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Assyrian Scouting and Guiding

I have created Assyrian Scouting and Guiding, please have a look! --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 07:55, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Very interesting, thanks. Iraqi (talk) 08:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

If you see anything that needs fixing, or have suggestions, please feel free! --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 08:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I added the Australian branch. Iraqi (talk) 08:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Kharsag

If anyone can rescue this I'd be happy, otherwise I think I'll merge it with Christian O'Brien as per the AfD on another take on this subject, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kharsag Epics. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 20:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Lamassu

...is a bit of a mess. I began copyediting it but not actually sure of the scope of the definition. Anyone familiar is welcome to chip in. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

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Ancient Near East archaeological sites reorganization (Suggestion)

Please see this discussion here. Yazan (talk) 19:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

GAR Akkadian Empire

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George Malek-Yonan

Hello. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Malek-Yonan is currently in progress discussing George Malek-Yonan who is an Assyrian. As the topic relate to your wikiproject, you may be able to provide additional insight in the discussion. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 18:41, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

FAR

I have nominated Turkey for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 13:56, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Assyria will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in within Assyrian society. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Assyrian autonomy

When will be referendum about Assyrian autonomy in Iraq?--Kaiyr (talk) 17:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

The issue of the Nineveh Plains is at a dead-end politically right now along with other disputed areas in Iraq such as Kirkuk, etc. I'm thinking years ahead. Chaldean (talk) 17:40, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Categories

If anyone watching this is familiar with how the current Category:People of Assyrian descent and subcats thereof got their present wording please chime in at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_January_19#Category:Assyrian_Turkish_writers. Someone not using his real name (talk) 03:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Dohuk RM

Opinions would be appreciated at Talk:Dohuk#Requested move 2014. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 07:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

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Portrayal of Assyrians as "Kurdish Christians"

Dear editors of WikiProject Assyria,

I'd like to make you aware of careless editing on Wikipedia with regards to the Assyrian people, notably the article Kurdish Christians which seems prone to edits whereby a Kurdish identity is conferred upon Assyrians. I've done my best to rectify this, although I'd like to notify other editors with an interest in the subject since I'm personally not a regular editor here (I find the constant edit warring rather time consuming and simply irritating, and I just made some edits now because I noticed blatant factual errors and disregard of Wikipedia's core content policies with regards to Original Research and Verifiability). Should you find the article in a state of careless editing, feel free to edit it and perhaps add a comment in the talk page.

Also, the article Assyrians in Canada seems prone to edits whereby a wikilink to the article Kurdish Christians is included. This is out of place and along the lines of portraying Assyrians as Kurdish Christians. Again, I've edited this but would just like to place this notice here because I most likely won't be keeping an eye on it as I find it excessively time consuming.81.229.176.77 (talk) 20:02, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Need more eyes pls

pls see Talk:Mosul#Edit war over Chaldean -- Moxy (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Uncooperative edits by User:Philip Mexico in Assyrian articles

Hello, may I request additional opinions on the recent altercationms with Philip Mexico, most recently on Talk:Ila-kabkabu.

I would like to say "discussions" but thus far the editor has not seen fit to answer on the talk page. While his actions have a "behaviour" side that should be discussed elsewhere, it also has a "content" side.

It is unacceptable that he edits without regard to sources: he ignores that one that are cited, relegating them to minority status, and provides nothing for his view.

I actually don't care much if his views are proven right in light of scholarship if somebody provides the sources (if they exist) that he is unwilling or unable to provide. Str1977 ^(talk) 13:56, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Shamoun Hanna Haydo

Hi, we need help with the article Shamoun Hanna Haydo. It has been nominated for deletion. I am having trouble finding sources, but I described what I found here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shamoun Hanna Haydo. If you can help find sources, it would be appreciated. —Мандичка^YO 😜 11:25, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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An Assyrian language wiki

I have a new idea that perhaps the project may be interested in: An Aramaic Wiki, or a Wiki that uses some form of Assyrian language whether it be Syriac, Turoyo, Neo Aramaic, etc. I cannot help write sadly, as I cannot speak or understand any form of the Assyrian languages despite my interest in Assyria, but I would love for this to happen as I feel it would be something that could be interesting. We could start the Wiki by translating Assyrian related pages, and then move on to translate all types of articles so that it can be a legitimate wiki.Cirflow (talk) 06:17, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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Newly made article

