Talk:Sōryū-class submarine

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Latest comment: 5 years ago by 2600:8805:1500:2021:7CF1:E7E4:D62E:EDE8 in topic crush depth

Unreasonable AIP range

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The page says "AIP endurance (est.): 6100 nautical miles (11297.2 km; 7060.75 miles) at 6.5 knots (12 km/h; 7.48 mp/h)[2]" But that's WAY beyond anything any other AIP sub can do, and the citation gated and cannot be read by some people (including me). I don't believe this, and given the vandalism mentioned below ... Kitplane01 (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2014 (UTC)Reply


Hi there, I just added the same dubious figure of 11,300km, and now I've just read your comments and agree the figure is way beyond normal AIP ranges. I got my figure from Global Security, but can anyone 'source the source'? I'd be happy to remove my own edit....

A reliable figure for the Soryu's various ranges under different operational conditions would greatly improve the page. Scsor (talk) 09:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

That isn't necessarily true. You guy's cant assume anything based solely upon what other subs are capable of. For one thing, the Soryu is more than twice the tonnage/displacement of most smaller diesel-electric subs using AIP technologies. This is relevant. It is in fact possible that the increase in tonnage allows for a much larger fuel and oxidizer load, which is the basis for most AIP technologies. Or alternatively, the 6100 NM figure is related to the usage of the snorkel. There's several ways this would function. A.) It travels entirely by snorkel for 6100 nm, or B.) It uses AIP for whatever it's maximum endurance is by AIP alone, and then rises to higher depth, to raise the snorkel and replenish it's oxygen and thus "recharge" it's AIP system with fresh oxidizer. This is of course conjecture, but I believe I have made an excellent case against the removal of the figure for the time being. After all, if you don't have any better information, why remove it entirely? i support the edit that leaves that figure on the page for the time being. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.75.63.212 (talk) 14:58, 29 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

crush depth

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I'm not very familiar with the imperial measurements, but "Test depth: 900’ inch crush" appears to be off by an order of magnitude. Such subs usually dive to 200-300 metres. Lastdingo (talk) 00:17, 18 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yep, in fact, the imperial Japanese navy has not published max dive depth. It's just a mischief. Once, I removed it. However, it has been repeatedly reverted by Korean.[1][2].--BlueSkyWhiteSun (talk) 17:40, 15 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

It would be unusual, yes. But not impossible. Several classes of Russian submarines have come close to that figure. The Alfa class had a test depth of 700 to 750 m. The Mike Class had a test depth of 1,250 m. So while it's unlikely that a diesel-electric submarine would be designed in such a manner, when most nuclear submarines are only designed for 400 to 600 m test, tops; it's certainly not impossible. Thus the question becomes...where is the source for this figure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.75.63.212 (talk) 15:02, 29 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

The source/citation [1] for the "depth" of the sub references an article talking about the type 89 torpedo, not the submarine itself. Its currently listed as 900m, which is obviously incorrect. As Lastdingo put it probably an order of magnitude off the mark, and should be removed. Removal would make it consistent with the Oyashio class page, which is typical of newer submarines that do not have publicly published figures. 2600:8805:1500:2021:7CF1:E7E4:D62E:EDE8 (talk) 08:43, 17 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "「中国の恐怖」だ! 中国が恐れる日本の潜水艦、その実力は=中国報道-サーチナ".

Exports

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Article states possible replacement for the RAN Collins class,this is not going to happen, Soryu Class will be too old by then, the the follow on class for the Soryu may be of interest to the RAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.31.46 (talk) 10:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

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