Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/Jun 2006

sound files?

How do I upload and use sound files? Also, if anyone can explain how to create them on a Windows XP system that would be helpful (I have the hardware but have never used it). Ideogram 02:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Media#Audio gives some general information on uploading audio files, and Wikipedia:Media help (Ogg) gives you lots of detailed information. For specific questions, you are probably best off asking at the talk page of the latter article, as they will know lots about it. -- Natalya 10:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Core Warrior Values

I am new. Yes. But I am confused. I was looking for what 'core warrior values' means. But I can't find anything. Once I find out how to search and ad, I will have alot more to ad. Regards.

Wikipedia doesn't have an article on "core warrior values," and I'm not sure what you mean. Can you give us a little context? Did you find the phrase "core warrior values" in a book or on a web page or something? --TantalumTelluride 20:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict): :Hi Margaret, I just went through your edit to the above mentioned article. I think, use of a word such as "cretin" is rather uncalled for. As for the comment about the software taking up lot of bandwidth etc, please see WP:V. Anything that we claim here must be verifiable through other respected sources and not just someone's point of view. If you feel you can substantiate what you write, please mention so along with the source on the article's talk page, which is used for discussions about the article. Needless to say, dont let it deter you from contributing to Wikipedia -- Lost 11:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It's been on the news lately - after the events at Haditha in Iraq, the US military is running courses to try and instill 'core warrior values' into its troops. However, the best place to ask about this would be the Reference Desk, that's where all the polymaths who know everything hang out. — QuantumEleven 07:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Make a Table

How do I make a table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hawaiianchief (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia:How to use tables and Help:Table should have all the information you need. -- Natalya 10:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Self citation admitted?

Hello... my question is the next, i have written several articles and in some of them to show results are real and testeable i have used "auto-citation" from articles published by myself at arxiv.org including references..is that fair according to Wikipedia policy or an author can be considered to put himself as a reference?..let,s say the example..i edit the article "renormalization", including some of examples added in a pre-print at arxiv.org after that i include the reference * Garcia J.J Renormalization at..... http://www.arxiv.org/math/xxxxx (paper number) is this acceptable?

There is a section on expert editors which will help you. The key point is: "If an expert editor has published the results of his or her research elsewhere, in a reputable publication, the editor can cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our NPOV policy". If you want to be on the safe side, put it on the talk page for another editor to post, or at least give an explanation on the talk page to draw other editors' attention to what you've written. Tyrenius 05:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Can you explain to me how to get awards.

The best way to get an award is to contribute to the encyclopedia and to the Wikipedia community that supports it. Any work that improves the quality of our articles is always welcome. You can fix spelling and grammar mistakes in existing articles, or you can even start a new article! It also helps to get involved behind the scenes a little bit. For example, you could participate in a wikiproject and sign up at a regional noticeboard. If you do good work, other Wikipedians will eventually give you awards. If you would like to give an award to someone else you've seen doing a great job, you can learn more at Wikipedia:Barnstars. I hope this helps. --TantalumTelluride 15:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Uploading of picture

I'm trying to upload a picture of myself. But I'm so confused about all of the licensing stuff. Can somebody help me?Hawaiianchief 03:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Try image licence tags and explanations, the tag you probably want is {{pd-self}} --GWatson • ^TALK 03:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Please note that this means you release the image into the public domain, so anyone can use it, including commercial use. There are slightly more restricted licences, such as the one on this image where you have to be credited as the author. Tyrenius 07:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Missing or Removed Image

I uploaded an image back on March 25, 2006 [1], but it is no longer there. It was never "referenced" by another page according to What links here, but it was referenced by Image:Mbna.PNG. At the time I couldn't figure out how to reference an image without having it automatically displayed in place. Is there anyway to find out what happened to the image I uploaded (i.e why it was removed)? Was it summarily deleted for lack of reference? Was it removed because of a copyright violation? Or something else altogether? Blove007 05:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

The most probably reason is that an editor thought it was obsolete, as there was a newer image. I can not find evidence besides that. I hope this helps. GWatson • ^TALK 05:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It was deleted, the log has the reason. Also, "What links here" probably doesn't work the way you think it does for images, to track image usage you use the "File links" section on the image page.--Commander Keane 09:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Finding my Page in Wiki Search

hi. i have created a page, uploaded a photo etc. it has been a week and when i put in to search it it doesn't show up. can you tell me what step i missed? i set all my settings. thanks. --Jimmie Sylvester 00:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, what page is this? I find nothing in your contributions -- 9cds^(talk) 00:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

It looks like the only page you've updated is your userpage, which can be found at User:Jimmie Sylvester. Not sure if you meant for it to be an actual article or not, but if you wanted it to be an actual article, please take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons to see if it is appropriate. Regardless, you are welcome to leave it on your userpage. -- Natalya 00:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

If you do think you are notable, I would reccomend reading Wikipedia style guides and the like. Also, it is generally not a good idea to write about yourself, since you are likely to be partial (not you specifically). Also, don't forget to cite your sources and maintain a neutral point of view about yourself in the main article. -- Chris ^Ccool2ax _contrib. 15:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Wiki-etiquette question

What steps can be taken to deal with a user who appears to have created an account for the purpose of flame-baiting and insults? The insults appear to be primarily "nazi" and "gestapo" name calling. I'm not sure if the person is a sock puppet of an already recognized problematic poster or not. I'd really rather not be drawn into something like this but I'd like to know if there is a mechanism for dealing with these types of problems. They don't seem to be as common a problem on the WP as they do elsewhere but I suppose no place is immune!

Any help would be appreciated.

DDugan 03:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

(opinion!) Unfortunately trolls exist (WP:TROLL), which I think (along with its sub-pages) will answer the question. We each kinda have to learn how to deal with them as best suits the individual editor. Try to hold to the Wikipedia:Writers' rules of engagement and within it, there are ways. in general, move the editing arguments from the stage of reverting each other, to the other editors talk page, to the articles talk page ... ect. If that fails, use a disputed tag ... the that fails, call for a third opinion ... if that fails, call for mediation .. if that fails, blocks start happening. It's a long road, but WP:CIVILITYand WP:5P, eventually wins ;) -- Or you can just ignore them as you aren't alone. -- ∞Wirelain 03:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I really didn't know where to look. I'm most likely to ignore this sort of thing but it helps to know the preferred processes. DDugan 04:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem ... thank you for not descending into edit wars and generally WP:DISRUPTing. -- ∞Wirelain 15:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Three simple questions..

1. Let's say the song "Aidepikiw" is released as a live single. But the studio version of "Aidepikiw" is not released as a single. If I want to create an article on the single released and there's already an article on the studio version of the song, do I make a new article or just edit the studio version?
2. Where's the best source to get song chart information? For example getting information on a song's chartings.
3. If in a song single article I include information on who plays the guitar solos, do I need to place a header for that? Or do I just put it in there. I did the latter but someone edited it and put a header. So I'm just a bit confused.

Thanks in advance. — Zee 11:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Without the actual example, it may be hard to give a good suggestion. However, since your questions are pretty specific, WikiProject Songs will probably be able to give you some good information. If not, people there would certainly know the specifics. -- Natalya 13:53, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

• Please remember to ask on the project talk page rather than the main project page. Cheers. — Estarriol ^talk 15:18, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

I understand how to use disambiguation pages, however if my topic is say Web Hosting Control Panel's and one has the name "Tequila" should i create a Tequila (Control Panel) page without a disambiguation page, or should I (which I dont know how to do) somehow edit the Tequila page (which brings you to the Tequila we all know and consume :D )

I guess my real question is, if I want to add a page so that when people search "Tequila" it will bring them to the disambiguation page, how would I go about doing that? It seems to be hardwired to go to a main Tequila page which should be Tequila (beverage)

Manny 18:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

You can put {{Otheruses}} at the top of Tequila. Create Tequila (disambiguation) because most people will probably be searching for the beverage. If you don't like the wording of that template, there are similar templates and instructions at Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Hope that helps! --Keitei (talk) 18:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

A clarification - when there are only two articles going by the same name, there is no need for a disambiguation page. All that needs to be done is to have disambiguation links at the top of each page. However, it appears that there are other articles that would be appropriate to add to Tequila (disambiguation), so having that page is okay (I will add the appropriate entries). Let me know if you need any other clarification. -- Natalya 18:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Paradoxography

I am attempting to contribute a brief article on paradoxography, a genre of classical literature dealing with wonders and natural prodigies of various sorts. Currently, paradoxography redirects to the 'paradox' article, which contains no information on the subject. How can I go about deleting the inappropriate redirect? --Cursitor 00:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Answering on their talk page. -Dan 14:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It would be a good idea to look at the 'Whatlinkshere' for paradoxography and make sure that nothing that should goto paradox will be going to paradoxography. -- ∞Wirelain 14:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Sound on XP

Ihave trouble on Microsoft XP, for no apperent reason I occsaionally lose the sound. and have to go to Systems restore to get it back , it stays for a few days then vanishes again. Any suggestions please

It may be your sound card malfunctioning. On Windows XP, try going to Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager and click on Sound, Video and Game Controllers. If there's an exclaimation mark in a yellow circle next to the icon of your sound card, then you may need to reinstall the software for it. I don't know if this will work, but give it a go. Andrew 21:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Transfer Edits?

