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2005-10-10

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2005-10-10

Quality of Wikipedia writing questioned

Last Monday, an essay critical of Wikipedia prompted Jimmy Wales to raise the issue of how to improve the quality of writing in Wikipedia articles, conceding that there were significant problems in some areas.

The essay in question was posted by business journalist and author Nicholas Carr on his blog 3 October. Its focus was actually on the Web 2.0 concept, and Carr gave it the title, "The amorality of Web 2.0". His reflections were prompted by media coverage leading up to this past week's Web 2.0 Conference, and the idealistic notions of people like conference organizer Tim O'Reilly. Carr argued that although the technology behind the Web is fundamentally amoral, the glowing rhetoric around it is creating a quasi-religious fervor and contributing to the "cult of the amateur".

As an example of this phenomenon, Carr turned to Wikipedia, saying, "If you read anything about Web 2.0, you'll inevitably find praise heaped upon Wikipedia as a glorious manifestation of 'the age of participation.'" His own assessment: "In reality, though, Wikipedia isn't very good at all." To support this, he quoted passages from the articles on Bill Gates and Jane Fonda that he described as "an incoherent hodgepodge of dubious factoids", adding that these were representative of much of Wikipedia's content.

Wales observed that while he generally disagreed with Carr's argument, the Fonda and Gates articles "are, quite frankly, a horrific embarassment." He opened a mailing list discussion exploring how this type of situation can develop and what could be done to correct it. This prompted a variety of responses: Stan Shebs commented that some well-meaning contributors make edits that, while not vandalism, aren't improvements either, and this sometimes causes articles to deteriorate over time; Charles Matthews highlighted the point that Wikipedia's policies for fostering more professional writing focus on factual disputes (neutral point of view, no original research, and citing sources) rather than "style crimes".

The discussion broadened to cover the challenges of producing featured articles (see related story). One observation made was that it seems easier to develop a quality article about an esoteric subject than a general one. Wales also clarified that his goal is for Wikipedia to be better than the Encyclopædia Britannica, period, and that being free is not a justification for inferior quality.

On Thursday, Carr followed up his original post by quoting a message from David Gerard, which conceded much of Carr's criticism but arguing, "if we want a good encyclopedia in ten years, it's going to have to be a good Wikipedia." Carr closed by saying, "as I feel we're mainly in agreement, I'll leave it there."



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2005-10-10

Criticism of the ArbCom

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2005-10-10

Candidates join the race for ArbCom

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2005-10-10

News and notes

French contributor dies

Treanna passed away on 18 September 2005. With over 30,000 edits, of which about 25,000 were in article space in just two years, Treanna was the most active contributor of the French Wikipédia. Aged 31, he had just started to contribute again after a coronary incident which had landed him in the hospital in July. The french speaking community was informed of his condition thanks to one of his sisters, Anne, by email and on this page, throughout the summer. Treanna will be remembered as a great contributor in all domains, but especially in the domains of history, archeology, genealogy, palaeography and related topics. The French Wikipedia community has decided to honour him in working together on a WikiReader about the Middle Ages, a part of Wikipédia to which he has greatly contributed. According to Myriam, his youngest sister, the WikiReader could "help us, his family, to better realise the extent of what he knew and loved to share... the knowledge he did not have time to teach us". Many contributors have expressed their condolences to the family here.

Article rescue contest

An "article rescue contest", modeled after Danny's contest, has started. The goal is to salvage articles nominated on AFD that otherwise would get little attention, and that merit an article. Entries can either be rewrites of kept articles, or recreations of deleted articles with significant new information. The deadline for entries is 23:59 UTC on 22 October.

Esperanza update

Esperanza, the new community group within Wikipedia (see archived story), has enacted sweeping changes and initiated Advisory Committee elections. The group, which has faced some controversy for its perceived bureaucratic-style setup, has focused on welcoming new users, and helping out users dealing with WikiStress. Redwolf24 says of the group, "The number one benefit I personally have gotten from Esperanza is that I've made a lot of new friends. It's a pretty fun, rather fraternal community."

Wikiversity vote continues

The Wikiversity project, which currently resides on Wikibooks, started a vote on 15 September to move to wikiversity.org, which currently hosts a near-dormant German Wikiversity project. The vote will remain open until 1 November. Currently, the vote is about 69% in favor of the project (a two-thirds majority and board approval is required to start a project beta period).

