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Rotary Lombardi Award vs Lombardi AwardEdit

@Rla2021:

A new editor is changing links[1] within articles of Lombardi Award recipients from pointing at Lombardi Award to the more formal Rotary Lombardi Award (which is a redirect). Per WP:COMMONNAME, that article appears to be correctly located at Lombardi Award. The purpose of these link changes is unclear. Revert or piping seems appropriate, thoughts? UW Dawgs (talk) 03:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Given that both of their first two edits (to the Lombardi Award page) were REVDEL'd, and there is no rationale given in the edit summaries of their changes, I'm inclined to agree. I don't see a good reason to go against COMMONNAME and use the formal name, especially when the article itself is located at Lombardi Award. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

This has flared up again over the last two days. From what I can gather, there are two organisations, The Rotary Club of Houston and The Lombardi Foundation. The Rotary Club have been giving out the award since 1970 (the current article) The Lombardi Foundation seems to be a new organisation (c.2017) that claimed ownership of the right to give the award. Legal stuff followed, and the Rotary Club appear to have won. The award hasn't been awarded since 2017 and is due to be awarded again in December 2021. The Foundation appear to be trying to turn the article so that it's about them instead of the rotary award.

At least that's my interpretation of it. I could be wrong on some details, but I think the gist of it is correct. Can someone with a more intimate knowledge of college football and Houston keep an eye on it please? Thanks. - X201 (talk) 19:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

GAREdit

West Virginia Mountaineers football, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 06:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Addition of team logos within conference membership tableEdit

@Jbg9981:

New editor is adding 10 to 20 60px-80px team logos to the conference articles, ex:

There has been one revert to date. While the logos are appropriate in articles about the sports teams of the university ("Arizona Wildcats"), the quantity here within these tables does seem excessive. The tables were already maxed on width, so now there is some extreme word wrapping, the table can be wider than the prose, and on mobile the issue is even more pronounced. Thoughts? UW Dawgs (talk) 02:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

The mix of whatever is free or convenient—ranging from logos and wordmarks—is inconsistent and tacky. Then there's the table width. The team color column seems trivial for the conference page too.—Bagumba (talk) 05:58, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Agreed. If logos were to be included at all, they shouldn't mix between primary marks and wordmarks. That being said, logos should not be included in the first place. No opinion on the colors column. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:36, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
New editor clearly read the above and has chosen to self-revert. UW Dawgs (talk) 21:57, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jadon WagnerEdit

The above AfD presents a debate as to whether feature coverage of a football player should be disregarded as WP:ROUTINE. If you have views on this question, one way or the other, feel free to comment there. Cbl62 (talk) 18:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

CfD: Brooklyn Bulldogs footballEdit

I have nominated Category:Brooklyn Bulldogs football and a subcat for renaming. Please see the discussion here. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 02:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Links to college football season disambiguation pagesEdit

A number of "[year] college football season" articles (e.g. 1972 college football season) were recently turned into disambiguation pages by UW Dawgs, distinguishing between different divisions. As a result, the links to disambiguation pages report is now dominated by these college football season disambiguation pages, with thousands of links altogether. These are not going to get fixed without a massive collaborative effort of some sorts... Lennart97 (talk) 08:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

I see that a discussion is already taking place about this issue at WT:WikiProject Disambiguation#College football dab. Lennart97 (talk) 12:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

TFD: college football standingsEdit

Three college football standings templates have been nominated for deletion. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 June 4#College Football Standings. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 05:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Feedback on bot cleanup of NFL Draft tablesEdit

There is a pending request for a one-time bot cleanup of 100+ articles like "List of Central Michigan Chippewas in the NFL Draft" at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Cleanup of chronological data in NFL Draft tables. Review and feedback on the proposed cleanup is welcome at that location. UW Dawgs (talk) 14:52, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Athletic program articles and Infobox FBS and FCS linksEdit

@Son of Kenway:

Editor appears to be attempting to address inconsistencies within Infobox formatting of all athletic program articles (Ex, "Miami Hurricanes"). It appears Division I-FBS athletic program articles are either being updated with addition of the " / FBS" where missing,[6] or reformatted from "Division I (FBS)" to "Division I / FBS".[7][8]


Here is the new Infobox style being implemented, where the layout change to "Division I / FBS" reads like hybrid of "A / B" which is clearly inaccurate.

FBS: Miami Hurricanes

  • division = [[NCAA Division I|Division I]] / [[NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision|FBS]]) with Infobox render like "Division I / FBS"[9]

FCS: Eastern Washington Eagles

  • division = [[Division I (NCAA)|Division I]] / [[Football Championship Subdivision|FCS]]) with Infobox render like "Division I / FCS"

No football: Gonzaga Bulldogs

  • division = [[NCAA Division I|Division I]] with Infobox render like "Division I"


Here is the existing style:

FBS: Miami Hurricanes

  • division = [[NCAA Division I|Division I]] ([[NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision|FBS]]) with render like "Division I (FBS)"

FCS: Eastern Washington Eagles

  • division = [[Division I (NCAA)|Division I]] ([[Football Championship Subdivision|FCS]]) with render like "Division I (FCS)"

No football: Gonzaga Bulldogs

  • division = [[NCAA Division I|Division I]] with render like "Division I"


Reverting the recent changes would make the layout more intuitive in my view. All three examples are Division I and operate under the associated NCAA Division I rules. That should be clearly communicated. The original format of "Division I (FBS)" seems more intuitive as (FBS) is a parenthetical explanation that shows the football aspect of the entire athletic program is FBS, FCS, or "no team."


Thoughts? UW Dawgs (talk) 05:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Parentheses seem more intuitive to me, as that communicates that "FBS" or "FCS" is contained within Division I and not some separate organization or entity. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:20, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Montana–Montana State football rivalryEdit

Some additional eyeballs on Montana–Montana State football rivalry would be appreciated. Enthusiastic new SPA editor is very intent on their versions of both spelling and facts. UW Dawgs (talk) 01:13, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

AfD: William & Mary decade articlesEdit

I have nominated William & Mary Tribe football, 1910–1919 and four other William & Mary decade articles for deletion after having created individual season articles for all the years in question. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William & Mary Tribe football, 1910–1919. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 19:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Similarly, Delaware football, 1889–1899 and Delaware football, 1900–1909 still exist if anyone wants a project to split them into 21 new 189X-190X articles. See WP:COPYWITHIN re attribution before doing so. UW Dawgs (talk) 20:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
SMU and Tulane also need some breaking up. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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