Recently signed up for a user account. Is there any way of moving old edits from my IP page to my contributions page? Siraphec 08:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is the answer, but; If you want to keep the contributions from your old account for your new one, leave a note on Wikipedia:Changing username. This can only be done before you create the new one. If you wish to create a new username, please visit Wikipedia:Changing username for information. (from a template ... should at least visit that page and ask again there) -- ∞Wirelain 14:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

At this time, there is not a way of transferring edits from an IP to a user. I think devs have the ability to do so, but they really have more pressing things to work on. — TheKMan^talk 15:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Australia's Enquiry into the nuclear power option: Issues to be considered

I am considering creating a wiki on the above subject. There are quite a number of good articles already on Wikipedia discussing specific technologies. However the focus of this proposal would be to collect a comprehensive set of issues which need to be addressed by an equiry. The list would be in the form of a two dimensional matrix listing issues on one axis and the current status of that issue for each of the major energy technologies on the other.

Examples of issues include:

• R&D alread invested and sunk, unrecoverable, not charged to end customers.
• R&D issues known, expected expediture 90th percentile estimate of cost, likely cost to end user.
• Financing costs, lead times and impact on costs
• Probability that commercial risk will be converted to public risk
• Need to generate high levels of profitability for investors and operators of nuclear power plants to ensure that well paid interesting jobs are created which will attract the best minds to operate and maintain the plant and provide funding for the inevitable maintenance and upgrade works that will be required over the lifecycle of the plant, from design to decommissioning.
• Existing cross subsidies, eg public underwriting of insurance risk for the nuclear industry
• Externalities not at present charged to end customers eg absence of carbon taxes and emission charges.
• Impact of different options on transmission and distribution network investment and revenues.
• Impact of changing load profiles on the need for distributed local generation, such as gas turbine plant, which combined with seasonal and short term fluctuations in available renewable energy resources could reduce the need for more expensive energy storage teechnology.
• Making the load profile more sensitive to available energy resources again to alleviate the need for energy storage.
• Energy storage R&D requirements expected expenditure, 90th percentile of costs.

etc

The objectives include:

• Attract expert input to structure the issues in terms meaningful to experts and capable of generating explicit answers.
• Seeing if the developed wiki coud be introduced into the terms of the enquiry.
• Seeing if a coalition of interests could support the wiki and make it a key structure in the enquiry in such a way that a proper and comprehensive response to the issues listed against the various technologies could result in broad community and political support for a specific set of options and policies.

My personal opinion is that such a comprehensive analysis will show that the cost, risk and deliverability of many technologies will be shown to lead others (particularly nuclear) by such large margins that we may avoid making major costly mistakes. Links to key articles with expert discussion of their strengths and weakneses would be another useful component.

Is this a reasonable proposal for a wiki? Does it violate any wiki principles.

"Creating a wiki" means to create a separate website devoted to this topic, that anyone could edit. See wiki. Since this page is to help with Wikipedia questions, we really don't have an opinion on if starting up your own website is a good idea.

Your question might be: "Is this a good idea for a Wikipedia article". The answer to this is more complex. Wikipedia has a basic policy of Verifiability, so the information we include is not original research, it is based on reliable sources. Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and take a look at What Wikipedia is not. Wikipedia is not a royal commission into the viability of nuclear power in Australia, but maybe something like Nuclear power in Australia would be appropriate. For more ideas ask at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board (but be concise and direct with your question there).--Commander Keane 14:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I formatted the above into a lists ... so that it would wrap and is more legible. -- ∞Wirelain 14:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I have questions, and I'm looking for answers

I would like to make those nice lil user templetes that many wikipedia people have where it says "This user is an athtiest", or "This user is a member of the Nazi part", etc. Wow can I copy these onto my page?

Also, I noticed that many users have recieved awards from other wikipedians. I would like to give myself awards, including an award for being the first user to give himself an award. How can I do this.

Thanks. XM 15:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

You want Wikipedia:Awards and Wikipedia:Userboxes. Note that Wikipedia userpages should serve only for communication between users related to working on encyclopedia articles, Wikipedia is not a free webhost for personal homepages. You are of course free to give yourself any award you like, but the idea sounds a lot like masturbation. dab (ᛏ) 17:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Underlined Links

I logged out, logged back in, and made a redirect page. Now all my links are underlined! Help! I'm also getting the following warning whenever I click on the "Edit this page" link: Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in." I've tried that to no avail. Freddie 22:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

If you to to "My preferences", and click on the "Misc" tab, you can change the "underline links" option to suit whichever choice you would like. -- Natalya 22:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

So why were my links suddenly underlined for no reason whatsoever? Freddie 22:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

From WP:VP/T: "If all the links in the articles suddenly become underlined (or the opposite), it's probably because your browser failed to load one of the stylesheets. Do a forced reload or bypass your cache."--Commander Keane 15:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Question pertaining to Maps on Wikipedia

My question pertains to the maps of land possessions of empires and countries. It seems that whenever one would look up information on an empire/country the maps used are identical, excluding the superimposed color on the map to represent land possession. A few perfect exmaples are maps of possessions of the Danish, Dutch, French, Russian, and Spanish empires. So my question is: are these maps identical because Wikipedia provides them for users and they just modify them or are they common maps people use and modify? In any case, if the maps are or are not provided by Wikipedia may I please have a link to where I can get it a blank one?

The Commons, a Wikimedia project, has a repository of various free to use maps here. — TheKMan^talk 01:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

i would like to make a wikipedia file on singer rachel mcfarlane

hi i would like to make a wikipedia file on singer rachel mcfarlane.how do i do it? thanks.dave — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sugarbabydavey (talk • contribs)

You can simple edit the page Rachel McFarlane. For help on creating a page, you can take a look at Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. Also, before creating the article, please make sure that she is notable. -- Natalya

Frustrating deletion...

Someone speedy deleted the template Template:User no notability, then protected the page. I requested deletion review, which states that speedy deletions that are contested should be sent to TfD. Regardless, there was a review for seven days, and the votes tallied up for one more in favor of deletion than opposed to deletion. Someone then closed the discussion improperly by using a permanent link to the old page instead of archiving. When two of us complained under the "Closed deletion" section, our comments were deleted.

There were two things wrong with this debate:

1. The votes of the users aligned exactly with their stance on notability. Not good.
2. The "closer" closed the poll by reflecting majority, not consensus. A majority of voters after the proposed revision on Deletion Review were for a modified version. That is consensus. Instead, the user did not look at the debate; they simply tallied up votes, deleted the section, and permalinked to an old version.

Where do I complain about this? -- Chris ^Ccool2ax _contrib. 15:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Complaining usually doesn't get you very far in Wikipedia. Have you tried discussing the issue with the admin who closed the deletion review? Actually, if I were you, I wouldn't worry too much about a userbox; there are more important things that need to be done on Wikipedia. --TantalumTelluride 18:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I know, but it's such a relevant userbox. This gets speedied while Template:User Gangster gets kept. Maybe I should make a user category instead...-- Chris ^Ccool2ax _contrib. 03:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Tool to check when statement added to article.

Background

I am trying to find ways to make maintaining Category:Current_events easier. Specifically knowing when it is OK to remove the {{current}} template.

Requirement

It would be extremely useful is if there was a tool that could be used to tell when the {{current}} template was added to an article. Does anyone know how to do this?

I am trying to write a perl program to do this myself, but don't want to reinvent the wheel GameKeeper 17:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Interiot has a tool (currently offline, but he publishes source code somewhere) to check when {{prod}} is added to pages - so ask him. Good luck --Commander Keane 18:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Clueless newbie or vandal?

Hi, someone suggested that I post my concern about an editor here. A new user has been repetedly modifying pages even though editors have asked him to stop. He has even added nonsense and unverified claims to articles, sometimes three times a day. The editors and I have been trying to help him by giving hints and telling him the correct way to edit an article, but he won't take our advice. He is somewhat involved with an edit war in a few articles: he adds images and nonsense even though we asked him to stop.

