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B-Class review
editRequested. —ATS (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you, Aboutmovies. —ATS (talk) 01:46, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Pianist/keyboardist
editBradley played electronic keyboards housed in an upright for her AGT semifinals appearance, then a full grand afterward. In her/Sweeplings' performance videos, it's always electronic. Therefore leaning "keyboardist". —ATS (talk) 06:08, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Full name
editAs of this date, there is no free public source for her full name at birth; therefore, I've used redundant sourcing (inline, note and invisible comment) to satisfy WHYCITE and SYNTH. Non-news sources include InterCreditReport (publisher of credit data that must be correct or exposes the site to potential legal action); Bradley's verified Twitter and her husband's unverified Instagram (since 2011). ATS (talk) 22:06, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: David Fuchs (talk · contribs) 15:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Will have a review up after this weekend. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Overall the article is in decent shape, but there's a few issues that preclude GA Status at present:
- Prose:
The lead doesn't really give a great structured overview of the subject. It's kind of strange to me local singing competitions and self-published solo projects come before her stint on America's Got Talent, which alongside her band are what demonstrate her notability.Eric and Cami Bradley were married three months later,—three months later from what?I'm not really sold on the use of the 'notes' section. These seem like if they're trivial enough to go down here, they're trivial enough to cut.- Linking to the above, the tone of the article feels a little too informal for me. You really shouldn't be using contractions outside of quotes, for example, and when the details start devolving into "fun anecdotes about production"-type stuff it's probably moving away from essential content for the subject matter.
There's out of date information in this article—did the 2018 album come out?
- All of this should be addressed. Still working on additional concerns. ATS (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- References:
There are a few references that feel like they're skating towards original research—for example, using credit reports for her full name, using her personal websites for details (if this content is so important, you should be able to find it in secondary sources.)
- From the invisible comments:
<!-- full name verified by InstantCheckmate, WhitePages.com, copyright.gov, and @thebradlees (Instagram since 2011; posted May 26, 2018), et al.; see WP:WHYCITE -->
In addition, I would assert that credit report data is official government data that could theoretically result in a lost business license if knowingly false. ATS (talk) 00:19, 2 August 2019 (UTC)- If you can verify it to an official copyright notice, that's much better. Whitepages aren't really reliable, and neither are credit reports, which are famously error-prone (you're doing the OR on whether you even have the right person.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 14:27, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- @David Fuchs: Done. ATS (talk) 15:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will take another look at the article this evening. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 19:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- @David Fuchs: Done. ATS (talk) 15:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- If you can verify it to an official copyright notice, that's much better. Whitepages aren't really reliable, and neither are credit reports, which are famously error-prone (you're doing the OR on whether you even have the right person.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 14:27, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- From the invisible comments:
What makes the following sources reliable? EnStars, MasterClassLady.com, Advance Local Media
- Re MasterClassLady, from Talk:Forte (vocal group)/GA1: "Granted, this is my opinion, but Rosanne Simunovic has excellent credentials wrt knowing and reviewing music. Since this is a review—and automatically subjective—credibility, not reliability, is the issue. IMO." As such, I assert that this satisfies WP:SPS.
I'll get on the others presently. ATS (talk) 03:38, 1 August 2019 (UTC)- EnStars replaced (if Villages-News is questionable, I can use AllMusic). Advance Local Media is legit, Matt Wake having conducted the interviews and done his own legwork. ATS (talk) 00:19, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Re MasterClassLady, from Talk:Forte (vocal group)/GA1: "Granted, this is my opinion, but Rosanne Simunovic has excellent credentials wrt knowing and reviewing music. Since this is a review—and automatically subjective—credibility, not reliability, is the issue. IMO." As such, I assert that this satisfies WP:SPS.
- Images/Media:
I'm not sure File:Believe – Cami Bradley AGT.ogg really meets WP:NFCC criteria. It's mostly being used as decoration in its current location, and its fair use rationale is pretty weak. If it's going to be kept it should be moved down to the section that discusses it and beefed up rationale.- Other images appropriately licensed.
- Addressed. ATS (talk) 17:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
--Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 21:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Status query
editDer Wohltemperierte Fuchs, ATS, where does this stand? It looks like ATS made quite a few edits on June 9 to address at least some of the issues raised above, but never mentioned it here. Might they have addressed them all, making this ready for listing? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:54, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I'm still working on it. I'll fast-track it, thanks. ATS (talk) 17:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
- @ATS: Any update? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 11:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- @David Fuchs: real life has been a bit wonky of late. I will get back on this, I promise. ATS (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hey ATS, this needs movement this week or I'm going to fail the nomination. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:34, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- Not aiming this at anyone in particular, but it is disconcerting somewhat to wait months for a nom to come up and a medical episode delays me for mere weeks. Nevertheless, I'll front-burner this. ATS (talk) 01:01, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hey ATS, this needs movement this week or I'm going to fail the nomination. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 15:34, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- @David Fuchs: can you please advise specifically what still needs addressing? Thanks. ATS (talk) 15:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- @David Fuchs: real life has been a bit wonky of late. I will get back on this, I promise. ATS (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- @ATS: Any update? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 11:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)