Talk:Future (Red Velvet song)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Kyle Peake in topic GA Review
Former good articleFuture (Red Velvet song) was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
March 15, 2021Good article nomineeListed

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Future (Red Velvet song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply


Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

I will review this article soon; it's not overly large so the OR worry probably won't pop up really here. --K. Peake 09:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead edit

  Done
  • Infobox looks good!   Done
  • Pipe soundtrack to Start-Up (South Korean TV series) #Original soundtrack   Done
  • "It was released as a digital single" → "The song was released as a digital single" with the pipe   Done
  • Remove the instrumental mention from the lead, as that is not notable   Done
  • To expand the short lead, you should add the producers and writers; do this by writing them out in the body too though   Done
  • Swap the commercial performance sentences because South Korea should come first due to it being the group's native country   Done
  • "charted at 21 on the" → "charted at number 21 on the"   Done

Background and composition edit

  Done
  • Start this section by mentioning the writers and producers per the credits source(s); the producers should be moved from the second para to this one since there's background info next to them anyway and writers will need to be moved too to avoid separation   Done
  • You should add a comma after what's currently of the Vlending sentence and mention "revealing "Future" would be released at 6pm on October 17, 2020.", per the source   Done
  • "released on October 17, 2020, as a digital single" → "released on the planned date as a digital single" with the target   Done
  • Audio sample looks good!   Done
  • ""Future" was described" → "Musically, "Future" was described"   Done
  • Wikilink tempo   Done
  • Mention that the song includes guitar per the credits   Done

Commercial performance edit

  Done
  • Retitle to Promotion and reception, mentioning the music video release date at the start using the YT link as a ref because it is verified   Done
  • "for the period" → "during the period dated"   Done
  • "debuted at number 85 in" → "further reached number 85 on"   Done
  • "in the component BGM chart, while peaking at 45." → "on the component BGM chart, while going on to peak at number 45."   Done
  • Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine)   Done

Track listing edit

  Done
  • Good   Done

Credits and personnel edit

  Done

Charts edit

  Done
  • Sub-section is not needed when all the positions are weekly   Done

Release history edit

  Done
  • Format → Format(s)   Done
  • Label → Label(s)   Done

References edit

  Done
  • Copyvio score looks to be no problem at 1.0%!!!   Done
  • Top job with the archiving here!   Done
  • Ref 1 is missing the work/publisher parameter   Done
  • Cite Melon as publisher instead for refs 2 and 14, plus fix WP:OVERLINK for the latter   Done
  • Pipe Sports Chosun to The Chosun Ilbo on ref 7   Done
  • Cite Gaon Music Chart as publisher instead for refs 8, 9, 10 and 11   Done
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 13   Done

Final comments and verdict edit

  •   On hold until all of the issues are fixed, but this article is quite short so it shouldn't take long! --K. Peake 15:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: All comments on the review regarding the article have all been resolved. Thank you so much for continuously reviewing the articles I nominate! I do always appreciate the effort you're giving in making these reviews! Hope to work with you soon once again! :) --LipaCityPH 07:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LipaCityPH: Mostly a good job and your welcome, but the only issues are that you not only placed the writers and producers in the wrong area but also wrote the latter out twice in the body, you did not keep the revealing section separate from the actual release as I instructed, you did not mention the guitar (unless there's a reason why) and you forgot to pipe Billboard. --K. Peake 08:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: I forgot the guitar part. I'm sorry my mistake. I'll try to fix other issues as well. --LipaCityPH 08:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: I managed to fix other issues. However I'm unsure whether they were correct. I'm sorry. --LipaCityPH 08:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LipaCityPH: The only mistakes that still remain are that you have not fixed the repetition of the writing credits, plus the production info should be moved to being next to them alongside the background from previous productions, also the sentence should end with "revealing "Future" would be released at 6pm on October 17, 2020." then add one afterwards about it being released as a digital single on the planned date as I previously instructed. --K. Peake 11:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: I hope I managed to fix the mistakes by now. I'm sorry if I keep our conversations long for this short article. If I still have mistakes, please bear with me. I'll be doing my best to improve my skills towars editing. I'm really sorry. --LipaCityPH 11:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LipaCityPH: You have still made the mistakes with the production credits, but I have fixed that for you since it's one thing and the other changes were implemented correctly.  Pass now and it is fine to have long conversations as long as they are productive! --K. Peake 12:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Just one minor thing – source #3 (link) does not confirm that Yesy produced the song like its stated in the sentence "Future was produced by Taibian, Bark, and Yesy, who had previously produced the soundtracks for television series such as Itaewon Class, Stranger Season 2, Extraordinary You, and Hell Is Other People", the source says that only Taibian and Bark produced it. Snowflake91 (talk) 12:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Snowflake91 Thank you for pointing that out, must have missed it and @LipaCityPH:, either add a ref that backs up Yesy or remove that producer altogether. --K. Peake 12:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: I've separated Yesy from the two producers who were mentioned on the reference. I just don't know whether that was correct. Thank you for your time as always. :) --LipaCityPH 11:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply