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News report suggests errorEdit

This news report suggests that our phrase "similar to a Grand Jury hearing in civilian court," was inaccurate. Our article on Article 32 hearings seems to get it right: it's similar to a preliminary hearing, not similar to a grand jury. But I am not confident in this area, so rather than possibly make things worse, I've just removed the claim for now. Hopefully someone who knows about the military system can improve it further from this point.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 17:15, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Treatment in captivityEdit

Those knowledgeable about Sgt. Bergdahl may be interested in this or this. Sca (talk) 12:41, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Is "traitor" NPOV?Edit

The opening line of the article states that "Robert Bowdrie "Bowe" Bergdahl (born March 28, 1986) is a United States Army traitor". I'm not here to defend him, but as he is currently awaiting court martial, and to the best of my understanding, the charges against him don't include treason, is it NPOV/accurate to describe him as a "traitor"? I'm not going to change it without other input. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BaikinMan (talkcontribs) 13:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

That was some vandalism. It was removed. It was followed by another piece of vandalism adding "hero" to the lead, that was also removed. So the universe is all at balance again. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:49, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Someone else has put 'hero soldier' which is equally NPOV. The person who deleted it found the need to weasel word their edit with 'minor word change' as the description. I'm finding it difficult to maintain good faith, but most of these people are probably coming off Bing. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 07:08, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Serial Podcast - Season two is about Bowe BergdahlEdit

Season two of the Serial Podcast is about Bowe Bergdahl. The first episode was released today. Shouldn't this be a major heading for the article?

https://serialpodcast.org

03:29, 11 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.254.138.123 (talk)

There's a bit of an edit-war going on about whether the Serial coverage should be in the top paragraph. My opinion is that it should not—it would be more appropriate in a "news coverage" section, or in "see also". But given the controversy on this, I thought it would be better for me to express my opinion here instead of making another revert... — Narsil (talk) 20:01, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Agree. Per WP:LEAD the most important aspects of the subject are summarized at the top. The podcast is not a particularly important part of Bergdahls story. – S. Rich (talk) 05:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Prisoner of War MedalEdit

Is there any way to know whether SGT Bergdahl has been awarded this? Deltopia (talk) 19:32, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

@Deltopia: This Washington Post article from today remarks that he was not wearing it during arraignment today at Fort Bragg, and that this is an indication that the Army has reserved judgment in awarding it to him. I don't usually put much weight in websites like this one, which claims he has been awarded the medal, but the website is privately maintained and although it claims, "All recipients in the database are verified by source material such as official award citations, narratives and/or synopses from individuals or records from the National Archives," I don't see it pointing to any such sources here. So it looks like it has not been verifiably awarded to him. I, JethroBT drop me a line 23:46, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
@Deltopia: The other approach to take here is to do some good ol' letter writing and contact the National Archives directly. : ) I, JethroBT drop me a line 23:54, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
@I JethroBT: I guess I should have asked "Does anyone know" rather than "is there any way to know"; I did not think that the governing regulations allowed the Army any latitude in deciding whether to award it... so I looked it up. According to Army Regulation 600-8-22, Military Awards, ch 2.9 para h:
Any person convicted of misconduct or a criminal charge by a U.S. military tribunal, or who receives a less than honorable discharge based upon actions while a POW, or whose conduct was not in accord with the Code of Conduct, and whose actions are documented by U.S. military records is ineligible for the medal. The SECARMY is the authority for deciding eligibility in such cases.
According to the article, none of his actions while a POW are actually being questioned, just the circumstances that led to him being captured. So it's interesting that they would withhold the medal, or maybe it implies that they think some of his actions as a POW were questionable. AR 670-1 definitely indicates, though, that if they'd awarded it to him, he should be wearing it -- so that Washington Post photo definitely answers my question. Thanks! Deltopia (talk) 01:02, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

TenseEdit

Bergdahl is no longer a United States Army soldier. He was a United States Army soldier. Perhaps someone with the necessary privileges and a concern for topical accuracy will make the necessary editorial revison. 2A02:C7F:A025:2500:398A:1563:F7A0:3BCD (talk) 09:56, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

If you read the article, you'll note that Bergdahl is not discharged yet. Although the judge sentenced Bergdahl to a dishonorable discharge on 3 November 2017, all punitive discharge sentences are stayed pending automatic appeal. Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 13:04, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

The search for Bergdahl, and claims that Bergdahl search killed comrades; Bergdahl's claim he attempted to report lapses from orderEdit

When Bergdahl was exchanged many publications reported 6 GIs died searching for him.

Shortly after, some RS, including Reuters and the NYTimes, debunked those reports.

Nevertheless some partisan publications continued to report the search for him was responsible for the deaths of other GIs.

In 2016 the Serial podcast reported on the official inquiries into those six men's deaths. The official inquiries confirmed Reuters earlier reporting -- all six men died when engaged on missions that had nothing to do with searching for Bergdahl.

Even so, some partisan publications continued to report the search for him was responsible for the deaths of other GIs.

I updated the article with the new information, removing some out of date info. Geo Swan (talk) 16:57, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Currently, a paragraph of this section starts: "Due to resources being diverted to find Bergdahl, the closing of Combat Outpost Keating was delayed, which may have led to eight American soldiers being killed on October 3, 2009,<ref name=Cnn2014-06-01B/> after 300 Taliban insurgents overran the base."
The CNN article doesn't say eight GIs were killed on 2009-10-03. It says a total of 8 GIs were killed at the base, without saying when they were killed. How many died in the months or years prior to Bergdahl's capture? Geo Swan (talk) 03:33, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Geo Swan, CNN does not specify that eight were killed on October 3, 2009, when Taliban insurgents overran Combat Outpost Keating, but The New York Times does say so. I've rearranged these references to clarify which source says what. KalHolmann (talk) 05:03, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Status?Edit

It's 2018. What's the status of Bergdahl's sentencing now? And is he in custody? Sca (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

He's not in custody, nor will he be in custody. The discharge is stayed pending automatic appeal, so until that appellate process completes itself he won't be discharged. Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 22:09, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Mentally illEdit

This man was mentally ill and released from Coast Guard duty after 26 days. He was totally unfit for military service. The US Army gave him a waver for his mental illness and accepted him into the Army. While in the Army overseas his mental illness caused him to leave his post. HE actually was absent only one day. He was captured by the enemy and not allowed to return to his base. His trial was a farce to punish a mentally ill man who the Army wavered to let join. The Army is the one who is completely at fault here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.17.223.192 (talk) 03:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Any relevant sources to back up your claims (BTW, from the article: "On July 27, 2015, memorandum from the sanity board stated "Though Sgt. Bergdahl did have a severe mental disease or defect at the time of the alleged criminal conduct, he was able to appreciate the nature and quality and wrongfulness of this conduct."")? Without WP:RS, this just sounds like a lot of hoopla (also, what's the point of this? Are you suggesting an article change?) --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 12:51, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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