Elm accessions edit

I doubt there is a Wiki convention on Accessions, a category I unilaterally introduced some years ago when beginning the elm series. Certainly, I only include living specimens, but can't vouch for others, though I do allow deceased specimens under 'Notable trees'. The Romney Gardens elm was cited in Owen Johnson's (owen@ojohnson.freeserve.co.uk) 'Champions' book and, based on previous correspondence and acquaintance, I doubt if he would have allowed its inclusion if he wasn't sure of its identity. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Wych elm reference to Loch Lomond edit

Dear Tom Elm, I originally quoted Richens on this one, but eventually deferred to a Gaelic expert, who wrote: "sorry, it has a ref, but it's rubbish, the place name is obscure, it's not even 'Lac Leaman' but 'Loch Laomainn'". Richens wasn't infallible, it seems. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 21:43, 1 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Ptelea, I have toned down the ref to Loch Lomond, please feel free to remove if you feel it has no place here. Thanks, Tom elm (talk) 08:41, 4 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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I'd overlooked this one. Yes, by all means create it. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 15:12, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dauvessei Elm edit

Dear Tom Don't know what happened there. I hadn't intended to undo your edit, rather update the link to the Brighton elm collection, which still lists Dauvessei. PB strikes again. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 10:07, 16 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

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@Diannaa: Thank you for your reply.. that makes sense. I will contact the main editor of the page in question. All the best, Tom_elmtalk 12:55, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Umbraculifera gracilis edit

Dear Tom, There are contradictions here. It is stated there is only one known surviving specimen, in the USA, but the cultivar box shows a tree surviving at RBGE, even though this is titled aff. Plotii. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 15:21, 18 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you @Ptelea:, I will email the editor that made the change you are referring to. Best, Tom_elmtalk 16:36, 18 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hello both. Yes, the page needs updating. RBGE have confirmed that our aff. Plotii are Umbrac Gracilis (see RBGE Living Collection site) - so we have three more mature Gracilis survivors. - Regards, Ftelia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.39.159.73 (talk) 16:48, 18 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Ulmus glabra 'Rugosa' edit

Dear Tom This article has become very muddled. We seem to be describing two cultivars in tandem. If campestris 'R' is indeed being treated as a synonym of glabra 'R', we need to say so, if not, then start another page for it. Or simply play safe and sink both as of indeterminate origin: U. 'Rugosa? Regards,Ptelea (talk) 14:50, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Elm lists edit

Yes, in agreement, too many lists. The rather arbitrary classification by habitat, 'mountain elms' etc, should certainly go, as should the separate list of common names. Of more immediate concern is the attempt to delete pages based on Notability, or apparent lack of, which is such a subjective area, and evidently attracting the attentions of those for whom the elm is matter of indifference, vide the recent correspondence on the recently released 'JFS Prince II' = Colonial Spirit, threatening to derail the whole project. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 16:41, 14 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Ulmus minor 'Viminalis Pulverulenta' edit

Feel rather uneasy about this one; is there precedent? The Morton cultivar Ulmus 'Morton' = ACCOLADE is similarly a hybrid of two types of a species, in this case Japanese elm: U. dav. var. jap. and what was once U. wilsoniana before it was sunk as Japanese Elm, but the specific epithet is forfeit. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 10:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Ptelea: Thank you for the message. Not sure I accept the notion of two types of species (in the case of U. minor we either have undifferentiated or a cultivar, they're both U. minor). How would we account for any cultivar of U. glabra or for that matter, say, U. minor 'Christine Buisman' itself raised from a batch of 390 seedlings? Best, Tom_elmtalk 10:42, 6 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

'Viminalis Pulverulenta' at Cambridge edit

Regret at 10 years' distance, no chance. It wouldn't have been CBG as they were always conspicuously unhelpful. The fact it was then a current intelligence suggests either a perscomm. (unlikely as I never had any interest in the tree) or a contemporary book. OJ's 2003 Champion Trees seems the only candidate; unfortunately I no longer have access to a copy to confirm. The 2011 edition only mentions the Brighton specimen. Sorry I can't be more help. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 11:27, 6 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Tom. I've been rooting many of the putatively claimed Edinburgh elm cultivars. I've rooted the cuttings in water. Some of them have already been potted up. I do have a lot of them. 86.140.252.236 (talk) 22:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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