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Creating an Ad

Hello again. i need help to create an Ad, I try doing it by mmyselfbut I couldn't. Miss Bono (zootalk) 18:40, Today (UTC+1)

I have removed your weird formatting. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

If by "Ad" you mean "advertisement", this is an encyclopedia, and not a place for advertisements, see WP:Advertising. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I mean this


Wikipedia ads	file info – #25

Miss Bono (zootalk) 18:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not too good with anything technical, but at Wikipedia:Wikipedia ads#Creating ads, there are instructions for Apple and Windows users. Here are the links:

For Apple: User:Cheong Kok Chun/How to create ads for Mac OS X users

For Windows: User:Miranda/96:FEW#How do you make those ads?

Forgive me if you already tried these. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 21:34, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but I use Linux at work. Don't worry, I think I'm not gonna need the ad...

Miss Bono (zootalk) 11:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Signature

I think I once tried to improve my signature but I couldn't get anything. can anyone help me? Miss Bono (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Just a test but I have made one...(t) Miss Bono (c) . You can change how much you want. (t) Josve05a (c) 15:45, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Miss Bono (talk) 15:50, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

How many characters have to has the signatureMiss Bono (talk) 15:54, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

It can be as small as you want...I think. Read this.-(t) Josve05a (c) 15:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't allow me to post the signature you made Miss Bono (talk) 16:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Where? I have copied my cod in to User:Josve05a/Sign, then I went to the settings and changed my signature to {{subst:User:Josve05a/Sign}} and pressed the box for "Treat the above as wiki markup." -(t) Josve05a (c) 16:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

And pressed "save" (ofc) -(t) Josve05a (c) 16:06, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

255 characters is the length limit for signatures, which is the the maximum number of characters allowed in the signature box in your preferences. Don't use page transclusion for bypassing this limit either (see Wikipedia:Signatures#Length for details and reasons for this). Anyway, that new signature is 312 characters long so please don't use it, Miss Bono. Josve05a, I'm afraid yours is over the limit as well, but in your case it should be fine if you just remove the "signature start" and "signature end" comments. Chamal ^T•C 16:15, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I MADE IT!!! THANK YOU!! :) Miss Bono (zootalk) 16:22, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

That won't do. The talkback link & date/time tag are invisible against the black background. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

How can I change that???

Miss Bono (zootalk) 16:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Look now Miss Bono (zootalk) 17:01, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I like the new one much better

nerd fighter 23:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Note though that some colour combinations can be hard to read, especially for old farts like me: red on black for example, and white on turquoise. I think there is a website somewhere that discusses readability of colour combinations - I'll see if I can find it.--ukexpat (talk) 16:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

As somewhat of an expert on this topic, may I suggest reading WP:SIG#Appearance and color (specifically this site note) and testing your color compatibility with this tool? Technical 13 (talk) 17:06, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Why is Examiner.com a blocked website?

It annoys me how Examiner can be used to establish some notability, but is is listed as a spam website on Wikipedia. Can anyone explain why? Thanks. ~~JHUbal27 02:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/March_2012#Question_blacklisting_of_Examiner.com_as_spam_site Regards, Ariconte (talk) 03:38, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

using references

when you cite a reference, do you have to "qoute" that source or can you summarize and/or provide additional information? ChuckiholmesChuckieholmes (talk) 02:10, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

No you do not have to quote the site. You are saying the citation is the source for your information. What you say should be in your own words and should not say more that the reference says.... Regards, Ariconte (talk) 03:43, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

How to start editing existing article on Income Drawdown?

I've noticed that the Income Drawdown page has some outdated information on it - information and references that relate to 2012 rather than the current tax year. I particularly want to update it to reflect the March 2013 Budget changes to the capped drawdown income limits (now 120% of the single life annuity that a person of the same age could purchase based on Government Actuary’s Department rates rather than 100% as the article currently states) but I'm not sure where to start.

There is reference information on the HMRC website and on The Pensions Advisory Service website and there is an article about the implications of the changes on the FT Adviser website but other than that I haven't been able to find much detail in the national press - just this from the BBC and this from the Telegraph - and I don't want to make changes to the content without 'suitable' sources.

I'm also not sure if I should make reference to the fact that the limit has recently changed from 100% to 120% or just replace the content that is already there.

How can I find someone to guide me through this? There is nothing on that article's talk page at the moment...should I just be posting my comments there instead of here and wait see if anyone responds? I really don't want to get it wrong but I want the article to be right!Ctrlaultdelete (talk) 23:44, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is not focused on current events nor is it a how-to guide. Income drawdown does indeed need to be rewritten, not to convert it to the current tax year but to make it about the concept rather than about a particular tax year. Content could include the history of income drawdown, political debates over it, international parallels, enforcement actions, significant court rulings, etc. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I think I see. I was looking at the current references used within the article (mostly old HMRC manual pages) and was trying to work out the best way to 'update' them but your point (if I'm right) is that perhaps some of the numbers need to be taken out altogether and the article made more general.

So changing:

"The new maximum amount of income that may be drawn is 100% of the single life annuity that a person of the same gender and age could purchase based on Government Actuary’s Department rates"

to something like:

"The maximum amount of income that may be drawn is linked to the single life annuity that a person of the same age could purchase based on Government Actuary’s Department rates"

Is that right? Or still too specific? Ctrlaultdelete (talk) 00:40, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Non admin checkuser

Do we have any non admin check-user? Reading from WP:CHK- Checkusers are not required to be administrators (although all or most CheckUser members are also administrators)! --Tito Dutta (contact) 22:12, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey Titodutta. All of the members of the English Wikipedia's CheckUser team are currently administrators. See Special:Listusers/checkuser. This may not be true for CheckUsers on other Wikipedias and Wikimedia projects. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Tito Dutta! I'm not sure but you may want to ask at Wikipedia_talk:Checkuser. Thanks nerd fighter 22:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Sending thanks to an editor.

I had a query the other day which was causing me some distress. I would just like to thank User Technical 13 for being so patient and for making me feel like I wasn't communicating with Robots. That has not always been my experience of Wikipedia to be honest. Technical 13 you have restored my faith in the community of contributors. We can't all be brilliant with technical stuff and it is great not to come away feeling foolish for once. 77.98.160.136 (talk) 21:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey 77.98.160.136!, Because Technical 13 edits here, he might or might not stumble upon this post without any prompting. But you can thank him directly by going to his talk page at User talk:Technical 13. In fact, if you wanted to, you could give him some kind of appreciation award. You can find various types at Wikipedia:Awards. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad I was able to offer you a positive experience and my account is set to accept WP:WikiLove. Happy editing!

Technical 13 (talk) 22:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Small template problem

I am frustrated at my inability to remove the "Performance" subheading from the Specifications section here. Could someone tell me what's wrong? Thank you! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Addressed. Thanks! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 21:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Can anyone make a page?

I have no idea so please help! 99.136.226.36 (talk) 20:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Hi! In order to create an article directly You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. As an anonymous user you can still submit an article but indirectly, through the articles for creation process. This might be the best way to create it even if you do register. In either case, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

As for the writing, please see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article if you register. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:50, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Why is there no page for the band Bloom?!

Hmmmm 99.136.226.36 (talk) 19:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, 99, and welcome to The Teahouse. Read WP:BAND and see if you think the band qualifies, as it must be notable to have a Wikipedia article. If Bloom does qualify, you could write about them yourself through WP:Articles for creation, which would require you to create an account. Or you could get someone else to write about the band through WP:Requested articles.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I just noticed you asked another question. Follow the advice in the response.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

There was an article about the band but it was deleted in 2011 because as written it failed to establish the band's notability. If you are thinking of having a further try I'd really suggest that you read the notability guidelines first and assure yourself that you can support the article with reliable sources and that they meet one of more of the notability crtieria. NtheP (talk) 21:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Sock puppet

I've been accused of being a sock puppet. What the hell is a sock puppet? And what does this mean? Ministar Nesigurnosti (talk) 17:47, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

"The use of multiple Wikipedia user accounts for an improper purpose is called sock puppetry"- that's what I saw on the article Sock Puppet. I had no idea what it meant but I hope I helped. Haneen Khan (talk) 17:55, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ministar Nesigurnosti! A sockpuppet is a username being used by someone who was blocked from editing for any reason. I see that you are suspected of being a sockpuppet of Iaaasi. This means that you are probably editing pages similarly to how the user Iaaasi would edit. This means that your username will be submitted to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations, and you will be checked by a special group of users who can see if you are, indeed, a sockpuppet. If you're not, you should have nothing to fear. Happy editing! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 17:55, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Ministar, ignore the accusation. A bit of checking showed that the person who made the postings on your user and talk pages is themselves a sockpuppet and they have been blocked. The notices have been removed from your pages. NtheP (talk) 20:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, thank you all, Nthep, Bramblerry and Haneen Khan! Ministar Nesigurnosti (talk) 22:58, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Teahouse Talkback Template

Is the template is in problem? I have an example example.--Pratyya ^(Hello!) 14:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Pratyya! I think I see the problem: the template doesn't have the brackets to link. I'm pretty sure I can figure this out, but if not I'm sure that one of the more coding-oriented hosts can do it. Happy editing! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 14:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, as suspected, this is too crazy, not to mention it's indefinitely-protected, and I am not an administrator. I'll bring the issue up at the host lounge and see who can fix it. Until then, I'll just be manually tweaking it. Happy editing! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 14:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Wait wait, I see the problem. It comes up with a pipe character (|) instead of a pound sign (#) to link to the section, which is throwing everything off. I'll put in an edit request. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 15:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm working on it in its sandbox. You may view the progress on the Test cases page. Technical 13 (talk) 15:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I've answered the edit request and fixed the issue. Thanks guys. Chamal ^T•C 15:40, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

A. U. C. 700 ?

Do you recognize the above Roman date as such. That year occurred early in the Roman conquest of Britain. I suggest that authors will use Roman dates when they are available for that time period. Our Christian calendar is thoght to be in error, perhaps by as much as eight years. RCNesland (talk) 04:37, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

The Manual of Style agrees with you in this respect: "Dates for Roman history before 45 BC are given in the Roman calendar, which was neither Julian nor Gregorian. When (rarely) the Julian equivalent is certain, it may be included." —Strachkvas (talk) 06:44, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Asante Africa Foundation Article

I created the Asante Africa Foundation article, which was approved for submission but I cannot find it on Wikipedia. Please advise on what to do (Afrisante (talk) 23:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

It takes a little while for a new page to show up on Wikipedia's search function. Your page can be found at Asante Africa Foundation. —Strachkvas (talk) 06:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

First-time user updating my company's profile, have I done it correctly?

My name is Craig Johntson and I work for a company called Standard Life. I have made some small additions to our company's wikipedia page today and wanted to know how I can check with the community that the changes that have been made are okay. In the past there have been people within the company who have tried to update the page without using any references and therefore the updates were removed. Just wanted to check that as a first time user the content I put up there is correctly referenced. Our company page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Life.

Kind regards,

CraigCraigj77 (talk) 17:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I've fixed your management list to look like a list and one of them even has their own wikipage, which it is now linked to. Other than that (and a shortage of references in some sections) it looks fine to me. Technical 13 (talk) 18:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Craig, you should probably disclose your COI on your user page. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 18:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree with that as well... Simply prepend {{COI}} to the top of the page. Technical 13 (talk) 18:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

That's not a user page template. I don't think there is one for that (yet).--ukexpat (talk) 19:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Standard Life isn't a user page. Oh... I misread you... The {{COI|date=April 2013}} should be prepended to the top of Standard Life... {{Connected contributor|Craigj77|Standard Life|editedhere=yes|declared=yes}} should be prepended to the top of Talk:Standard Life... Hope that clears it up... I suppose it wouldn't hurt to make up a template a user can put on their page saying they have edited certain articles and they want to disclose a possible COI... I'll work up a draft template for this soon and see how people like it. Technical 13 (talk) 20:00, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi guys, thanks you very much for your help, will get the COI added. Cheers, CraigCraigj77 (talk) 16:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Cookies

		Cookies!
		Keithbob has given you some cookies! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else some cookies, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookies}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

Thank you to all the wonderful people and valuable help that is found here at Teahouse!! — Keithbob • Talk • 17:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Like Chamal ^T•C 17:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

PS: sorry bout my formatting error, I had a bit of difficulty with the template :-( -- — Keithbob • Talk • 13:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Any skins with large print?

I was using the Chick skin for viewing and editing WP. But that skin and others are being eliminated beginning April 15th. The four remaining skins Vector, Mono, Modern and Cologne Blue all have very small print. Is there any way to userfy my account to create larger type? Thanks in advance! — Keithbob • Talk • 15:37, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse, Keithbob! Unfortunately, there is no way in "Preferences" to have large print for all text. However, if you go to "Gadgets" and then "Appearance", you will find an option seven from the bottom that says "Disable smaller font sizes of elements such as infoboxes, navboxes, and reference lists." Once you do that, all you can do to make large print is magnify the zoom. Happy editing! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 15:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Keithbob, you can change the font sizes (among other visual aspects) by editing your common.css page (or the corresponding style page for your skin), which will override the default CSS values. However, this can involve quite a bit of work, depending on how much you want to change. Most modern browsers allow you to change the font size, so I think it might be easier than editing CSS pages. If you want to do it though, you can read Help:User style for some help and tips. Chamal ^T•C 16:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Keithbob, if you ask your question at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), I'm pretty certain someone there can help you tweak your common.css to get you the end result you want. NtheP (talk) 16:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Keithbob, I'd be happy to try and help you tweak your css for a larger font. Technical 13 (talk) 16:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Boy you folks are good :-) Fast and reliable..... Go Teahouse!! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:34, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey Keithbob, If you want to change the font size then you could add this code to your personal css page. #mw-content-text {font-size:110%} Of course you can change the size to your personal taste. Cheers --Ushau97 ^talk 16:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh thank you, that was so easy and so helpful!!! :-) -- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I was looking the the element and class name and was going to suggest nearly the same thing with #mw-content-text {font-size: larger;}... Ushau97 beat me to it... Technical 13 (talk) 17:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Tech13 !!!! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 13:11, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

numbers

Hi, Thanks for volunteering. My question,what is the definition of the word integer. Is it basically any whole number? Gerri (74.109.13.214 (talk) 02:03, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Gerri and welcome to the Teahouse. This is an interesting question, one that we usually don't get. Basing this on my personal knowledge, I believe an integer is any number that can be written without a fraction or decimal component. So yes, all whole numbers are integers. I am sure we have an article on it. Probably Integer. Go Phightins! 02:09, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. To define it,

Hope this helped.

Cheers,

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 05:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

how can 0 be a whole number? Its an integer for the sake of calculation and referencing, but I thought, could be wrong here, it was not considered whole as diving by 0 is a no no....Anyone?Coal town guy (talk) 13:09, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

All natural numbers (1,2,3..) are Whole numbers (0,1,2,3...) and all Whole numbers are Integers (...-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3...).

Also, an integer is one which can be divided by 1, not vice versa. So while 1/0 is not defined, 0/1=0 and hence 0 is considered an integer. Since all non-negative integers are also whole numbers, it is also a whole number.

Does that clear it up?

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Perfection. I was recalling a symbolic logic argument and for some odd reason, I saw that post and BAM. VERY much appreciate it. Although, technically 0 should not be anything...as it were....Coal town guy (talk) 20:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

The reason there are three different categories than just one is because of how numbers have evolved through the ages. First there were only the Natural numbers (The Romans certainly didn't need 0), but then somebody thought up of 0 (Sources diagree on who that was), making them Whole numbers. And finally someone else thinks of negative numbers later, making them all into integers.

Long story short - Had we thought of all the integers from the start, we wouldn't be needing a "Whole Number"/"Natural Number" distinction.

Also, please use a TB or else i might not see your reply :)

Cheers, and happy to help!

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

TB? AND many thanks for the answer. Millions of years ago, I actually enjoyed mathematics....Coal town guy (talk) 14:20, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

TB is short for talkback. Which is the script I just left on your user page to inform you that you had a reply on this thread. Its usually better to leave a TB at the user's talk page to make sure they read your reply.

You can use the talkback by either selecting the TB option (if you are using Twinkle) and sending a standard talkback; or just click on TB beside my signature (Only if you have teahouse scripts enabled) to send a Teahouse talkback.

And I still am very much in love with Mathematics :) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps the mathematics reference desk may be a better place for this question. Chamal ^T•C 14:27, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Or integer even.--ukexpat (talk) 16:50, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Use of Hyperbole

I am in discussion with another user over the use of hyperbole in an article. My position is that while a claim might be referenced, if it is clearly use of hyperbole it should be deleted. Flatoitlikealizarddrinking (talk) 04:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Flatoitlikealizarddrinking, and welcome to the teahouse! Thank you for letting us know about your position. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 05:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I am following the article that I think that you are talking about, Roy Maloy. There is an ongoing dispute between his promoters who see him as a truly great Australian circus performer, and those who see him as a shameless self-promoter. If a reliable source uses such a clearly promotional title, then it should not be given undue weight in the article and reported in Wikipedia's voice. Not "Roy Maloy is the greatest whatever", but rather, "Australian provincial newspaper XXX said that Roy Maloy is 'Australia's best known stilt walker'." or whatever. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources. On the other hand, we don't downgrade the claims that reliable sources make. Finding the proper balance is the ongoing challenge, and the input of editors without "a dog in the hunt" is useful in such cases. That is what I am trying to do here, and the input of other disinterested editors is welcomed. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

bullet list in a reference?

I have a website referenced in an article. I have a list of links praising the website. I want to list those links under the section "Reference List," but just as a kind of bulleted list below the website ref. (Then the rest of the references in the article are done the usual way using the citation template fields.)

Maybe it can't be done, but wondering.

Thanks.

Reginac7 (talk) 18:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Reginac, welcome back. It can be done but why would you want to? From what you've described it sounds to me like you are trying to establish the website as a reliable source for the article, which makes me suspect that it isn't. Can you tell us which article and which website you are talking about so we can establish the context here? NtheP (talk) 19:02, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi--

It isn't mine. I received it and was trying to help someone, but I would say you are right--they really have to make each citation in the sub list they created stand on its own or else alter the context/content in the main article. But Wikipedia is like a wonderful puzzle with many things that can be solved and I thought this might have a precedent. Thanks for answering so fast!

Reginac7 (talk) 19:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh--btw--if it can be done--how, then? For what purpose was the process configured, then? Cool to know there is something, even so. I am not an expert in HTML logic, but it sure is fascinating.

Reginac7 (talk) 19:10, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Seconding that the purpose sounds dubious but as to the mechanics, to make such a bulleted list you could go to citation the "list" was to appear after and add at its end but inside the closing </ref> tag, the following:

<p>{{*}}first list item<p>{{*}}second list item<p>{{*}}third list item<p>{{*}}fourth list item . . .</ref>

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:21, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Trying to write an article, pleasd help

Hello All,

Im new to Wikipedia and trying to write an article on a professional Muay Thai and MMA fighter, Chris Clodfelter. I have have different websites, pics, and pages to verify content but it keeps getting deleted. Would it be easy to have another editor with more expierence write it. Thank you for the help.Kingjedi1 (talk) 18:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse! You can put in a request at WP:Requested articles and someone else can write it. Also, you can submit it at WP:Articles for creation. Good luck with the article!