He also continues to upload copyrighted images with a source but no fair use rationale. He has even gone so far as to upload duplicate images. I politely gave him some advice about the images too, but he didn't follow them.

Any suggestions on what to do? --Starionwolf 18:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Mmm, well it's hard to say without knowing which user is this. Because of the high level of disruption perhaps the solution is to post at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents to see if a permanent block is a good idea.--Commander Keane 18:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. He finally posted a message on an article's talk page. Hopefully, the other editors give him helpful advice and convince him to stop adding nonsense. One funny thing is that he deleted some of the nonsense he added. I'll keep an eye on his edits and image uploads though. Thanks for the advice. --Starionwolf 20:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

How to rename previously Uploaded files?

How do you rename files that have been previously uploaded? I am actually asking this in general for any wiki that has a mediwiki backend. I am the admin and have all access rights. If there is a different way to rename for limited rights that would also be nice to know.

137.229.69.105 00:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe it involves moving the Media:Timberlanelogo.jpg (using Timberlane logo as example.)-- Chris ^Ccool2ax _contrib. 04:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Style: foreign words in titles (books/films, songs/poems)

I've read the Guidance on Style Supplementary Manual on titles, and if I understand correctly:

• titles of books and films are italicized
• titles of poems and songs are enclosed in quotation marks (and not italicized)

What to do when any of these contains foreign language words? My house (i.e. personal) style guide, loosely adapted from CMS is to italicize foreign words, and put them in roman type when embedded in italicized text (e.g. film or book title). If this isn't recommended, please advise as to what is! Thanks, Deborahjay 06:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• My intuition, after having read just your title, was just the same — it's what I've seen in all sorts of books over the years. I'm not aware of anything in the MoS on this, so unless anyone else knows anything, go with your house style. It can always be changed later, after all. :-) — Estarriol ^talk 08:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

using english articles for dutch wikipedia

Is it OK to use an existing English article to expand or improve the Dutch wikipedia? I would like to take the English version as a starting-point to create (or improve) a Dutch article, partly by (loosely) translating the original, partly by adding some text of my own. Is this allowed? Should I cite a source in some way? (Is that necessary, considering the fact that the Dutch article would not be a point-for-point translation of the English one..) Thanks.

Wikipedia articles are under a free licence (the GNU Free Documentation Licence), and can be translated and transferred from the Wikipedia in one language to a Wikipedia in another language without any problems. If there isn't one already, you may wish to place an interwiki link back to the English Wikipedia article, i.e. [[en:English article name]], at the bottom of the article you are writing in the Dutch Wikipedia. Andrew 13:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• The process of translating articles between languages is encouraged, as it saves duplicating a lot of work that has already been done. You should leave a comment in your edit summary to say that it's a translation from the specified other language wiki, but that's about it. Cheers. — Estarriol ^talk 16:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• An additional practice, one I've seen and adopted: at the bottom of your article, add References as a new section, and: '' * This article is based on a translation of the article in the [[:en:|English Wikipedia]]; retrieved Month DD, YYYY. '' See my User Page for links to examples. Deborahjay 02:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, be sure to add your new article as an interwiki link in all other languages' articles that appear in the "in andere talen" box. Open each article, click on the third tab from the left ("edit this article"), and add at the bottom: [[nl:Dutch article name]] (there'll probably already be one of these for the English, at least). For your edit summary, write + interwiki :nl: or something similar.

NB: This can be done anonymously, but for tracking purposes and possible future discussion, I recommend you open an account with your user name in each of the other languages and sign on when you work in that language version. (Trust me -- so long as it's written in an alphabet you can read, you don't really need to know the other language to work this way :-) Deborahjay 03:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

photo of drill press

I just thought it might be helpful to have a photo where the drill press operator wore eye protection. The current photo shows a man without safety glasses; although he isn't actively drilling (I guess) I thought a photo with good safety practices might be "a good example." Thanks so much, Theresa from Maine

Thanks for the comment. If you have any more suggestions about a particular article, you can post them on the article's talk page, where they will more likely be seen by people who are experienced in the subject. To get to a talk page, just click the "discussion" tab at the top of the article, and then click the "+" tab at the top to add your suggestion. Once again, thanks for the suggestion! --TantalumTelluride 18:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

calender

i want to know when was muharram in the year 1976 and 1977... please help... --219.64.178.123 18:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)ΓΓ

You might find what you're looking for in Wikipedia's article on the Islamic calendar. If you can't find it there, you can ask at the reference desk. Thanks. --TantalumTelluride 18:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

user name displays wrong name

I am not sure but I thought I signed in with my new Wiki account, and when I contributed to an article, the user name came up different. Is it possible the previous user on this computer (I am at a school), did not sign in, and somehow my sign in was not effective? Under UserContributions it is not my user name, it is someone's elses. Is there a way to fix this?

Have you tried to "log out" (button in top right corner) and login again w/ the proper user name? There's no way to reattribute the edits. --Kchase02 T 07:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

The weather in London

What was the weather like in Southern England on 8 June 1876?

This page is for questions about contributing to Wikipedia. You might find what you're looking for at the Wikipedia reference desk. Thanks. --TantalumTelluride 18:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

great idea

First of all, I love Wikipedia and I have the random article link set as my homepage. I think this site is amazing but my vocabulary could use some work, so some of the articles are a bit hard to chew. I have an idea that could solve that problem for me and anyone else who has experienced it.

Right under the search field, it would be great to have a field labeled dictionary. Here is an example:

search

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______________________|

  | Go || Search |

dictionary

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______________________|

 | Go || Thesaurus |

I think this idea would be very benificial. Maybe Wikipedia could create a partnership with dictionary.com I hope this message was sent to the right place. If not, I would like to know where to send it. --Jorje0068 13:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

We have a free dictionary: Wiktionary. A link to Wiktionary in the toolbar would be interesting - perhaps bring it up at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) to see what others think (I'd support it).--Commander Keane 15:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

How to make my signature appear different

I'm sure there is a page explaining how to do this, as I see many people with differently colored or otherwise formatted signatures, but I have not been able to find such instructions. Any pointers? Lyrl 18:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

This page might be useful: WP:SIG. — TheKMan^talk 18:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Page Deleteion

I have found a page, Business studies, Which is very poor and , in its current form, does not warent a page on wikipedia. I have said on the Discision page that it should be deleted. What should I do from here? should I deleate it my-self if nobody comments. What if they do, and how long should i wait. Ken 21:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

If you think that a topic, eg Business studies, shouldn't be included in Wikipedia then follow the procedure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion (only an admin can delete a page), there will be a discussion about the article. However article quality is not a good reason. As a wiki, articles often start out poorly and improve later. Consider replacing the "bad" content of the current article with an improvement.--Commander Keane 21:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Business studies is notable: in the UK, it's a subject organised by many exam boards, and is a popular course at both GCSE and A Level. Andrew 18:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I would agree that Business Studies is notable, however the wikipedia article is about business studies as an Irish jouniour cert (GCSE equlivinent) subject. There is a lot more to it than that and all of the said article is irrelevent to what the article should be about. If it is to stay it needs to be rewitien but i certinaly dont have the knowalge to do it. It has been marked for clean up for quite some time so it dosent look like anyone else is going to improve it either. Ken 19:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Theology

Interestingly, Orthodox Jews, so as to avoid writing the divine name as it appears in Hebrew, use the spelling, G-d, when writing the divine name in English. Following this example, a frequent poster to the www.brainmeta/forum, so as to avoid much of the baggage surrounding the use of the term, God, proposes the use of the acronym, GØD. He argues that it stands for goodness, order and design of all that is. The use of Ø, which is the math symbol for empty set, he argues, acknowledges his belief that GØD is involved in science as well as morality, literature, philosophy and arts. Is this allowable?

