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Choose the TAFI article for Week 19 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and CaroleHenson:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, ChrisGualtieri, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, Coin945, and Hmlarson:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, and Victor falk: and others:

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 19 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 06:12, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Results were:

Result was Travel documentary. Thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 20:42, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 20 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and CaroleHenson:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, ChrisGualtieri, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, Coin945, and Hmlarson:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others:

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 20 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 20:51, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Results were:

The result was Forests of Australia, catchiness will be archived, everything else goes back in the holding area. Thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 15:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 21 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and CaroleHenson:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, ChrisGualtieri, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, Coin945, and Hmlarson:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others:

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 21 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 15:44, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Comment - It's nice to see significant participation here (a friendly place).   NorthAmerica1000 11:33, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


Results were:

The result was French Revolutionary Wars, everything else goes back into the holding area. Thanks everyone, excellent participation levels. --NickPenguin(contribs) 02:12, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 22 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others:

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 22 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 02:22, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

repinging everyone @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman:


Results:

Result was Film criticism, liberal arts education and nontheism will be archived, everything else goes back into the holding area. Thanks everyone, --NickPenguin(contribs) 16:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 23 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others:

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 23 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 16:50, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

repinging everybody: @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman:

  • Didn't get the reping. However, here are my votes: Tickle Me Elmo, Civilization, Organ (anatomy). C679 08:26, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Results:

Another tie, Amazon Basin and Tickle Me Elmo will be scheduled in succession. Thanks everyone, --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Anyone going to Wikimania 2014?

Latest comment: 9 years ago7 comments5 people in discussion

If so, we can get leaflets printed to promote TAFI and recruit volunteers. - Evad37 [talk] 13:06, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

In fact, you don't even have to have anyone going - just fill in the template and we'll distribute it for you! Do please spread this around any other projects you work on, or lists you frequent. EdSaperia (talk) 11:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
That's a great idea that I would have never thought of. If there's anyone going, this would be an excellent opportunity to spread the word. --NickPenguin(contribs) 03:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
That is a fantastic proposal. I say go for it!! (does this project have a logo btw?) Turn➦ 01:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
@Turn685: - our logo is  . GiantSnowman 11:57, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
I've put in a basic submission at https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Project_Leaflets#Today.27s_Articles_For_Improvement but please everyone feel free to edit it (today's non-article page for improvement  ). @NickPenguin: I put you down as a second contact (I hope you don't mind). - Evad37 [talk] 12:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Not a problem at all. I'll try to take a look at the submission more closely and make some improvements. --NickPenguin(contribs) 22:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 25 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others:

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 25 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


Thanks everyone, the result was as follows - Evad37 [talk] 12:32, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Article Points Notes
Construction worker 2 Will be returned to holding area
International law 9
Meadow 3
Biodegradable plastic 1
Louis Pasteur 2
Monarchies in Africa 3
Hammond Typewriter 10
National Library of China 13 Will be scheduled
Symphony 3 Will be returned to holding area
Ozone layer 2

Choose the TAFI article for Week 26 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 26 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, - Evad37 [talk] 12:58, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


Results were:

Result was Anubis, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 18:09, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 27 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 27 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 18:18, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


Results:

Result was Java Man, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 22:37, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 28 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 28 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 22:50, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


Results:

Result was Stir frying, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 21:50, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 29 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, and Ypnypn:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 29 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 21:57, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Results were:

Discussion notice

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

A discussion is occurring at Template talk:Find sources regarding updating the Find sources template with links to the Google News and Google newspapers searches. Interested editors are invited to contribute to the discussion. The discussion is located here. NorthAmerica1000 08:09, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 30 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, Ypnypn, and Madalibi:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 30 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 16:42, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Results were:

Result was Jazz band, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 01:21, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 31 of 2014

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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, Ypnypn, and Madalibi:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Sumanah, and Buffbills7701:, @Newyorkadam, Simplysavvy, Tomásdearg92, and Wikiuser13:, @Cloudz679, Turn685, Victor falk, and GiantSnowman: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 31 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 01:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


Result was Vatican Library, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:40, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Best and Fairest from Week 27

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Although there are many contributors each week, I find that often one or two really stand apart from the rest of us, in terms of the quality and the substantial nature of their contributions. So with that in mind, I would like to start an informal acknowledgement of the Best and Fairest editors from each week, so that they can receive some public recognition for their hard work.

