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19 October 2019 – SIEV X
An Iraqi man is arrested at Brisbane Airport for his membership in a human trafficking syndicate responsible for chartering a boat carrying 421 Afghan and Iraqi refugees to Australia. More than 350 of those aboard perished when the boat sank off the coast of Indonesia in October 2001. (The Guardian)
25 September 2019 – Foreign relations of Kiribati
Kiribatian President Taneti Mamau condemns Australia for the alleged apathy the Australian government shows toward small island nations in the Pacific facing the threat of global warming. (RNZ)
25 September 2019 – Cannabis in Australia
The Australian Capital Territory (ACT) becomes the first jurisdiction in Australia to legalize the recreational use of cannabis. From January 31, 2020, adults within ACT will be allowed to have 50 grams of the drug and can grow up to four cannabis plants at home. (BBC)
8 September 2019 – 2018–19 Australian bushfire season
A wildfire destroys much of the Queensland Heritage Register-listed Binna Burra Cultural Landscape holiday resort, including its famous lodge, in Binna Burra, Queensland, Australia. (ABC News) (BBC)
4 September 2019 – 2019 Samoa assassination plot
After an assassination plot to kill Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa A. S. Malielegaoi is foiled, police are working to extradite a Samoan man who lives in Brisbane, Australia. (Radio New Zealand)
21 August 2019 – 2019 Persian Gulf crisis, Australia–United States relations
Australia announces its agreement to join the United States' coalition, along with the United Kingdom and Bahrain, to prevent Iran from targeting ships travelling through the Strait of Hormuz. Australia will deploy a Boeing P-8 Poseidon and a frigate. (The Sydney Morning Herald)
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Proposal to delete all portals. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal to delete Portal space. Voceditenore (talk) 08:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

While I am generally inclined towards inclusion, I am really failing to recognise the value of most portals. Does anyone here have any argument at all that any of the state-level (or city-level if any exist) portals should be kept? I think I am more inclined to allow the stepwise deletions to continue rather than cut the whole concept off, but I'm open to being convinced either way. I neither use nor routinely maintain any portals. --Scott Davis Talk 12:36, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Historical concept, that had some success and which a many still act as designed. I think its best that they are kept of the part they play in Wikipedias history. Gnangarra 06:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Fully support the idea - {{historical}} - better than a bad faith delete JarrahTree 07:37, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
@Gnangarra and JarrahTree: You need to go over to the main proposal and make your opinions known. At the moment, after cleaning up the Portal:South Australia Did You Know.. section, I would be inclined to delete that on the grounds that nobody had maintained it for almost a decade. --Scott Davis Talk 14:53, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
read the proposal and discussion in full - and then think about it - on my part no comment. JarrahTree 04:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

─────────────────────────Relatedly, per bold-revert-discuss there's discussion required at the portal talkpage on the addition or otherwise of a "Good Article" section, and some other technical changes. -- Euryalus (talk) 05:18, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Lawrence power stationEdit

Is anybody aware of a current or former coal-fired power station that might have been called something like Lawrence power station? It features in Wikidata as Lawrence Energy Centre (Q19379100) with a very short article in Norwegian, and a dead link as reference. I can't find anything to match it to. The article seems to say it had 4 steam turbines for a total output of 600MW, but does not give a location more precise than "Australia", constructed(?) 1954–1971. There appear to have been a number of stubs in Norwegian with similar references. I have matched most of the others and merged the wikidata entries, but this one has me stumped. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 07:10, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Scott, Australia as location may be an error? There's a Lawrence Energy Center in Kansas. This mentions dates of 1955 and 1971. JennyOz (talk) 08:40, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Jenny. @Bjoertvedt: is it possible that the location of that article is wrong and it should be updated in Wikidata and Norwegian to Kansas? The Lawrence Energy Center is in a list at Evergy#Generation portfolio. Thank you. --Scott Davis Talk 23:38, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
I think you've solved it. 2 Lawrence power stations of the same size and dates are listed in no:Liste_over_verdens_største_kullkraftverk, Australia & Kansas. That user did also later create no:Lawrence_kullkraftverk_(Kansas) with virtually identical text. They did create it in between making other Australian power plant stubs, such as Vales Point, Kwinana, Swanbank and Torrens Island, but everything else points to a mixup. This source has no mention of a Lawrence or Laurence Power Station in Australia. The-Pope (talk) 04:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Victoria for deletionEdit


A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Victoria is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Victoria until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. Certes (talk) 20:46, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Peanut Allergy Staple Products page. Where to begin? Advice to start up?Edit

Hi, I've only ever made minor edits to wikipedia pages before now, but have just had an idea which I'd like to float by you all beforehand. When shopping for an Australian with peanut allergies, there are 2 main types of warning printed on packaging: "Contains" and "May contain traces". The former is obvious, but the latter means something like "We made 10,000 chocolate bars with peanuts, cleaned the equipment, then made 10,000 bars without peanuts. The first 100 bars out of 10,000 might have peanut residue. 9,900 will be fine, but we don't know which ones." This makes shopping for basics difficult as Coles and Woolies sometimes only use 2 or 3 suppliers and the warnings change.

Rather than setting up some kind of whitelist website which I would never be able to keep up to date by myself, it would be great to have a wikipedia page/website where people could list where to go just now to find items such as soup mix or jars of garlic which can be hard to find when planning and shopping.

I'm happy to learn how to do it, and can use those skills to do some of the other to-do list jobs here once I get my head round it. Thanks in advance.

PS, what's the best way to get alerts or messages when you reply? — Preceding unsigned comment added by F4fvs (talkcontribs) 02:53, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi F4fvs, thanks for your idea, but that isn't really what Wikipedia is about. You are probably better off looking for a Facebook group or a forum where they could maintain a list. We rely on secondary sources, not original research, so we'd need a reliable source to confirm all of the information, not just people reading labels. And, to be honest, you couldn't trust that someone isn't being malicious and adding items that don't qualify. The-Pope (talk) 04:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
I suspect that answer is that Wikipedia is not the right place for this information.
@F4fvs: The best way to get notified of replies is by watching this page. I've {{ping}}ed you this time, but normally I wouldn't, and you should not generally rely on others to do so.
Mitch Ames (talk) 04:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks both. Your advice is gratefully received. F4fvs (talk) 16:39, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Irvin Rockman RfCEdit

There's a new RfC on whether criminal allegations against the late Irvin Rockman, former Melbourne mayor, should be mentioned in his article. [[1]] ClearBreeze (talk) 14:49, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

University course creating articles on female Australian artists todayEdit

You may notice a number of new or expanded articles relating to female Australian artists. These have arisen from a university course that has been supported by Wikimedia Australia and I was there this afternoon helping get the final drafts into article space. My sense is that the articles are not too bad (they had to submit the article as a Word document for review prior to creating their Wikipedia article which will have improved the quality) but of course they will not be familiar with all our policies and Manual of Style, so please be welcoming them and offer any advice in a friendly way or just fix any problems you see yourself. The students all felt very positive about what they had achieved. Being of a generation which automatically turns to Wikipedia for information, they seemed to understand the importance of what they were doing and the need to do it to their best ability. Kerry (talk) 08:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for this note Kerry, and this sounds like a great initiative. Is there a central listing of these new articles somewhere? Nick-D (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Not that anyone gave me, but it seems they were using Outreach Dashboard, but it seems it is not working at the moment, but watch this space. Kerry (talk) 12:32, 17 October 2019 (UTC)