What do all of you propose we do about the newly created Syriac Orthodox Christians (Middle East) article? Similarly to the Chaldean naming disputes, it appears to of been created to designate Syraics as a separate ethnic group. Therefore, I am unsure whether we should merge the page with the Assyrian people article, keep the article up and designate that they are a subgroup of Assyrians, or delete it entirely. I have made some edits which changed the page to distinguish the Syriacs as a sub group of Assyrians, but if we were to keep it up and designate it as an article on them as a subgroup we would need to fix all the links going to Assyrian people and redirect them to Syriac Orthodox Christians. Let's establis consenus on this issue.Cirflow (talk) 14:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC) Cirflow (talk) 14:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

The article is an independent subject, Syriac Orthodox Christians in the Middle East. There is no sense whatsoever to merge it into "Assyrians", which is a blanket term for Syriacs (who evidently are divided on the identity issue) regardless of denomination. This community has an ethnic or ethno-religious character, which is independent from "ideological" Assyrianism. The fact that you consider for its deletion is very alarming. There are countless monographs on this community, and the article has just been started.--Zoupan 16:06, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

You are blatantly claiming that Syriacs are a separate ethnic group, when consensus in prior cases has shown they are not, and at the least it should be considered controversial and indicate in the article that some identify as Assyrian and others as Syriac- as I have done. I am not saying we should delete it, I came here to discuss this with the Assyrian wiki editors, who can help establish consensus on this as issues like this have happened in the past. Personally, I like the Syriac orthodox page and think it has very good quality, but it is undeniable that it is controversial and needs to be made neutral, and i have made efforts to do so which you reverted.Cirflow (talk) 20:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

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garbled sentence

(Copied from Talk:Turoyo language#garbled sentence)

Turoyo is not mutually intelligible with Western Neo-Aramaic, having been separated for over a thousand years is considerable, but to a limited degree.

Intro section, 2nd paragraph. Maybe from cut-and-paste, but who can tell what it's supposed to mean?

(Cross-posted to the Talk pages of WikiProjects Syria and Languages.) --Thnidu (talk) 06:39, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

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List of Assyrian tribes vs. List of Assyrian settlements Discussion

Shlama All,

I have opened this discussion to begin the process of rebuilding these two pages. I think it would be best if the List of Assyrian settlements article includes all modern Assyrian settlements, whether abandoned or currently occupied. I think that the List of Assyrian tribes article should only include information about the tribes, and not detailed information about the towns and villages where they lived and currently live. Thoughts?--Assyriandude (talk) 04:22, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you on this. This approach is the most logical one.

Best regards Ashurpedia (talk) 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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Great, I have already added the list of settlements in Hakkari.

I cleaned up and added sources for the list of settlements in Syria along the Khabour.

One thing we should also look at and clean up is the absolute mess of Categories related to Assyrian communities, tribes, settlements, etc. Ideally there should be two Categories: 1) Assyrian Communities and 2) Tribes Assyriandude (talk) 22:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Cleaning up this Talk page

I think we ought to move the previous discussions into archives. Some sections are 10 years old.--Assyriandude (talk) 14:14, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Done. :) --334a (talk) 06:18, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Nameconflict

Hi all,

I’m an outsider of the Assyrian-Aramean nation, but although I am someone who is interested in their history, culture etc. I enjoy reading about it, but I consider a lot of pages on the English Wikipedia as ‘Assyrian nationalism’ and POV. Lots of articles going about Arameans or people who identify as Arameans are being changed to Assyrian.

This case got my attention so I wanted to do a research on it. While doing my research I found groups on Reddit and Facebook including 2000+ Assyrian nationalist calling up every Assyrian to edit the pages of Arameans into Assyrians and keep pushing the Assyrian cause.

I’m really concerned about the situation of Assyrians attacking the Aramean identity and deleting their history and culture. Entire pages about cities, people and churches are being changed in the Assyrian name.

This case that can be labeled as a real ‘problem’ is unfair to the Arameans who are struggling for their survival.

Therefore I want to see a solution for the ongoing Assyrian nationalism and POV on Wikipedia pages.

MixedButHumann (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

New article

Hi, feel free to help me out on this draft regarding the Assyrian Policy Institute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Assyrian_Policy_Institute

Away Inn (talk) 23:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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