With that in mind, I really feel that Madalibi (talk · contribs) did a great job on Java Man. At the start it was barely a C class, but now it is an excellent example of well sourced, well researched material. I'd also like to acknowledge Madalibi's significant improvements to Anubis and National Library of China, so well done on those too.

My hope is that by sharing our accomplishments and showing our appreciation to editors that do a great job, we can encourage all project participants to make at least one substantial improvement each week. --NickPenguin(contribs) 02:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much, NickPenguin! I did spend a lot of time on these articles, but access to reliable sources was the key. Apart from actual books that I own, Questia, HighBeam, and JSTOR helped a lot. Wikipedia Library is still granting free accounts at WP:Questia and WP:HighBeam, so I encourage interested editors to apply! WP:JSTOR is also granting free access to 400 editors. I see that the count has reached 436, but dozens of applications date from 2012, so there may still be space.
And yes! It would be wonderful if each TAFI participant could make a small contribution every week! Articles can be improved in a number of ways without doing any research: by copyediting (punctuation, grammar, etc.), improving footnote format, checking for copyright violations on web sources, streamlining structure, adding images, making image captions more intriguing (many readers look at images first and may be encouraged to read on if the caption teases their interest), merging short paragraphs with similar contents, adding templates and portals (Northamerica1000 has done a great job on that front!), creating a relevant infobox, linking to other WP articles, adding relevant categories or WikiProjects, finding external links, etc.
Finally, a great thank you to NickPenguin, who has been the driving force behind TAFI for so long, and who keeps feeding his enthusiasm into the project. Efforts are starting to pay off, as new names have appeared lately on the TAFI pages (David Condrey and Khamar this week, CFCF and Melody Lavender last week). I think TAFI is looking good again and has a great future ahead of it!
Cheers to all participants old and new! Madalibi (talk) 04:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 32 of 2014

Latest comment: 9 years ago13 comments8 people in discussion
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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, Ypnypn, and Madalibi:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Buffbills7701, and Newyorkadam:, @Turn685, Victor falk, GiantSnowman, and Melody Lavender: @EMachine03, Simplysavvy, and EuroCarGT: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 32 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


Results:

Result was Animatronics, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 03:57, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Removal from ping list
Hello. How can I be removed from the list of people pinged each week for TAFI selection? I'm not in the list at Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Members/Notifications. Please remove me. Thank you. Sumana Harihareswara 16:23, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  Done - Evad37 [talk] 00:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I apologize, you participated one week in the voting, I have just been copy pasting the ping list from week to week. I have also removed a couple others who have not participated in over two months. --NickPenguin(contribs) 01:58, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
No problem. :) Thanks User:NickPenguin and User:Evad37. Sumana Harihareswara 14:17, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Main Page return?

Latest comment: 9 years ago8 comments7 people in discussion

It's been over a year since TAFI was taken off the Main Page, and over six months since the new one-per-week format was introduced, with associated changes to the holding area and selection procedure. So, without going into any detailed formats/proposals yet, let me ask: Is this something we (as project) still want, and if so, is it time to try to get back on the Main Page? - Evad37 [talk] 04:57, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm a relative newcomer to TAFI (my first experience was with Prehistoric Asia, and I really started to get involved with Tickle Me Elmo), so I'm not sure what the advantages and drawbacks would be of going back to the Main Page. I do remember, though, that I've seen this very issue being discussed here about 3 months ago. I have to run, but I'll be back to comment after I try to understand this issue better. Madalibi (talk) 06:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
A main page entry would likely increase participation to the nominations page 100-fold compared to the present amount of contributions there. That would obviously be a plus. NorthAmerica1000 07:53, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
We have demonstrated that the project can sustain itself as far as a process goes, but we still lack that "wow" factor when it comes to our past work. I really think we need to work on improving content (which is improving, a lot) and then show up with that, asking for a better showcase. --NickPenguin(contribs) 11:02, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm not fully involved in this Project - my contribution is pretty limited to !voting for articles - but anything that gets more people helping out, resulting in better articles, is only a good thing. GiantSnowman 11:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Promoting a helpful project is beneficial. TAFI is also listed on the sidebar menu at Wikipedia:Community portal (scroll down the page). ///EuroCarGT 19:20, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
I definitely think TAFI should be featured again on the main page. It's a fun project and has a lot of potential to be much larger if featured :) Turn➦ 23:20, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
  • In the last few weeks, there has been a significant increase in the quality of our articles. The number of regular participants has also increased. If we can continue to improve articles steadily for the next few weeks, I think we can seriously consider working on a new proposal. But it would have to be something pretty good before we bring it to the village pump. --NickPenguin(contribs) 04:13, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Best and Fairest from week 28

Latest comment: 9 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

This week saw a lot of significant improvement to stir frying, which went from this to this in just 7 days. Significant milestones include a 4x expansion in both length and the number of citations. Other improvements include a significantly longer lede, expanded history section, expanded techniques section, and two new sections on nutritional value and medicinal uses, as well as almost a dozen new images.

True to the collaborative spirit, this week had a lot of contributions from a lot of users. Early additions from @David Condrey: got the ball rolling, with other large additions from @Madalibi:, @CWH:, @Finnusertop:, @Melody Lavender: and myself. Other appreciated contributions came from @Gzuufy:, @Khamar:, @Iztwoz:, @Bilorv:, @Northamerica1000: and @Sergei:. And of course, our good friends @EuroCarGT: and AnomieBOT (talk · contribs), both on template duty.

Thanks to everyone for making this week's collaboration a success. All of your contributions are valued, wither it be whole paragraphs of new content, or a small copyedit. The more edits we get on an article, the more pings it will get in watchlists, and the more attention we can attract to the project. Hopefully this weeks collaboration will be just as successful.

Well done everyone, and thanks again. --NickPenguin(contribs) 05:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Whoop whoop! Thx. David Condrey (talk) 08:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
This is the first time I see this in the many months I've observed TAFI: a true team effort that really managed to improve the article. Congrats and thanks to all! Madalibi (talk) 08:53, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 33 of 2014

Latest comment: 9 years ago11 comments9 people in discussion
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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, Ypnypn, and Madalibi:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Buffbills7701, and Newyorkadam:, @Turn685, Victor falk, GiantSnowman, and Melody Lavender: @EMachine03, Simplysavvy, and EuroCarGT: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 33 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 04:06, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


Results were:

Result was Ghost story, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 17:50, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Best and Fairest from week 29

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

7 days of hard editing turned C-4 (explosive) from this into this. Significant milestones include a 6x expansion of article text and a 5x expansion in the number of references. Other improvements were new sections about composition, detonation, safety, toxicity, investigation, use in terrorism, expanded history section and a dozen new images.

We had another round of significant contributions, especially from @Flat Out:, @Finnusertop:, @Melody Lavender:, @Madalibi:, @CSJJ104:, @David Condrey:, @Tomásdearg92:, and @Khamar:. Other contributions came from @2001:981:3832:1:2938:8DDD:DFED:5F6D:, @Kolbasz:, @Ceosad:, @Jonesey95:, @Kvng:, @69.142.175.153:, and myself, as well as Theo's Little Bot (talk · contribs), AnomieBOT (talk · contribs) and EuroCarGT (talk · contribs).

Everyone did a awesome job working on this collaboration. Thanks to everyone for their improvements, we had another tremendous week. Hopefully everyone can turn their browsers to Jazz band make that another example of the great work we can do. --NickPenguin(contribs) 06:11, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Discussion area

Latest comment: 9 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

Hi, is there anywhere to discuss the current nominated articles? CSJJ104 (talk) 20:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Not in particular, probably just as a comment on the nomination page. What in particular did you have in mind? --NickPenguin(contribs) 20:41, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, sorry. To clarify I meant the list of 10 articles currently being voted on for a future weeks article for improvement. Is it appropriate to highlight issues or current ratings of such articles?
Feel free to make a subsection in the voting section. We don't bite. --NickPenguin(contribs) 02:06, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Speak for yourself. Some of us bite, it's more like nibbling though really ;) David Condrey (talk) 08:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

C4

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Good work on the C-4 article everybody. Take a look at the diff between the current version and last weeks.. It's NUTS how dramatic the difference is. David Condrey (talk) 11:24, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey, there's still 11 hours, you never know what might happen! But yes, everyone did an absolutely awesome job, compare this "article" to our fantastic creation. Here's looking forward to Jazz band for next week. --NickPenguin(contribs) 13:41, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Pick a better article next week! lol This week's article shouldn't even exist in my opinion, it ought to be merged into other articles or have other articles merged into it. Seems like a lot of duplicate content spread out across a number of related pages. David Condrey (talk) 08:54, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Next week is Vatican library, which is a topic that has a lot more meat to it. I think it will go much better. --NickPenguin(contribs) 07:42, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 34 of 2014

Latest comment: 9 years ago21 comments15 people in discussion
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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, Ypnypn, and Madalibi:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Buffbills7701, and Newyorkadam:, @Turn685, Victor falk, GiantSnowman, and Melody Lavender: @EMachine03, Simplysavvy, EuroCarGT, and CSJJ104: @Cloudz679: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 34 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 18:02, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Results were:

Result was History of West Africa, which I didn't think was the winner, but it was the popular second choice. Thanks everyone, get participation in the voting this week. --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:23, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Article special cases

Hi, new to this but was wondering if TAFI has any policy regarding articles tagged for proposed merging/deletion (e.g. dentistry), or ones regarded as core articles (e.g. Performing Arts)? CSJJ104 (talk) 11:55, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your question. In regard to Dentist, the article if I recall correctly, didn't have a merge template when it was nominated while a long time ago, so it was not a factor. Sometimes when an article is chosen, a discussion begins on any relevant merges that need to take place, and actually speeds things along remarkably. In general, nominating an article of "just-notability", i.e. one that is dubious and could well be deleted, is discouraged as this project is more for those obvious or important topics that for some bizarre reason have been forgotten on Wikipedia. Which is where a core article like Performing Arts comes in.--Coin945 (talk) 12:09, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
The randomly selected articles every week are selected from the Holding Area (tab at the top), which is made up of all the articles that were successfully nominated over the last two years. The articles that are randomly selected could have been nominated as long as two years ago, so sometimes they have changed dramatically the old fashioned way.
The reason we do the voting thing is because sometimes articles would be nominated to be improved, and people would support them, but when they came around on rotation, no one would actually work on them. Sometimes interesting sounding articles are not good candidates to be improved. With the voting thing, its the overall most popular article that gets the focus. --NickPenguin(contribs) 13:32, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
For example, Anatomy has since become a GA article after its nomination, so in my books it would be deleted from rotation by default.--Coin945 (talk) 14:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, when I was going through the articles for my votes, I was like, "Did we do that?". And for a behind the scenes look at how the articles are randomly selected, I open www.random.org in another tab and generate 11 random numbers, then copy those numbers from the holding area into here. Sometimes if you generate 10 sometimes you get a duplicate duplicate. --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:45, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Best and Fairest from Week 30

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At the start, I really wasn't sure how this week's collaboration was going to turn out, probably because apparently no one likes jazz. But it turned out better than I had imagined, as we collectively turned this start into this solid finish.

Significant milestones were an expanded lede section, expanded sections on the rhythm and horn sections, and turning the list of notable jazz bands into a prose section. Other important additions came with the significant expansion of the band instrumentation sections including a dozen different instruments and how they are used in jazz, a new section on ensemble types, a repertoire and a history section, as well as over a dozen new images and, for the first time, the addition of 9 sounds (which I thought was a particularly great idea).

We saw significant improvements from @Finnusertop:, @Evad37:, @CSJJ104:, @Northamerica1000:, @MirrorFreak:, @David Condrey:, @Melody Lavender:, @Khamar:, and myself. As well, other contributions came from @Noah305: and @Rsrikanth05:. And of course template duty from AnomieBOT (talk · contribs) and Theo's Little Bot (talk · contribs).

Many thanks to everyone involved, hopefully this week's article Vatican Library can turn into another success. --NickPenguin(contribs) 21:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, although I didn't do much but was planning on doing so. As much as I love working on content creation, I feel I won't be able to contribute effectively at times because I feel the collaboration something I have no connection to. The current one is like that. I'll do my best to chip in however. Cheerio, Happy editing. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:55, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Man that felt like a long week. lol Whoop whoop :p David Condrey (talk) 03:32, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I feel the same way. Haha.Mirror Freak 14:49, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Logo awesomeness

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Who designed the TAFI logo again? I just wanted to give a shoutout to whoever came up with that slick and extremely clever design, working off the featured article star to concisely comment on how we fit into the larger scheme of Wikipedia practices.--Coin945 (talk) 15:34, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

The credit goes to Amadscientist - see discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Today's_articles_for_improvement/Archive_3#Project_logo - Evad37 [talk] 23:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
That was such a nice thing to say. Although I always wondered if people really liked it.(formerly Amadscientist)--Mark Miller (talk) 02:59, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I like it a lot! The logo shows improvement and development, in which the original FA star shows an fully developed article which an FA is about. ///EuroCarGT 03:05, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I probably didn't voice it as much when you made it, but it really is a great logo. --NickPenguin(contribs) 03:54, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks NickPenguin and EuroCarGT! It is very encouraging to see the support and compliments!--Mark Miller (talk) 04:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 35 of 2014

Latest comment: 9 years ago13 comments11 people in discussion
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Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, Ypnypn, and Madalibi:, @Moswento, Kvng, and Coin945:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Buffbills7701, and Newyorkadam:, @Turn685, Victor falk, GiantSnowman, and Melody Lavender: @EMachine03, Simplysavvy, EuroCarGT, and CSJJ104: @Cloudz679, Iselilja, Khamar, and Finnusertop: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 35 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:32, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Results were:

Result was Solar activity, thanks everyone. --NickPenguin(contribs) 06:54, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Nominations page and archiving

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The Nominations page is rather sparse. Please feel free to add more entries there. Also, should the User:Theo's Little Bot parameters for archiving be extended so that entries stay on the nominations page longer? This may be helpful to retain nominations and allow more time for responses. NorthAmerica1000 03:26, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Accomplishments

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In this section, can there also be a before/after "bytes" comparison, or even just a "difference in bytes" number? It's not a wholly useful way to check improvement but it should at least be part of the discussion.--Coin945 (talk) 14:48, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I notice that a new template has been employed, which might that section easier to update. I find the class at start and finish not as useful, because these are essentially self evaluations. The increase in bytes and citations would probably be a better measurement of improvement. --NickPenguin(contribs) 15:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
The DYK clan utilizes prosesize.js, specified here Wikipedia:Did_you_know - or at least a few of them still use this tool. (And yes, now that I write this I realize that you are working on automation and not userspace tools.) Kyle(talk) 03:44, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
A bot could be written to use the code in that .js file, that would be a great start. --NickPenguin(contribs) 04:05, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Choose the TAFI article for Week 36 of 2014

Latest comment: 9 years ago13 comments11 people in discussion
The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived.

Hello @Buster7, Northamerica1000, NickPenguin, and Esoxid:, @Kvng, Whiteghost.ink, Ypnypn, and Madalibi:, @Moswento, Kvng, Coin945, and Mark Miller:, @WaitingForConnection, Evad37, Buffbills7701, and Newyorkadam:, @Turn685, Victor falk, GiantSnowman, and Melody Lavender: @EMachine03, Simplysavvy, EuroCarGT, and CSJJ104: @Cloudz679, Iselilja, Khamar, and Finnusertop: and others (anyone can participate!):

The following articles have been randomly chosen from the holding area:

Please indicate, before 23:59 UTC Saturday, your top three preferences in order: your top pick first, then your second choice, and then your third. These will be allocated 3, 2, and 1 points respectively, and the most popular article (with the most points) will be added to the scheduled for week 35 of 2014. Articles that receive at least one vote will be returned to the holding area, while articles with no votes will be archived. On behalf of the TAFI project, --NickPenguin(contribs) 07:06, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Results:

I have moved Raven Tales to Ravens in Native American mythology, which is a subtopic of Cultural depictions of ravens. The new title is a little bit broader, and would probably be easier to improve. If this is a contentious decision we can discuss before the schedule rolls over. --NickPenguin(contribs) 06:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Best and Fairest from Week 31

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Seven days and seven nights turned Vatican Library from this into this. Significant improvements included expanded History, Collections, Manuscripts and Staff sections, as well as a new Location and Building section, Library Organization, and a gallery with a dozen new images, as well as renaming a few sections. We also almost tripled the number of citations, as well as doubled the length.

Major contributions came from @Evad37:, @CSJJ104:, @Finnusertop:, @Madalibi:, @Melody Lavender: and myself. Other contributions came from @MirrorFreak:, @EuroCarGT:, @Khamar:, @Mum's taxi:, @Whiteghost.ink:, @Northamerica1000:, @Ryan115:, @Ceosad:.

Thanks everyone for all your work, let's make Animatronics another successful collaboration. --NickPenguin(contribs) 05:14, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I really need Animatronics to be over, I'm getting obsessed. lol David Condrey (talk) 21:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

{{COTWs}}

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Template:COTWs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:11, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Article collaboration

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Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Article collaboration has been nominated for deletion. This discussion is located here. NorthAmerica1000 07:23, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Best and Fairest from week 32

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A marathon seven days brought Animatronics from this to this. This was definitely a turn around article, we began with only just a lede, history and construction section. By the seventh day, we had an improved lede, significantly improved history section, a timeline, an implementation section with dozens of examples, and an expanded construction section with information about various materials. As well as seven new images, a 6.5x expansion in length, and a 13x increase in the number of citations. Also, this would be eligible for a DYK if a project participant were to nominate it.

Many thanks go to @David Condrey:, @Horai 551:, @Tomásdearg92:, @Melody Lavender:, @EuroCarGT:, and @CSJJ104: as well as @Finnusertop:, @Northamerica1000:, @Buster7:, @Evad37: and @Sfan00 IMG:. As well as our faithful bot companions, always watching out for us.

Thanks again everyone, here's looking forward to another successful week with Ghost story. --NickPenguin(contribs) 03:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination

Nominated. David Condrey (talk) 07:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


Reaching out to the DYK project

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I can see a lot of similarities between our project and Did You Know?, and I feel like that the two groups could work well together. They have a large group of editors interested in improving content, and they may also find a project such as this interesting. Plus it would be good if we could have our improved content featured in DYK so as to raise project awareness. I'm looking for ideas of how we can encourage the projects to coordinate together. --NickPenguin(contribs) 04:51, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Can't hurt to ask, can it? CSJJ104 (talk) 22:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

These developed articled should be deleted from the Holding Area

Latest comment: 9 years ago11 comments6 people in discussion

Having gone through the articles in the Holding Area, I have chosen (through my albeit arbitrary methods) the following articles that I feel since being nominated have been expanded enough that TAFI is no longer suitable. It is worth noting that many of these articles actually did run for a week but were kept after switching to the 1-per-week system. Otherwise I just don't think the type of article works for us.

I hope none of these are contentious. This way we can free up contributions for articles that really need it. We've found that the less developed an article is, the better our collaboration is. (Our very first TAFI was Culture, despite my fervent objections. It went about as well as you'd expect).

I have not taken into account articles that probably need to have merge discussions, or even AFDs.--Coin945 (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment of all those articles. Some of them were nominated almost two years ago, so a lot has happened since then. Maybe we should make some (arbitrary) guidelines about article nominations. For me, length by itself is not reason enough to not support a nomination, but definitely having more than 20 citations, that is a sign that the article is already pretty developed. --NickPenguin(contribs) 17:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I look at a few main things: Length of article (i.e. how small the side-scroller becomes :P), how much of the content is sourced, number of sources, how well the citations have been written, whether there are whole sections missing, whether the article is below B-class.--Coin945 (talk) 18:04, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Regarding the lists above, if they're messy, it's a qualifier as an article for improvement, in my opinion. NorthAmerica1000 00:19, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
I find the long lists intimidating, it would be difficult to imagine a new editor show up at List of types of marble and know what they could do to improve it. --NickPenguin(contribs) 04:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
NickPenguin nailed it on the head. Every time one of the list pops up as one of the 10 articles, i skip straight over it. They are intimidating and confusing. Not conducive to group improvement at all.--Coin945 (talk) 17:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
I would mention that shorter lists might actually be quite easy for newer editors to mention. It is a comparatively simple matter to add a link to a page, with or without a short description, and many are in need of formatting or a lead section. Perhaps using class definitions might help? E.g. anything above a C class is considered too developed. Another problem may be articles like Whaling (is this not to be archived anyway?) where discretionary sanctions can be imposed, possibly discouraging to new editors. CSJJ104 (talk) 23:34, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

We have had success with lists, such as Life sciences (before), but a well developed, even if messy, list article is probably going to be just as hard to improve as a well developed, even if messy, B-Class article. And re classes: we have had proposals to limit the eligibility criteria based on class, but the outcome of such discussions has been to rely on editors' discretion in picking articles, rather than class (which isn't always up to date or accurate) - Evad37 [talk] 02:06, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Life sciences was kind of an interesting case, because there was essentially no new content created, it was just grabbing content from other articles. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But to touch on a point Coin945 said, I think we need to consider what will be "conductive to group improvement", in both the noms and the articles we vote for each week. Sometimes the articles I find interesting make just terrible collaborations. --NickPenguin(contribs) 04:55, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps two separate votes - one for articles and one for lists? The lists vote could be monthly if there aren't many nominations. Or is this just complicating things innecessarily? Sophie means wisdom (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Sophie means wisdom: one vote would probably be the best system. I think we should focus on finding list articles that are good candidates for improvement to list as nominations. --NickPenguin(contribs) 22:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
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