Talk:Dead Space

Reception

Anyone else think it's kinda weird that there's a separate section for the critical reception of Isaac as a character in particular while the series over-all lacks a "Reception" section with a run-down of each game's reception with critics and fans? That seems like a fairly standard section to include in an article about a movie/album/Game/Series, etc. It would be fairly easy to implement, too. As simple as grabbing various reviews and retrospectives from legitimate sources and Metacritic. It's actually kinda strange this doesn't have one. I don't frequent this website enough to make me confident about doing it myself, but someone else might be more well-versed. 2601:87:4080:372:84D7:679C:1DA0:C7F6 (talk) 22:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Dead Space (series)

The Dead Space (series) page is missing the iPhone version of the game. It features a brand new storyline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.167.64 (talk) 23:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

A page for Issac.

Does anyone else think this guy is moving toward being worthy of his own page? He is in three games (including ignition) and two of them are staring roles, and even in a comic as a small cameo in Extraction's comic. I think personally his suit is quite recognizable, I mean the three lights on his helmet are pretty well known I think in the gaming community, especially now that both main series games (which he stars in) are doing great reception wise.

Also, to back up my point, he has a cameo in Dante's Inferno, Skate 3, and Dragon Age II.76.116.228.175 (talk) 01:16, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Just so you all know: Isaac Clarke (note: it's currently a stub). —017Bluefield (talk) 22:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Meaning of the word sequel

It says Dead Space: Downfall is a sequel to Dead Space: Extraction. But Downfall was published in 2008 and Extraction in 2009. Maybe it is set later, but it won't make it a sequel, because Extraction didn't even exist. 80.98.146.68 (talk) 14:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Merging Isaac

Isaac currently has two references; this is not enough to establish significant notability. The article on Isaac does nothing but repeat plot information. However, I can reasonably see people linking or going to it, so it would probably best serve merged into this page and as a redirect. – Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 00:41, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Merge I say, unless some more significant sources can come to light. Until recently the majority of the sources were to fucking Wikia. Considering he didn't really have any characterisation until Dead Space 2 (and none since?) I can't imagine there're enough sources out there to support the article. Яehevkor ✉ 01:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry, do you know how hard it is to work on this? You are right, there are not that much articles for notability but I try my best too. I'm a personal fan of the series and I have tried to keep this page secure with good sources and right information but most times its vandalized and things are taken away. And yes, some of the references were from Wikia because they are notable themselves. I am the the original creator of this page and I am stressing that this article does not get merged because it's useless than! And Isaac Clarke has gotten characterization since always in the original comics which some would know if your an actual fan of the series and subject. I will try to gain more articles in the time being and I am against merging the article. User talk:NackFinch 11:15, 29 January 2012.

Being a wiki, no Wikia can be a reliable source; anyone could come and edit it, sorry. You could always make a page in your userspace and build it up until it's ready (E.g. User:NackFinch/Isaac Clarke). Just remember plot information on it's own is not enough, and notability is derived from reliable sources like IGN making significant comments about a subject. – Harry Blue5 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

There's really nothing to discuss there. Isaac Clarke is failing all Wikipedia standards since beginning about half year ago, despite several months of warnings by me and the others. And note that my notability tags were simply deleted -repeatedly- by author of this article vandalizing his own article(!!). As were my attempts to salvage the article like that - also vandalized by NackFinch quickly afterwards (evidently obsessed with pushing Wikia as a "source" and such). I myself redirected it already more than once, only to see some silly people revert me for no reason every time. But now when I've got the attention of sensible people: see you space cowboy. --194.145.185.229 (talk) 16:14, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Support. Or just delete it, it doesn't add any valuable information. --Soetermans. T / C 20:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Consensus about it, yet? No notability estabilished still, so I'll redirect again now. --194.145.185.229 (talk) 17:02, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Dead Space 3 Page

Shouldn't we make a Dead Space 3 article now that Dead Space 3 had been announced with trailers at E3? Lacon432 (talk) 15:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Dead Space Severed DLC

Shouldn't there be a page/section on the DLC for Dead Space 2? It's a sequel to Extraction, and continues the storyline. - TidusTehSacrificer357 (talk) 22:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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Which logo is better for the article? thumb|Black background thumb|White backround — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fan4 metal (talk • contribs)