^King Jakob _C2 18:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Do be aware that articles requested through Requested Article may take several years to be written - or maybe never get written at all! If you have enough reliable and independent sources to enable someone to write it at requested articles, you could write it at Articles for Creation yourself. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 05:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

How to find my Teahouse profile?

How do I find my Teahouse profile? I can't seem to find it. On the other hand, I don't know who to look... --XndrK (talk) 17:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi XndrK, welcome to the Teahouse and thanks for making a profile! Yours lives here for now, if you want to change anything, do that on that page. But it shows up on the Guest page if you scroll to the bottom. Hope that helps! heather walls (talk) 18:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Lost the notes from teahouse editors.....

Hi Friends - Am back at my laptop this weekend trying to add copyright info for the photos uploaded to my aunt's page [Leonora Armstrong]. There were several notes left for me on how to add notes to the page stating the copyright was held by myself. Am unable to find all the suggestions, and honestly do not understand where the citation code goes on the page...and my seven days are running out. Many thanks for being coached on this one. :-) KristineKasuncion (talk) 17:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I think the conversation you are looking for is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_93#copyright_tagging_of_photos Regards, Ariconte (talk) 20:24, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Source format

Is there a specific format to use when referencing a source from a newspaper as opposed to a website ei; ref tags? title? FOX 52 (talk) 15:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. {{Cite news}} template is specially designed for citing news articles in print, video, audio or web. Happy editing! --Ushau97 (talk) 16:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Beaten down and confused about posting images to Wikipedia

I'm working on an article on Burton Jastram, an Olympic Gold Medalist in 1932. Attempting to upload photos to the article has felt like running the gauntlet. I'm bloodied and confused.

The photo that I did manage to upload is a college yearbook pic from 1932 which I found during a genealogical search on ancestry.com. I called the company directly to ask about the availability of the use of the photo. The employee went to the manager and got back to me stating that the photos from their yearbook areas were public domain and free to use.

When I tried to mark the appropriate sections during the uploading third degree, submenus would pop up asking for copies of licenses and other impossible-to-obtain items, before it would allow me to complete the process (I somehow got the yearbook photo through, but with warnings that it might be taken down if I didn't provide the appropriate whatever). I tried to explain the series of events with ancestry and begged whomever not to take the photo down since it was public domain. That's when I got this invitation to the Teahouse (thank you whoever is that guardian angel).

I have other photos provided to me by Burt's daughter--a photo ID from Burt's Olympic ID card in 1932, photos of he and his oarsmen, photos from newspaper articles credited to Associated Press and other outfits from '32 etc.

Shall I just forget about uploading any additional photos that I think will help flesh out the article or continue to attempt to run the gauntlet without getting terminally whacked? Who would own these private collection pictures other than Burt's daughter, who would gladly give permission to use them on Wiki?

Thanks for your help!

Elleanee (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Elleanee, welcome to the Teahouse. Don't get discouraged, I know it can be a bit of a minefield but it's all about making sure that Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons are not committing breaches of copyright. The yearbook first, what we're interested in is whether copyright was claimed on it when it was published. I guess it wasn't (or even if it was the copyright wasn't renewed), in which case the staff at Ancestry are right and due to it's age it is in the public domain. If this is the case then go to the image you uploaded to Commons Commons:File:Burt Jastram UC Berkeley Yearbook Photo, 1032.png and under the licence section add {{PD-US-no notice}} to show it was a work published in the US between 1923 and 1977 without a copyright.

The newspaper articles may well be still in copyright and will remain so until 95 years after publication. You would have to check with the US Copyright Office to see if the newspapers did renew the copyright - if not then they will be public domain, but the onus is on you to establish this.

The Olympic ID card is an interesting one, in the legal sense it's unlikely to be a published work so it won't be in the public domain for quite some time (2053 to be precise) however it's probably the property of the IOC who might grant permission for publication, again you'd have to ask. NtheP (talk) 16:55, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

NtheP, thank you so very much for your comprehensive response to my image conundrum. I now have my work set out for me. As they say in Texas, "Bless yer heart!"

Elleanee (talk) 17:09, 6 April 2013 (UTC)ElleaneeElleanee (talk) 17:09, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Adding a language to existing entry

Dear colleagues how do I add another entry in a different language to an entry that have already been accepted?Ori.ravenna (talk) 09:25, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Ori. An entry in a different language will be in a different Wikipedia: you will need to write the article in that other Wikipedia according to its rules (which may not be quite the same as the English Wikipedia).

If you mean that there is already a corresponding article in a different language Wikipedia which you want to link to, you now do this in the new project Wikidate. Please see Help:Interlanguage links. --ColinFine (talk) 11:10, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I think that Colin intended to say Wikidata, not Wikidate. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:14, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

name signature

Hey there again wikipedians!

well I just wanted to know how you could make a permanent name signature. Thanks in advance

Haneen Khan (talk) 09:14, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Haneen. Have a look at WP:SIGNATURE. --ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks colinfine. Haneen Khan (talk) 12:51, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

How can I post a picture on an article?