I think that depends on what you mean by "allowable". Anyway, you might find some helpful information in Wikipedia's article about Names of God in Judaism. Also, you might want to ask at the reference desk, specifically the humanities section. Thanks. --TantalumTelluride 01:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying your question. Generally, it is not necesary to censor the name of God on Wikipedia in any way. By using the term GØD in Wikipedia articles, you would be expressing the opinion that God is "involved in science," and that would be violating Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. Since the term is only used on a message board and it is not widely accepted as an alternative spelling of God, many Wikipedia readers might be confused if you use the term. Frankly, since the term is not widely accepted, it is not notable enough to be mentioned in any article about the name of God. (See Wikipedia:Avoid neologisms.) Remember, this is an encyclopedia. We try to accomodate users of all faiths and beliefs, but we must remain as neutral and objective as possible. There are many other places on the web, such as the message boards you mentioned, where you are encouraged to express your personal opinions and to report orginal research, but Wikipedia is for encyclopedic information only. I hope this helps. --TantalumTelluride 18:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

I keep trying to insert a picture on my webpage, but the picture is never diplayed. What am i doing wrong? Also, how do you create a contents box? I tried to do the tutorials, but they dont make sense to me interoutelogo.jpg

To insert a picture, make sure that the tag has the Image: prefix (i.e. [[Image:Interoutelogo.jpg]]), otherwise it will be displayed as a link. Additionally, if you haven't already, take a look at Wikipedia:Extended image syntax to find out how to format the picture. As for contents boxes, they will appear automatically when an article has enough sections, though if you must have one, just add __TOC__ to the top of your page. I hope that makes things clear. Andrew 18:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

trying to local ipoh telephone line old nos. 05-376037. ??.

because i don,t know the new contact telephone ,please help to find.Hope you can find it?THANK YOU!!!

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.

Audio

Hi there,

Do you know of any guidelines for making audio recordings for articles as an accessibility option?

Regards, DigitDuke 12:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

There are some helpful guidelines and instructions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. If you have any specific questions, you can ask them on at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. I hope this helps. --TantalumTelluride 19:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Category tag needed

Which is that tag that disputes the inclusion of an article in a category? I've tried looking for it but can't find it. Skinnyweed 21:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe there's a tag. I'd suggest bringing it up on the relevant article's talk page. (Article's are included in categories by placing category tags in the article itself; the page for the category is not modified.)--Kchase02 T 21:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I know, but the one I'm talking about goes on the article. I swear I've seen it somewhere else before. Skinnyweed 21:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you saw {{uncategorized}} or {{cfd-article}}. I don't know of any templates like the one you describe. --TantalumTelluride 22:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

New here.

Hello I am new to Wikipedia. I will be reading the FAQs and such shortly, but it is overwhelming and may take some time. Please if someone wants to, feel free to follow me around and correct some of my mistakes. I really hope to be a helpful and valuable member of the team. Thanks Nisanu 22:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! Don't worry about reading all the rules right away. No single editor can keep up with all of them anyway. Just use sommon sense, and be bold in updating pages! Since you asked, I'll try to keep an eye on you to make sure you don't screw anything up. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here on this page. --TantalumTelluride 01:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

You might also want to put {{helpme}} on your talk page. Gyre 03:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Why isn't my article showing up when I search for it?

I submitted a new article recently entitled "Toxic and Nutritional Optic Neuropathy." However, when I search for it, it doesn't come up. Why is that and what can I do about it?

The search index is often out of date, sometimes taking weeks before it's updated. Recent changes are not reflected until the next time the search index is updated. Also, article names are case sensitive. The "go" button usually masks this, but in some cases a redirect is necessary. --TantalumTelluride 06:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

help to get admitted to MS

Respected Sir,

I want to get admitted to the MS degree course of Sungkyunkwan University.I am an Indian now in Paris,France.How to apply? or whom to contact?

my id (e-mail redacted)

please kindly help me as i am an foreign student,for which I shall be ever thankful.

Sumana Majee

Erm - we are an encyclopedia, not a university. Your best bet would be to contact the university directly - their website is http://eng.skku.edu/ . Good luck! — QuantumEleven 09:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

How do I start a new topic or article?

I have collected and developed lots of information about what I call "selected-phonetic rules and words". The following information is taken from my website. I am willing to collaborate with anyone to develop these rules and word-lists so they can effectively be used to teach beginning readers. Ask if you want more information.

From << http://www.buenavistaelementary.com/2000rules.html >>

36 SPEECH-SOUND RULES FOR OUR 3,400 "SELECTED-PHONETIC" WORDS

We are throwing away the hundreds of complex or compound reading rules you now need and are substituting just 36 simple rules as shown below.

This is designed to be a simple unambiguous system for teaching beginning readers.

SHORT VOWELS

1 -- All vowels are short by default -- (bat, bet, bit, dot, but) -- except as in #2 and #3 below.

2 -- Y in the middle of a word is short /i/ -- (hymn, dyslexic, etc.)

3 -- A at the end of these six short words is a pseudo short vowel with the speech-sound /o/-- (bra, ha, la, ma, pa, ska)

LONG VOWELS REPRESENTED BY A SINGLE LETTER

4 -- E at the end of these six short words is long /e/ in be, he, me, she, we & ye.

5 -- O at the end of a word is long /o/ (go, no, hello, memo, etc.)

LONG VOWELS REPRESENTED BY TWO OR THREE LETTERS

6 -- AY and AI are long /a/ -- (aid, bay, maid, paid, say, pay, tray etc.)

7 -- EA and EE are long /e/ -- (sea, see, tea, tee, etc.)

8 -- IE is long /i/ -- (die, pie, tie, etc)

9 -- OA and OE are long /o/ -- (boat, coat, toe, foe, hoe, etc.)

10 -- UE is long /u/ -- (due, hue, blue, glue, etc.)

11 -- OO is long /u/ (boo, too, loot, etc.)

12 -- OU and OW are /ow/ as in cow, how, cloud, proud, etc.

13 -- OI and OY are always pronounced /oy/, as in boy -- (coy, toy, soy, enjoy, coil spoil, toil, etc.)

14 -- AR is /ar/ as in car, far, part, etc.

15 -- OR is /or/ as in or, port, more, etc.

16 -- AIR and AER are /air/ and /aer/ as in air, lair, pair, aero- etc.

17 -- ALL is /all/ as in all, ball, call etc.

18 -- ER, IR, & UR are all /ur/ -- as in her, sir, word, fur, etc.

19 -- CH is /ch/ as in chin, which, etc.

20 -- EAR is /ear/ as in ear, fear, near

21 -- ICE is /ice/ as in ice, nice, twice, etc.

22 -- INE is /ine/ as in nine, fine, mine, etc.

23 -- ING is /ing/ as in ring, sing, thing, etc.

24 -- INK is /ink/ as in rink, sink, think, etc.

25 -- QU is /qu/ as in quick

26 -- SH is /sh/ as is ash and shop

27 -- TH is /th/ as in the, bath, etc. (we are ignoring the voiced and unvoiced distinctions)

28 -- WH is /w/ as in while, when, etc. -- either pronounce the H or not -- speaker's choice

29 -- WR is /r/ as in writ, wren, wretch, etc.

SILENT LETTERS

30 -- E at the end of a word is always silent except in be, he, me, she, we & ye

31 -- KN is always /n/ as in knife, knee, knot, etc.

SIGHT WORDS WHICH HAVE TO BE MEMORIZED (26 of them) . These words are included as a compromise. They are not phonetic under any rules, but they are very common, so it is hard to omit them on a list children should learn. It is the teacher's choice as to whether to include them or not. Good arguments can be made for either choice, so it is a toss-up. If they are eliminated it is harder to construct interesting sentences. We will decide later whether to finally include them or not in this system. For the time being, they are included.

32 -- a, come, do, eye, I, love, of, oh, one, pull, put, push, said, some, son, the, their, there, they, time, to, two, was, who, you, your.

CONSONANTS

33 -- All consonants are regular except as presented on this page.

NUMERALS AND KEYBOARD SYMBOLS

34 -- These numerals and keyboard symbols are allowed: (1, 2, 3 ... to whatever -- also +, -, x, <, >, %, $, ?, & and =).

Y IS A SPECIAL LONG VOWEL AT THE END OF A WORD

35 -- Y at the end of a word, following a consonant, is long /e/ -- (pity, treaty, duty, booty, etc. -- except for 9 short words on next line below)

36 -- Y is long /i/ in 12 short words (by, my, fry, ply, pry, sky, sly, sty, thy, try, why & wry)

SPECIAL NOTES

1 -- All letters within a letter-combination as shown above always abandon their individual pronunciations. The pronunciation of the combination is always used. For instance, if the word is "for" (an "o" is in the "or"), it is pronounced f/or -- not f/o/r (as though it had two speech-sounds, not three).

2 -- All 2-letter combinations within a 3-letter combination as shown above always abandon their individual pronunciations. The pronunciation of the 3-letter combination is always used. For instance, if the word is "ears" (an "ea" is in the "ear"), it is pronounced ear/s -- not ea/r/s (as though it had two speech-sounds, not three).

We are throwing away the hundreds of complex reading rules you now need and are using only the 36 simple rules shown above

We intend to list, in alphabetical sets, all the words in the English language which have various selected-phonetic speech-sounds. We currently have a list of 3,400 words that follow the above rules.

