Sergio Skol

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Nomination of Minnesota–Penn State football rivalry for deletion

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Let'srun (talk) 20:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

June 2024

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Proposed deletion of 2024 Simpson Red Hawks football team

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Playoff records

Hi Sergio, hope all is well. Going to sleep now, but just wanted to run this by you. I saw that the playoff/postseason records, along with the Super Bowl, are no longer kept in the infobox. Honestly, nobody reverted what you did, so I've been editing ones that I see also. You might want to tackle Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce. Only because I see that they have references for everything. I can delete things with the best of them... but I can make a big mess also, lol. It's not fair to keep some records for some and not others. If you already thought about this earlier, please share it with me. I'll be here Sunday night. Regards, Bringingthewood (talk) 07:21, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Everything's great, I also hope you're having a nice time

Answering your question, yeah, it's unfair keep playoff/SB records just for some.

Not all needs to be displayed on the infoboxes, we could add a ==NFL records== section, where we could include all of them. Because adding every single record would mean write something like: "first player to receive 1,400+ yards and 17+ touchdowns with fewest receptions in NFL history", and I think nobody will ever care about a record like it.

Mahomes and Kelce now are two of the most popular players in the history, so many editors want to add every single thing about them, including admins. They forget we should keep neutral when editing, and that's why their pages include many irrelevant things.

I've always thought that playoff records are unfair enough to be on the infoboxes. Why? Because this is a sport team, e.g. Dick Butkus was a incredible MLB, but he never played in the postseason. He wasn't the guilty for the Bears bad football team. So we shouldn't add that type of records on boxes. (P.S. Please tag me when you reply) Sergio Skol (talk) 14:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sergio Skol. Good to hear that and I am, thanks. Not sure if you meant to ping you when responding. Your page should automatically turn your bell red upon messaging, I think. I don't know too much anyway. I hear all that you're saying, and I was going to ask you earlier if you got a consensus on this. I also figured that if someone saw what you did .. and didn't agree, like the Jerry Rice page, it would have been removed from the template by now. All my edits were reverted, I'm going to stop for the time being. Too hot to ruffle feathers at the moment, lol. We'll see where this takes us. It kind of reminds me of the 'official' sack deal with no consensus, but another editor, over the months, added about 100 pre-1982 sacks to pages. It's too late to change it now. I'm kind of giving up on pages being consistent. Well, enjoy your summer! Bringingthewood (talk) 21:18, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello again, Sergio. Saying this as a friend, it's good to get a consensus with the current subject. I've seen it in the past. I'm all for deleting things, but a consensus clears the air at times .. myself, I always hated having to ask permission to take a piss, you know what I mean? But with a template and all the editors out there, it's definitely the right thing to do. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@Sergio Skol: For what it's worth, I feel very mixed on the subject, but I was also going to revert your change to WP:NFLINFOBOXNOT when I saw it, before realizing someone else already had. While I don't feel strongly either way, I am generally in favour of less infobox clutter. Never the less, I do believe it should be discussed at WT:NFL before it to the player page format, with a mention of the discussion left at Template:Infobox NFL biography. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:24, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 2024 William Woods Owls football team

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