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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Henderson State bowl games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless navbox. All red links. Mhiji 23:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete under WP:G8. Airplaneman 04:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Header Lists of places by name (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. List of places by name and the associated pages were previously deleted. Mhiji 23:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Heb (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Doesn't reflect consensus - shouldn't exist. Mhiji 23:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hbrseggolmale (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hbrzeremale (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hbrkhafs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hbrhemappiq (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hbrllamed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hbrwwaw (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 23:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hb team Ciudad Real (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to {{Hb team}} Mhiji 23:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hazfi Cup Seasons (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Redundant to Template:Hazfi Cup Mhiji 23:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:03, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hampton bowl games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox. All red links. Mhiji 23:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:03, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Half flag color box (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Pretty useless. Mhiji 23:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 16:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Haa (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 23:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:HSBC States (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. All the links link to the template itself. Mhiji 23:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:01, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:HNCOTWvoter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. WP:HCOTW is now inactive. Mhiji 23:26, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 22:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Japanese television station (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Non-english Mhiji 22:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 22:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Japanese minor go titleholders start (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 22:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 22:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Japanese go titleholders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 22:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Japanese go title holder list (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:Japanese go titles Mhiji 22:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:JF Grang Software (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 22:42, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 16:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:JB gp q (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 22:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 16:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:REP2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:REP1 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 22:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RD header new (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Failed proposal. No longer necessary. Mhiji 22:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Radio Wikipedia Delivery (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Unnecessary, WP:Radio Wikipedia is now inactive. Mhiji 22:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ReaMUKip (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to {{SharedIPEDU}} Mhiji 22:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:57, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:La familia P. Luche (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Another template which links only the main article, a couple of more articles, and other cast/crew sections which do not belong to navboxes. WP:NENAN. --LoЯd ۞pεth 22:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete, if someone wants to create a "race flag" system, go right ahead, but this one is unused. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Red flag (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Just links to a picture. Mhiji 22:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment is there a race flag icon system similar to the country flag system? if not, merge this into such a system, so that race flags can be consistently displayed (green flag, checkered flag, red flag, etc) 184.144.161.119 (talk) 05:55, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 22:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Reality check (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 22:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Russian krais (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Russian oblasts (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Russian republics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:Subdivisions of Russia. Mhiji 22:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 22:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rwdev (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Pretty useless really, we don't need cleanup templates for individual sentences. Mhiji 22:20, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rvhb (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rvha (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. No longer necessary. Mhiji 22:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RollerCoasterClassification (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. All links go to the same place, Roller_coaster#By_height Mhiji 22:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. As described above this template is unused and unnecessary. I think it was created just for a user's reference 5 years ago. Themeparkgc  Talk  03:36, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rolling Stone's 100 Best Songs of 2008 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rolling Stone's 100 Best Songs of 2007 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rolling Stone Top 50 Albums of 2007 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. No longer necessary. Mhiji 22:15, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Foreign (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is used to identify that an article on another language Wikipedia would be useful for cleaning up the identified article. This template is inferior to Template:Expand language. If the particular non-English Wikipedia article can be identified, as this template includes no parameteres, this template should be orphaned by replacement with "Expand language". Also, the label "foreign" is generally not accurate for referring to non-English languages, since English Wikipedia has no domesticity. Bsherr (talk) 22:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rajah Lakandula frigate (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless navbox. Mhiji 22:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RU internat squad start (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:RU internat squad player (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 22:09, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Quote