Martirc 20:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• That's fascinating stuff, but as a general rule we don't recommend writing about yourself, or anything you have invented or created - please see guidelines under WP:AUTO and WP:VANITY. Hopefully someone here will be motivated by this to investigate and determine whether this concept is notable, and possibly create an article on it. Cheers. — Estarriol ^talk 20:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to Estarriol for responding. How do I formally submit my material for a review of "notability"? From my viewpoint, It seems like it is a bad idea to just leave it to chance that someone will notice the submission. I would think that there must be a way to formally submit material for a review by knowledgable Wickipedians. Martirc 20:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

This really doesn't look like encyclopedic information, so it probably doesnt belong on Wikipedia. Instead, you might be interested in contributing to Wikipedia's sister project, Wikibooks, which is a repository of free-content textbooks. By the way, for instructions on starting a new Wikipedia article, see Help:Starting a new article, although I don't recommend creating an encylopedia article for this information. I encourage you to register an account with Wikibooks and contribute there. --TantalumTelluride 21:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. I think my list of 3,400 words, and counting, certainly would do well in an encyclopedia -- or at least, a dictionary. Currently, most teachers use all the CVC words (Consonant-Vowel-Consonant) words to teach beginning readers because those words are all regular, in accordance with the CVC rule that all vowels are "short". This new system simply expands that idea by creating 36 rules and then compiling all the English words that folow those rules. The only question is -- are my rules the best possible? I am willing to collaborate with others to develop the best possible set of rules. All teachers are faced with the question, "which words should I teach first". This is an attempt to get people working cooperatively on a good answer to that question.

Are you deeply familiar with phonemes, spelling rules and the concept that English is difficult to learn because it is not phonetic? Martirc 22:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Your method of teaching phonics is indeed interesting, but Wikipedia isn't the right place for it. If you were to create an article about it or include it in an existing Wikipedia article, it would most likely be deleted or removed, respectively. However, Wikibooks is looking for contributors like you who are interested in improving teaching methods. I suggest you take a look at the existing Wikibooks phonics textbooks and consider contributing to them. --TantalumTelluride 23:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• I can only echo TantalumTelluride's suggestion. Wikipedia is not the place for original research; this is a cornerstone policy of the encyclopedia, and is non-negotiable. Please consider Wikibooks. Good luck, that's interesting stuff there. — Estarriol ^talk 23:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I am not as interested in improving teaching methods as I am in in giving teachers access to a large, comprehensive set of absolutely phonetic words, selected from the English language, which can be used by them to improve teaching. My work is simply a compilation of all English words that conform to a basic set of phonetic and spelling rules. This is not original research by any definition of that phrase and should not be excluded on those grounds. It is basicaly a compilation of existing words and existing rules that are well known to the teaching community. Wouldn't you think that it is worthwhile for a teacher to be able to access a list of all words that meets his set of spelling and phonetic rules? That can be done if a set of rules (about 30 to 40) are picked from existing rules and all existing words conforming to those rules are selected and put on a list. I have set up a prototype of the system and have 3,400 words thar conform to 36 rules. With collaborative help, I think we can decide if my rules are improvable and pick an appropriate set of conforming words -- perhaps 10,000 words. I hate to belabor this argument -- but I have the feeling that I am not getting my basic points across. Martirc 03:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• With respect, I think you're not listening to us. What you are describing is laudable, interesting, useful. It is not an article in an encyclopedia. I can tell you with certainty that if you create that article, it will get deleted in short order. Please don't waste your time doing so, when it could more usefully be put in Wikibooks. — Estarriol ^talk 08:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Please bear with me for a little bit longer. Let me direct you to A LITTLE ENCYCLOPAEDIA OF PHONETICS. Peter Roach. Professor of Phonetics. University of Reading, UK. email:. Personal contact information removed to save the professor lots of spam — Estarriol ^talk

This small book by Peter roach is evidently out of print. It seems to me that Mr. Roach would be delighted to contribute to an "Encyclopedia of Phonetics" which Wickepdia would put on the Wickepedia website. There must be all sorts of phonetic oriented material available which would be helpful to the viewers and researchers.

Are you telling me that Wickipedia has no interest at all (now and forever) in putting together an encyclopedic section titled "Phonetics"? Martirc 14:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• Nope, that's rather a straw man argument, since I said nothing like that at all. Wikipedia already has a large swathe of phonetics articles - see List of phonetics topics for an attempt at an index. And you'd be welcome to start a WikiProject for phonetics too, that would be great. What you're not welcome to do - by the policies of the Encyclopedia - is perform original research here, or document your own work here. All edits to this encyclopedia should follow the policies laid down by its creator and the guidelines formed by its thousands of diligent editors. I strongly recommend you read these policies and guidelines before replying again; TantalumTelluride has been good enough to place links to get you started on your talk page. Please start there to find out what Wikipedia is, and how to edit it. Cheers. (Or you could check out Wikibooks, which is probably exactly where you should be). — Estarriol ^talk 15:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you -- you have been more than patient with this newbie. Martirc 21:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Images

This is probably really stupid but the page about how to put images on pages confused me so how do you really put pictures on a page?Party29 21:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I got confused too. I found it easier with examples. Here's how to put a basic image "pic.jpg" in a page:

[[Image:pic.jpg]]

You can also put certain parameters on it, like:

• px=20 (to limit it to 20 pixels)
• left, right, center (to align it)
• frame (to add a frame around it)
• thumb (to add text, put "thumb | Text here" at the end)

So basically, say you want "pic.jpg" to be 50 pixels, aligned on the right, and with text "This is an image." You would type:

[[Image:pic.jpg|50px|right|thumb|This is an image.]]

To make pic.jpg align on the left, and to put a frame around it, you'd type:

[[Image:pic.jpg|left|frame]]

Hope this helps! tiZom_(2¢) 21:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Don't forget to upload the image first. See Wikipedia:Uploading images. — Estarriol ^talk 21:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Locating a previous editor by searching per text?

I just came upon an article that's been edited numerous times over a lengthy period. At some point, someone wrote a statement I find outrageous. To clarify, I wrote very particularly about this on the article's Discussion Page and am now waiting for responses. Frankly, though, this tactic hasn't served me well in past attempts in other articles; I suspect those pages simply aren't being watched (or if so, no one cares to engage in discussion about the point I raised).

QUESTION: Is there a particular way of searching past edits for the first appearance of a text element? My intention is to identify the editor so that I can leave a message on his/her Talk Page with an alert to the new discussion. Thanks, Deborahjay 00:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

The best way I know to do this is by checking the halfway mark in the edit history; if the text is not there, check the halfway mark in the edits more recent than the previous; if still there the halfway mark between the older edits. Using this method you can find the edit in a surprisingly short time. Another words: 1,000 edits, check the 500 mark, not present? go to the 250 mark, present? go to the 750 mark, and so on. If anyone knows of a better way, I'm curious too.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

• I've found more success by starting at the bottom of the page for controversial edits, as they are likely to be more recent. This one was no more than 20 down from the top, on 2006-05-20 19:07:01 by 71.146.133.208 (talk · contribs)... a user with a history of spurious edits to historical articles, and who has been blocked for vandalism. I'd probably remove that particular statement if I were you. — Estarriol ^talk 13:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Are 'to be announced' albums put in discographies?

I found that a user just did that, but it seems to be quite unnecessary for me... — Zee 00:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

That should be acceptable in most cases. Preferably, a reliable source should be cited, especially if there is reasonable doubt about the claim's truthfulness. For more guidelines, see Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --TantalumTelluride 03:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Think Tank question

What are the roles, objectives and duties of a Think Tank for Debates and dialogue? And where can i read more about its formation, workplans?

You might try this one at Wikipedia:Reference_desk.--Kchase02 T 17:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

User Page

I have a problem with my User page. There are two symbols in it which I cant remove. they are |}. Can anyone Help? Ken 19:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

fixed :) you had a redundant boxbottom -Quiddity 20:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ken 20:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

how can I change my article's title?

Hi! I would like to change the title of my article from "Thunder bay public library" to Thunder Bay Public Library (formal name, should be capitalized). How can I do that? Thanks a lot! Joanna :)

The easiest way would be to move the page using the "move" tab at the top of the window (between the history and watch tabs). Just type in the new name and the reason and click move. This seems uncontroversial, but controversial moves are discussed at the article's talk page first to check consensus. There's more info about page moves at Help:Moving a page.--Kchase02 T 09:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

To change name, you have to "Move" to new name

OK, so I found the right "help" right after I posted my question! Murphy's Law rules yet again! [unsigned comment; relates to previous one]'

Move -- or Rename; I've been reading about this and frankly it's got me baffled to the point of paralysis! (I have an article in mind for a, shall we say, name change -- and its history reveals that the name I support was used, possibly the original, prior to a recent Move. So I'm not sure what to do; just bringing this up here for your attention. -- Deborahjay (new here myself) 18:57, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Content lost with HTML tag _<!>_ ?!