• Please note that non-free images cannot be used on talk pages, so I've had to comment these images out. Further, the white background image which is over at Commons is clearly a copyright problem - there is no way the embellishments on the text keep it in the public domain. The outside/glow around the letters make the black image otherwise better. --Masem (t) 20:16, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

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Requested move 23 April 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Mainly a WP:SMALLDETAILS debate. Longstanding practice on DIFFCAPS (Ice c/Cube, Iron m/Maiden especially) was cited to establish that sentence case vs. title case is generally enough to distinguish the titles of two articles. There is no reason presented by the opposition against this other than personal preference. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

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Dead Space (franchise) → Dead Space – The franchise is the clear primary topic for "Dead Space" in caps, with it and its games getting far more views than Dead Space (film). Link to pageviews. (Dead Space 2 gets approx. 425 page views daily, Dead Space 3 about 500). It is also likely that many of the views for the 1991 film are actually looking for the animated video game films such as Dead Space: Downfall making it even less of a prominent target for pageviews than the franchise. Either way it is the predominant thing people are searching for. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:49, 23 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 20:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose As the scientific terms (the physiology and mechanical versions) have long standing precedence for the term, in the same manner that the Half-Life series is not primary due to the scientific terms having more precedence there. --Masem (t) 14:00, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

  @Masem: Per WP:DIFFCAPS (established Wikipedia policy) the scientific terms would be called Dead space which is why I clarified in the nom that it was for the upper-case version only. Dead space would still be disambiguated. In the case of Half-life that is also frankly the same, but I suppose being a compound word it would be more easy to confuse. With Dead Space it is impossible to confuse the lower-case and proper noun versions. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

• support this is also consistent with the cases of Ice Cube vs Ice Cube as well as Iron maiden vs Iron Maiden, both of which are mentioned at WP:DIFFCAPS. It also should be noted that a request to move Test Drive (series) to Test Drive succeeded for the same reason.--65.92.163.109 (talk) 20:27, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
• Support. I agree with Masem that scientific terms have long standing precedence when it comes to deciding article titles. Except in this case, none of the related scientific terms that contains "dead space" appear to be taking precedence over the other as the primary topic for dead space on Wikipedia, unlike half-life. In other words, each page about a specific scientific term still needs another word to disambiguate and are not typically known as just "dead space". As for the pageview counts, Zxcvbnm has already provided the evidence. Haleth (talk) 04:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. I believe the details are too small for WP:SMALLDETAILS to apply here; the fact that the IP typed Ice Cube vs Ice Cube, when I believe they meant to type Ice cube vs Ice Cube, demonstrates why. BilledMammal (talk) 07:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

  That extremely meta argument aside, WP:SMALLDETAILS is Wikipedia policy, what you personally think notwithstanding. Different capitalization of the 2nd word in a 2 word title is a clear example given. Just like saying you believe a page is notable, despite its failure of WP:GNG will result in it being deleted, saying you don't think it should apply doesn't make it any less of a policy. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

  I agree that my mistyping of Ice cube is not a valid reason to overrule existing policy and I would argue that this page should be moved to match the existing policy. Also, if there someone that has an issue with the policy they should be trying to get it changed instead of trying to make this page a exception.--65.92.163.109 (talk) 01:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

  WP:SMALLDETAILS doesn't say that every small detail is enough to disambiguate an article; it says small details are usually sufficient to distinguish topics. It is valid to argue that the details are too small to distinguish the topics. BilledMammal (talk) 00:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

  Obviously it doesn’t but one of the main examples at WP:SMALLDETAILS, Ice Cube vs Ice cube, appears to be directly analogous to what would be Dead Space vs Dead space if this move successful. Based on that I don’t see the argument that the policy in question doesn’t apply to this page as valid. I would also like to note that my IP recently changed and that I am the same person that posted from 65.92.163.109 address.--65.92.163.128 (talk) 01:56, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

• Support with dab hatnote. The pageviews argument is compelling enough. As to DIFFCAPS, I read that policy with a degree of subjectivity, as I do with many of our policies which use vague wording such as usually sufficient and would note that the policy is only worth what consensus we can find here. While I personally feel that the difference is probably borderline too small for somebody lazy like myself who may not always reach for the shift key, I don't see a compelling argument that the scientific term (and much less the movie) are topics which are on more readers' minds than the franchise, and I also feel that anybody searching for those specific items will be dedicated enough to click the hatnote and find what they are looking for. ASUKITE 18:58, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

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