I just created my wiki account today, and i wanna know how to post a picture. ive read to click on the upload the file but i cant find the button! can somebody help! Pk10534 (talk) 02:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)pk10534Pk10534 (talk) 02:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome! On the left side, under the toolbox, click on "Upload file". Can you tell me anything about the image you want to upload? Is it your own work? I can help you if you need any help. Thanks! ~~JHUbal27 02:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi there PK! You will have to be WP:AUTOCONFIRMED before you can upload images, so at the earliest you will be able to do it tomorrow. Just keep editing, perhaps fix some typos, and once you've reached enough edits and the account is old enough you should have no problem uploading. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Good point Crisco! I forgot about that. ~~JHUbal27 02:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

However, if the image you want to upload is in the public domain or bears a free license compatible with ours, it's better to upload it to the Wikimedia Commons rather than here so all Wikimedia projects can use it. Once uploaded there, it can be used here natively with the same image markup. The Commons does not have an autoconfirmed wait time for uploads. You can sign up here. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:34, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Editing by Wikipedians ... How much power should be granted to unknown individuals?

Perhaps that's not quite the correct summary. Today I had a well researched and referenced Article for Submission, the biography of a living composer, DECLINED - for the third time. However, this time, there is no comment other than the standard "Notability" is not met. The article in question cites multiple sources, verified by me, ( some even including ISBN ) substantiating the notability of this person. I am nonplussed.

I have edited the content of other biographical material on other living musicians. I always contact the person directly and include my changes requesting verification by that living individual. That seems to me to be the most accurate and respectful way to proceed; particularly in light of past errors made by Wikipedians.

Is it possibly too much to ask that contributors to Wikipedia be given the same scrutiny as living individuals whose biographical information is submitted for inclusion. Considering past misrepresentations and blunders, it seem like a good idea - to me personally.Final4one (talk) 18:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Which article? Technical 13 (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Robert Lombardo. NtheP (talk) 19:40, 5 April 2013 (UTC

Hi Final4one, welcome to the Teahouse. Sorry you're frustrated, I do understand. I looked at the Article Submission and I have to agree with the editors who reviewed it - there's not enough substantiation provided yet to show the composer meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline, or the specific Wikipedia:MUSIC#Criteria_for_composers_and_lyricists. This isn't a matter of Wikipedia "granting power" indiscriminately, but rather Wikipedia has evolved standards for notability over time, and several experienced editors have evaluated the article against those standards, and have come to the conclusion that the notability requirements have not been met yet. I hope this doesn't discourage you, your best option would be to read the guideline carefully and ask the reviewers for more guidance on how to find sourcing to demonstrate notability, or find article subjects that will pass notability requirements. Zad68 19:52, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, Zad, thank you for your response. I too have read the notability guidelines, many times, and still fail to see how the article for submission on this composer fails to meet them. I have requested and received "guidance" from previous reviewers and responded specifically to their suggestions.

This does discourage me. It is incredulous to me that Wiki reviewers find the Bienen School of Music at Northwestern University and the Library of Congress, as well as three writers covering contemporary American composers, to be poor judges of what constitutes a notable contribution to music composition.Final4one (talk) 02:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

welcome to wikipedia:systemic bias. living composers are notoriously difficult to survive an wp:articles for deletion discussion. the music biog. dictionaries are not online, (but should still count as a reliable source under WP:COMPOSER No. 6). i see he has a finding aid at northwestern [1], let me see if i can present the information in a keep friendly format. Slowking4^{Farmbrough's revenge}⇔ †@1₭ 12:34, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

What happens in the case of new movements which do not have written references?

My article on "Kimono Jacks" is awaiting review. It does not have written references because nobody has written about these events yet. (Except for me, in my as yet unpublished PhD thesis.) The movement is, however, easily verifiable through all the websites and links posted. Will it automatically be rejected, or will can it be posted and have references added as people begin to write about the movement in written documents? Thank you for your help, Dr. Kimono. Dr.Kimono (talk) 13:49, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

You see your article lacks reference. But that is not only the problem. Your article doesn't suit Wikipedia. See this article for example. Hope this helps you.--Pratyya ^(Hello!) 13:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

If there are no sources there can be no article. However if the websites you mention do qualify as secondary reliable sources they can be used to write an article. A web page is also a written document. If the websites are created by people closely involved with the subject then they cannot be used. Roger (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

It does not make any difference whether references are on paper or on the web, the important thing is whether they are regarded as reliable, and (to establish notability) whether they are independent of the subject. Existence is not enough for a subject to appear in an enyclopaedia: we require that the subject has been noticed (written about) by several reliable independent sources. New items (organisations, films, games, authors etc) often do not meet these criteria at first, in which case they may not (yet) have a Wikipedia article about them. --ColinFine (talk) 20:14, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Colin. It may not qualify yet, then. I will wait and see. I think it is becoming bigger, so people are going to be writing about it in the future. As it is on Japanese wiki, and it now has more groups abroad than in Japan, I do think that it is relevant, but if it is not posted now, I will keep adding to it, as things progress. Thank you for your help.