There's a complicated discussion taking place within and around The Bielski Brothers article on which I'm trying to do some preliminary work. A recent edit was done by an anonymous, "no-account" individual, but content is "signed" with the name of this book's author as if written by him. Reading the edit history, I see considerable discussion, on yellow-background lines, preceded by the HTML tag _<!>_ -- and as there's no closing tag ( _</!>_?), the rest of the article's material, (Further reading, External links, etc.) was lost though appears in the yellow area, seen only when comparing versions of the article's History (? I think...). I want to at least restore what's not discussion here, and maybe even transfer the discussion matter to the article's discussion page. What's going on, and what do you recommend? -- Thanks, Deborahjay 19:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Further to what I wrote, above: I can appreciate that the discussion "there" is for the view of editors only, rather than visible to all on the discussion page. Hmmm... even so, there are contentions and countercharges that pertain to the article. I don't wish to practice censorship one way or another, and for now will focus on restoring the lost non-discussion content. Still.... Help!! :-o Deborahjay 19:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

• HTML comments are formed with <!-- and --> — there's no closing slash, as an HTML comment is a special construct and not a tag. Wikipedia guidelines (can't find them now, so this is from memory) basically strongly recommend not using inline HTML comments for other editors to replace talk page discussion unless necessary for a very good reason. That will happen rarely. I think the Albus Dumbledore article has some regarding not spoiling something for other editors who may not know a plot point, but that got into a convoluted talk page argument.

Anyway... consider moving any part of that discussion to the talk page that you deem belongs there, with an explanatory note. Definitely use a closing HTML comment to allow the useful part of the article to show. Be Bold, you're overqualified in the sensible department to deal with this. I'll take a look at the article and talk page later on to see how you went, once I get back from being busy for a while. — Estarriol ^talk 20:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Adding an element in a table to the TOC

Is there any way to make information inside a table appear as part of the TOC, particularly I would like to make a name in a table appear as a second-level element === Name Here === in the pages TOC. This is for the List of law clerks of the Supreme Court of the United States article, where it would be useful to have the individual Justices who have held each seat listed bneath the seat. Please feel free to leave any suggestions/advice on my Talk page. Phil 04:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Headed over to user's talk page.--Commander Keane 08:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Where can I find a list of Wikipedia "tags"?

Well, I don't know what to call them exactly. But they are the things that (for example) show that an article documents a current event, an article lacks an infobox, and so on... — Prodigenous Zee - 11:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Various maintenance, cleanup, warning, etc templates for articles, images and user pages can be found here: Wikipedia:Template_messages. --mtz206 (talk) 11:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

completing an edit

Under International Commission for Control and Supervision I have contributed an article to replace the present one which is slightly in error and lacking in some detail. In parentheses, for the benefit of Wiki editors, I gave my qualifications. I would now like to remove the entry in parentheses and remove the original article, thus leaving just my rewrite. I have been unable to do so using the instructions under "edit this page." Can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob Ringma (talk • contribs)

First, click the "edit this page" button on the top of the article. When the editing window opens, select and delete the text you want removed. When finished editing the article, write a brief edit summary, make sure "This is a minor edit" is not checked, and then click the "Save page" button. (More help can be found here: Wikipedia:How to edit a page). You also might want to include your editorial note on the article's talk page: Talk:International Commission for Control and Supervision. --mtz206 (talk) 19:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, it looks someone just made the change for you. You might want to look at how they also added wikilinks to some of the key terms in your new copy: [2]. --mtz206 (talk) 19:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Flickr.com

Another probably stupid question but how do you get the source filename from a flickr.com photo to upload? Party29 23:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

You should be able to right-click on the picture and select something like "copy link", then paste it in. Gyre 00:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

True. In addition, Flickr provided its photos in a number of different sizes, with different link names. Click the "All Sizes" button above the photo and it will give you the correct links. Graham 23:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Spiders

I have found a spider about the size of a silver dollar. It was a brownish grey color, with pretty large fangs. It was also carrying alot of babies on it's back. I would like to find out what kind it is because I haven't seen one before. It was found in my tent or sleeping bag after my wife came back from a camping trip down south from us. We live in the upper northeast cornor of Mississippi, they were south of Hattiesburg.

Try our Reference desk for factual questions like this one.--Commander Keane 03:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

migration

what is migration and its impart on settlement

Try asking this at the humanities reference desk if you mean human migration or the science reference desk if you mean animal migration. Be sure to sign your posts by adding four tildes (~~~~) to the end of your comments. Emmett5 14:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Explanation of headings?

Where can I read an explanation of what goes under the various headings: References, Further reading, and External links? I gather the first is for material (whether print or Web) actually used in preparing the article. I'm vague on the rest, and subsequent editors have revised my original attempts in ways that I don't quite understand. Thanks, Deborahjay 22:25, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout#Standard_appendices goes over what each of the sections should look like. -- Natalya 15:03, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

adding new articles

How do you add a new article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cran van 3000 (talk • contribs) .

Enter the title in this box, and go to that page:

You can find more information at Help:Starting a new page. And if you have any questions about how to edit, just ask :o) Happy editing! tiZom_(2¢) 00:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

How to add new article in Wiki?

Hi Wiki Veterans,

Please guide How to add new article in Wiki?

This might sound silly question, but I am not able to trace relevant link.

Thanks!

The question above has the answer. Also, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article.--Commander Keane 09:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Other Users

Another user talked to me about working together to edit an article on the "my talk" page. How do I write back to him/her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewdy (talk • contribs)

Click on his name. That will take you to his user page. Now up to the top of the screen, and click on "Discussion" to get to his user talk page, where you can leave him a message. Alternatively, you can talk to him on the Discussion (talk) page of the article you are working on with him. Remember, sign your posts by adding "~~~~" to the end of your message to make it easier for others to see who's saying what. Happy editing. -- Steel 19:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Image Source/Tag

How am I suppose to know which tag to put on my image. For example I upped an image called Lacuna Coil-Halflife.jpg[3]

Check out Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and just find the one that seems appropriate. I think yours looks like a {{Gamecover}} Hope that helps! ~Kylu (u|t) 23:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Mitchell High School (Nebraska)

Mitchell High School is located in Mitchell Nebraska. In the 2005-2006 school year there was about 305 students in grades 7-12. The socioeconomic status of the school is mostly low-middle to middle income. The class sizes range from 10-25.

I guess you figured out how to create an article yourself: Mitchell High School (Nebraska). --TantalumTelluride 02:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

creating a article in another language.

am i allowed to translate an article to another language or do i have to revise it.

Yes, you may translate Wikipedia articles into other languages. You don't have to make significant changes, but you can if you want to. Be sure to submit the translated version to the right place, though. You must register a separate account for each language version of Wikipedia. See Template:Wikipedialang for a list of Wikipedias in different languages, and see Wikipedia:WikiProject Echo for more helpful information about translating articles. --TantalumTelluride 02:10, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Song Page Question on Lyrics

Are we allowed to edit in Full song Lyrics for a song on a wikipedia page? or would this be considared agnist policy/copyright's?

No, in most cases, Wikipedia is not allowed to display the lyrics of entire songs. In some articles about songwriters and particular songs, a short excerpt might be appropriate; but reproduction of the entire song would usually be copyright infringement. If the song lyrics are in the public domain, Wikipedia can legally display them. On the other hand, Wikipedia is not a songbook, so public-domain song lyrics should be contributed to WikiSource or the Commons instead. --TantalumTelluride 02:21, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

wonted to know

i am trying to find out if there is a copy tape of This is your life that stared the author Lenna Kennedy and how to obtane this thank you Maureen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maureen Chandler (talk • contribs)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Natalya 13:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

starting to wikify

I'm looking at trying to help with the wikifying process, and I just want to make sure I'm going in the right direction. I chose Coralline algae to start with, since I'm a marine naturalist. Looking at the article, I think that it needs:

 1. The second through fourth paragraphs should be made into an introductory section.
 2. Links and references should be added to the following sections.
 3. Punctuation, italics for species names, etc.
 4. The first-person sentences should be converted to active verb, third-person.

