First player to be sent off

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who was the first player to be sent off in a premier league game

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Norwich City

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Norwich had qualified, like many others I presume, for Europe twice before (Milk/League Cup winners '85. 4th plce finish in '88-'89 (I think-wil check) but because of the then ban on English clubs were not able to compete. LewisR (talk) 01:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. EdJohnston (talk) 18:16, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply


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– All seasons subsequent to the 2006–07 FA Premier League are titled with the shorter name along the lines of 2007–08 Premier League, as is the main article on the subject, Premier League. I can't see any particular justification for the switch in naming convention between the 2006–07 and 2007–08 seasons. It's true that the term "FA" was included in the title more in the early days of the competition, but there is no clear point at which that stopped being the case, and in fact the "official" title, including sponsor name, as mentioned in the article itself, stopped using the FA part in 2001, having varied quite consderably over those years, from FA Premier League through FA Carling Premiership, Barclaycard Premiership, Barclays Premiership and now Barclays Premier League. For consistency, one of the criteria of WP:AT, I suggest we rename all of them to omit the FA moniker. Thanks. --Relisted. EdJohnston (talk) 21:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)  —  Amakuru (talk) 16:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. --BDD (talk) 19:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Support per nom and WP:COMMONNAME/WP:ON. Expanding on one of the nom's points, this satisfies the consistency criterion of WP:CRITERIA both with later seasons as well as the parent article Premier League. --BDD (talk) 19:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Support - while "FA Premier League" was the Official name during that perioud, we should rather use the most common name when deciding article titles and I believe that the tournament was commonly known as the "Premier League" rather than the "FA Premier League" between 1992 and 2007. I would say that the new proposed titles are better when it comes to all of the five naming criteria, especially consistency. Mentoz (talk) 13:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
    • I'm pretty sure there is a convention that says we should name articles in accordance with historical accuracy, i.e. articles about places/events/people at a certain time should use the name that the place/event/person was using at the time. Surely this applies here? – PeeJay 14:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
      • I believe there's such a policy for geography, but this is really a separate issue. Surely people called the "FA Premier League" just the "Premier League," and indeed you'll find reference to these older seasons as "Premier League" in reliable sources. See, for example, Martin Tyler's column. If the league were known by a completely different name in this period—say, "Championship League"—then I might agree that these titles would sound anachronistic, like saying "Istanbul was the wealthiest European city in the Middle Ages." But just omitting an official appellation likely to be dropped in common usage? This is well within policy. --BDD (talk) 17:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
        • If you want to get really pedantic, why aren't we suggesting that the articles be moved to use the name "Premiership"? That's been a common name for the (FA) Premier League for about as long as it's existed. – PeeJay 18:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose all - titles are correct for the time periods referred to, I don't see why they should be amended to reflect the name in use now. If in a couple of years' time the Premier League changed its name to the Super Elite League, would we go back and re-name all articles right back to 1992 to use that name? That would be ridiculous..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose per Chris and PJ2K3, these should use the names associated with the period for which they document, as they only document that time period, and not the current name, same as other sports article where the names of thing they document has changed through time. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 01:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose Titles were correct at the time that the seasons happened. Number 57 23:43, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose all - titles are historically accurate. Keep them as they are, and create redirects (as appropriate) from the proposed names to aid navigation. GiantSnowman 20:42, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
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