110.132.166.155 (talk) 13:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

auto-speedy deletions

Hi I read about this new technology on the web (recyclebots)-- tried to look it up in wikipedia and it was not there so I thought I would start a page -- I was familiar with wikipedia editing from before when we did it in school awhile back - so knew about licenses. I pulled text from two wikis with compatible licenses -- cleaned it up and then went away from my computer for a few hours. When I got back it had been marked for speedy deletion because of G12 and G11- and already deleted before I could do anything. I tried following the multiple paths in the messages on my talk page to reinstate it - the editors or bots took it out and then took out my arguments for it as well -- without responding. The only thing still pending is this (I think) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#RecycleBot I'll be honest this is a little bit frustrating as I spent a good bit of time on it and I know this is why a lot of people dont bother editing because new stuff gets smashed. I am pretty sure I could fix anything that was promotional or was a copyright vio -- but I dont even think there were any-- that said I can't find a way to get to the original text to read through it carefully anyway. What should I do?

Thanks __Recyclebotboy (talk) 02:02, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Recyclebotboy. I've restored the page and left you a note about it on your userpage. Sorry it's taken so long for someone to respond to you here - we're usually a bit quicker than that! Yunshui 雲‍水 09:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I wish I would have been notified about this discussion. Text was taken verbatim from this copyrighted source. At some point, a few words were changed in what I assume was a good faith attempt to avoid a copyright violation. I think the best result would have been to userfy the article until the user could have addressed the issues with help. But hey, we can pretend I'm some sort of hateful "auto" deletionist instead of a person attempting to take a small chunk out of the 30+ day new article backlog. OlYeller21^Talktome 16:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Which article appears in the most Wikipedias? (different languages)

I have wondered for a long time what articles appear in the most different language Wikipedias. I cannot find the answer or in fact even the question searching on Google or Wikipedia; without checking many articles and counting languages myself I do not know how to find out. Also, although a one word/article answer would be interesting and appreciated, is there any page or software which lists or can list the top 100 articles that appear in the highest number of different language Wikipedias (or top whatever number not specifically 100). I am interested to know about many articles which appear in a high number of languages not just a one word answer. Thank you in advance for any input. Carlwev (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Interlink language translations

A separate but linked question, to my previous one. I am interested to know what normally happens when, articles from different language Wikipedias are linked to each other, but there is not an exact translation. Like Blue and Green and Distinction of blue and green in various languages. Presuming the Vietnamese Wikipedia has an article on the Vietnamese color term "xanh" (both leaves and the sky are this color), would this article interlink to English blue or green or some how both or somewhere else. "Toska" a Russian word with no exact meaning, a kind of anguish, longing, yearning, boredom, ache. If the Russian Wikipedia contains an article on this word, where does it interlink into the English Wikipedia. I imagine these are some of many translating problems. It would be interesting to know which articles names' are notoriously difficult to language link because of translating problems. Are there any more colors, emotions, conditions, topics, terms or other words that foreign words (and articles) exist for but are not present in English, or that exist in English but almost nowhere else, or where 2 words both translate to one word (green, blue and "xanh") and what solutions if any people have come up with when creating and linking articles in other languages. Words such as ones listed here come to mind [2] Can one article link to many or many to one across the language links? Thank you in advance for any input, if this has been discussed at length before point me to the page, I couldn't find it. And sorry for the inability to ask short questions. Carlwev (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of my Edit

Some materials I giving in a page of url http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimpith but someone continue deleting the content.As they said the content is copyright protected.Now Let me tell the real event. I have given some content from the Page http://nimpith.webs.com/ or http://ahalder.webs.com/ sometimes shared a link from those pages and the pages are fully controlled by me and the content belongs to there is fully created by me. Then where is the copyright issue? As I giving my material and I better know how far I can share my belonging.Please suggest a way how should this anonymous deletion process can be stopped. Arijit109 (talk) 02:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Did you read the link on your talk page telling you about donating copyrighted materials? Have you been through the steps defined there? - David Biddulph (talk) 03:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I am not giving the full content.I just giving the url to get the content.Arijit109 (talk) 03:38, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can see from the article history for Nimpith, there is no mention of copyright violation there. The copyright concerns were raised with respect to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nimpith. If you have questions with regard to particular edits on Nimpith you should raise them at the article talk page, or on the talk page of the editor who made the change. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Translating Articles

would be helpful if i translate articles?, there are many of them in english that are extensive, but that same article in spanish is a little poor, ex: DiGeorge Syndrome.Alex's phone (talk) 02:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Alex's phone, and welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse! That would indeed be helpful and it would be great if you can do it. It seems you want to translate English Wikipedia articles to other languages, so take a look at Wikipedia:Translate us. Chamal ^T•C 02:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Interview as source!