That's what comes to mind. Does that sound about right? Thanks for any input! Graham 06:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

These are all positive changes to the article, and will be much appreciated. However, in this case "wikify" means to add internal links to other Wikipedia articles. There is a definition in the glossary. For example in the Corallines in community ecology section you might like to link to abalone and aquaculture etc (keeping in mind Only make links that are relevant to the context).--Commander Keane 06:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that! The Category:Articles_that_need_to_be_wikified page makes things sound more complicated than that... Graham 01:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

corporate exploitation of wikipedia

I was surprised while doing some research on Davy Jones' Locker to see that a significant portion of the entry was dedicated to a character from the upcoming Disney film "Pirates of the Caribbean." A linked page deals exclusively with this Disney character. My feeling is that Wikipedia should be a forum for the exchange of information and ideas, not for advertising. Let Disney hype their movie (which isn't even out yet) somewhere else. This minor example is simply irritating; more worrisome is the prospect that if there aren't rules governing this kind of thing... what's to prevent Wikipedia from becoming watered-down by self-serving advertisers?

Perhaps this question has already been dealt with elsewhere? Please direct me to the right page if that's the case.

-- Matt Eckel

Wikipedia has policies against advertising, see WP:CORP. Splintercellguy 03:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Using discussion pages

I"m confused about how to use the talk pages on Wikipedia. I've looked at the help pages but didn't find anything specific enough. Is there a set of examples anywhere?

It might help to describe my situation. Last night I was editing the page on Karen Silkwood when I got a new message questioning a fact in the article. I edited this to add a comment, then saved it. Today when I went back to that article, the only message I saw was the standard welcome for new contributors. I figure I'm doing something wrong, and I need help figuring out what the error is.

(There's also a slight possibility, based on the nature of the question, that it was intended to be disruptive and has been deleted by someone. But that's really beside the point. (I think.))

Take a look at Help:Talk pages. Note that each article on Wikipedia has a corresponding talk page. Also, each user has a user page and a corresponding user talk page. When someone edits your user talk page, you receive a bright orange bar at the top of your screen that says "You have new messages." If you want to be sure to get your messages, you need to create an account. When you edit any talk page, be sure to sign your name using four tildes (~~~~). You might find some more helpful information at Wikipedia:Namespaces. --TantalumTelluride 22:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, I think I've got it sorted out now. Thanks for the help. If I have any more questions I'll be sure to post them here. BTW: I did go back and sign the original post, after logging in. Apparently it didn't "take". Chris 00:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Your question makes a little more sense now that I know who you are. You weren't logged in when you posted the question, so I didn't know where to find your user talk page. Let us know if you have any more questions. --TantalumTelluride 03:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

How to edit a title?

My recent contribution on "The International Commission for Control and Supervision" is correctly titled. However, when I search for the article the correct title is followed by an incorrect second line which reads "International Commission Supervision and Control (ICSC)". How can I change this? Bob Ringma 21:40, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with the search. See here. The problem must have resolved itself. If you're still having trouble, let us know. --TantalumTelluride 22:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Article deletion

I need some help as I am trying to add some information about the Fluance company which manufactures loudspeakers. I did add information that was about a month ago and everytime the article got deleted. Everytime I did modify the article but it still got deleted. What do I have to do to add a article which doen't get deleted. I did read the Instruction page.And don't understand why my page was deleted whileas there are similar other companies whose articles are on the website.

Please advise what should I do. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fluance (talk • contribs) .

The article was deleted by DakotaKahn as it nothing but an advertisement. The first thing you should do is read WP:CORP for the notability guidelines for inclusion of companies. If Fluance meets these guidelines, then you can create an article on the company, but remember that this is an encyclopedia, not a repository of advertisements. Articles need to conform to a neutral point of view and phrases like "Fluance has successfully revolutionized the home audio industry" need independent citations to justify their inclusion. You should look at some of the articles on other companies for reference. If you post ad copy, at best the article will be mercilessly edited to make it neutral. At worst, it will be deleted again. --GraemeL ^(talk) 22:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

how many season are in bangladesh

how many season are in Bangladesh?

See if the Bangladesh article provides the answer. --mtz206 (talk) 12:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Adding A New Article

I am a total newcomer to Wikipedia and want to add a new article on a topic that is not listed. I hve logged on, but the prompt "Create a New Article" no longer re-appears, once I have logged on. What is the quickest way to create an article ?

First search to make sure the article does not already exist. If it doesn't, type the exact name of the article you want to create into the search field to the left and click Go (not Search). You will then see a page that says "No page with that title exists" and a red link saying "create this article". See also: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

What does project mean here?

Reading Help pages, I've encountered the term project -- how does this relate to terms like article and page? Also, should we always refer to an article/page's name rather than title (or topic, subject, or whatever)? I'm failing to grasp the distinctions between these...or are they used interchangeably? --Thanks, Deborahjay 16:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The word project can have many meanings on Wikipedia. It might refer to one of the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation. So Wikipedia is a project, Wiktionary is a project, Wikisource is a project, etc. The word project (instead of Wikipedia) might be used frequently on help pages because many help pages are copied from the Meta-Wiki and are used on other projects besides Wikipedia. Also, the word project, when used on any MediaWiki website, might refer to a page in the project namespace, which is intended for pages containing guidelines or discussions about the project. On Wikipedia, the Project: prefix is replaced by a Wikipedia: prefix, thus the title of this page is Wikipedia:New contributors' help page. And finally, the word project might refer to a specific WikiProject or some other community in Wikipedia, such as Esperanza or the Counter Vandalism Unit.

You're right about the interchangeability of the words title and name. Subject and topic are a little bit more ambiguous, so I would avoid using them to refer to a page name. For example, there is a difference between suggesting a change in a page's name and suggesting a change in the page's subject. A page can very well be about the same subject regardless of its exact name. I hope this helps. --TantalumTelluride 20:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Notabilty

What makes a song notable enough to have its own page—The preceding unsigned comment was added by James Epstein (talk • contribs) .

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines/Songs which gives detailed analysis on this issue.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Question

What is the appropriate first step when one sees what "may" be advertising, what "might not" be, on good faith? When a new user sees what is obviously blatant advertising, will the {{advert}} template do the job? Will that article be placed in a Category for cleanup? I'd really like to be 0RR if it's possible. Would it be better to use the {{noncompliant}} template? What will guarantee that an admin or cleanup crew will be notified without having to ask any questions? Thanks! [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 10:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

If you see an advertisement on Wikipedia, you should use the {{advert}} template, which will automatically categorize the page into Category:Wikipedia articles needing style editing. If you try to fix an advertisement to comply with NPOV guidelines but another editor disagrees with your changes, you might consider using the {{noncompliant}} template to warn readers that the content of the article is disputed. The template will categorize the page into Category:NPOV disputes while you attempt to resolve the dispute. If you want to avoid disputes, then you probably don't have any reason to use the noncompliant template. --TantalumTelluride 19:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

^{23 June 2006 20:30} Ste4k wrote: Thanks again Tantalum! In my opinion you are an expert in your field. :)

Concerning stubs...

I'm a bit of a newbie and I have tried searching everywhere for the answer to my question but to no avail, so I am very sorry if this question is answered somewhere else.

Is there a page devoted to people requestion stubs or articles?

I am quite interesting in making stubs and I would actually quite enjoy going around and writing short articles on topics. Unfortunately I can't think of what to write about and a stub request page would be really helpful. If there isn't one, is there anything similar? --Tobes 12:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requested articles for requested articles by subject area. --GraemeL ^(talk) 12:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help --Tobes 13:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>

I was wondering how you could put the <nowiki> template in tags on a template. If someone could tell me it would be really helpful. Thanks. Freddie _Message? 01:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I was a bit unclear. Let me elaborate a bit. I wish to put an autosign on a template. How would I do that? Obviously, the following won't work:

<noinclude><nowiki></noinclude>~~~~<noinclude></noinclude></nowiki>

because the <nowiki> will stop the from working. I hope this is a bit clearer. Freddie _Message? 02:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you want to have the line:

<noinclude><nowiki></noinclude>~~~~<noinclude><nowiki></noinclude>

in your template. When the template is subst'ed it will autosign (print your name and date). If the template isn't subst'ed then it will just print the 4 tildes (it has to be this way, otherwise it would attempt to print the name and date every time the page is evaluated - the date would be wrong etc).--Commander Keane 11:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

components of personality

hey! what are the components of personality!

Please elaborate a bit, and sign your posts. Freddie _Message? 14:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I need email address of Shri Lalu Prasad Yadav

Dear Sir,

Iam at usa and I need the email and fax and telephone number of our Shro Lalu Prasad Yadav,who,

is at present Railway Minister,he has been doing good job as a Railway Minister,and because

of him now the Railways are in PROFIT-I am his great fan and Admirer-

Your this page is really very good and also the infromation provided.,

Please accept my KUDOS.,

Sarvshri(Sir)Ramesh chellani-GOLD MEDALIST OF 2005.