box-left (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to {{Quote box|align=left}} Mhiji 22:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Soft deleted (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Part of the failed proposal WP:Soft deletion. No longer necessary. Mhiji 21:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Smallbullet (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 21:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sindot (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 21:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Secret Story (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused duplicate of Template:Big Brother France Mhiji 21:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Scripps TV Stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:EWS CORP Mhiji 21:51, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Scripps Networks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:SCRIPPS NET Mhiji 21:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sarawak at the Commonwealth Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Pointless navbox. All red links Mhiji 21:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Scale (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:Scales Mhiji 21:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Saint Helena political parties (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Pointless navbox. Mhiji 21:43, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:31, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sail Spars (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:Sail Types Mhiji 21:43, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Unused by Wikipedia:Meetup/San Francisco 5 & Wikipedia:Meetup/San Francisco 6 WOSlinker (talk) 22:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:San Francisco meetup 6 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:San Francisco meetup 5 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. The meetups have now been and gone... And they are redundant to {{San Francisco meetup}} anyway. Mhiji 21:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 23:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Saffron archives (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Talk:Saffron now uses {{Archive box}} Mhiji 21:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Todo for V1.0 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. No longer necessary. Mhiji 21:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. WOSlinker (talk) 22:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ToimetaAeg (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Doesn't make sense... Mhiji 21:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Thanksfrom (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 21:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Thailand Squad 1956 Summer Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox. All red links. Mhiji 21:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Texas A&M Colleges (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:Texas A&M University Mhiji 21:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Texas Tech Colleges (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:Texas Tech University Mhiji 21:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TennisAt1924SummerOlympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnnecessary. All red links. Mhiji 21:31, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. G2. WOSlinker (talk) 22:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tata Group1 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 21:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TallestBuildingBottom (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 21:23, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TVoter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. No longer necessary. Mhiji 21:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Taiwan independence (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Redundant to Template:Politics of the Republic of China Mhiji 21:20, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TWGOVT A-Class (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. No longer needed. The WikiProject is now inactive. Mhiji 21:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TVEpisodeTalk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:TVSeriesTalk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Redundant to Template:WikiProject Television and Template:Talk header. Mhiji 21:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TPIRGameTimeline (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Not touched since November 2008. Not helpful. The links all go to one page, List of The Price Is Right pricing games too so it's not useful for navigation. Mhiji 21:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TOC centuries (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji 21:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Location map of (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Location map of Iran (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fork of Template:Location map. It appears this was forked to improve compatibility with Internet Explorer, but it's not clear if this is still necessary. In addition, we should strive to make cross-browser templates, rather than programming for one in particular. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:51, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:24, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Twitter Titans Cricket Club squad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox for an article that was speedily deleted. cymru.lass (hit me up)(background check) 20:42, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:24, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:1996 UCI Road World Championships (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox. All red links. Useless! Mhiji (talk) 17:52, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, template now in use. Thaf (talk) 13:43, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I still think delete, since there's only one blue link. WP:NENAN. Mhiji (talk) 13:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:West Germany Squad 1980 Mundialito (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

One-off international tournament. The squads are listed at 1980 Mundialito squads and there is no need for a template to be put onto all players articles. Tikiwont (talk) 12:55, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Considered equivalent by whom? The participants are certainly differently selected than the Confed Cup. Moreover the German squad merely was invited and participated at this event but successful participation or at least qualification would also matter. Isn't there some discussion on when to have such a template or are they just propagated by analogy? --Tikiwont (talk) 13:08, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Your first point indicates a "Keep" opinion. Your second point is a subjective opinion that is not accepted policy or guideline, and is not a valid deletion argument. --Dweller (talk) 17:02, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Quite the opposite, actually. People have this silly notion that because a person's participation in an event is notable, a template listing other participants of the same event is appropriate. My rationale attempts to split the two, as they are not automatically joined. For instance, we do not have a {{2010 Grammy Award performers}} template, though it may be beneficial to note on the artist pages themselves that they made such a performance. As far as opinions not supported by policy, the first two keeps are WP:NOHARM and your opinion is just as subjective - we