In an article I have noticed, the information is highly depending on subject's interviews! Is there any policy or something on citing interview? Ref: Talk:Parineeti Chopra/GA2 (though I have mentioned it still) Tito Dutta (contact) 23:12, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

That's not a problem as long as the sources are reliable. We even have a {{cite interview}} template. Interviews are not the best sources for controversial information since they represent the personal views of one person, but I certainly don't see a problem with using them as sources for things like their personal details. In that respect, interviews could be treated quite similar to self-published sources, IMO. Chamal ^T•C 00:19, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Image

I Just joined yesterday, I would like to insert beautiful pictures of Clark University. These pictures are my pictures, how do I insert them? A step by step would be helpful. Thanks.Theking16060 (talk) 19:22, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi King. First you want to go to the Upload Wizard on Wikimedia Commons. Once registered, press the button on this page to upload a file, and it should take you through the steps, such as adding a brief description and marking it as your own work. Then, to place the image into a page on Wikipedia, use [[File:YOURFILENAMEHERE.jpg | thumb | CAPTIONHERE]]. Sort of a brief explanation for a complicated topic, so let me know if you hit any snags along the way. —Strachkvas (talk) 22:51, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

images captured

i had uploaded two photos in an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitesh_Narayan_Rane which i have personally captured on camera but a wikipedia editor deleted them using "twinkle" because he thought it was copyright violation. the photos are previously posted on social networking website too. i had added the copyright tag to those images, now what can i do to re-add those images? Vikas.pawar05 (talk) 19:18, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Vikas, welcome to the Teahouse. Both images were deleted from Wikimedia Commons as copyright violations but you appear to have re-uploaded at least of one of them at commons:File:Ranenitesh.jpg. The instructions on what you need to do are there but you need to prove to Wikimedia that you took the photograph. There is a natural suspicion (born out of experience) that a lot of images posted as people's own work are in fact copyright violations off the internet, hence the need for you to establish that you are the copyright owner of the photographs. I would point out that the article on Rane already contains a good quality image of him so there isn't much need for several others of him that are of a similar age unless they help with the understanding of him. NtheP (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

video

is there a procedure to add video in an article?? Aniketp007 (talk) 10:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. You can find information here and here. Frigid Ninja 12:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

about locked pages

i'm new to wikipedia, i would like to ask about protected pages, there are some pages that doesn't have "edit" option. why does wikipedia provides protection to specific articles?? there are some controversial individuals whose articles are locked,no one can add info to those articles. Aniketp007 (talk) 09:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You'll find the information at Wikipedia:Protection policy. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:47, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Aniketp007. There are a number of reasons for protecting a page, and you can find out about them from the link David has given. If you want to make an edit to a protected article, post your suggested edit on the article talk page with either the {{edit semi-protected}} or {{edit protected}} template (depending on the protection level of the article), and someone will come along and help you with it. Chamal ^T•C 14:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

why the 'undo'

went to the movie 'Killer Dill' just to get an idea of what it was about...the Plot Summary was blank...watched the movie...entered a plot summary...and a day or two later it was 'undone' by another editor claiming to be a watchdog for Wikipedia...couldn't find the reason...if I did something wrong, then okay....but there should have been a reason given (unless it simply was the case that I didn't know where to look)...I thought I was being helpful and added the summary in good faith...I'm willing to put in some effort to get it right, but if it's the nature of the beast to be disappointed with things that are simply one person's opinion, then I'd just as soon spend my time with other things...chuckieholmesChuckieholmes (talk) 01:09, 6 April 2013 (UTC) Chuckieholmes (talk) 00:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

How to use RefTools.

Hi, Chuckie Holmes. Welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse. It looks like a member of the Recent changes patrol used an automated tool to revert your edit. Although s/he didn't leave a very good explanation, the reason will be that you didn't cite a reliable source from which you derived your edit. Wikipedia prohibits original research. We can only add information that is created by others. Try Googling "Killer Dill" reviews and look for some in magazines or newspapers like this review in the New York Times. IMDb isn't considered a reliable source because so much of it is uploaded by users and not subject to oversight to be sure it is factual.

When you add your edit, be sure to cite the source. The easy way is to use the RefTools templates. Click the Full screen button in the lower right of the box at the right so you can see everything in the 6 minute video. It takes a bit of time to learn the ins and outs of Wikipedia but you'll soon know everything you need to be productive. Hope this helps, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 01:57, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi there Chuckie, the issue is not that the summary was given without footnotes (doc, there is an exception for plot summaries; even featured articles like ? don't have footnotes for the plot summary) but that your language was not encyclopedic. Questions like "Does he ever see the $867.07 owed to him by his friend Will?" are not encyclopedic, even for a plot summary. Perhaps you may want to consult some quality film articles to get an idea on how to write a summary on Wikipedia. I suggest Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI, Up, and Jaws. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:15, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

There's also a useful essay, Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary. Deor (talk) 10:03, 7 April 2013 (UTC)