JOURNALIST AND SOCIAL ACTIVIST SINCE 1963±–− — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.39.84 (talk • contribs)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Natalya 18:48, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

user restrictions/printing

hey I'm pretty new here, just a couple of quick questions.

What are the user restrictions for moving a page? I tried to move a page and it said my account was "too new." When does my account become eligible for moving articles? Or is that just for admins?

Another one...I know it could just be right in front of me, but is there any "official" (i.e. not copy-paste into word) way to print articles? I've found that some articles (like manual of style, other helps) would be much more convenient if I could print them. Thanks!--Kevin 06:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Look at the toolbox directly underneath the search field in an article--the fifth bullet down should say "printable version". With regard to your first question, I'm sure the information is available but I could only find that your account must be "several days" old in order to move a page. Page moves are not restricted to admininstrators. I'm sure someone will pop by momentarily with more precise information on the time period.--Fuhghettaboutit 07:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I knew I had to be missing it somewhere. I'll keep looking for the answer to the first one...--Kevin 07:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

The account needs to be 4 days old (exactly 96 hours) to move a page.--Commander Keane 18:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!--Kevin 20:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

British English or American English?

Is en.wikipedia.org for British English or American English? What spelling should be used? Thanks. Shlomi Hillel 22:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that you should read this and this. Jacek Kendysz 22:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

help me

I need help on renaming a page. the original existing page has title "Secret service" and talk about secret service. I created page about musical band from Sweden "Secret service" and called it secret service band because I dont know how to do it properly. now I am trying to rename a page without success.

To rename a page, you have to click on the "move" icon on the top of the page. However, you cannot do this if you are less than four days (96 hours) old. Freddie _Message? 01:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

• I think Freddie means, your account is less than 4 days old... = Mgm|^(talk) 12:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
  • He could have concluded that... Freddie _Message? 21:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

new interpretation - Balto-Slavic languages

Dear Sirs:

I would like to contact and speak with the contributor for the piece on Balto-Slavic languages. I have some serious questions, based on recent proposed theory and interpertation of historical data, regarding the probable relationship between these two languages-especially their relationship in time.

Lee Smith

Balto-Slavic languages

Dear Sirs:

I would like to contact and speak with the contributor for the piece on Balto-Slavic languages. I have some serious questions, based on recent proposed theory, regarding the probable relationship between these two languages-especially the relationship in time.

Lee Smith--Cflee smile

The best method of communication would be using the talk page. Thanks! Yanksox ^(talk) 05:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

dotty blue box

on an article i wrote there is a dotty blue box around a small box of text. why is it there? and how do i get read of it?

--Xxclairey faireyxx 18:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Whenever you indent with spaces the software creates a text box. I fixed it by simply removing the spaced indent. You might get some benefit from going through the Wikipedia:tutorial, which takes you through wikformatting in detail.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

thankies mucho --Xxclairey faireyxx 19:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

blurbs...

if i was to type out the blurb from a book on a page for that book, and make it clear that it was the blurb, e.g. the blurb for sweep / wicca 'nights child' by cate tiernan on to the page for nights child, would this be infringing on copyrights? or anything along those lines?

Check out this page and this one as well. In general, extensive quotation of copyrighted news materials (such as newspapers and wire services), movie scripts, or any other copyrighted text is not fair use and is prohibited by Wikipedia policy—you should instead use an external link to the copyright holder's page, providing that link isn't in itself a violation of copyrights. In a nutshell, ask yourself if the quote you're thinking of using illustrates the article to which you've added it without limiting the original copyright holder's rights or ability to distribute the original text. --McMillin24 _contribs^talk 15:13, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

thankios muchos --88.105.43.7 21:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

ship

the ship rosalie was one of many ships that my great grandfather was on. his name was alfred fincher.and i think the captain of the ship was capt andessa, not 100% sure, my grandfather sailed to various places but finally paid his passage to london in 1888.im not sure where he started out,which is why i thought id research the ship first, thank you for any imformation you can give

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this New contributors' help page is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Jacek Kendysz 20:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

My ancestry

My question is that I need help finding my grandmother's family. My grandmother's mother was a native american indian princess with the pamaunkey tribe. I have found no info on her. She was born in 1902 and married in 1918. Her name was martha ellen mattingly, owens. Husband james benjamin owens, (ben-boy). His family was from that area. I have more info but library closes soon. I am ill and need to get my roots as I am proud to be an native american. thank you Ahoe

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this New contributors' help page is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Jacek Kendysz 21:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Move / Rename / Move

I'm still unsure about the mechanism I should use to revise the name of an article (Icchak Cukierman) that according to its edit history, underwent a previous "Move" in the reverse direction (i.e. to this, from the name I support). From what I read in WP:MOVE, it seems there's some risk that info would be lost if I did this the wrong way? The scary part says, ...change the page history into one that only records the renaming... ?!? I want the redirect, and not to lose data, and I'm willing to go in and fix all the "What links here" -- but I'm still hesitating due to my apprehensions. Help! :-o -- Deborahjay 22:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• If the article was previously moved in the other direction, you can't move it without a administrator first temporarily deletiting the target article. However, if it was moved before, it would be a good thing to discuss a possible move first. Why do you want to move it? - Mgm|^(talk) 07:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I gave my detailed rationale already in the article's Talk page - which the previous "mover" did not. What do you suggest? -- Deborahjay

• You should list it at Wikipedia:Requested moves.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 21:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Dataflow Diagram

How to draw a dataflow diagram for library management?

First, that's not a question. Second, try the Wikipedia:Reference Desk. -- Chris ^Ccool2ax _contrib. 14:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

birth and death dates style

Is there a style guideline for birth and death dates? I noticed the (old-fashioned?) style of "(* June 12, 1885; † August 3, 1965)" on Willi Hennig, and I don't really like it because 1. It's unclear to those not initiated to the style, and 2. Using a cross to denote death seems to violate NPOV, especially in the absence of information about the article subject's religion.

Does that sound like a reasonable position?

I couldn't find this issue in the style guide (but I might be searching poorly). Graham 23:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that WP:DATE may be useful for you. Jacek Kendysz 23:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The Willi Hennig page seems to have been mostly translated from the German Wikipedia, and the asterisk/dagger convention is widely used on that wiki. Since English readers can easily confuse a dagger or asterisk with footnotes the conventions outlined in the manual of style (at WP:DATE and WP:MOSBIO) should be used. This was discussed a while ago as well if you're interested in the archive. --McMillin24 _contribs^talk 00:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Belated thank yous to all for pointing me in the right direction. --Graham 02:04, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Citing DVD Comentary

I have been working on adding citations to Boogiepop series, and wish to add some things to the lead in that were mentioned in the commentary track for Boogiepop Phantom --- the commentary involves comments from multiple people, often making it difficult to say that X person said it. How do you cite a DVD commentary on Wikipedia? Elric of Grans 00:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Critical commentaries and other extra features in video or DVD releases should be cited by author and title. Check out an example at Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith#References. --McMillin24 _contribs^talk 00:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

That seems to be what I needed. Thanks for that! Elric of Grans 00:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Links to Illegal server emulators?

The Wikipedia help area is really intimadating. I hope this is the correct place to put this.

I am a active (The only, really) editor of the Ragnarok Online 2 article. There is another user adding information on to the article about private servers for the game. In short, a private server is a game server seperate from the official ones that a user can play on for free with the game's client. Though the server emulator is coded by third party users, it uses resources that are protected by the developer's copyrights and what have you. Thus, making the program illegal.

My question is, should this user be allowed to post links to illegal content on the article?

Please respond on my talk page. Thank you --A Pair of Shoes 04:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Answered at User talk:A Pair of Shoes. --TantalumTelluride 18:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

How to create links opening in a new page

Hi,

Can someone tell me how do i create a link to an external URL that open´s in a new page

Thanks, IL

As far as I know, It's not possible. It's better that way though, because it gives control over to the reader. They get to choose if the link opens in the same location, or a new tab/window. Icey 19:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... If you are talking about an external link, it is done in the same way as an internal link and beside it there is a function that looks like a box with an arrow in it. If you click on that little box it opens the link in a new window.

Freddie _Message? 02:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Uploading Files

Arrg... I always seem to forget this. How do you upload a new version of an existing file? Freddie _Message? 02:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

You just upload it under the exact same filename, it will warn you that you that the name is taken, ignore the warning.--Commander Keane 02:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Roger. Freddie _Message? 11:38, 30 June 2006 (UTC)