aren't debating the notability of the tournament, and as with the Grammy example, the notability of an event does not automatically create value for a template. Resolute 18:49, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the absence of community consensus that such templates generically should not be used, can we please focus attention on the deletion arguments regarding this particular one? --Dweller (talk) 13:37, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, if we can't show via example how ridiculous this template is, it becomes that much harder to challenge, eh? This template, like all of its peers, is simply the template equivalent of overcategorizing a performer by performance. Personally, I would like to hear if there is an argument for keeping beyond WP:ILIKEIT. Resolute 15:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've argued Keep on the grounds of notability. But the burden at XfD is on finding grounds for deletion, not retention, as Wikipedia is notpaper. Arguing delete because you personally dislike this type of template and have no consensus supporting you, is not an argument based on policy and is therefore, ironically, essentially IDON'TLIKEIT. --Dweller (talk) 15:20, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually burden of proof at XfD is on those wishing to keep. -DJSasso (talk) 16:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Are you implying that no consensus would result in default delete? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all, but he used the broad word XfD....articles for example have to proove they are notable, they aren't notable by default and then have to be prooven non notable. -DJSasso (talk) 17:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but in a deletion discussion, the burden of proof really is on those wishing to prove the case for deletion because, as you accept, the default position (of no consensus) is to keep. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Depends on how you look at it. To me no-consensus just means there was enough consensus to keep it for now but not enough to declare the article an outright keep. In other words to give the article a chance to be fixed (if possible). The burden of proof is still on the person creating the article and those wishing to keep it to proove that the article is notable. No-consensus is just a holding pattern to give them the chance to do that. -DJSasso (talk) 17:34, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, no consensus in a deletion discussion means that the closing admin weighed up the pros and cons and decided that there was insufficient argument in favour of deletion. Not that there was sufficient argument in favour of keep. "No consensus to delete" articles, templates, whatever, go on to exist (rightly so) for years. It's not a holding pattern, it's an indication that deletion is inappropriate. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No if the closing admin weighed up there was no arguement in favour of deletion then the close is Keep. And if there is no strong arguement for keep then the close is Delete. If there is a mixture of the two with neither being stronger then its no-consensus which essentially means we can't decide right now. -DJSasso (talk) 17:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why say no when you agreed with me? No consensus defaults to keep (which isn't a holding pattern, nor a "we can't decide", it's no consensus to delete) hence the burden is on the nominator to prove deletion. Anyway, this is pure digression. Let's focus on the topic in hand. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Because I don't think its no consensus to delete. Its no consensus to take either action. The decision is a let's leave it at status quo because there has been no decision either way. Which is why we say it defaults to keep. Yet its not an actual keep. But yes, it is a digression. -DJSasso (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We aren't debating the notability of the tournament, so your argument of keep on the basis of notability is irrelevant. The question is whether this template is useful, not whether the subject it aims to link are notable. Resolute 20:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • *sigh* One who is not interested in having my name dragged into dumb comments like "keep per the guy who !voted delete". Especially when the comment has no valid argument attached. I actually quite respect Rambling Man's work, and I am well aware that I am arguing a minority position here, but if you want to challenge my arguments, challenge them. Don't insult my intelligence. That said, since you are offended, I've struck the comment. Resolute 21:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry for the brief reply, I was busy watching a re-run of the 1978 FA Cup Final and my boys won again! I merely responded to the comment "We aren't debating the notability of the tournament, so your argument of keep on the basis of notability is irrelevant. The question is whether this template is useful, not whether the subject it aims to link are notable." and therefore I suggest we keep the template because I think it's a useful navigation tool. As far as I can see, it does no harm to have a useful navigable template, so that's why I agreed with Resolute's argument to debate its usefulness. It is useful, so keep. And 1-0 to the Tractor Boys. Wahey! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Redirect. WOSlinker (talk) 16:35, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Murugan temples (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No practical use foreseeable. This template contains only internal links separated by commas, an effect that could be reproduced easily without a template. Ks0stm (TCG) 08:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as a test page. It was apparently a test of citation markup. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 18:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cita publicación (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not really a template, more of a citation for a single thing/ cymru.lass (hit me up)(background check) 08:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Los Beverly de Peralvillo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template with only 4 links, one of them a crew/cast member of the TV series. All of them are linked through the main article or can be linked through a "See also" section. WP:NENAN. --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Una familia de diez (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template with only 3 links, one of them a crew/cast member of the TV series. All of them are linked through the main article. WP:NENAN. --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Part of the reason given for deletion has been proven false. No prejudice toward future noms if the Wikiproject is involved and notified. JPG-GR (talk) 19:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cartoon Network-Outreach (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless template. This template was never subst to user talk pages. JJ98 (Talk) 04:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:New South Wales locality list (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template that is a single link to a non-existent page on an external website AussieLegend (talk) 03:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Keep Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Futurama episode (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{Infobox television episode}}Justin (koavf)TCM01:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Agree that we shouldn't make series-specific episode templates. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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