81.246.93.2 (talk) 09:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Real?

Wtf this is a movie?

Yes it is - it can still be viewed online. Nietzsche 2 (talk) 13:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Dino De Laurentus

Dino De Laurentus was most likely a joke pseudonym to sound like the famous producer Dino De Laurentiis. IMDB has the real credits.

Payne's review

It should probably be made more clear that the scenes (or the so-called protagonist it mentions) from that review are not actually in the movie. I read through this wikipedia page then read teh IMDB review and was very dissapointed to not be able to hear that song when I watched the movie (:sarcasm:). Oh, and that movie is a waste of time. Even if there are one or two sources, I'm not sure I'd count it as notable. 75.177.176.6

Payne's original review

I copied and pasted it years ago I thought it was so funny... It should be part of the main page but I dont know how to get it there:

Date: 3 April 2003 Summary: juvenile and purile but well made

A really strange peice of cinema. This short film runs only about 20mins and is chock full of homophobic humor and juvenile jokes, but nevertheless its quite well made and directed. Seek it out just so you can say you've seen it.

Summary: The gay nigger movie to end all gay nigger movies . . .

When the first gay nigger walks onto the screen, you know you're in for a real treat. It is almost to impossible articulate, in words, the sheer, visionary brilliance of this film.

The music is amazing as well. "Gay Niggers Eat Pigs and Fly on Penises Made of Ham and Brown Ham, Because They're Gay Niggers" is an oscar-worthy song. This song plays during the scene when Gay Nigger Jim rapes a toilet and explodes, and unless you're souless, it will make you cry.

The stuff of legends . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.197.195 (talk) 03:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review not complete

You need to finish the peer review - follow the link and directions in the box at the top of this page. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed the peer review request as it was not finished in over a day and never completed. Feel free to relist it. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

GNAA website link

I see we can't add links to the GNAA site, even as references. I think the group's claim to have released a remastered copy of the film on Bittorrent is relevant. Anyone know if an exception could be made for that one link? I have it if anyone is able to do that, but obviously can't post it here. — FIRE!^{in a crowded theatre...} 10:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I referenced the website (with "www.gnaa.us") so there is a reference. Much of the movie's publicity is due to the GNAA, and as a result the information about the group should not be deleted. Just because the GNAA does not have a Wikipedia article does not make Wikipedia a microcosm in which the GNAA does not exist. Scootey (talk) 07:11, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that running the original VHS capture through some de-noising and contrast filters counts as 'remastering'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.56.113 (talk) 05:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources. A "trolling organization" writing something on its website is about as far from a reliable source as it's possible to get. -- SCZenz (talk) 15:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

In this circumstance, I think that the GNAA website would fall under Wikipedia:Verifiability#Questionable_sources. The GNAA's website is not being used to make claims about third parties...for instance, the page is not saying that the creators of the movie are in any way associated with the GNAA. It is being used only to provide information about the group's promotion of the film. Or a third-party website(s) with a GNAA posting that refers to the film (i.e. on Slashdot.org) could also suffice I suppose. Scootey (talk) 22:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

So we could write "GNAA claims to have," without violating WP:RS, and we would if GNAA's claims were notable and relevant to this movie. -- SCZenz (talk) 10:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I downloaded the movie from a GNAA affiliated site, believing it to be something else, as part of one of their "trolls", so I can vouch for the existence of a GNAA release. 213.21.74.119 (talk) 20:13, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

from vs. From, capitalization issue

The URL for this is a lowercase F, but in the introductory statement it is uppercase. To me, it looks like "From" capitalized in the title for the movie, but IMDB has it lowercase. I would like to reach consensus on what this should be, to which should we look to first for authority? Perhaps the producer site? DB (talk) 21:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

The rules of English capitalization are such that, in titles, you do not capitalize prepositions shorter than five letters long. "From" is a preposition and only four letters, so it is not capitalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.12.38 (talk) 21:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

The character "Mr. Schwul"'s surname should be glossed/wikilinked to Schwul. It is German (no idea about Swedish) for "gay".

64.160.39.217 (talk) 08:26, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Rcsprinter (warn) 19:48, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Status as a blaxploitation film

The first line for this article calls it a blaxploitation film. This was an uncited edit made in this edit. This doesn't seem to fit the bill of what makes a blaxploitation film a blaxploitation film. It is not American, it was not made in the 70s, and no reliable sources call it a blaxploitation film. Searching for the film title along with 'blaxploitation' yields few results, mostly individuals calling it a satire of the genre. The page for blaxploitation calls the film a 'blaxploitation-like', which while also uncited makes more sense given the year and country of release. But it is also placed in the List_of_blaxploitation_films with no citation. A consensus should be reached. Yeah, that's fine. (talk) 12:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Further, they send all the women of Earth to Uranus at the expense of only 3 negroes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.11.93.39 (talk) 17:37, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Gbartokai Dakinah -> Gbatokai Dakinah

According to IMDB and Instagram, there is no 'r' in the actor's name - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0197496/ and https://www.instagram.com/gbatokai/?hl=en His proper name is 'Gbatokai Dakinah'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phemar (talk • contribs) 09:10, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

This movie is not Dutch

Change "Dutch B movie" to "[Danish] B movie" or put a [sic] there or something. Unsurprisingly it seems some American confused Danish people with Dutch people again on account of it starting with the same letter and it not being their own country. 2A02:A420:6D:25BC:858C:942C:8846:F613 (talk) 16:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Brother BE BOLD and fix the change YOURSELF thank you very much Weepwaapdibbelydoopdaap (talk) 09:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

The page is semi-protected. Anyways, I just changed it. Prinsgezinde (talk) 17:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

"1992 Outer Space" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect 1992 Outer Space and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 4 § 1992 Outer Space until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 05:51, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2023

Please change the invalid reference link url: http://www.elitisti.net/database.php?id=4&page=1 to https://www.elitisti.fi/artikkeli/2003/07/master-fatman-ja-homoneekerit-ulkoavaruudesta Jetro Suni (talk) 18:14, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done voorts (talk/contributions) 16:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2023

Please replace “parody” with “satire”. Parody leads to thinking about comedy and jokes, while satire is social criticism, which this film is. Xiks (talk) 09:26, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)