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2005-10-10

In the news

Wales joins Socialtext board of directors

The Socialtext wiki company announced on Monday, October 3 that Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales had joined Tim Draper, Joi Ito, and Ross Mayfield on the Socialtext board of directors. ([1], [2])

Sergey Brin lecture

Sergey Brin, multi-billionaire co-founder of Google, was a surprise guest speaker at UC Berkeley associate professor Marti Hearst's "Search Engines: Technology, Society, and Business" class on Monday, October 3. He remarked on Wikipedia: "This is a simple idea – one you would assume would not work, but it does, One reason is scale: it taps the power and potential of a global audience." (press release, link to video)

American national radio show

Newspaper columnist and radio commentator Craig Crossman recently interviewed Jimmy Wales on his nationally syndicated radio talk show on computers. On October 6, he wrote New Wikipedia truly the ‘encyclopedia of the people’, a glowing review of the site and a discussion of the ease of editing an article about his talk show, Computer America, while that show was on the air.

Article quality criticisms

Wikipedia was the center of a blog discussion started by Nicholas Carr (see related story). [3]

A related discussion on "Nitpicking Wikipedia's Vulnerabilities" was started by editor CowboyNeal on Slashdot on October 6. [4]

Wikipedia eats Google?

Sunir Shah posted on the Socialtext website on September 30 about the increasing dominance of Wikipedia in Google search results. This prompted a flurry of blog responses, some critical of Shah's conclusions, including Steve Rubel, Brad Hill, and Elliott Back.

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2005-10-10

Featured article production dropping

The declining pace of new featured articles was a focus of considerable attention this week, prompting debate and activity in other projects and on the wikien-l mailing list about how to address the situation.

Six articles were promoted to Featured status this week: Mercantilism, French law on secularity and conspicuous religious symbols in schools, W. Mark Felt, Richard O'Connor, Peterborough Chronicle, and Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me). The pace of new featured articles has fallen just under one per day; while a significant backlog of featured articles has not appeared on the Main Page yet, the decreased production has given cause for concern.

Earlier, Featured Article Director Raul654 had noted that the ratio of featured articles to other articles in English Wikipedia was about to fall below 1:1000, or 0.1%. Toothpaste called this event "a sad day in Wikiland." [13]

This led to an extended discussion about the causes of the problem, including debate about the value of the featured article process itself. Tony Sidaway expressed the opinion that many featured articles had managed to get through the process in spite of being badly written. The criticism also ties in with the complaint of a business journalist who commented on the poor writing in two other (non-featured) articles (see related story).

In an effort to compensate for the problems with both quality and quantity, several projects are underway. The Collaboration of the Week project and the Peer review process are two efforts that have been particularly productive in generating successful featured article candidates. Talrias expressed concern that the activity level on the Collaboration of the Week "has fallen quite considerably" in recent months, and called for ideas on how to reinvigorate the project. Also, the Featured Article Drive, designed specifically to help guide articles through the process, was re-launched this week by Rob Church.

Administrators

This week, thirteen users gained administrator status: Gyrofrog (nom), Durin (nom), Kwamikagami (nom), OwenX (nom), NicholasTurnbull (nom), Nabla (nom), 23skidoo (nom), Graft (nom), Brian_Kendig (nom), Mairi (nom), DragonflySixtyseven (nom), RoySmith (nom) and BillyH (nom).

Other featured content

One list gained featured status: Northwest Territories general elections

One photo gained featured status, while Image:Mark 48 Torpedo testing.jpg was demoted.



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2005-10-10

The Report On Lengthy Litigation

The Arbitration Committee closed two cases this week; one against User:Cool Cat (a.k.a. Coolcat), and another against Yuber and Guy Montag.

Cool Cat

A case against Cool Cat has closed. The ruling prohibits Cool Cat from mediating or restructuring talk pages, and puts him in a one year mentorship. Complaints about Cool Cat's ineffective informal mediation came about when he unsuccessfully tried to mediate a number of articles where he had an editing dispute. Mark Ryan, Tony Sidaway, and MacGyverMagic will be his mentors. Davenbelle, Stereotek (a.k.a. Karl Meier), and Fadix were warned to let other users handle disputes with Cool Cat; they had been criticized for wiki-stalking.

Yuber/Guy Montag

A case against Yuber and Guy Montag has closed. The dispute was mainly over articles involving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Both users were put on one year probation. In addition, Yuber was restricted to editing only under that account, and Guy Montag was banned from Israeli-Palestinian conflict-related articles for three months. Jayjg was also warned against edit warring.

Other cases

Cases against -Ril- (user page), an IP dubbed DotSix, 12.144.5.2 (user page, a.k.a. Louis Epstein), Rktect (user page), DreamGuy (user page), Ultramarine (user page), Keetowah (user page), Maoririder (user page), Onefortyone (user page), BigDaddy777 (user page), Zephram Stark (user page), and numerous editors on Bogdanov Affair are in the evidence phase.

Cases against Stevertigo (user page), Rainbowwarrior1977 (user page), and Instantnood (user page) are in the voting phase.



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